Goodvibes007:

Brother. The Zimbabwean dollar is now flexing muscle with naira as well.

With the way it's going, The APC administration would soon blame Google map for traffic hold up in Nigeria.

Zimbabwe? This is regrettable. Jesus. General elections come quick and let's end this horror. Zimbabwean Dollars now competing with Nigerian currency? Our leaders will never go unpunished by God.

The U.S Border has been completely overwhelmed as thousands of illegal migrants are spotted under the Del Rio Bridge.

FAA has now banned Media drones from covering and providing footages of the Migrant surge. The FAA said the action is for d purpose of "security".

*Really?* I thought Biden said his administration would ensure transparency? Besides every aspect of this administration has been a failure, farmenting one crisis or the other.

Dapcity007:



That doesn't justify the morality of abortion, you can't predict anyone's future, if abortion worked why do you have many single mothers, creating babies unmarried, consciously with irresponsible men, can't they see that only Marital institution can enforce responsiblity in men, yet they chose to get pregnant without using contraceptives

The keyword is choice . The single women chose to be single mothers. Some chose not to be. It's not in your place to choose for them. You have no role whatsoever to play in the pregnancy process of an anonymous woman. You are not the one that would bear the risks, pains and costs of the pregnancy. A typical example is Linda Ikeji. She chose not to marry but be a single mother. She is happy with her choice.

The abortion debate has little to do with the marital institution. It's not only single women that have unwanted pregnancies. It is even suggested that married women perform more abortions than single women.

obixcel:
The U.S Border has been completely overwhelmed as thousands of illegal migrants are spotted under the Del Rio Bridge.

FAA has now banned Media drones from covering and providing footages of the Migrant surge. The FAA said the action is for d purpose of "security".

*Really?* I thought Biden said his administration would ensure transparency? Besides every aspect of this administration has been a failure, farmenting one crisis or the other.

When will you join them at the border?

Dapcity007:




Even people from family households end up poor and homeless if they make bad financial decisions, even some war veterans end up homeless after their sacrifice, you are not God and can't predict the future of anybody, with your logic we should kill poor people that are a strain on society since you can kill infants, it would make their life easier to end their misery, same way racist eugenicist made their arguments for killing race class they seemed beneath them since they dehumanized them as worthless people who will strain society, guess what one of them was the eugenic founder of planned Parenthood Margaret sangers who hated blacks, and now her dreams are accomplished as majority of abortions in America is from the black race, on top of that you have the least approval rating for marriage as only one in four every marries, with all the abortions you have the highest single motherhood crisis in America, if not for immigration your population would have been virtually insignificant, yet you celebrate your self as enlightened liberals, after spewing the brainwashed jargon of your liberal party celebrating abortion ( the loss of human life/ a new DNA)

Leave wirinet, he is an atheist and he is very confused. He does not understand most things when it comes to ethics and morality. He has been trying to attack religious groups because of his atheism but he does not present and significant atheist organizations that help homeless people and orphans. He wants babies to be killed if their family is poor, he does not understand that some children who come from poor family usually become a blessing to the society. He claimed he does not like children being born into poverty. That's not a viable reason. Like you ask him.

Who decides the rate at which one is poor before they kill their kids? You would think because of poverty and all the reasons he is giving he would strongly support contraceptives but he is not doing that. He is making the case instead for women skipping contraceptives and employ abortion as contraceptives.

He wants to live in a world where irresponsible people with money flaring but he want to take away the life of people who are not rich enough. They don't have the right to live because they pocket is not deep.

Most of these folks here lack morality, sadly wirinet atheism is making him less concerned with human life.

Message for the cōons and cultists

wirinet:


The keyword is choice . The single women chose to be single mothers. Some chose not to be. It's not in your place to choose for them. You have no role whatsoever to play in the pregnancy process of an anonymous woman. You are not the one that would bear the risks, pains and costs of the pregnancy. A typical example is Linda Ikeji. She chose not to marry but be a single mother. She is happy with her choice.

The abortion debate has little to do with the marital institution. It's not only single women that have unwanted pregnancies. It is even suggested that married women perform more abortions than single women.

In the US more than 85% of the women who have abortion are unmarried. In Nigeria there are more abortion done by unmarried than married. In China it is a different case because they are allowed only one baby. China have 25million or more abortion in a year. Mainly forced abortion.

UK, the rate of unmarried abortion is significantly higher than married.

In the UK they have child benefits, you cannot claim a child should be aborted because of poverty there.

benalvino3:


Leave wirinet, he is an atheist and he is very confused. He does not understand most things when it comes to ethics and morality. He has been trying to attack religious groups because of his atheism but he does not present and significant atheist organizations that help homeless people and orphans. He wants babies to be killed if their family is poor, he does not understand that some children who come from poor family usually become a blessing to the society. He claimed he does not like children being born into poverty. That's not a viable reason. Like you ask him.

Who decides the rate at which one is poor before they kill their kids? You would think because of poverty and all the reasons he is giving he would strongly support contraceptives but he is not doing that. He is making the case instead for women skipping contraceptives and employ abortion as contraceptives.

He wants to live in a world where irresponsible people with money flaring but he want to take away the life of people who are not rich enough. They don't have the right to live because they pocket is not deep.

Most of these folks here lack morality, sadly wirinet atheism is making him less concerned with human life.

You are entering next level with your red herring arguments and fallacies. Where did I or anyone suggest that babies should be ripped from poor families and slaughtered. Even the legal status of the foetus we are talking about did not suggest forcefully teminiating the pregnancy of a woman without the consent of the woman.
The crux of the abortion debate has always been about the rights of the woman over her body. I have asked numerous times what you guys suggest if ab initio the woman who discovered she is pregnant says she doesn't want to have or keep the baby. All I am hearing from you guys is "she must suffer the consequences of her actions". I asked what of the baby itself, why should it also suffer the consequences of her actions also. I am still waiting for an answer.

I don't attack religious people as most people around me are religious. Those I attack are religious fundamentalists - both christian and Muslim, who forcefully impose their religious beliefs on others, sometimes through violence.

What an irony, you are accusing me who says unwanted children should not be brought into the world to suffer and constitute societal nuisance, of not presenting any significant atheist organizations that help homeless people and orphans. Meanwhile, you that believe in bringing into the world children irrespective of whether it is wanted or not have not done or presented anything for their care and upkeep.
For your information, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, set up by an atheist has helped more poor people than any religious organization.

benalvino3:


In the US more than 85% of the women who have abortion are unmarried. In Nigeria there are more abortion done by unmarried than married. In China it is a different case because they are allowed only one baby. China have 25million or more abortion in a year. Mainly forced abortion.

UK, the rate of unmarried abortion is significantly higher than married.

In the UK they have child benefits, you cannot claim a child should be aborted because of poverty there.

Yes when you talk of legal abortion, as single ladies are more likely to be more open about abortion. Abortion statistics are difficult to ascertain as many women, nurses and doctors would not participate in surveys.

Read this report on the abortion statistics from ultra conservative Utah

Behind the numbers: How to make sense of Utah's abortion rate for married women

In Utah, more than a quarter of women who had abortions in 2013 were married. Nationwide, fewer than 15 percent were.

The difference is striking in a conservative state that is home to some of the nation's most restrictive abortion laws and has a population that values marriage and large families. It's a percentage that has remained high for more than two decades. Yet understanding what's behind the numbers and what it says about Utah is difficult to decipher.

Utah led the nation in the percentage of women who had abortions who were married not only in 2013 (the last year for which federal statistics are available) but every year since 2004. Some years, the state exceeded the national average by 20 percentage points or more. Yet the number of abortions among married women in Utah is not as high as in other states.

In 2013, 746 married women had abortions in Utah, according to the CDC. In Kansas, another state with a population of about 3 million, 990 married women did, even though the 13.5 percent of Kansas women who had abortions who were married is close to the national average and much lower than Utah's.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deseret.com/platform/amp/2017/6/14/20614180/behind-the-numbers-how-to-make-sense-of-utah-s-abortion-rate-for-married-women

benalvino3:


In the US more than 85% of the women who have abortion are unmarried. In Nigeria there are more abortion done by unmarried than married. In China it is a different case because they are allowed only one baby. China have 25million or more abortion in a year. Mainly forced abortion.

UK, the rate of unmarried abortion is significantly higher than married.

In the UK they have child benefits, you cannot claim a child should be aborted because of poverty there.

Only God knows the rate of back alley abortion in Nigeria despite abortion being illegal there. I am sure it is very high. The writer below puts it in the thousands.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/2/9/nigeria-illegal-backstreet-abortion-clinics

From a UK website:
Child Benefit can help you with the costs of your children. It's usually paid every 4 weeks. If you're eligible you'll get £21.15 a week for your first child and £14.00 a week for any children after that.

This is poverty level living especially for a single mother. Ibime can correct me if I am wrong though.

wirinet:


Yes when you talk of legal abortion, as single ladies are more likely to be more open about abortion. Abortion statistics are difficult to ascertain as many women, nurses and doctors would not participate in surveys.

Read this report on the abortion statistics from ultra conservative Utah

It is not difficult to assertain else all we have been talking about abortion numbers is useless. Nurses and doctors can say an abortion occur, it occurred from a married woman or not without giving out the identity of the people who do it or revealing their own identity. If they have an agenda they want to push then they can skew the data to push their agenda. But far majority of the abortions that occur happen from the unmarried. Abortion is also high from the poor and uneducated. People who have less access to contraceptives and or less educated about contraceptives.

Abortion can still occur with contraceptives, for most women if they are married it does not end up in abortion. The ones who are unmarried are more likely to have abortion and not use contraceptives.

I have said here several times about means to prevent abortion, I don't know if you are not reading it but I have said abortion can be performed as soon as possible, especially before the heart beat.

The my body my choice does not work for me. It does not make sense.

Wirinet. See the high numbers below in Nigeria despite abortion being illegal. People will keep aborting and no rule or ban can stop it. It's just like prostitution. It has been around for years as well and would probably outlive everyone on this thread. Abortion is even legal in Isreal.

As for this discussion about abortion, I would pass on it. You can continue engaging with Ben. He loves argument. Lol.

In the earlier post, the girl was 17, the unfortunate man that impregnated her was 29, but expect to be lectured on how the girl should be blamed for not using contraceptives. It was even the unfortunate man that took her to an abortion clinic. Lol.

More:
Nigeria's a whooping 6,000 out of 31,000 using the best case scenario.
A whole 19% of total.

Goodvibes007:

Only God knows the rate of back alley abortion in Nigeria despite abortion being illegal there. I am sure it is very high. The writer below puts it in the thousands.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/2/9/nigeria-illegal-backstreet-abortion-clinics

From a UK website:
Child Benefit can help you with the costs of your children. It's usually paid every 4 weeks. If you're eligible you'll get £21.15 a week for your first child and £14.00 a week for any children after that.

This is poverty level living especially for a single mother. Ibime can correct me if I am wrong though.

They get a thousand pounds a year for the kids and it does not have to be for single mothers. If the husband is making more than 50k a year he might need to pay back some of the money.

benalvino3:


They get a thousand pounds a year for the kids and it does not have to be for single mothers. If the husband is making more than 50k a year he might need to pay back some of the money.

If the mother is poor and can barely afford to pay rent, how would she be able to take care of the kids with a thousand pounds a year? That's just £91 pounds a month.

I don't know much about the UK though so maybe Budaatum or Ibime can chip in when they are less busy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIXQviw85kU

The source of “Russia Russia Trump Link” has now been exposed o o o o!!

No one else than the witch HRC Killary! and the Demoncrat party!

Goodvibes007:

If the mother is poor and can barely afford to pay rent, how would she be able to take care of the kids with a thousand pounds a year? That's just £91 pounds a month.

I don't know much about the UK though so maybe Budaatum or Ibime can chip in when they are less busy.

Its child benefit. If you have shelter it helps.

But carrying a pregnancy for 9 months is not the problem, taking care of the kid is abi?

ono:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIXQviw85kU

The source of “Russia Russia Trump Link” has now been exposed o o o o!!

No one else than the witch HRC Killary! and the Demoncrat party!

Media won't cover this

benalvino3:


Media won't cover this

Pencil neck Adam Schiff and his co-travelers need to be removed from congress o o!! All the RINOs inclusive.

When Trump said the 2020 election was rigged, ladies and gentlemen, please believe him o o o!

benalvino3:


Media won't cover this

The media are downplaying the indictment.
Durham will indict more.
They kept saying Mueller indicted tens of Trump.

Now on the other side this is the second. Both for lying materially in order for FBI to initiate an investigation. This character was billing Clinton campaign. No way the case will proceed without that witch being interrogated.That is if there will be justice. She claimed on several questions about Russia collusion which was being cooked up by her campaign.
And in this indictment this guy goes to FBI with non public data. In other words data he should not have had access to in matters privacy.
The indictment mentions Mark Ellis , a partner in Perkins Coiei lawfirm. A lot of questions to be answered, media cannot spin this.

I decided to adopt a wait and see.

From the great President Donald J Trump himself.


After many years of allowing China to rip off the United States on trade and so much else, I was very tough on China, by far the toughest of any U.S. President in history. During my administration, China paid us hundreds of billions of dollars and finally respected the U.S. again. Before me, they never gave us “ten cents.” For Lightweight General Mark Milley to have called the Chinese to “bring down the temperature” of my negotiations with them, negotiations that were having a major positive impact on large-scale benefits to the United States, is outrageous. We were not going to make any Military moves—never even thought of it, but we were hitting them so hard in all other ways. While every other President caved to China, China was caving to me and the U.S. for the first time ever. “Dumbo” Milley inserted himself right in the middle of my trade negotiation, and if he did what is reported, he would have had a profound negative effect on those negotiations. Milley is an idiot with no common sense or ability to negotiate—that’s why he left $85 Billion of the World’s best Military equipment in the hands of the Taliban for no reason whatsoever. That’s also why 13 young Warriors are not with their families tonight.

Mark Milley hurt our Country very badly, and he should pay a big price, just like the crooked politicians and lawyers on the Hillary Clinton campaign for the years of Fake Russia, Russia, Russia stories that are now being revealed with the arrest yesterday of Attorney Michael Sussmann of the Democrat’s Law Firm Perkins Coie, who was one of the heads of the operation. I have had the same fake “bullshit” going on for years with the Witch Hunt by New York District Attorney Cyrus Vance and Attorney General Letitia James, headed by Never Trumper Mark Pomerantz, who now shockingly works for the DA’s office, but is a partner of the Hillary Clinton and DNC’s Democrat Party Never Trumper Law Firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. This is unprecedented! Over three million pages of documents have been examined by them (a record fishing expedition!), Never Trumper lawyers and law firms are used by the DA and AG to “Get Trump,” in their prosecutorial misconduct Witch Hunt, anti-Trump political campaigns are viciously waged by them to get elected—and they have NOTHING! Murder and all forms of crime are “through the roof” in New York, and their focus is on “Trump,” despite numerous other political investigations that went nowhere. They are spending tens of millions of dollars with a vast army of Trump Haters. This has been going on for years and the people of our Country are not going to take it anymore!

ono:


Pencil neck Adam Schiff and his co-travelers need to be removed from congress o o!! All the RINOs inclusive.

When Trump said the 2020 election was rigged, ladies and gentlemen, please believe him o o o!

Bro, what happened to Biden getting arrested on 4th of March?

Goodvibes007:
Wirinet. See the high numbers below in Nigeria despite abortion being illegal. People will keep aborting and no rule or ban can stop it. It's just like prostitution. It has been around for years as well and would probably outlive everyone on this thread. Abortion is even legal in Isreal.

As for this discussion about abortion, I would pass on it. You can continue engaging with Ben. He loves argument. Lol.

Not surprised abortion happens every day in Nigeria,it may be illegal but you hardly see anyone brought to book for it and there is no logical argument to use except for where it has been written (eye service) as illegal.

Some Nigerians are big hypocrites they don't know how to practice what they preach,they preach against pre-marital sex and abstinence but many of the bachelors and spinsters have had sex more than the married ones, they preach love they neighbour as thyself but they can't even love themselves not to talk of loving their neighbours.

You will think that Nigeria as it is a highly religious country is very moral but nope they are not moral at all no wonder people say morality is subjective they are one of the most corrupt people on earth that find joy in seeing people sad and miserable and we all wonder why the country is backward and is competing with third world countries.

Hypocrisy is a Nigerian,the so called moral ones can judge people but what they do behind is worse.We don't like telling ourselves the truth.

A few days ago the FDA refused to grant approval for Pfizer third booster shot.
The WH had been gearing up for that.
Why Pfizer booster shot was denied largely save for over 65.
CDC stopped reporting on Breathrough cases, ie where a vaccinated person gets infected.
The FdA approval board was asked to only look at the CDC data which showed no hospitalizations for vaccinated people implying that vaccinated people were not getting serious illness. Two senior FDA officials quit, no reasons were given.
Eventually during the approval the experts were asked to look at data from other countries including UK and Israel which has lot of breakthrough cases
Third booster shot request was then denied Had they worked with US CDC data the approval would have been given and another 350 or so million shots for Americans only at 20$ would have been ordered.

ono:
From the great President Donald J Trump himself.


After many years of allowing China to rip off the United States on trade and so much else, I was very tough on China, by far the toughest of any U.S. President in history. During my administration, China paid us hundreds of billions of dollars and finally respected the U.S. again. Before me, they never gave us “ten cents.” For Lightweight General Mark Milley to have called the Chinese to “bring down the temperature” of my negotiations with them, negotiations that were having a major positive impact on large-scale benefits to the United States, is outrageous. We were not going to make any Military moves—never even thought of it, but we were hitting them so hard in all other ways. While every other President caved to China, China was caving to me and the U.S. for the first time ever. “Dumbo” Milley inserted himself right in the middle of my trade negotiation, and if he did what is reported, he would have had a profound negative effect on those negotiations. Milley is an idiot with no common sense or ability to negotiate—that’s why he left $85 Billion of the World’s best Military equipment in the hands of the Taliban for no reason whatsoever. That’s also why 13 young Warriors are not with their families tonight.

Mark Milley hurt our Country very badly, and he should pay a big price, just like the crooked politicians and lawyers on the Hillary Clinton campaign for the years of Fake Russia, Russia, Russia stories that are now being revealed with the arrest yesterday of Attorney Michael Sussmann of the Democrat’s Law Firm Perkins Coie, who was one of the heads of the operation. I have had the same fake “bullshit” going on for years with the Witch Hunt by New York District Attorney Cyrus Vance and Attorney General Letitia James, headed by Never Trumper Mark Pomerantz, who now shockingly works for the DA’s office, but is a partner of the Hillary Clinton and DNC’s Democrat Party Never Trumper Law Firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. This is unprecedented! Over three million pages of documents have been examined by them (a record fishing expedition!), Never Trumper lawyers and law firms are used by the DA and AG to “Get Trump,” in their prosecutorial misconduct Witch Hunt, anti-Trump political campaigns are viciously waged by them to get elected—and they have NOTHING! Murder and all forms of crime are “through the roof” in New York, and their focus is on “Trump,” despite numerous other political investigations that went nowhere. They are spending tens of millions of dollars with a vast army of Trump Haters. This has been going on for years and the people of our Country are not going to take it anymore!

General Mark Miley - an American hero who fought off attempts at a coup and martial Law by Trump declaring "we have no fealty to a dictator, King or Queen"

Like all good Americans in the system, he took steps to protect America from a deranged Trump after November election

Trump - a deranged lunatic who tried to carry out a coup after November election

Ono - a deranged lunatic who declared Biden would be arrested on March 4th after hearing from QAnon. It's bad enough for an Umudike Republican to be cursed with eternal poverty, but adding mental illness to the mix is a double punishment

Ibime:



General Mark Miley - an American hero who fought off attempts at a coup and martial Law by Trump declaring "we have no fealty to a dictator, King or Queen"

Like all good Americans in the system, he took steps to protect America from a deranged Trump after November election

Trump - a deranged lunatic who tried to carry out a coup after November election

Ono - a deranged lunatic who declared Biden would be arrested on March 4th after hearing from QAnon. It's bad enough for an Umudike Republican to be cursed with eternal poverty, but adding mental illness to the mix is a double punishment

How did Trump attempt to carry out a coup?
Jan 6 'insurrection' where the only casualties were from the Capitol police, and not a single weapon was captured?
Kinda like Hitler tanks steamrolling through Polish army on horseback.

Iran top nuclear scientist killed by a remote controlled AI rifle fired from 1000 miles away.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10004269/How-Irans-nuclear-scientist-assassinated-killer-robot-machine-gun-kitted-AI.html

basilico:


How did Trump attempt to carry out a coup?
Jan 6 'insurrection' where the only casualties were from the Capitol police, and not a single weapon was captured?
Kinda like Hitler tanks steamrolling through Polish army on horseback.

Don't forget his camp all around talking about Martial Law and such. What do you think would happen if Pence failed to certify?

basilico:


The media are downplaying the indictment.
Durham will indict more.
They kept saying Mueller indicted tens of Trump.

Now on the other side this is the second. Both for lying materially in order for FBI to initiate an investigation. This character was billing Clinton campaign. No way the case will proceed without that witch being interrogated.That is if there will be justice. She claimed on several questions about Russia collusion which was being cooked up by her campaign.
And in this indictment this guy goes to FBI with non public data. In other words data he should not have had access to in matters privacy.
The indictment mentions Mark Ellis , a partner in Perkins Coiei lawfirm. A lot of questions to be answered, media cannot spin this.

I decided to adopt a wait and see.

The FBI knew they were lying to begin with. The FBI was in bed with them so John D. Should start indictment on some of the criminal FBI actors that was in bed with the Clintons and Obama

ono:


Pencil neck Adam Schiff and his co-travelers need to be removed from congress o o!! All the RINOs inclusive.

When Trump said the 2020 election was rigged, ladies and gentlemen, please believe him o o o!

Pencil neck has been a strong critic of Biden's foreign policies as of late. I don't know if he is on the ballot for next elections but I am surprised