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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 3:44am On Sep 25, 2021
pkasso:
I would love to see this. The Laws of The Game need a shake-up and i like that managers are speaking up about things like this. A few days ago, it was Nagelsmann calling for change and inclusion of more technology, even going as far as suggesting a player wearing earpieces, so the coach can pass tactical information to them.

The guys at IFAB need to come up with innovative rules that will encourage attacking football and make the game more exciting. The last major rule made in this regard was the backpass rule and that was a long time ago.

I think what Pioli meant was when you cross the halfway line with the ball, you can't play it back into your own half. Like in basketball. This means players are encouraged or in this case forced to come up with attacking solutions and not just pass the ball all the way back when they run out of ideas. Adding a shot clock would also spice things up. Say, 15s to get the ball out, and 45s to attempt a shot. Again, like in basketball grin You can imagine the excitement that such open, end-to-end games would generate.

In Basketball, I can attempt a shot when I can't pass. In football, it's difficult.

The courts in BB are also smaller, which makes moving the ball around easier. It's not the same for football.

I don't see how passing the ball back makes a team defensive. It's still part of a strategy in football.

I think football has been more attacking minded lately. We have seen full backs create chances in our generation. Some full backs have decent goal ratios too.

With Pioli's strategy, counter attacks won't even be possible. When a team loses the ball, there would be like 5 players sitting behind to defend. Even full backs would stay put to defend.

I'd like to see him try it out in his next match though. Even though he may lose, I'm interested in how many goals he would get out of this strategy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 7:34am On Sep 25, 2021
Saw this on Twitter.. this guy is right our attackers need to step up

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 7:40am On Sep 25, 2021
drisham:
Saw this on Twitter.. this guy is right our attackers need to step up

That Werner and YouTube comp hits hardest grin, that thing can deceive you cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:40am On Sep 25, 2021
Americanization of Football will soon begin.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:45am On Sep 25, 2021
drisham:
Saw this on Twitter.. this guy is right our attackers need to step up
you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides
mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and find rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem
Havertz10:


Crux is basically this grin if mount is the key that has to always play and every other player has to feed of keying to his game, and mount happens to be unintelligent, technically average and uncreative, the ripple effect of his damage to the team in general is exponential
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 7:55am On Sep 25, 2021
https://www.nairaland.com/6770680/buhari-asks-g20-cancel-nigerias

Buhari just set a new world record in foolishness. He's asking G20 countries to cancel all debts Nigeria owes them, yet he's requesting fresh loans worth billions of dollars.

Without paying the existing loans, he's seeking new ones.

In a sane clime, this man can't even be a councilor let alone a president.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 7:58am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides
mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem
I don't know exactly what your problem is, any problem in Chelsea will be mount related to you.

Someone accurately criticize our attackers but for you na mount cause other players woes but no player causes his own.

Mount is the reason why Ziyech only spam cross;
Mount is the reason why Havertz never play a through pass;
Mount is the reason why pulisic cannot stay fit;
Mount is the reason why Werner is missing sitters and 1 on1 with the goalkeeper.

FYI pulisic has been like this all his career, you can go and check his Dortmund career; how is that mount's fault at Chelsea?
How is it mount's fault that Werner missed three 1on 1 with the goalkeeper against spurs from the bench?

You are excluding lukaku now that he is banging goals if he encounter goal draught now na mount go still cause am.

Indirectly you are just promoting Mount because only few people can stomach the hate you directed towards him hence support him.
Anytime i quote you it means I can't stomach your hate towards him anymore even when I'm not his fan.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BARAJ92(m): 8:01am On Sep 25, 2021
izzou:


In Basketball, I can attempt a shot when I can't pass. In football, it's difficult.

The courts in BB are also smaller, which makes moving the ball around easier. It's not the same for football.

I don't see how passing the ball back makes a team defensive. It's still part of a strategy in football.

I think football has been more attacking minded lately. We have seen full backs create chances in our generation. Some full backs have decent goal ratios too.

With Pioli's strategy, counter attacks won't even be possible. When a team loses the ball, there would be like 5 players sitting behind to defend. Even full backs would stay put to defend.

I'd like to see him try it out in his next match though. Even though he may lose, I'm interested in how many goals he would get out of this strategy
This strategy will favour teams that has solid defenders.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:22am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides
mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and find rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem

My own is, how did Mount ruin Timo Werner?

It's Mount's fault that Werner consistently misses sitters? Or is Mount responsible for his poor ball control?

I really don't understand. And you promised us a lecture on this subject, I don't know what is taking you so long. Or did you misplace your lecture notes?

And the recent 'draggings' Mount is getting is because of Lukaku's gesticulations, and not cos of his own poor performances?

Comrade cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:23am On Sep 25, 2021
airmark:


Tapsoba of Leverkusen will look good in LCB position for us. Rudiger is replaceable.

grin grin grin

Your history with Boateng is well documented here but see the player you are recommending for us.

Who do you this thing airmark? cheesy cheesy

Perosn wey Per, Stones and traffic warden dey inspire. shocked shocked

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 8:23am On Sep 25, 2021
MorataFC:
grin grin grin
Goals go plenty like basketball

What is it with managers and coming out with insanely stupid rule proposals recently
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 8:25am On Sep 25, 2021
pkasso:
I would love to see this. The Laws of The Game need a shake-up and i like that managers are speaking up about things like this. A few days ago, it was Nagelsmann calling for change and inclusion of more technology, even going as far as suggesting a player wearing earpieces, so the coach can pass tactical information to them.

The guys at IFAB need to come up with innovative rules that will encourage attacking football and make the game more exciting. The last major rule made in this regard was the backpass rule and that was a long time ago.

I think what Pioli meant was when you cross the halfway line with the ball, you can't play it back into your own half. Like in basketball. This means players are encouraged or in this case forced to come up with attacking solutions and not just pass the ball all the way back when they run out of ideas. Adding a shot clock would also spice things up. Say, 15s to get the ball out, and 45s to attempt a shot. Again, like in basketball grin You can imagine the excitement that such open, end-to-end games would generate.

Why not bring a shot clock, backcourt violation, 4 quarters, change the goal to a basket high in the air, change the pitch size so it's smaller and make it wooden, make the teams smaller from 11 to 5, make it so you use your hands and not your feet and you got something very interesting.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:27am On Sep 25, 2021
OVA200:

I don't know exactly what your problem is, any problem in Chelsea will be mount related to you.

Someone accurately criticize our attackers but for you na mount cause other players woes but no player causes his own.

Mount is the reason why Ziyech only spam cross;
Mount is the reason why Havertz never play a through pass;
Mount is the reason why pulisic cannot stay fit;
Mount is the reason why Werner is missing sitters and 1 on1 with the goalkeeper.

FYI pulisic has been like this all his career, you can go and check his Dortmund career; how is that mount fault at Chelsea?
How is it mount fault that Werner missed three 1on 1 with the goalkeeper against spurs from the bench?

You are excluding lukaku now that he is banging goals if he encounter goal draught now na mount go still cause am.

Indirectly you are just promoting Mount because only few people can stomach the hate you directed towards him.
Anytime i quote you it means I can't stomach your hate towards him anymore even when I'm not his fan.

Gbam.

He had even thrown a subtle shade at Lukaku; referred to him as a 'problem' because to him, Lukaku hugs the inner right channel too much and it affects his (Havertz's) play.

In his words, "we bought a problem to cause another problem".

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chelseamann(m): 8:30am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides
mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and find rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem
I see say your village people don swear for u where mount de… every single topic about chelsea, you must narrow it down to mount ..
tufiakwa for u!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 8:40am On Sep 25, 2021
BlueMann:


Gbam.

He had even thrown a subtle shade at Lukaku; referred to him as a 'problem' because to him, Lukaku hugs the inner right channel too much and it affects his (Havertz's) play.

In his words, "we bought a problem to cause another problem".
It's easy to see through his shenanigans.

He should be glad we got lukaku because lukaku is one of the few remaining static center forward, he doesn't drift to any wing often except in a case of counter attack (which is very normal). If we get a striker like Benzema that will be playing as a winger and a striker combine; na that time him go know.

He should scold Havertz for not immediately occupying the vacant space left by lukaku but no everybody must be blame except Havertz, from Tuchel to lukaku to Mount.

The question should be can't havertz play other position apart from the RW?
I thought he is a midfielder.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 8:50am On Sep 25, 2021
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Havertz10:
[b]you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides

mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and find rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem

But we're saying the same thing. All our attackers bar lukaku are living on past glory and need to up their game


As for mount matter lipsrsealed me and you no get any convo... This guy pointed all our attackers.na only mount you wan criticize

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 8:51am On Sep 25, 2021
Almajirihunter:


That Werner and YouTube comp hits hardest grin, that thing can deceive you cheesy

As in ehn grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:54am On Sep 25, 2021
OVA200:

I don't know exactly what your problem is, any problem in Chelsea will be mount related to you.

Someone accurately criticize our attackers but for you na mount cause other players woes but no player causes his own.

Mount is the reason why Ziyech only spam cross;
Mount is the reason why Havertz never play a through pass;
Mount is the reason why pulisic cannot stay fit;
Mount is the reason why Werner is missing sitters and 1 on1 with the goalkeeper.

FYI pulisic has been like this all his career, you can go and check his Dortmund career; how is that mount fault at Chelsea?
How is it mount fault that Werner missed three 1on 1 with the goalkeeper against spurs from the bench?

You are excluding lukaku now that he is banging goals if he encounter goal draught now na mount go still cause am.

Indirectly you are just promoting Mount because only few people can stomach the hate you directed towards him.
Anytime i quote you it means I can't stomach your hate towards him anymore even when I'm not his fan.
Criticising a maDman is like disturbing yourself for nothing.


Just ignore him even if he says mount is the reason TT is slim.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SCOOPERJEF(m): 8:58am On Sep 25, 2021
Rent free

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 9:06am On Sep 25, 2021
pkasso:
I would love to see this. The Laws of The Game need a shake-up and i like that managers are speaking up about things like this. A few days ago, it was Nagelsmann calling for change and inclusion of more technology, even going as far as suggesting a player wearing earpieces, so the coach can pass tactical information to them.

The guys at IFAB need to come up with innovative rules that will encourage attacking football and make the game more exciting. The last major rule made in this regard was the backpass rule and that was a long time ago.

I think what Pioli meant was when you cross the halfway line with the ball, you can't play it back into your own half. Like in basketball. This means players are encouraged or in this case forced to come up with attacking solutions and not just pass the ball all the way back when they run out of ideas. Adding a shot clock would also spice things up. Say, 15s to get the ball out, and 45s to attempt a shot. Again, like in basketball grin You can imagine the excitement that such open, end-to-end games would generate.

Nagelsman or whatever that dumbo is called is high on coke.
Soon, he would ask human beings to be replaced with robots on the pitch of play.
The jury on VAR is out & people are debating its flaws. There are so many of it , if you ask me .
Scouts don't travel to watch young prospects in south America & Africa anymore, they now rely on Data Analysts, who use bunch of media campaigns by these half baked footballers to market them for clubs.
They should let football be football, the technology can be put into the business side of it but on the pitch of play, Football should remain as conservative as ever.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:23am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides
mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and find rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't Guy gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem
Guy don't u use ur sense always. Must u always bring mount? All our attackers are shits.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:24am On Sep 25, 2021
A001:
https://www.nairaland.com/6770680/buhari-asks-g20-cancel-nigerias

Buhari just set a new world record in foolishness. He's asking G20 countries to cancel all debts Nigeria owes them, yet he's requesting fresh loans worth billions of dollars.

Without paying the existing loans, he's seeking new ones.

In a sane clime, this man can't even be a councilor let alone a president.
nothing wrong in what he said, i'm even surprised that he is clever enough to propose that

it's going to be long grin

Before we begin this plenty verbose, know that our world is supposed to be like this, you exchange something of value to get something of value, gold is scarce, plenty people wanted it, so it became the first defacto currency, paper was used like receipt to transact gold because it was safer, lighter and most importantly because of it's fungibility

Nigeria's problem is that we have too much of our debts in dollars, if loans are in your local currency, they are non existent, just a figure on paper, that american debt that you always hear about na fugazi of the highest level, money no get intrinsic value, na we dey agree say that colourful paper get value based on the reality of the world, hyperinflation for instance can turn that colorful paper to decoration

the global dependence on the dollar for international trade is the real issue here, and america intentionally chose to make it like that, after world war 2, proposals suggested a global currency but they insisted on maintaining status quo, promising that they will peg their currency to gold and other countries can peg theirs to the dollar, a few yearsss later Nixon reversed that and floated the currency freely without the backing of gold, before you had to have gold to back every kobo you print now it's fiat and everybody is clinging onto a balloon that america protect by being the most powerful country in the world, Go to any country in this world and they will readily accept dollar, in some cases over their own local currency, I have said it numerous times, American currency is it's power, forget the military they use that one to enforce their currency, they have toppled so many presidents and dictators over their currency

100$ bill cost 14 cents to make, Americans can print as much as needed and use it to buy the goods and services from any other country, to be fair they have a good functional system and that enables it

If America should notice that any industry in their country needs a boost they will use fiscal policy to pump money printed out of thin air into it

If it's corporations they will use corporate bond market to inject liquidity into that sector

One major benefit of the aforementioned is local food security, food prices will remain relatively cheap for the masses, that's one thing developed countries have over poor countries, food is so cheap that the unused waste alone is nearly half


The edge they have over the world is unfair but people don't notice it, they instead adore them

I should also add that they are very self sufficient, 94% self sufficient, they invented so many things, have a very sound intellectual core, a moderately active manufacturing sector with an almost complete local manufacturing supply chain, their schools suck all the best minds in the world there and they become citizens there further blossoming their economy, that last one na coded jackpot that many people don't notice

they will only import because it's cheaper based on the dominance of their currency


Finally, government bonds are financial vehicles used to control inflation but it has an added benefit, the more developed a country the lower interest rates on their bonds, because the world agrees that based on the state of that country, it will always pay it's debt, during coronavirus some countries entered negative bond interest rates, imagine the kind printing that will require such an absurd inflationary effect, trust me you don't want to know cheesy

Nigerian governmental and economical system is a black hole sucking dreams and hopes, they can't apply fiscal policy cause they will steal the money and it will have no effect, our economy is largely dependent on imports limiting local growth and government wouldn't fix these flaws because they are financially gaining from the system and suffering little repercussions from the masses

the money they steal is stored in dollars making dollars more expensive inversely affecting the price of imported goods, based on say the economy is largely dependent on importation that will cause inflation cheesy


They can easily forgive the loans, will cost them nothing but how can they exert institutional racism grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:27am On Sep 25, 2021
OVA200:

I don't know exactly what your problem is, any problem in Chelsea will be mount related to you.

Someone accurately criticize our attackers but for you na mount cause other players woes but no player causes his own.

Mount is the reason why Ziyech only spam cross;
Mount is the reason why Havertz never play a through pass;
Mount is the reason why pulisic cannot stay fit;
Mount is the reason why Werner is missing sitters and 1 on1 with the goalkeeper.

FYI pulisic has been like this all his career, you can go and check his Dortmund career; how is that mount fault at Chelsea?
How is it mount fault that Werner missed three 1on 1 with the goalkeeper against spurs from the bench?

You are excluding lukaku now that he is banging goals if he encounter goal draught now na mount go still cause am.

Indirectly you are just promoting Mount because only few people can stomach the hate you directed towards him.
Anytime i quote you it means I can't stomach your hate towards him anymore even when I'm not his fan.
I don't have hate, I hate inefficiencies, with time, una go see everything I said cheesy

i'm not worried
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:31am On Sep 25, 2021
BlueMann:


My own is, how did Mount ruin Timo Werner?

It's Mount's fault that Werner consistently misses sitters? Or is Mount responsible for his poor ball control?

I really don't understand. And you promised us a lecture on this subject, I don't know what is taking you so long. Or did you misplace your lecture notes?


And the recent 'draggings' Mount is getting is because of Lukaku's gesticulations, and not cos of his own poor performances?

Comrade cheesy
grin grin cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 9:34am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
I don't have hate, I hate inefficiencies, with time, una go see everything I said cheesy

i'm not worried
Who ask you wether you are worried or not.
You hate inefficiency but Havertz have 2 goals contribution in over 400 minutes of football but we must only criticize mount.

Is this the best reply you could muster?

Defend what you earlier wrote or ble.ep out of my mention.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 9:38am On Sep 25, 2021
pkasso:
Times are changing and football needs to evolve as well. I'm not surprised at the disapproval shared by many people on the point he raised. Football has always been stubborn and slow to accept change.

The one i really want to see get implemented is 0 points for the teams that play out a goalless draw in a league game. People pay money and spend their time to watch a game only to see you run around for 90 mins without scoring a single goal. That is unpardonable in my book. No football game should ever end in a goalless draw. Never! grin grin
I agree with this one 100%
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:40am On Sep 25, 2021
OVA200:
Who ask you wether you are worried or not.
You hate inefficiency but Havertz have 2 goals contribution in over 400 minutes of football but we must only criticize mount.

Is this the best reply you could muster?

Defend what you earlier wrote or ble.ep out of my mention.
how many goals does mount have in let's multiply that by 2 cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 9:53am On Sep 25, 2021
drisham:
Saw this on Twitter.. this guy is right our attackers need to step up
We are indeed truly in trouble. All our attackers are out of form.

We need to see Pulisic when he gets back sha. Maybe try Odoi as a winger too. I believe Mount and Havertz can wreck havoc too but I think they are only lacking form now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 9:55am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
how many goals does mount have in let's multiply that by 2 cheesy
You are so predictable, i know this where you will spin it, that's why I purposely include the stat.
I don't like mount and don't rate him much and in the post you quoted the person criticize all our attackers bar lukaku but you claim mount is the problem for others.

2 G/A in over 400 minutes of football is very bad for an attacker and a generational talent.
That's on par with Silva and Alonso and 4 times worse than Recce james own.
If that is not bad to you then you need Jesus.

Criticize accordingly not blindly.

Defend what you earlier wrote or get the fvck out of my mention.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 9:57am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10:
you people like blaming our attackers but they have all proven themselves to be top players at previous clubs, the only outlier here is mount, asides
mount they all have experience at top level, they just need to hit form and find rhythm

I have already explained why mount is the most consequential piece causing this problem, he was about to ruin lukaku like he did timo but unlike timo that doesn't gesticulate, lukaku does hence the recent draggings that mount gets


it's a very simple problem
Boy is living the dream of every young footballer in London, you are wherever you are hating and developing migraine. I hope you find peace.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 10:07am On Sep 25, 2021
Few hours before City burn down Stamford bridge. Looking forward to Grealish and Kdb Masterclass. Today cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:16am On Sep 25, 2021
Havertz10 when you write a textbook on political economy do reserve a copy for me. I will advise you to pay close attention to Prof Yanis Varoufakis, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Marianna Mazucatto and Karl Polanyi works.

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