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Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Dtruthspeaker: 4:29pm On Sep 19, 2021
SuperNova33:
I disagree ... You don't have any solid reference you just put words together to get to conclusion that suits your narrative

grin Now you are being Shifty and looking for a place to hide!

Did you request for reference when I answered you?

NO, YOU DID NOT.

Why?

Because you clearly understood my answers AND YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY REASONABLE COUNTER TO PRESENT.

SO THIS MATTER IS CLOSED AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO OPEN IT. grin
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by SuperNova33: 4:32pm On Sep 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin Now you are being Shifty and looking for a place to hide!

Did you request for reference when I answered you?

NO, YOU DID NOT.

Why?

Because you clearly understood my answers AND YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY REASONABLE COUNTER TO PRESENT.

SO THIS MATTER IS CLOSED AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO OPEN IT. grin




ok let me be clear .... Noah, how did the polar bear get into thethe ark and don't say God works in mysterious ways let's start there
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Dtruthspeaker: 4:41pm On Sep 19, 2021
SuperNova33:
ok let me be clear .... Noah, how did the polar bear get into thethe ark and don't say God works in mysterious ways let's start there

Is it Noah or I who did it? Is it not God Who has to do it?

There is no removing God from this equation and When God is in it, Anything can happen!
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by SuperNova33: 4:45pm On Sep 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Is it Noah or I who did it? Is it not God Who has to do it?

There is no removing God from this equation and When God is in it, Anything can happen!

that is what I am saying .... You only say things based on what your programming affords and it will be a total waste of my time to still be on about it .... You are too far gone ... Why did God now need an arc why not suspend the animals in the air tho if God magically brings polar bears to the middle east?

Think ... open your mind.

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Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Dtruthspeaker: 4:51pm On Sep 19, 2021
SuperNova33:
that is what I am saying .... You only say things based on what your programming affords and it will be a total waste of my time to still be on about it .... You are too far gone ...

grin That is what it means to be a creation, None can go beyond their programming just like you.

SuperNova33:

Why did God now need an arc why not suspended in thrthe air tho?

Think ... open your mind.

grin He can do that if He wanted it exactly as Mr. Toyota could have decided to make Submarines but he chose to make cars instead. grin

That is his right and no one can complain that why did he not choose to build submarines! grin

No, you dont have that right!
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by SuperNova33: 4:56pm On Sep 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin That is what it means to be a creation, None can go beyond their programming just like you.



grin He can do that if He wanted it exactly as Mr. Toyota could have decided to make Submarines but he chose to make cars instead. grin

That is his right and no one can complain that why did he not choose to build submarines! grin

No, you dont have that right!
beyond the point Mr Toyota could have made balloons but yet he made Toyota because it was going to solve transportation problems... God could have easily made Noah and the ark to fly but he didn't and you are telling me he make polar bears appear in the sand ? Think .
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Bluewitch(f): 5:28pm On Sep 19, 2021
LoverOfPussy:
Christians why una god nor gree forgive devil na? undecided


grin cheesy

He doesn't wanna lead by example
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35pm On Sep 19, 2021
LoverOfPussy:

Christians why una god nor gree forgive devil na? undecided

The devil committed the unforgivable sin!

For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come" Matthew 12:32

Satan committed the unforgivable when he lied against God's Holy Spirit saying the arrangement set in the Garden of Eden is faulty {Genesis 3:4-5} whereas it was the best setting ever! Genesis 1:31

The same way many are sinning against God's Holy Spirit today when they see it in action but choose to speak against it! Isaiah 5:20

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Dtruthspeaker: 6:50pm On Sep 19, 2021
SuperNova33:
beyond the point Mr Toyota could have made balloons but yet he made Toyota because it was going to solve transportation problems... God could have easily made Noah and the ark to fly but he didn't and you are telling me he make polar bears appear in the sand ? Think .

You are saying the same thing I said grin Mr Toyoda Has the Right to Choose any way he likes whether balloons, drigibles, arks or cars to solve ANY PROBLEM, Exactly as God has a Right to Choose ANY THING, to Solve A Problem grin
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by SuperNova33: 7:09pm On Sep 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


You are saying the same thing I said grin Mr Toyoda Has the Right to Choose any way he likes whether balloons, drigibles, arks or cars to solve ANY PROBLEM, Exactly as God has a Right to Choose ANY THING, to Solve A Problem grin

but your logic is flawed if you say he has every right to choose anything, then you are taking the easy way out by explaining everything with the same answer ... It is pointless if all you have to say is God can choose to make Noah build the arc when he could magically make it appear. Or maybe you will say he wanted to test his obedience that is why. You just want to talk but your perspective is shallow because if you don't have a valid point you fill it theis gap with what ever you can find to make you feel good ...

Same thing with the tree in the garden ... You wI'll say God can choose anything to solve an avoidable problem?

It's a baseless answer.
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Dtruthspeaker: 7:21pm On Sep 19, 2021
SuperNova33:
but your logic is flawed if you say he has every right to choose anything, then you are taking the easy way out grin by explaining everything with the same answer

grin when there are doors in room are we not supposed to walk through them? grin

You don't have anything reasonable to say, so just drop it. grin
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by SuperNova33: 7:25pm On Sep 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin when there are doors in room are we not supposed to walk through them? grin

You don't have anything reasonable to say, so just drop it. grin

you have not had anything reasonable for a while now ... so I drop it grin till you can find answers. Go an see Jesus boat on front page ... your fellow believers are forming a crowd already... You are of more value there
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Dtruthspeaker: 7:28pm On Sep 19, 2021
SuperNova33:
you have not had anything reasonable for a while now ... so I drop it grin till you can find answers. Go an see Jesus boat on front page ... your fellow believers are forming a crowd already... You are of more value there

grin Saving face and having the last word does not work where in written debates! grin
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by SuperNova33: 7:30pm On Sep 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin Saving face and having the last word does not work where in written debates! grin
did you see the boat ? Go back there ... You are useless here . grin grin
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by Myer(m): 9:26pm On Sep 19, 2021
obonujoker:
Has the devil repented?

Repentance is not a condition for forgive.
According to the bible, before you come before God you must make peace with your brother. Meaning whether or not he repents, find a way to make peace with him. And forgive 70x7 times in a day.

So according to the bible, God does not necessarily need the devil to repent, he can simply forgive and make peace with him.

Otherwise, he cannot expect man to forgive and make peace with everyone.
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by hupernikao: 7:16am On Sep 20, 2021
SuperNova33:
devil works for God if you don't know ..

Let me explain

When Jesus Christ was in the wilderness, he went there to be tested, and who was the invigilator?

You guessed it ! The devil


When job was on his own living a life of righteousness,

The devil went to heaven when God called a meeting and he strolled in. And God gave him a warm reception and even gave him a bet that job will be steadfast.

Does thst sound like enemies to you?

Open your mind !

You will need to revisit the Bible you read again and reread properly. Such assumptions above are due to improper reading of Bible pages. Please do read well.
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by hupernikao: 7:19am On Sep 20, 2021
SuperNova33:
that is from the new testament and the new testament is corrupted already ...

If God is omnipotent it means he created everything that is creatable. Unless you mean God has limit to light. You need to open your mind

And the events of Christ temptation you quoted is from where? Do you pick scriptures for convenience?

Secondly, you don't seems to understand what like means as used for God. It's not speaking of fluorescent or bulb or sun light Sir. You need to start reading properly to avoid this kind of error in interpretation.
Re: God Said We Should Forgive But He Is Yet To Forgive The Devil by hupernikao: 7:28am On Sep 20, 2021
SuperNova33:
the devil has hell ... And do you think he is burning in he'll? How do you explain him roaming about to and fro like a hungry lion looking for whom to devour? If he was under punishment

How do youyou explain that

Brother, read and read again and again. Devil has hell? What exactly is hell?

Do you understand the current state of the devil? If you do and you know what punishment is, you will know its state is a reserved state for punishment.

I will truly appreciate you give scriptures in your explanation here to avoid telling cultural and personal stories.

2 Peter 2:4
“For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;”


That state of darkness is a chain, a restriction, a place where he is held till till of judgement. That's synonymous to holding cell, movement restriction within a region. He cannot see through light. He's bound totally to the place of darkness, hence that should answer your OP. Darkness is a state, light is a state.

John 8:12
....he that believe on me shall not walk in darkness but hath the light of life.

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