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FashionCookie:
Lol...I swear down. Trust Nigerians na...pple were like "oga them be thief make sure say u collect your money o."
And d guy dey galala...no b small o. 1.5m for this Buhari era...

chatinent:
Lol. You need premium apps to know how to use this bro without requesting credit card details. Lol. It's fraud and I will not unveil.

WarAgainstBegga:
Which app is this please?

wisdomkid:
Odogwu Master.

WarAgainstBegga:
Help out.....I want to just know, I legit into anything negative.

Just want to be woke in case I see it in my guys phone

ojesymsym:
Today, the 30th of September, 2021.

I saw a missed call on my phone from 08145677895, not sure who it was, I decided to call back. When I called, the person at the other end asked who it was, and I replied that I got a missed call from the number and was calling back. He requested to know what my number ends with, and I told him, after which he called out my full name which I confirmed to be correct and he said he would call me back.

He called back and said he was calling from BVN centre, I just knew the fraud masters were at work, but usually I always play along. So, I was very polite as he was.

He called out my BVN, it was correct, he called out my full name. He then said that the date of birth on my BVN was conflicting with that on my account and that he was calling to rectify it. He called out two numbers, one of them was correct and the other was wrong by one year, he asked which one was the correct one. I choose the wrong one to be the correct one. He said, ok he will effect the change.

He then asked what banks do I have accounts so that he can also make the changes there, I told him I had many accounts, he wanted to know which one I used presently, I then proceeded to give him 3 random banks that I do not have accounts with.

He further went ahead to tell me that as of now, all my accounts have been blocked which is why he wants to help me correct the error. I told him, I was grateful. He said he had done that but I need to activate my ATM. He then asked if I had my ATM card was with me, I said no, just one with me.

He said I should read out the expiring date, I gave him a random figure. He called it out for me to confirm, which I did. He then asked me to also read out the activation serial number just above the expiring date (that is the main ATM number), I was like this one don see mugu this morning. I just took out one of my expired ATM card and read out the number to him.

He then said there is another 3 digit activation number at the back of the card, I gave him a random number for that one. He then said the system has generated a new ATM pin for me which I should now be using when I go to the ATM machine. The new number was 8191, I told him okay, I like the number.
He went further to say, but if I want him to configure it to be the old number I can let him know so that he can change it (he wanted me to tell him my pin), I told him this one was fine. He devise another excuse to ask for the number, I decided to give him another random number. He repeated it many times for me to confirm, I have a good memory, each time the number was consistent.

Here was the final part, he said I would get an activation number in a few minutes that I should read it out to him. Not long after, I got a Quickteller activation number which I was supposed to read out to him. I read out the number but changed one digit. He once again repeated the number for me to confirm, on all occasions, I confirmed the number, I could imagine him smiling at the other end hoping to make whatever transfer he wanted to do, when the thing failed, he asked me to read it out again, I did but it was giving me same error.

I told him the bank of the ATM I read to him was Standard Chartered even though the ATM card was an old sterling bank account that had expired, but somehow he asked how come the bank was showing sterling bank, I just told him it was sterling. After the failed transaction, the guy ended the call. I assume he will be busy trying to see what he can do with all the fake info I gave him.

The whole call lasted 9 mins 27 secs
A few questions though,
1. HOw on earth did they get my BVN and know my full details including date of birth?
2. How did he know that the ATM card was from Sterling and not Standard chartered as I told him it was?

Anyone, this is the fraudsters number 08145677895

chatinent:
Lol.

Did they pay him?

chatinent:
POS operators can only know of sending fake alerts or not processing your sums but collecting your money, or multiplying the zeros.

The main deal is done by bankers!

Bank managers cannot be all innocent. Lol.

Bsc:
Why did u spend so much time to have conversation with a fraudster?
Lucky u it isn't the ones that use jazzz...

Ofadaman:
BVN is all over the place e.g.
Sold from NIBSS , Banks, Telecoms, Loan apps, fintechs e.t.c with your BVN anyone can get access to your basic information e.g. Date of birth, full name, phone details, address, biometric info and banks account number, but for them to access your funds that need your information on your card or OTP from your SIMs linked to your BVN.

Many fintechs , and payment gateway (even on gambling sites) can take your card info for payments, but need OTP pin. Once they get hold of your MasterCard details it doesn't really.matter the bank, most Nigerian banks take the confirmation to their secured page and that's how he knows the bank.

Be careful even in giving out an expired card, most as most banks instead of blocking out a card can simple extend the expiry date and you could end up in trouble.

FashionCookie:
I no even know o...bcus I left early. But as at when I left there, d guy was not ready to leave.

Depressed101:
to answer your question. You might have probably submitted those information unsuspectingly to all those loan forms shared on whatsapp..

ojesymsym:
Today, the 30th of September, 2021.

I saw a missed call on my phone from 08145677895, not sure who it was, I decided to call back. When I called, the person at the other end asked who it was, and I replied that I got a missed call from the number and was calling back. He requested to know what my number ends with, and I told him, after which he called out my full name which I confirmed to be correct and he said he would call me back.

He called back and said he was calling from BVN centre, I just knew the fraud masters were at work, but usually I always play along. So, I was very polite as he was.

He called out my BVN, it was correct, he called out my full name. He then said that the date of birth on my BVN was conflicting with that on my account and that he was calling to rectify it. He called out two numbers, one of them was correct and the other was wrong by one year, he asked which one was the correct one. I choose the wrong one to be the correct one. He said, ok he will effect the change.

He then asked what banks do I have accounts so that he can also make the changes there, I told him I had many accounts, he wanted to know which one I used presently, I then proceeded to give him 3 random banks that I do not have accounts with.

He further went ahead to tell me that as of now, all my accounts have been blocked which is why he wants to help me correct the error. I told him, I was grateful. He said he had done that but I need to activate my ATM. He then asked if I had my ATM card was with me, I said no, just one with me.

He said I should read out the expiring date, I gave him a random figure. He called it out for me to confirm, which I did. He then asked me to also read out the activation serial number just above the expiring date (that is the main ATM number), I was like this one don see mugu this morning. I just took out one of my expired ATM card and read out the number to him.

He then said there is another 3 digit activation number at the back of the card, I gave him a random number for that one. He then said the system has generated a new ATM pin for me which I should now be using when I go to the ATM machine. The new number was 8191, I told him okay, I like the number.
He went further to say, but if I want him to configure it to be the old number I can let him know so that he can change it (he wanted me to tell him my pin), I told him this one was fine. He devise another excuse to ask for the number, I decided to give him another random number. He repeated it many times for me to confirm, I have a good memory, each time the number was consistent.

Here was the final part, he said I would get an activation number in a few minutes that I should read it out to him. Not long after, I got a Quickteller activation number which I was supposed to read out to him. I read out the number but changed one digit. He once again repeated the number for me to confirm, on all occasions, I confirmed the number, I could imagine him smiling at the other end hoping to make whatever transfer he wanted to do, when the thing failed, he asked me to read it out again, I did but it was giving me same error.

I told him the bank of the ATM I read to him was Standard Chartered even though the ATM card was an old sterling bank account that had expired, but somehow he asked how come the bank was showing sterling bank, I just told him it was sterling. After the failed transaction, the guy ended the call. I assume he will be busy trying to see what he can do with all the fake info I gave him.

The whole call lasted 9 mins 27 secs
A few questions though,
1. HOw on earth did they get my BVN and know my full details including date of birth?
2. How did he know that the ATM card was from Sterling and not Standard chartered as I told him it was?

Anyone, this is the fraudsters number 08145677895

chatinent:
I am wondering how you got a Quickteller OTP if all you gave him were fake.

Ok ok, let's assume he processed it using your BVN.


Very easy.
It could be gotten via a phished site...or some bank officials sold it out. A liaison with a fraudulent banker can empty your accounts. Many fraudsters work with bankers. Lol. Even loan apps sell BVNs. In fact, any agency requiring your BVN sells it. I cross my heart. Lol.

I know of about three other ways to get a BVN without even going to the bank. Lol. So it is not new. Not new. So now imagine if it is in a wrong hands.

A lot of people who even have the BVN don't know how to use it hence they need your credit card details. Lol. Poor thing.


Let me simplify this for you.

[s]If you use online payments regularly, only entering your first four letters could tell if it's Visa, Mastercard, etc...

Using USSD too could unveil a bank name, and holder's name. (I am sure you know that).

On Bank Apps too, it is easy.

There is an app too that does that. It is in dark web and we shouldn't talk about it.




You have to be careful sha.

But that's an old format.

New pro fraudsters tweak your Quick Teller or Transfer accounts that it sends you a mail. When you log in, an OTP is sent to you almost immediately while you are in the app that you wouldn't even suspect it is from another user since you are also responding to the mails with the bank name..the OTP may come in SMS or notification bearing the name too (using bought SMS units)...and boom...your account balance is gone forever. But believe me, you can never track anyone who knows this method. It takes more than mere hacking. This is an expert touch...they'll end up shifting the log details to some other innocent soul..who will definitely be tracked. Many are languishing in prisons for this. Don't worry about this. In a hundred million, only one person fit sabi do this.

Some pro hackers who work with fraudsters also do hack into your balance directly, and shift logs to another vulnerable person! But it is rare to find these sorts! Why? Poor fraudsters cannot afford them. Lol...and that's what most fraudsters are finding. They want to remove the aza-man intermediary thing. Lol.

How do I know all these?

I was a darkweb geek during the days of Wapka.[/s]


Moving forward...

• you may need to use a two-way authentication on your accounts! It is very important. Both on your social media and Google accounts.

• Always view the links you click. I see many shared messages on WhatsApp ending with YouthEmpowerment using a URL Shortener urging people to share to their friends for a prize. Lol. Big scam.

• whenever a link claiming to represent sth sends a message, search on Google. It should have a Wikipedia page, go there and view their website link. If it is not the same, it is fraud.

• in Nigeria, only recognised education websites use the .edu.ng and government sites use the .gov.ng . If a site claiming to be of the government says otherwise, it's scam.

• if you ever get confused about a message being scam or not, just post it here on Nairaland and tag me, I will answer.

• be careful of apps you download away from Google Play or Appstore, some can steal your details. Download only recognised official apps on those stores. Not all apps are genuine there tho. Always read reviews (read the critical reviews.. because their team members must always join in posting positive reviews).

• When an unknown number calls you, end the call and run it on TrueCaller. TrueCaller will help you too. His name may shock you.

You are welcome.

chatinent:
I am wondering how you got a Quickteller OTP if all you gave him were fake.

Ok ok, let's assume he processed it using your BVN.


Very easy.
It could be gotten via a phished site...or some bank officials sold it out. A liaison with a fraudulent banker can empty your accounts. Many fraudsters work with bankers. Lol. Even loan apps sell BVNs. In fact, any agency requiring your BVN sells it. I cross my heart. Lol.

I know of about three other ways to get a BVN without even going to the bank. Lol. So it is not new. Not new. So now imagine if it is in a wrong hands.

A lot of people who even have the BVN don't know how to use it hence they need your credit card details. Lol. Poor thing.


Let me simplify this for you.

If you use online payments regularly, only entering your first four letters could tell if it's Visa, Mastercard, etc...

Using USSD too could unveil a bank name, and holder's name. (I am sure you know that).

On Bank Apps too, it is easy.

There is an app too that does that. It is in dark web and we shouldn't talk about it.




You have to be careful sha.

But that's an old format.

New pro fraudsters tweak your Quick Teller or Transfer accounts that it sends you a mail. When you log in, an OTP is sent to you almost immediately while you are in the app that you wouldn't even suspect it is from another user since you are also responding to the mails with the bank name..the OTP may come in SMS or notification bearing the name too (using bought SMS units)...and boom...your account balance is gone forever. But believe me, you can never track anyone who knows this method. It takes more than mere hacking. This is an expert touch...they'll end up shifting the log details to some other innocent soul..who will definitely be tracked. Many are languishing in prisons for this. Don't worry about this. In a hundred million, only one person fit sabi do this.

Some pro hackers who work with fraudsters also do hack into your balance directly, and shift logs to another vulnerable person! But it is rare to find these sorts! Why? Poor fraudsters cannot afford them. Lol...and that's what most fraudsters are finding. They want to remove the aza-man intermediary thing. Lol.

How do I know all these?

I was a darkweb geek during the days of Wapka.


Moving forward...

• you may need to use a two-way authentication on your accounts! It is very important. Both on your social media and Google accounts.

• Always view the links you click. I see many shared messages on WhatsApp ending with YouthEmpowerment using a URL Shortener urging people to share to their friends for a prize. Lol. Big scam.

• whenever a link claiming to represent sth sends a message, search on Google. It should have a Wikipedia page, go there and view their website link. If it is not the same, it is fraud.

• in Nigeria, only recognised education websites use the .edu.ng and government sites use the .gov.ng . If a site claiming to be of the government says otherwise, it's scam.

• if you ever get confused about a message being scam or not, just post it here on Nairaland and tag me, I will answer.

• be careful of apps you download away from Google Play or Appstore, some can steal your details. Download only recognised official apps on those stores. Not all apps are genuine there tho. Always read reviews (read the critical reviews.. because their team members must always join in posting positive reviews).

• When an unknown number calls you, end the call and run it on TrueCaller. TrueCaller will help you too. His name may shock you.

You are welcome.

chatinent:
They'll settle him.

Main offices wouldn't take it funny if a mere branch ruined its reputation.

Bsc:
Why did u spend so much time to have conversation with a fraudster?
Lucky u it isn't the ones that use jazzz...

chatinent:
I am wondering how you got a Quickteller OTP if all you gave him were fake.

Ok ok, let's assume he processed it using your BVN.


Very easy.
It could be gotten via a phished site...or some bank officials sold it out. A liaison with a fraudulent banker can empty your accounts. Many fraudsters work with bankers. Lol. Even loan apps sell BVNs. In fact, any agency requiring your BVN sells it. I cross my heart. Lol.

I know of about three other ways to get a BVN without even going to the bank. Lol. So it is not new. Not new. So now imagine if it is in a wrong hands.

A lot of people who even have the BVN don't know how to use it hence they need your credit card details. Lol. Poor thing.


Let me simplify this for you.

If you use online payments regularly, only entering your first four letters could tell if it's Visa, Mastercard, etc...

Using USSD too could unveil a bank name, and holder's name. (I am sure you know that).

On Bank Apps too, it is easy.

There is an app too that does that. It is in dark web and we shouldn't talk about it.




You have to be careful sha.

But that's an old format.

New pro fraudsters tweak your Quick Teller or Transfer accounts that it sends you a mail. When you log in, an OTP is sent to you almost immediately while you are in the app that you wouldn't even suspect it is from another user since you are also responding to the mails with the bank name..the OTP may come in SMS or notification bearing the name too (using bought SMS units)...and boom...your account balance is gone forever. But believe me, you can never track anyone who knows this method. It takes more than mere hacking. This is an expert touch...they'll end up shifting the log details to some other innocent soul..who will definitely be tracked. Many are languishing in prisons for this. Don't worry about this. In a hundred million, only one person fit sabi do this.

Some pro hackers who work with fraudsters also do hack into your balance directly, and shift logs to another vulnerable person! But it is rare to find these sorts! Why? Poor fraudsters cannot afford them. Lol...and that's what most fraudsters are finding. They want to remove the aza-man intermediary thing. Lol.

How do I know all these?

I was a darkweb geek during the days of Wapka.


Moving forward...

• you may need to use a two-way authentication on your accounts! It is very important. Both on your social media and Google accounts.

• Always view the links you click. I see many shared messages on WhatsApp ending with YouthEmpowerment using a URL Shortener urging people to share to their friends for a prize. Lol. Big scam.

• whenever a link claiming to represent sth sends a message, search on Google. It should have a Wikipedia page, go there and view their website link. If it is not the same, it is fraud.

• in Nigeria, only recognised education websites use the .edu.ng and government sites use the .gov.ng . If a site claiming to be of the government says otherwise, it's scam.

• if you ever get confused about a message being scam or not, just post it here on Nairaland and tag me, I will answer.

• be careful of apps you download away from Google Play or Appstore, some can steal your details. Download only recognised official apps on those stores. Not all apps are genuine there tho. Always read reviews (read the critical reviews.. because their team members must always join in posting positive reviews).

• When an unknown number calls you, end the call and run it on TrueCaller. TrueCaller will help you too. His name may shock you.

You are welcome.

Kenog4real:
For the ATM, every bank has it own unique code which is the first 4 digits on the Card. I got to know that when a scammer called asking me for my ATM numbers. I told him I use Access and was calling Gtbank card numbers for him but he kept on telling me this isn't an Access Bank card number immediately I call out the first 4 digits.

ojesymsym:
I doubt he got the detail from the bank, if he did, he would know at least one bank I use rather than trying to get that info from me.

chatinent:
I am wondering how you got a Quickteller OTP if all you gave him were fake.

Ok ok, let's assume he processed it using your BVN.


Very easy.
It could be gotten via a phished site...or some bank officials sold it out. A liaison with a fraudulent banker can empty your accounts. Many fraudsters work with bankers. Lol. Even loan apps sell BVNs. In fact, any agency requiring your BVN sells it. I cross my heart. Lol.

I know of about three other ways to get a BVN without even going to the bank. Lol. So it is not new. Not new. So now imagine if it is in a wrong hands.

A lot of people who even have the BVN don't know how to use it hence they need your credit card details. Lol. Poor thing.


Let me simplify this for you.

If you use online payments regularly, only entering your first four letters could tell if it's Visa, Mastercard, etc...

Using USSD too could unveil a bank name, and holder's name. (I am sure you know that).

On Bank Apps too, it is easy.

There is an app too that does that. It is in dark web and we shouldn't talk about it.




You have to be careful sha.

But that's an old format.

New pro fraudsters tweak your Quick Teller or Transfer accounts that it sends you a mail. When you log in, an OTP is sent to you almost immediately while you are in the app that you wouldn't even suspect it is from another user since you are also responding to the mails with the bank name..the OTP may come in SMS or notification bearing the name too (using bought SMS units)...and boom...your account balance is gone forever. But believe me, you can never track anyone who knows this method. It takes more than mere hacking. This is an expert touch...they'll end up shifting the log details to some other innocent soul..who will definitely be tracked. Many are languishing in prisons for this. Don't worry about this. In a hundred million, only one person fit sabi do this.

Some pro hackers who work with fraudsters also do hack into your balance directly, and shift logs to another vulnerable person! But it is rare to find these sorts! Why? Poor fraudsters cannot afford them. Lol...and that's what most fraudsters are finding. They want to remove the aza-man intermediary thing. Lol.

How do I know all these?

I was a darkweb geek during the days of Wapka.


Moving forward...

• you may need to use a two-way authentication on your accounts! It is very important. Both on your social media and Google accounts.

• Always view the links you click. I see many shared messages on WhatsApp ending with YouthEmpowerment using a URL Shortener urging people to share to their friends for a prize. Lol. Big scam.

• whenever a link claiming to represent sth sends a message, search on Google. It should have a Wikipedia page, go there and view their website link. If it is not the same, it is fraud.

• in Nigeria, only recognised education websites use the .edu.ng and government sites use the .gov.ng . If a site claiming to be of the government says otherwise, it's scam.

• if you ever get confused about a message being scam or not, just post it here on Nairaland and tag me, I will answer.

• be careful of apps you download away from Google Play or Appstore, some can steal your details. Download only recognised official apps on those stores. Not all apps are genuine there tho. Always read reviews (read the critical reviews.. because their team members must always join in posting positive reviews).

• When an unknown number calls you, end the call and run it on TrueCaller. TrueCaller will help you too. His name may shock you.

You are welcome.

smasher1:
You are right, but over 50% of Nigerians are gullible. That's why a fraudster calls them with the above format, send Otp and the customer who have been told by bank staff that he would be called; likely goes ahead to read out this secret number to unknown person on the phone.

FashionCookie:
They were insisting the money was collected at the POS but d guy insisted that the bank had a hand on it.
The thing is, he tried to use the ATM over thecweekend or so when the machine "swallowed" his card. Bfore he went back for it, the guy in charge of the machine gave him another card(not his) and he had alreasy been debited...
So the guy said the bank was responsible...but they insisted it was his card.
Why will u give out another person's card without any means of identification?

chatinent:
He should sue them immediately!

SirMichael1:
Nonsense!!!

chatinent:
I am wondering how you got a Quickteller OTP if all you gave him were fake.

Ok ok, let's assume he processed it using your BVN.


Very easy.
It could be gotten via a phished site...or some bank officials sold it out. A liaison with a fraudulent banker can empty your accounts. Many fraudsters work with bankers. Lol. Even loan apps sell BVNs. In fact, any agency requiring your BVN sells it. I cross my heart. Lol.

I know of about three other ways to get a BVN without even going to the bank. Lol. So it is not new. Not new. So now imagine if it is in a wrong hands.

A lot of people who even have the BVN don't know how to use it hence they need your credit card details. Lol. Poor thing.


Let me simplify this for you.

If you use online payments regularly, only entering your first four letters could tell if it's Visa, Mastercard, etc...

Using USSD too could unveil a bank name, and holder's name. (I am sure you know that).

On Bank Apps too, it is easy.

There is an app too that does that. It is in dark web and we shouldn't talk about it.




You have to be careful sha.

But that's an old format.

New pro fraudsters tweak your Quick Teller or Transfer accounts that it sends you a mail. When you log in, an OTP is sent to you almost immediately while you are in the app that you wouldn't even suspect it is from another user since you are also responding to the mails with the bank name..the OTP may come in SMS or notification bearing the name too (using bought SMS units)...and boom...your account balance is gone forever. But believe me, you can never track anyone who knows this method. It takes more than mere hacking. This is an expert touch...they'll end up shifting the log details to some other innocent soul..who will definitely be tracked. Many are languishing in prisons for this. Don't worry about this. In a hundred million, only one person fit sabi do this.

Some pro hackers who work with fraudsters also do hack into your balance directly, and shift logs to another vulnerable person! But it is rare to find these sorts! Why? Poor fraudsters cannot afford them. Lol...and that's what most fraudsters are finding. They want to remove the aza-man intermediary thing. Lol.

How do I know all these?

I was a darkweb geek during the days of Wapka.


Moving forward...

• you may need to use a two-way authentication on your accounts! It is very important. Both on your social media and Google accounts.

• Always view the links you click. I see many shared messages on WhatsApp ending with YouthEmpowerment using a URL Shortener urging people to share to their friends for a prize. Lol. Big scam.

• whenever a link claiming to represent sth sends a message, search on Google. It should have a Wikipedia page, go there and view their website link. If it is not the same, it is fraud.

• in Nigeria, only recognised education websites use the .edu.ng and government sites use the .gov.ng . If a site claiming to be of the government says otherwise, it's scam.

• if you ever get confused about a message being scam or not, just post it here on Nairaland and tag me, I will answer.

• be careful of apps you download away from Google Play or Appstore, some can steal your details. Download only recognised official apps on those stores. Not all apps are genuine there tho. Always read reviews (read the critical reviews.. because their team members must always join in posting positive reviews).

• When an unknown number calls you, end the call and run it on TrueCaller. TrueCaller will help you too. His name may shock you.

You are welcome.