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Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Zagee: 5:05pm On Sep 19, 2021
Una draw any reasonable correlation from this man's incoherent speech? Cuz I'm still looking out for one.
What madness is this type?? huh undecided

Masari!! Attract the market share if e easy...
#NoToLazziness
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Uchek(m): 5:10pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ignore the nonsense Arewa hegemonist. Every State will survive
- and Lagos State will be #1 in the propability of survival.

I thought he he should supoort state collection of VAT that way he would be able to prove his hypothesis that Lagos State cannot survive without the support of other states. They are panicking because the pipeline of unearned money is about to dry out.

However, l disagree with you that Lagos State was left for dead before Tinubu took over in 1999. Empirical evidence does not support your claim.

OneTemplate:
What truth? Lagos was left for dead before Tinubu took over in 1999. I am a Lagosian.

The FG abandonded Lagos and left the State to her fate in the rush to move everything to the North, via Abuja, same way Nigeria myopically abandoned cocoa etal once oil was discovered.

It was the administrative brilliance of Tinubu that rescued Lagos and made her what she is today.

That is why Western administrators, the true arbiters of African leadedship, always visit and spend time with Tinubu while shunning other leaders in Nigeria.

They respect him massively for what he has achieved even if we enjoy lying to ourselves in Nigeria and fail to give credit where due because of ethno-religious bias against others.

Even before they arrive Lagos they have already read one of the many case studies in their home nation about the exemplary transformation of Lagos under BAT.

You people should fear God when you tell these lies about Lagos thriving because she is a former capital.

Same Lagos that was filth and crime-ridden before BAT took over? Same Lagos that had no sanity and was a glorified jungle pre-1999?

The worst lies are those we tell ourselves.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Uchek(m): 5:22pm On Sep 19, 2021
That is not the issue. Every region/state will survive. If small countries like Togo, Benin Republic and Ghana are surviving, why wouldn't Lagos, with a bigger population, survive?

Do you even understand the meaning of the word SURVIVE?
This is not another Yoruba-Ndigbo online fight. Where did you dereive your 75% and 85% statistic that you are giddily quoting. Is from a official government statistic from study on the ethnic distribution of Nigerian importers and ownership of properties in Lagos? Did you conduct a personal survey to arrive at this figure or you are just vomitting your own bias?




Verysmart101:
Can it survive without ndiigbo? These benin republic port are being patronised majorly by ndiigbo.85% of goods imported into Nigeria through tincan and apapa warf are ndiigbo.75% of building structures in Lagos are owned by ndiigbo which ndiigbo provides majority of land use charge for Lagos.And the list goes on.Lagos cannot survive without ndiigbo take it or leave it
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by eteba(m): 5:29pm On Sep 19, 2021
What is this parasite saying....terrorists!
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Zammeer(m): 5:30pm On Sep 19, 2021
Verysmart101:
Can it survive without ndiigbo? These benin republic port are being patronised majorly by ndiigbo.85% of goods imported into Nigeria through tincan and apapa warf are ndiigbo.75% of building structures in Lagos are owned by ndiigbo which ndiigbo provides majority of land use charge for Lagos.And the list goes on.Lagos cannot survive without ndiigbo take it or leave it
stfu � go and develop ur own states then
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by ajayisunday: 5:49pm On Sep 19, 2021
This masari is the real joke when talking about Nigeria and you are going out of the context of Nigeria. Is Togo and benin part of Nigeria. Afterall, the boarder at south were shut while the one at north were open. Did u mean the southern Governors should be working and collect taxes from people living in there respective states that is meant for Roads maintance and other basic amenities to be allow to take charge by Northern Governor seaten and do nothing at there respective statws to spend.My friend there can only be a remittance to the Federal Government finish
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Lightorder: 5:56pm On Sep 19, 2021
GUNITGuy:
They said Edo no be Lagos ....now Edo people don't want to leave Lagos alone .....They all around my neighborhood claiming a false sense of superiority
Yorubas are gentle with strangers honestly and harsh on themselves..
Why are they not laying claim to kano, port Harcourt, ( they said ikwerre people came from Benin) or even warri ( urhobo and isoko) are also Benin origin
.Do you know why ? This places have no place for forgiveness they can't hear 'warri belong to benin" and the whole street of warri won't be on fire against Benin people in warri.
So is with kano and port
....But would want to lay claim Lagos they hate.....Thinking Yorubas are easy to be bullied they quickly talk boldly about owning what's not theirs....

....
you have a point there. But Two Yoruba sons told me in different occasions that the Benin claim story on Lagos is true. Maybe that could be the reason they maintain the claims
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Awoleesu(m): 6:01pm On Sep 19, 2021
codemaniacs:
he has no point...
Invariably.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Obamaofusa: 6:05pm On Sep 19, 2021
BigSarah:
Well there you go, you can't make the earnings of cosmopolitan states exclusive that's just common sense

Lagos
Rivers
Kano
Ogun
Kaduna
Delta

Are significantly cosmopolitan, but then again the sharing formula should be fairer and reasonable than it currently is..
But it was Lagos,Rivers and Oyo that generated the highest VAT but got lesser allocations..
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by quickly: 6:05pm On Sep 19, 2021
Lightorder:
you have a point there. But Two Yoruba sons told me in different occasions that the Benin claim story on Lagos is true. Maybe that could be the reason they maintain the claims
If Benin owned lagos redo language would have been the lingua before English.

Just like saying Portuguese or British own lagos because they invaded it

The part where they resided was lagos island.

Lagos island is just a part of lagos there is ikorodu, Epe, lekki, badagry etc

The 1st oba of Benin was a son of an Ooni. Doesn’t mean ife owns Benin

Ppl and their weird logic
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by quickly: 6:08pm On Sep 19, 2021
Clubs , restaurants, beer parlors almost contribute heavily to VAT
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Obamaofusa: 6:09pm On Sep 19, 2021
Lightorder:
you have a point there. But Two Yoruba sons told me in different occasions that the Benin claim story on Lagos is true. Maybe that could be the reason they maintain the claims
Ask those 2 fake Yorubas the reason the Benin people have never sold land in Lagos before if they truly own it.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by gulfer: 6:33pm On Sep 19, 2021
Oga, carry your population and generate your own VAT...... Lagos doesn't need anything from your itinerant abokis. Tell me how many of your peopl pushing trucks in Lagos contribute to the AT we are talking about huh huh huh
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by lhurd: 6:43pm On Sep 19, 2021
I was about to insult this "thing", but it's not worth anyone's time. Oga Masari, you are a joke for a human being.
teeshet:
https://gazettengr.com/northern-states-responsible-for-lagos-rivers-economic-development-masari/
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by OGUN622: 6:46pm On Sep 19, 2021
GUNITGuy:
They said Edo no be Lagos ....now Edo people don't want to leave Lagos alone .....They all around my neighborhood claiming a false sense of superiority
Yorubas are gentle with strangers honestly and harsh on themselves..
Why are they not laying claim to kano, port Harcourt, ( they said ikwerre people came from Benin) or even warri ( urhobo and isoko) are also Benin origin
.Do you know why ? This places have no place for forgiveness they can't hear 'warri belong to benin" and the whole street of warri won't be on fire against Benin people in warri.
So is with kano and port
....But would want to lay claim Lagos they hate.....Thinking Yorubas are easy to be bullied they quickly talk boldly about owning what's not theirs....

....
because we have no history with Kano, we might have with portharcourt but it is not so clear, but there are certainly migrant Edo population in rivers state ( degema and Engenni) they are Edoids group linguistically, and it is in their Orals they migrated from Benin.

Urhobo and Isoko are Edo groups by blood, linguistically and culturally, they share so much similarity with Bini than anyother group in Nigeria because that is what they are ( Edos by ancestry) They have a local name for Bini in their native tongue (Aka) where they migrated from. They are the ones preaching their descent from Bini not the other way round.

There has been some move to downplay Binis influence on precolonial lagos, up till 1850 Lagos paid tribute to the Oba of Benin that is why there is some reinforcement of Opinions on their part, up till the 19th century, Lagos was an integral part of Benin Empire
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by teepain: 6:53pm On Sep 19, 2021
Verysmart101:
Can it survive without ndiigbo? These benin republic port are being patronised majorly by ndiigbo.85% of goods imported into Nigeria through tincan and apapa warf are ndiigbo.75% of building structures in Lagos are owned by ndiigbo which ndiigbo provides majority of land use charge for Lagos.And the list goes on.Lagos cannot survive without ndiigbo take it or leave it
Each of the regions can survive independently. These leaders lacking in intellect and administrative creativity are the problem.

The Eastern, Western and Northern regions were doing well back in the days. With her Cocoa industry, the western region developed the first television station in Africa and other firsts.

Were it not for the madness of this unitary system of government that was introduced by leeches, the independent regions would have been more developed than we are.

The Eastern part of the country would have been fine with the technical and trading competences of her citizens; the western part would have done well for herself with Agriculture and administrative gift of her human resources and the Northern part would have been more than okay with her Agriculture and leather industry.

Sadly, the exploration of crude oil introduced laziness and almajiri kind of system into governance where Governors go cap in hand to beg for handouts from the Federal Government. A South-Eastern leader of opinion called it "feeding bottle" economics and the description is very fitting.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Newtonn047: 6:57pm On Sep 19, 2021
This guy's r trying to cause ethnic tension here and u r playing into their trap,,
OneTemplate:
Lol. I can tell you for free that the first sign of a loser is that he remains fixated on dubious past glory perhaps because he is nothing in the present and knows he will remain nothing. Hence the need to create fantasies about the past.

Even indulging your idiotic revisionism, why is an Edo not Governor of Lagos today and why no single Lagos State Senator or Rep who is Edo?

How many local Government chairman in Lagos of Edo origin? Why is Lagos State legislative house not full of Edos? Loser.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by teepain: 7:00pm On Sep 19, 2021
Awoleesu:
Mr. Masari has a good political argument but a lame economics one!

If we take Democratic economies like India, USA etc for instance, you'll discover that a region like Goa decided to promote economically proactive policies when it became clear she had to compete with regions like Punjab and Central India or fall into the non-viable brackets of regions like Pradesh - note that they all have seaports!
The idea is that the economic less-viable states should rather be challenged to bring to the front burner their economic comparative advantages instead of complaining about being threatened (even as a consumer based economy)!

In Masari's Katsina for example, Sharp sand is in excessive abundance. Why can't he think of generating IGR by 'exporting' the commodity to a predominantly rocky Abuja for an economic exchange?

Utah does not begrudge Indianapolis for being a gateway to the US, nor does N.Dakota feel cheated by the prosperity of Florida simply because they operate within the same federation.
Each state look inward to bring up a competitive advantage...

That's what Wike meant by "putting on their thinking caps..." That's what Masari should be doing, and not arguing about being the "demand aide".

What happened to the Katsina Steel Rolling Mill under Masari? This complex is capable of triggering a multiplier effect of chain markets, but what we saw is that it has gone moribund!

So, Oga no one will lower the bar for you simply because you chose to be unproductive... Get in the ring and compete! That's what Democratic economics is all about!
May Almighty God bless you. Very apt.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Gordieshegz(m): 7:06pm On Sep 19, 2021
Enugupikin:
There is some sense in what he is saying ,Lagos can't stand alone without the rest of Nigeria. Those corporate headquarters too and the ports and all that stems from the Nigerian people
And your reason for high VAT generation in Ogun and Oyo will likely be proximity to Lagos, right?

I will then ask why the same proximity of Cross River and AkwaIbom to Rivers isn't reflecting in their VAT generation
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:36pm On Sep 19, 2021
OneTemplate:
What truth? Lagos was left for dead before Tinubu took over in 1999. I am a Lagosian.

The FG abandonded Lagos and left the State to her fate in the rush to move everything to the North, via Abuja, same way Nigeria myopically abandoned cocoa etal once oil was discovered.

It was the administrative brilliance of Tinubu that rescued Lagos and made her what she is today.

That is why Western administrators, the true arbiters of African leadedship, always visit and spend time with Tinubu while shunning other leaders in Nigeria.

They respect him massively for what he has achieved even if we enjoy lying to ourselves in Nigeria and fail to give credit where due because of ethno-religious bias against others.

Even before they arrive Lagos they have already read one of the many case studies in their home nation about the exemplary transformation of Lagos under BAT.

You people should fear God when you tell these lies about Lagos thriving because she is a former capital.

Same Lagos that was filth and crime-ridden before BAT took over? Same Lagos that had no sanity and was a glorified jungle pre-1999?

The worst lies are those we tell ourselves.
It would be interesting to know how old you are. Because the notion that Lagos was "was left for dead before Tinubu took over in 1999" or that it was some "glorified jungle" transformed by Tinubu is some absurd fiction. I've lived in Lagos since I was in nursery school in the 90's and Buba Marwa was actually one of the most respected military governors in Nigeria at the time and his administration in Lagos was one of the more lauded among military governors. In many ways, Lagos was far more livable in the 90's than it is today. You people just love to hype nonsense about the administrative capacity of Lagos governors when they are just fortunate to govern the industrial and commercial nerve center of the country, Nigeria's main gateway, and a state which was Nigeria's capital for 76 years - far longer than Abuja has been - and profited immensely from its special status since colonial times. I can hardly even think of anything Tinubu built in Lagos. Just silly overhype.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Gfskw: 8:57pm On Sep 19, 2021
Cow
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by oyatz(m): 9:44pm On Sep 19, 2021
Enugupikin:
There is some sense in what he is saying ,Lagos can't stand alone without the rest of Nigeria. Those corporate headquarters too and the ports and all that stems from the Nigerian people
Isn't this the reason why we are saying that every state should collect taxes on goods and services consumed in the State?

The Northern States claim to be responsible for the taxes in Lagos and Rivers States, let them take these taxes in their States so that Lagos and Rivers won't feed on it.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by oyatz(m): 9:49pm On Sep 19, 2021
Iamgrey5:
Just like the federal highway in your state and any federal building in your state.


Let's forget that Lagos was already economically viable before the advent of Nigeria for a second.

And Lagos can stand alone. There are lot of tiny island Nations around the world that are far Richer than Lagos.
This is inconsequential sir.

The law is the law; States are the rightful tier of Government to collect VATs within their States.
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Tgrey(m): 9:51pm On Sep 19, 2021
teeshet:
https://gazettengr.com/northern-states-responsible-for-lagos-rivers-economic-development-masari/
I see why we have so many northern beggers in Lagos,collecting development task every angle
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by luluman: 10:12pm On Sep 19, 2021
Enugupikin:
There is some sense in what he is saying ,Lagos can't stand alone without the rest of Nigeria. Those corporate headquarters too and the ports and all that stems from the Nigerian people
ok, why not leave us or why cry for us?
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by luluman: 10:12pm On Sep 19, 2021
austinvsb:
If you think you really have the population that sustains Lagos, when States starts VAT collection, use that population to your advantage and generate taxes from them.

Bunch of leeches
GBAM!!
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by olatuns2017: 10:16pm On Sep 19, 2021
teeshet:
https://gazettengr.com/northern-states-responsible-for-lagos-rivers-economic-development-masari/
IPOBs can never see the other side of the story

IPOBs are really zombies leaving in the zoo
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Comedian2019: 10:16pm On Sep 19, 2021
Mumu talk
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by preciousmetals: 10:36pm On Sep 19, 2021
Always talking nonsense, tell us how much do northerners contribute in vat in Lagos and River State, you guys should continue depending on the South, it will soon clear your eye
Re: Masari On VAT: Northern States Responsible For Lagos, Rivers Development by Agboriotejoye(m): 10:43pm On Sep 19, 2021
Chai!! Lagos has suffered!

2015-2019: Igbos developed Lagos

2019-2023: Abokis developed Lagos

Lagos na wa o
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