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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by qtguru(m): 5:07pm On Sep 29, 2021
BabaIbo:


Nothing like "Igbo have it in their culture." It exist in every tribe but may be more common among Igbos.

Anybody that gives is cheerful naturally and doesn't have anything to do with tribe.

I think the reason you think it is common among Igbos is because Igbos have more people with good and understanding hearts maybe due to the fact that they have higher people who have made it from the bottom to the top.

True but I find that the igbos from own observation have a sense of business focus regardless of illiteracy not saying it doesn't exist in other tribes, but more igbos are more inclined to move towards Business and Entrepreneurship.

https://qz.com/africa/2002636/what-silicon-valley-could-learn-from-nigerias-igbo-entrepreneurs/
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Nobody: 5:11pm On Sep 29, 2021
Hyphy:
Men prefer to uplift women till they’re jilted
And when women gets uplifted & power, they carry other women along by starting "Women's NGOs", organisations and some sh!t.

I pity men though.

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Rubbiish(m): 5:36pm On Sep 29, 2021
Pufpuf:
Whether men or women, I don't think I can help anybody again. I made plenty money in my first 4 years of leaving school; and I made sure I helped many: friends, relatives, siblings, people I know and those I don't know.
Now, I'm in a mess for the past 7months to the extent I can't feed myself but there's no one to help me, not even relatives nor friends. Infact, no one to borrow me money to eat.
Do you think I can help when I stand on my feet again?
So we humans teach ourselves how to behave to ourselves.
That is it!
Humans are naturally ungrateful!
Both men & women, it has nothing to do with gender!
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by chinchonglee(m): 5:52pm On Sep 29, 2021
bigpicture001:


Bro I really love ur courage..... I love that.. I once put up a thread about how outsiders without blood line can be more positively influencial I. One's life than family... All ya fake ppl wanted to toast me dead
You stated fact!
Those pple have dnt knw what is going on.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by OlawaleBammie: 5:52pm On Sep 29, 2021
chinchonglee:
My own worst pass everybody own..

I work for/with my brother in a start up company but the profit coming in from the start up is huge that you'd think the company has been existing for years.

This dude can let me make side income from the company.. he also handed all the finance of the company to a lady he was shagging while i do all of the mental and physical work. I didnt complain tho. He was busy buying venza for the girl and dashing all other girls money, i was jst looking at him.

I managed to raise my own capital and decided to take him by surprise and resign since i knew i was the pillar of the company because baba is lazy. He doesn't even knw much abt the operations as he is only interested in the profit.

One monday morning(resignation day), I jst went to his house at chevron from my place, dropped the news, gave genuine reasons(yes am that sharp with words and dnt mince word). Baba was speechless and confused and didn't knw what to say. I jst left him, went back to my house and slept off. I decided to take a week off, enjoy myself before I start planning on how to set up my own business.

Omo! See calls on my phone that day both from my dad, mom, sister, brothers. I jst didn't pick anybody's call. My mom came to my house to ask what happening.
I showed her my nonsense flat and told her to compare with that of my brother's duplex in chevron plus he was buying venza for a girl and dashing money to other girls. Also he goes to quilox almost every friday to show off while i continue to live in a stupid flat in surulere.

To cut long story short, baba called family meeting and decided to hand the company's finance to me. Any money coming in or going out must pass through me. And that's how i started seeing side income and other benefits. That doesn't mean I won't start my own business soon.
ahahahahaha grin grin

Baba wayray grin
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by chinchonglee(m): 6:15pm On Sep 29, 2021
OlawaleBammie:
ahahahahaha grin grin

Baba wayray grin
Lol.. naso my brother..
My annoyance was that i was working in a very wonderful company that pays me well and gives me all my benefits before the stupid senior brother called me to join him let's make a company.

Company started, he was now bringing in girls that doesn't even know how to work because they are fine and endowed.

My former boss still calls me to his office to help him tidy some complications. That man was willing to do things for me but i said it was better to work for my own blood. My own blood turned out to be an idiot.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by OlawaleBammie: 6:18pm On Sep 29, 2021
chinchonglee:

Lol.. naso my brother..
My annoyance was that i was working in a very wonderful company that pays me well and gives me all my benefits before the stupid senior brother called me to join him let's make a company.

Company started, he was now bringing in girls that doesn't even know how to work because they are fine and endowed
same thin my oga wanted to start sometimes ago, i didn't say shit until he was cautioned by his oga.


Even me now, a dey look for a business to start as side hustle before one oga render me useless
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by aniblue(m): 6:19pm On Sep 29, 2021
Law of magnetism....
If you know it, then you have the answer
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by generalwo(m): 6:24pm On Sep 29, 2021
Because everyone wants to be the alpha dog....
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by EmeraldHash(m): 6:36pm On Sep 29, 2021
pansophist:

I had an nl account that I deleted, I assisted hundreds of people move abroad as students, I met many in Europe, mostly guys, and a few ladies, and I'm glad for that. I'm saying all these because it seems like people do not know men that are helping, but we just don't talk or blow our trumpet. So no, men do help men, we just no de loud am
I was reading the comment but along the line, I was compelled to check the moniker and I discover it was my mentor
You have helped me not in kinds or cash but via your words, they are full of wisdom and knowledge so much that I just have to follow you.
Thank you for working on yourself and being a blessing

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by efficiencie(m): 6:46pm On Sep 29, 2021
BMathew:
Men Helping Men to become a Better Men.
Please, People with deeper understanding should kindly review this with me.
A lot have been going through my mind as touching the way men lives their life; (I just said their lives, meaning left with Individual's decision).
I'm laying my emphasis on "Why men are not helping men to become a better men"? Listening to what alot of men out there had done for our other gender compare to their reactions towards thier fellow men then we can bold say the hardship we have now is caused by men(cus focus is wrongly placed).

I am not saying you shouldn't help other gender but let's see this together; If the assistance you've ever render to a lady is being compared to what you've ever done to your male friend (positively), can we rate it?

Note, I'm not trying to belittle any gender nor gender biased.

I'm just thinking out loud, if we can help our fellow brother the way we "mumu" over these ladies trust me by now most of our men would have been a better person achieving purpose.

My female friend posted something on her WhatsApp status yesterday stating that, You see Abuja ladies with iPhone12, designer shoes and bag with the salary of 35,000naira per month, is with the same salary? "what about that"?

"Another guy told me how his boss built a house for a lady he slept with once"

A man can swear Heaven on Earth that he had no dime on him if his fellow brother seek for assistance but they tend to show off, spend without even expecting anything in return for ladies.


Without vain repetition, When will men start Helping Men to become a better men?






It is important to stop say "men do this...men do that...", it is more accurate to say: "some men do this...or some men do that". Two, you are not the judge of how anyone will spend his money or decides to offer help. Men, like women, all have perspectives and it governs how they make decisions and there are some who are not even aware or take cognizance of the ratio of men they have helped to the women they have helped...
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by pansophist(m): 7:06pm On Sep 29, 2021
EmeraldHash:

I was reading the comment but along the line, I was compelled to check the moniker and I discover it was my mentor
You have helped me not in kinds or cash but via your words, they are full of wisdom and knowledge so much that I just have to follow you.
Thank you for working on yourself and being a blessing

Thanks man. God bless you. I appreciate.

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by lookyzy: 7:38pm On Sep 29, 2021
neyoohhh:
If you guys want to be disciplined and start helping each other.

Start with semen retention and gymning. This will help with focus and discipline.

Then book's on self development, finance and ethics.

Then build communities of men who are genuinely interested in developing a healthy & prosperous society where tech is the religion and ethics the faith.


Create credit and finance communities for men with the sole purpose of creating wealth & job's, by providing solutions to complex problems.

NB.
All these sex obsessed,drug addicts, lazy fast money type's don't deserve help . They deserve to rot in hell
powerful post.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Originalsly: 7:57pm On Sep 29, 2021
qtguru:


Or just help anyone regardless of gender. I like to help guys more before women because a solid guy knows he owes a favour, that is with sensible friends o so it also extends to sensible lady friends. Except we understand as men that women naturally don't return favours like men unless they hold you in admiration.


Hmmm..... so when you help someone that person owes you a favour? That's not helping bro ... you may as well end the transaction right there by stating your fee. A favour has no owing nor strings attached. So why help a solid guy and not a solid woman?

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Originalsly: 7:59pm On Sep 29, 2021
Meedon:


SIMP!!!



SUSPECT!!!
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by suffering: 8:00pm On Sep 29, 2021
Men help other men. Buy their motivational books and you may learn a thing or two. Why should someone tender you help for free? You honestly have nothing to offer but words of thanks and a gesture maybe once yearly at best. At least a man can pour all his physical and mental frustration into a woman's 'canal.' That 'sweet release' is something the white man is yet to sell in bottles. I swear, when such happens, men will abandon women totally unless when copulating for procreation.

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by qtguru(m): 8:06pm On Sep 29, 2021
Originalsly:


Hmmm..... so when you help someone that person owes you a favour? That's not helping bro ... you may as well end the transaction right there by stating your fee. A favour has no owing nor strings attached. So why help a solid guy and not a solid woman?

You see it as owe favour, but I see it as appreciation. Anybody who comes through for me, I always come through for them, most men understand this concept, as for the women, I tend to help less as there's another guy who can help. You need people who can come through for you in one way or the other, it could be informing me of a good deal or referral. Even in Prison and Street life it's nothing new

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Originalsly: 8:23pm On Sep 29, 2021
qtguru:


You see it as owe favour, but I see it as appreciation. Anybody who comes through for me, I always come through for them, most men understand this concept, as for the women, I tend to help less as there's another guy who can help. You need people who can come through for you in one way or the other, it could be informing me of a good deal or referral. Even in Prison and Street life it's nothing new


No doubt... that's what friends do .... come through for you in times of need. But with your way.... you will never help a stranger.... man or woman... because most likely you will never see him/her again to receive a favour in return. Does that sound cool to you?

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by jeph19(m): 8:28pm On Sep 29, 2021
From Nursery school, you've always been programmed to be better than your fellow guy, and you've been made to see the world as a competitive place.

Secondly, some men would want to always flex their ego before their friends, hence he'd want to be above financially so he'd earn their respect..

Thirdly, some of them have tried helping their fellow men in the past, and it came back as s deep stab at the back, or as an unreasonable vendetta and ungratefulness...
Number 3 happened to my Dad who's cousin absconded with his last 15mil; that period was hell for my old man...my mum had to keep the house "head above water" from garri sales.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by qtguru(m): 8:36pm On Sep 29, 2021
Originalsly:


No doubt... that's what friends do .... come through for you in times of need. But with your way.... you will never help a stranger.... man or woman... because most likely you will never see him/her again to receive a favour in return. Does that sound cool to you?

As long as it doesn't exceed my quota for helping strangers. I don't run a charity business

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Originalsly: 8:45pm On Sep 29, 2021
qtguru:


As long as it doesn't exceed my quota for helping strangers. I don't run a charity business


Lol... you have a quota on favours? ... just curious.... daily quota? ... weekly quota? ... how many per day max? Or is favour only about money? I may be missing something.

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by qtguru(m): 8:55pm On Sep 29, 2021
Originalsly:


Lol... you have a quota on favours? ... just curious.... daily quota? ... weekly quota? ... how many per day max? Or is favour only about money? I may be missing something.

it depends if I have enough, I am not the type to bring up stuff, but I believe I have sent alot of money to NL people to the point of buying laptop for someone, and helping with fees. But it seems you are a pure altruist

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Fidelismaria: 9:06pm On Sep 29, 2021
chinchonglee:
My own worst pass everybody own..

I work for/with my brother in a start up company but the profit coming in from the start up is huge that you'd think the company has been existing for years.

This dude can't let me make side income from the company.. he also handed all the finance of the company to a lady he was shagging while i do all of the mental and physical work. I didnt complain tho. He was busy buying venza for the girl and dashing all other girls money, i was jst looking at him.

I managed to raise my own capital and decided to take him by surprise and resign since i knew i was the pillar of the company because baba is lazy. He doesn't even knw much abt the operations as he is only interested in the profit.

One monday morning(resignation day), I jst went to his house at chevron from my place, dropped the news, gave genuine reasons(yes am that sharp with words and dnt mince word). Baba was speechless and confused and didn't knw what to say. I jst left him, went back to my house and slept off. I decided to take a week off, enjoy myself before I start planning on how to set up my own business.

Omo! See calls on my phone that day both from my dad, mom, sister, brothers. I jst didn't pick anybody's call. My mom came to my house to ask what happening.
I showed her my nonsense flat and told her to compare with that of my brother's duplex in chevron plus he was buying venza for a girl and dashing money to other girls. Also he goes to quilox almost every friday to show off while i continue to live in a stupid flat in surulere.

To cut long story short, baba called family meeting and decided to hand the company's finance to me. Any money coming in or going out must pass through me. And that's how i started seeing side income and other benefits. That doesn't mean I won't start my own business soon.

Well-done Sir.
Abeg, space dey? I dey find employment ooo
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Gfskw: 9:50pm On Sep 29, 2021
Are women doing same
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by BabaIbo: 10:07pm On Sep 29, 2021
qtguru:


True but I find that the igbos from own observation have a sense of business focus regardless of illiteracy not saying it doesn't exist in other tribes, but more igbos are more inclined to move towards Business and Entrepreneurship.

https://qz.com/africa/2002636/what-silicon-valley-could-learn-from-nigerias-igbo-entrepreneurs/

Yes they are, they are distinguished and on another level in that aspect.

I'm only referring to the helping others i.e what the topic is all about.

BTW, abum ezigbote nwa afor Igbo.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by chinchonglee(m): 10:19pm On Sep 29, 2021
Fidelismaria:


Well-done Sir.
Abeg, space dey? I dey find employment ooo
It's not by finding employment.
What did u study?
We have so many ineffective and inefficient staffs(mostly women) who knows nothing abt the job. They got there by connection they have with my brother
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Stankovic22: 10:21pm On Sep 29, 2021
I am doing well today because of my friend.

This is a guy I met during NYSC. Things was hard for him, we were so broke but I gave him my last 10k to sort some of his problems then.

During service he used to come to my house to sleep and eat.

After service, I got a teaching job of 50k a month while he was jobless, we were always in touch with each other cos after service we relocated back to Lagos (though different regions). He wanted to process visa to Canada and I was willing to drop my last savings if it will work but it didn't.

Luckily he got a job and through the job became his own boss and started doing well.

My teaching job was frustrating and he told me to come join him in his business, I resigned and this my friend taught me everything about the business and also introduced me to his contacts...

Today we are comfortable... With a car and family. We are living our dream.

I still owe him everything and I am grateful for the heart that he has.

So brother not all friends are like that. Some are more than brothers.

My friend is a testimony. NYSC in 2016 and we clicked. On his wedding I was his best man

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Originalsly: 10:25pm On Sep 29, 2021
qtguru:


it depends if I have enough, I am not the type to bring up stuff, but I believe I have sent alot of money to NL people to the point of buying laptop for someone, and helping with fees. But it seems you are a pure altruist


You should never mention you gave out a lot of money to Nairalanders .... and a lap top? You are finished ... they will bury you with sad stories and desperate cries for help! It is always a good thing to give.... to those who are in need...... but you need to set your limit.... and take time to discern the wolves in sheep's clothing. Again.... bottom line... never give with expectations of returns.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by qtguru(m): 10:29pm On Sep 29, 2021
Originalsly:


You should never mention you gave out a lot of money to Nairalanders .... and a lap top? You are finished ... they will bury you with sad stories and desperate cries for help! It is always a good thing to give.... to those who are in need...... but you need to set your limit.... and take time to discern the wolves in sheep's clothing. Again.... bottom line... never give with expectations of returns.


I disagree , the person I bought a laptop for, is now studying video recording and doing something for himself , it's easy to know a serious person when one is serious himself.

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Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Nobody: 10:33pm On Sep 29, 2021
People are killing each other, you are talking of helping, lol.
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Caleycashh: 10:35pm On Sep 29, 2021
PediakAuthor:
Because most of them can't see what the future holds... it sucks... grin
The future does not hold shit!, it's all a scam ploy and manipulations!... No one will help you like you'll help yourself and anyone helping you has intentions to get something back from you even your parents!... Finally no one fuckin cares!
Re: Why Are Men Not Helping Each Other To Become Better Men? by Originalsly: 11:01pm On Sep 29, 2021
qtguru:


I disagree , the person I bought a laptop for, is now studying video recording and doing something for himself , it's easy to know a serious person when one is serious himself.


Disagree?... with what? Glad to know you're able to spot the vultures!

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