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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:51am On Sep 21, 2021
I know arsenal fans like to hype their own, but u guys need to pipe down on this Odegaard hype abeg! If we are to learn anything from history, we should remember Willian had 3 assists in his first game for arsenal and we all know it ended.


I'm not saying Odegaard will turn out to be another Willian, but all these comparison with Maddison's current form are unnecessary at this point in time . Not saying u shouldn’t Stan ur fave , but season still young o.

Let’s hope the team continues to play well and we can all discuss which Transfer window decision was right at the end of the season

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:49am On Sep 21, 2021
Roland17:


While I understand your concern regarding Partey, implore you to be patient with Partey. I believe it is clear to everyone including our opponents that Partey is class. He is the only player that I can confidently argue will walk into the first 11 of the top teams in the EPL if healthy.

He is currently on a minutes restriction and that was why he signaled to be subbed against Burnley. If you watch the game closely, you will notice he was fatigued by the time he was subbed and that is expected, especially when you consider how much he has missed real action. His conditioning will come, however, it will be gradual.

Also, this man is coming from the La Liga which can not be compared to the ruggedness/ physicality and speed of the EPL,. Prior to Arsenal, he did not have a long history with injuries. The most recent ankle injury was not his doing.. If anything, he had no business playing that friendly against Chelsea, it was a dirty tackle from RLC. We need to be patient with him because if he finds a way to stay healthy, we stand a good chance of making this season good.
My brother exclude Chelsea from that ur any premier league ist 11
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:06am On Sep 21, 2021
francisgodstime:
My brother exclude Chelsea from that ur any premier league ist 11

The only exceptional player in Chelsea Midfield is Kante. A fit Partey will walk into Chelsea midfield alongside Kante.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:47am On Sep 21, 2021
edi287:

I think it had more to do with Burnley finally opening up a bit and the energy Lokonga and AMN brought when they came in.
ESR does feel a bit uncomfortable playing as one of the 8s though. I noticed Arteta switched him to the left while Saka moved to the middle during the game.
Hopefully he adapts soon.
I refer ESR on the LW too. But Saka playing 8 with Ødegaard won't bring the best in him. I will rather like to see him on the RW and Pepe as a support Striker since he likes to dribble. That will also get him closer to the box which is where we all want him to be.

............. Auba ....... Pepe..............
ESR............ Odegaard......... Saka
...................... Partey......................
Tierney. Gabriel.. White.... Tomi

With this formation we can get the best from both Saka and Pepe, also since Tomi can cover at CB, whenever Tierney pushes forward he will easily tuck in there and vice versa. With the acquisitions of White and Tomi, and the form of Pepe, this was what I expected Arteta to do. He should forget 'Xhaka must play' and do what's right for the team especially against weaker opposition that park the defense.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 9:21am On Sep 21, 2021
Spy360:

I refer ESR on the LW too. But Saka playing 8 with Ødegaard won't bring the best in him. I will rather like to see him on the RW and Pepe as a support Striker since he likes to dribble. That will also get him closer to the box which is where we all want him to be.

............. Auba ....... Pepe..............
ESR............ Odegaard......... Saka
...................... Partey......................
Tierney. Gabriel.. White.... Tomi

With this formation we can get the best from both Saka and Pepe, also since Tomi can cover at CB, whenever Tierney pushes forward he will easily tuck in there and vice versa. With the acquisitions of White and Tomi, and the form of Pepe, this was what I expected Arteta to do. He should forget 'Xhaka must play' and do what's right for the team especially against weaker opposition that park the defense.

How does a RB cover-up for a LB that has gone upfield to attack ? Are suggesting Gabriel drifts to LB at that point and Tomiyasu covers CB along with White?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:37pm On Sep 21, 2021
BlueRayDick:


How does a RB cover-up for a LB that has gone upfield to attack ? Are suggesting Gabriel drifts to LB at that point and Tomiyasu covers CB along with White?
They will form a back three if either full back overlaps or joins Partey in midfield. This is to add more bodies in the opponents area while securing the back.
........... Auba ........ Pepe..........
Tierney.. ESR..Odegaard. Saka
.................. Partey .................
... Gabriel... White... Tomi....

........... Auba ........ Pepe..........
ESR..Odegaard. Saka... Tomi
.................. Partey .................
... Tierney..Gabriel... White...

I am even seeing a case where White can cover up in DM, as Partey pushes further up. But that would be risky.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 4:00pm On Sep 21, 2021
Does Arteta have what it takes this season to stun Chelsea and Liverpool in any tie?


Cos i doubt he can.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:37pm On Sep 21, 2021
Spy360:

They will form a back three if either full back overlaps or joins Partey in midfield. This is to add more bodies in the opponents area while securing the back.
........... Auba ........ Pepe..........
Tierney.. ESR..Odegaard. Saka
.................. Partey .................
... Gabriel... White... Tomi....

........... Auba ........ Pepe..........
ESR..Odegaard. Saka... Tomi
.................. Partey .................
... Tierney..Gabriel... White...

I am even seeing a case where White can cover up in DM, as Partey pushes further up. But that would be risky.





I have preference for the 2nd line up because I prefer Gabriel in the middle of the back 3 as I don’t trust White in the middle. With that being said, I will switch ESR with Saka for the WB role.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:14pm On Sep 21, 2021
Roland17:


I have preference for the 2nd line up because I prefer Gabriel in the middle of the back 3 as I don’t trust White in the middle. With that being said, I will switch ESR with Saka for the WB role.
Have you seen Norton cuffy in action?
He's a RB, the future is bright if we really plan this right, many black guys in that youth setup that have real and raw potential
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:46pm On Sep 21, 2021
iamoyindamola:
Fkhalifa come out
Let me drag you small, you see the way them flog the coach you hype so much.
Nuno espirito, thank God we no carry am grin
I didn't hype him, I rate him good enough to take Arsenal up the ladder. That he lost to Chelsea means nothing, Klopp lost 7-1/last season. ...judge Nuno by how he took a newly promoted Wolves side to europe, How he was able to assemble a team confident of standing toe to toe and beating the big guns in the league ...
How he unearthed quality players playing good Halal football with little or lesser budget...
BTW, the season hasn't ended, judge him at the end of the season and don't forget he beat city's pep earlier in the season.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:49pm On Sep 21, 2021
Roland17:


I have preference for the 2nd line up because I prefer Gabriel in the middle of the back 3 as I don’t trust White in the middle. With that being said, I will switch ESR with Saka for the WB role.
It's actually a transition phase, when one full back attacks and the other having to tuck in.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:51pm On Sep 21, 2021
Also, I read some fans trying to gas up Odergard over Madison, Arsenal fans like self consoling or deluding a lot. ( We like to think we always make right decision)...

That Madison isn't on form now doesn't mean he won't pick up, or whenever he plays his team must win, must assist or give up good stats.

Again, let's see at by mid season or ending.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:24pm On Sep 21, 2021
Fkhalifa:

I didn't hype him, I rate him good enough to take Arsenal up the ladder. That he lost to Chelsea means nothing, Klopp lost 7-1/last season. ...judge Nuno by how he took a newly promoted Wolves side to europe, How he was able to assemble a team confident of standing toe to toe and beating the big guns in the league ...
How he unearthed quality players playing good Halal football with little or lesser budget...
BTW, the season hasn't ended, judge him at the end of the season and don't forget he beat city's pep earlier in the season.
Arteta also beat Chelsea,lfc,man utd and city
Nuno is th chief in command of harram football,did you watch their match at all
Smh....
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:24pm On Sep 21, 2021
Fkhalifa:
Also, I read some fans trying to gas up Odergard over Madison, Arsenal fans like self consoling or deluding a lot. ( We like to think we always make right decision)...

That Madison isn't on form now doesn't mean he won't pick up, or whenever he plays his team must win, must assist or give up good stats.

Again, let's see at by mid season or ending.
Don't mind those ones jare
Just because Madison lose form them they compare with madives
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:07pm On Sep 21, 2021
Fkhalifa:
Also, I read some fans trying to gas up Odergard over Madison, Arsenal fans like self consoling or deluding a lot. ( We like to think we always make right decision)...

That Madison isn't on form now doesn't mean he won't pick up, or whenever he plays his team must win, must assist or give up good stats.

Again, let's see at by mid season or ending.
You mean Odegaard can never be better than Maddison or what?

Those who are praising Odegaard are doing so because of fans like you that always see greener grasses in your neighbors yard.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 12:23am On Sep 22, 2021
Fkhalifa:
Also, I read some fans trying to gas up Odergard over Madison, Arsenal fans like self consoling or deluding a lot. ( We like to think we always make right decision)...

That Madison isn't on form now doesn't mean he won't pick up, or whenever he plays his team must win, must assist or give up good stats.

Again, let's see at by mid season or ending.

No, you are not getting the point. It was not a full comparison but an assessment of "what if"

The point is had we bought an out of form Maddison instead of Odegaard, our team would have had a much worse beginning. We would have needed more prayer warriors to also pray for him to get back in form like we are praying for Auba now.

Anyways, I pray Maddison gets back to form because I like his football, and for the love of Arsenal I also pray that Odegaard will also improve massively.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 12:46am On Sep 22, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Don't mind those ones jare
Just because Madison lose form them they compare with madives

Lol it same way you are assessing Nuno just cause he had one or 2 bad games. We know it's not the end of the season yet, but it's allowed to make few on spot assessments and comparisons from time to time. Doesn't mean we think it will remain like that.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:05am On Sep 22, 2021
ObaIgwe1:


Lol it same way you are assessing Nuno just cause he had one or 2 bad games. We know it's not the end of the season yet, but it's allowed to make few on spot assessments and comparisons from time to time. Doesn't mean we think it will remain like that.
Not the same way, Nuno and Arteta are like brothers
He said Nuno was better I haven't seen what he have to edge Arteta
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:22am On Sep 22, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Arteta also beat Chelsea,lfc,man utd and city
Nuno is th chief in command of harram football,did you watch their match at all
Smh....
You were willing to give Arterta almost 2 years trusting the processs before you can asses him, but you want to crucify Nuno after 5 games.
If you watch Wolves of Nuno, you won't even bring haram football near his name.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:23am On Sep 22, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Don't mind those ones jare
Just because Madison lose form them they compare with madives
Madison na boss any day
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:26am On Sep 22, 2021
Spy360:

You mean Odegaard can never be better than Maddison or what?

Those who are praising Odegaard are doing so because of fans like you that always see greener grasses in your neighbors yard.
You wan start to dey twist like Shakira and turn Amala again?
Where did I say or implied that?

Odegard is good but not at the level of Madison.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:28am On Sep 22, 2021
ObaIgwe1:


No, you are not getting the point. It was not a full comparison but an assessment of "what if"

The point is had we bought an out of form Maddison instead of Odegaard, our team would have had a much worse beginning. We would have needed more prayer warriors to also pray for him to get back in form like we are praying for Auba now.

Anyways, I pray Maddison gets back to form because I like his football, and for the love of Arsenal I also pray that Odegaard will also improve massively.
OK, now I get your point.

But Madison could have also come with an impressive form, anything happens in football.
I understand you anyways.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:33am On Sep 22, 2021
Fkhalifa:

You were willing to give Arterta almost 2 years trusting the processs before you can asses him, but you want to crucify Nuno after 5 games.
If you watch Wolves of Nuno, you won't even bring haram football near his name.
No one is giving Arteta years
Nuno play defensive football same as Arteta
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:30am On Sep 22, 2021
Fkhalifa:

You wan start to dey twist like Shakira and turn Amala again?
Where did I say or implied that?

Odegard is good but not at the level of Madison.
Bring up your stats. grin

You know that I love arguments like beans and bread. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:53pm On Sep 22, 2021
Spy360:

Bring up your stats. grin

You know that I love arguments like beans and bread. grin

No be me and you cheesy
Goan meet Jodera, na him get strength.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 5:54pm On Sep 22, 2021
2016/17

Only three left. Nice.


And Elneny is one of those three. cheesy

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:02pm On Sep 22, 2021
Fkhalifa:

No be me and you cheesy
Goan meet Jodera, na him get strength.
grin grin grin

You live to fight another day. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:59pm On Sep 22, 2021
Partey doesn't have any business in this match, you useless coach angry
FFS this fool will surely start xhaka in nld
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:02pm On Sep 22, 2021
No patino on Bench
What a coward coach
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:47pm On Sep 22, 2021
That is part ur doing in the lineup for 4ck sake?

Later if he gets injured in this match spy360 will say it's a dirty tackle that got him injured and not the coach that starts him in an inconsequential match angry

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:04pm On Sep 22, 2021
Abeg who get streaming link...seems hesgoal no carry the this Match
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 8:06pm On Sep 22, 2021
Why in God’s name is Partey even listed for this game worth more are we staring!!! I mean we have Spuds to play Saturday.. This is part of what upsets me..

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