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Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Evangelynn(f): 10:07pm On Oct 02, 2021
Joshthefirst:
Did you open my link? From that research, your stance is actually incredibly unpopular among scientists, even among very pro-choice biologists.

But I'm only asking why you don't believe it starts at conception to understand your reasoning. Do you think it doesn't start at conception because that would make abortion ending human life and that feels uncomfortable for you?
I didn't open the link,I have read many for and against arguments on the issue,I can even share another link to disprove otherwise,you claim it starts from conception others can concede it starts at a particular week when it gets to a particular stage.

I don't believe it starts from conception but from a certain stage I am pro-choice and I see abortion as a social and economic issue not a moral/religious one so even if it starts from conception according to you I still support abortions where necessary if the parents don't want it,it doesn't change my view as I don't see it as murder
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nexton2468: 10:08pm On Oct 02, 2021
lexy2014:
Have u heard of kpanla? Woman straight like ruler u say na fine
Oga chillax she fine....the one wey dey middle dope
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nexton2468: 10:11pm On Oct 02, 2021
lexy2014:
Have u heard of kpanla? Woman straight like ruler u say na fine
Bro lets be specific here in your mind you no say that babe for centre na angel just talk truth nobody go hold you...
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:13pm On Oct 02, 2021
Joshthefirst:
Did you open my link? From that research, your stance is actually incredibly unpopular among scientists, even among very pro-choice biologists.

But I'm only asking why you don't believe it starts at conception to understand your reasoning. Do you think it doesn't start at conception because that would make abortion ending human life and that feels uncomfortable for you?
Socio-economically abortion has not solved the crisis of single motherhood who had the option contraception and legalized abortion, yet it has become an epidemic burden on the government increasing the welfare program for single mothers hence higher national debt for it's citizens, remember it was during these era when conservative family values were demonized as hypocritical yet statistically once women were no longer shamed for their sexuality and giving reproductive rights and choices, they chose to raise a generation of fatherless bastards,Evangelynn wants to look for an excuse to justify killing unborn babies for nothing
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Evangelynn(f): 10:17pm On Oct 02, 2021
GerogeI:
I think you are the person who is not in tune with reality. Nigeria is a third world country where living is difficult, sex is used as trade not even entertainment
Okay,how does this argument help you move back into reality?.
This debate is happening in first world countries where teenagers offer bouncers quickies in bathrooms just to gain entrance to clubs where they are not allowed to be. Sex is treated as entertainment in both US and UK
Let's say this is absolutely true,are there any statistics to prove that abortion is only or mostly carried out by this age group and that women happily do abortions,why limit it to teenagers and unmarried folks even those that are married have abortions where it is legal.
Nothing wrong with this as it's your choice to dabble into ordering a baby, just that if you know you do not want the baby arriving, better use condom, not force everyone to legalise murder in the name of abortions
Contraceptives fail and statistics after statistics have shown that countries where abortion is legal the abortion rate is low and healthcare is prioritised hence why many women and even men have access to family planning methods,it is actually countries like Nigeria that don't value health care, family planning etc that have high risk of unwanted pregnancies hence back alley abortions are high, abortion isn't murder and even if you see it as such nobody is forcing you to have it it should be a choice and option for those who need it especially when the same government making it illegal is lacking and failing their people and not being responsible enough to do their job for the masses.


As for girls having babies they can not take care off. Please take them to your parents, that is what is provided for in most African cultures, at least in Igbo culture, your father can raise your child as his.
What happened to the boys, can't you also hold boys accountable since you fail in mentioning the boys don't put unnecessary burden on the girls and their parents,lol this is 2021 almost 2022 not every parent welcomes that idea and I will not allow that,a parent after raising their children shouldn't be tasked with raising their grandchildren let their children do it themselves the time the parents are supposed to enjoy their old age and be taken care of you want to burden them with the duty of raising grandchildren too,what if those grandparents are poor and suffered to raise their children?you wan add grandchildren join, your points are really not in tune with reality at all,I will not in my rights senses burden my parents with my children I never did that,neither will my own children do that to me.
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by k2money(m): 10:17pm On Oct 02, 2021
[quote author=VenExchange post=106365452]Say no to abortion. One girl just died after abortion ( 18) years ( 6 months belle[/quuote]
You funny
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:21pm On Oct 02, 2021
Evangelynn:
Okay,how does this argument help you move back into reality?. Let's say this is absolutely true,are there any statistics to prove that abortion is only or mostly carried out by this age group and that women happily do abortions,why limit it to teenagers and unmarried folks even those that are married have abortions where it is legal. Contraceptives fail and statistics after statistics have shown that countries where abortion is legal the abortion rate is low and healthcare is prioritised hence why many women and even men have access to family planning methods,it is actually countries like Nigeria that don't value health care, family planning etc that have high risk of unwanted pregnancies hence back alley abortions are high, abortion isn't murder and even if you see it as such nobody is forcing you to have it it should be a choice and option for those who need it especially when the same government making it illegal is lacking and failing their people and not being responsible enough to do their job for the masses.


As for girls having babies they can not take care off. Please take them to your parents, that is what is provided for in most African cultures, at least in Igbo culture, your father can raise your child as his.
What happened to the boys, can't you also hold boys accountable since you fail in mentioning the boys don't put unnecessary burden on the girls and their parents,lol this is 2021 almost 2022 not every parent welcomes that idea and I will not allow that,a parent after raising their children shouldn't be tasked with raising their grandchildren let their children do it themselves the time the parents are supposed to enjoy their old age and be taken care of you want to burden them with the duty of raising grandchildren too,what if those grandparents are poor and suffered to raise theirs? your points are really not in tune with reality at all,I will not in my rights senses burden my parents with my children I never did that neither will my own children do that to me.
Single motherhood rates in advanced western Societies with all the reproductive Rights and choices even an epidemic has destroyed every single abortion arguments, statistically it skyrocketed with Abortion and it's now an epidemic
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Evangelynn(f): 10:22pm On Oct 02, 2021
JESHAL:
Single motherhood rates in advanced western Societies with all the reproductive Rights and choices even an epidemic has destroyed every single abortion arguments, statistically it skyrocketed with Abortion and it's now an epidemic
Boy haven't you gotten the memo yet that I don't want to read your comments or talk to you? undecided try to stop quoting me it will not change my mind or make me reason with you
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:23pm On Oct 02, 2021
[quote author=k2money post=106386605][/quote]The issue in decline in abortion is actually declining birthrate but Evangelynn wants to give a very a very sophistic plausible narrative that legal Abortion drops Abortion rates, a big fallacious argument not backed by sound empirical fact
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:25pm On Oct 02, 2021
Evangelynn:
Boy haven't you gotten the memo yet that I don't want to read your comments or talk to you? undecided try to stop quoting me it will not change my mind or make me reason with you
I will counter your sophistic plausible narrative and Rationalizations on Abortion with sound empirical evidence so you won't mislead anyone, people must get their facts right, I don't give a fucck about you or your response , I'm focused on the active readers on the thread
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 10:29pm On Oct 02, 2021
Evangelynn:
Okay,how does this argument help you move back into reality?. Let's say this is absolutely true,are there any statistics to prove that abortion is only or mostly carried out by this age group and that women happily do abortions,why limit it to teenagers and unmarried folks even those that are married have abortions where it is legal. Contraceptives fail and statistics after statistics have shown that countries where abortion is legal the abortion rate is low and healthcare is prioritised hence why many women and even men have access to family planning methods,it is actually countries like Nigeria that don't value health care, family planning etc that have high risk of unwanted pregnancies hence back alley abortions are high, abortion isn't murder and even if you see it as such nobody is forcing you to have it it should be a choice and option for those who need it especially when the same government making it illegal is lacking and failing their people and not being responsible enough to do their job for the masses.



What happened to the boys, can't you also hold boys accountable since you fail in mentioning the boys don't put unnecessary burden on the girls and their parents,lol this is 2021 almost 2022 not every parent welcomes that idea and I will not allow that,a parent after raising their children shouldn't be tasked with raising their grandchildren let their children do it themselves the time the parents are supposed to enjoy their old age and be taken care of you want to burden them with the duty of raising grandchildren too,what if those grandparents are poor and suffered to raise their children?you wan add grandchildren join, your points are really not in tune with reality at all,I will not in my rights senses burden my parents with my children I never did that,neither will my own children do that to me.
GerogeI,Evangelynn won't tell you women have more than 20 birth control options while men are limited to just two, condoms and vasectomy, she wants the burden of sexual responsiblity to be on a man even with his limited options, she won't tell you that women are the ones that control access to sex and reproduction, no matter how Hot a guy is, once the girl refuse it won't happen, remember it's her body that will bear the responsibility of pregnancy not the boy, is it not reasonable to instill discipline in the girl child
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Joshthefirst(m): 10:36pm On Oct 02, 2021
Evangelynn:
I didn't open the link,I have read many for and against arguments on the issue,I can even share another link to disprove otherwise,you claim it starts from conception others can concede it starts at a particular week when it gets to a particular stage.

I don't believe it starts from conception but from a certain stage I am pro-choice and I see abortion as a social and economic issue not a moral/religious one so even if it starts from conception according to you I still support abortions where necessary if the parents don't want it,it doesn't change my view as I don't see it as murder
Hmmm. So you believe even if human life starts at conception parents can still kill their children and it won't be murder. What if the child is outside the womb? Can parents still kill it if they don't want it?
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Detuner:
FutureIsFemale:
I don't support abortion but if I find out that the man is not willing to take up the responsibility, I would abort.

Better to abort than to bring irresponsible souls to the world.

Cases of robbery, raping and other social vices done are done by children whose dad rejected their pregnancy.
You feminazis are something else grin
Who is the irresponsible soul? Is it the irresponsible man you go open your legs wide for to enter, or the yet unborn soul who never had a say of such immoral and unsensible behaviorhuh

A law that stipulates one must face the consequences of their irresponsible action is not an unjust law. So the greater responsibility is on you to start doing the needful before opening that conji.
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by UncleJudax(m): 10:57pm On Oct 02, 2021
CUMIN:
Religious nutss always want to control other people decision. Only women should decide what they should do with their body.

So much for freedom in America.
who is a woman? men also get pregnant. grin
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Evangelynn(f): 11:02pm On Oct 02, 2021
Joshthefirst:
Hmmm. So you believe even if human life starts at conception parents can still kill their children and it won't be murder. What if the child is outside the womb? Can parents still kill it if they don't want it?
Abortion isn't murder and I cannot see it as such especially when it is legal in those countries it isn't categorised as murder because it just doesn't have the ingredients to be categorised or seen as such.Abortion isn't murder, when a child has been born outside the womb then it can be called murder or infanticide depending on what constitutes it as such,lastly your last statement makes no sense any parent that doesn't want a child doesn't give birth to it where abortion is legal hence why the law is there once the child has been born it has rights and in that case the law of the country is allowed to run its course.
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 11:07pm On Oct 02, 2021
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Evangelynn:
Abortion isn't murder and I cannot see it as such especially when it is legal in those countries it isn't categorised as murder because it just doesn't have the ingredients to be categorised or seen as such.Abortion isn't murder, when a child has been born outside the womb then it can be called murder or infanticide depending on what constitutes it as such,lastly your last statement makes no sense any parent that doesn't want a child doesn't give birth to it where abortion is legal hence why the law is there once the child has been born it has rights and in that case the law of the country is allowed to run its course.
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Rubbish
No legality can change immutable facts
An unborn baby is an infant
Abortion is infanticide, legalized abortion is infant genocide similar to racist eugenicist Nazis

Very sadistic nonsense huh
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Evangelynn(f): 11:09pm On Oct 02, 2021
JESHAL:
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Rubbish
No legality can change immutable facts
An unborn baby is an infant
Abortion is infanticide, legalized abortion is infant genocide

Very sadistic nonsense huh
You will cry from now till tomorrow abortions will keep happening and it cannot be categorised as murder where it is legal and abortion isn't infanticide that isn't the definition of infanticide. grin

Anyway go and adopt and care for children that need families instead of worrying about the unborn that doesn't need your help.
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 11:15pm On Oct 02, 2021
Evangelynn:
You will cry from now till tomorrow abortions will keep happening and it cannot be categorised as murder where it is legal and abortion isn't infanticide that isn't the definition of infanticide. grin

Anyway go and adopt and care for children that need families instead of worrying about the unborn that doesn't need your help.
When children out of wedlock drops in western Societies with legalized abortion and cheap contraceptive options upon their level of advancement, then I will take abortion arguments seriously

Till den you remain murderers and evil just like slave owners and eugenicist Nazis
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by luluosas(m): 11:24pm On Oct 02, 2021
How I wished Biden was aborted by his mother
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by godliman: 11:28pm On Oct 02, 2021
Mowoe:
People who do not support abortion(pro-lifers) only care about a baby before it's born; after you give birth they'll tell you to 'carry your cross,' and ask you why you'd give birth to a baby you cannot take care of.



SHIT HAPPENS!
And the pro Abortion people are only concern about the sweetness of sex, the consequence of sex which is pregnancy they don't want to carry. If you ask for rain don't complain about lightning and thunder they are rain's companion just the way pregnancy is sex's companion. If their own mama aborted them would they have any mouth to talk nonsense?
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by CXLVII: 11:39pm On Oct 02, 2021
Lovelies1:
Then condom usage should spring up or unwanted sex should be avoided instead of taking a life or risking your life in the process
Abortion is safe in civilized world. And as for condoms, it can only do little. Give the right to the mother. She bares the brunt alone.

And think of it, self medication will lead to deaths when banned, and abortion is over 90 percent safe
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Joshthefirst(m): 11:43pm On Oct 02, 2021
Evangelynn:
Abortion isn't murder and I cannot see it as such especially when it is legal in those countries it isn't categorised as murder because it just doesn't have the ingredients to be categorised or seen as such.Abortion isn't murder, when a child has been born outside the womb then it can be called murder or infanticide depending on what constitutes it as such,lastly your last statement makes no sense any parent that doesn't want a child doesn't give birth to it where abortion is legal hence why the law is there once the child has been born it has rights and in that case the law of the country is allowed to run its course.
Hmmm. So in your opinion aborting a child is acceptable because it's legal in some countries? What if it also became legal for parents to kill their kids up to 5 hours after birth and the rights of those children withdrawn? Would this still be acceptable to you? Since it would be the law of the country taking its course?
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Nobody: 11:52pm On Oct 02, 2021
CXLVII:
Abortion is safe in civilized world. And as for condoms, it can only do little. Give the right to the mother. She bares the brunt alone.

And think of it, self medication will lead to deaths when banned, and abortion is over 90 percent safe
Yet single motherhood is at record high upon all the cheap contraceptive options and legalized abortion in Western Societies knowing the risk on the child yet choosing to have it with all the options debunking the main premise of your arguments

Children out of wedlock is an epidemic in western societies, a major govt problem
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by lexy2014: 11:54pm On Oct 02, 2021
Nexton2468:
Oga chillax she fine....the one wey dey middle dope
Have u heard of kpanla? Woman straight like ruler u say na fine
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by lexy2014: 11:54pm On Oct 02, 2021
Nexton2468:
Bro lets be specific here in your mind you no say that babe for centre na angel just talk truth nobody go hold you...
Have u heard of kpanla? Woman straight like ruler u say na fine
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by CXLVII: 12:14am On Oct 03, 2021
JESHAL:
Yet single motherhood is at record high upon all the cheap contraceptive options and legalized abortion in Western Societies knowing the risk on the child yet choosing to have it with all the options debunking the main premise of your arguments

Children out of wedlock is an epidemic in western societies, a major govt problem
100/100
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by okwusdaddy: 1:12am On Oct 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
Whatever dude,the foetus is technically isn't human and some will argue that it gets to a certain stage before it can be termed as one.

Every human with their school of thought
If it isn't human why not just leave it alone. why go through the risk of having an abortion.
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Lovelies1: 1:15am On Oct 03, 2021
CXLVII:
Abortion is safe in civilized world. And as for condoms, it can only do little. Give the right to the mother. She bares the brunt alone.

And think of it, self medication will lead to deaths when banned, and abortion is over 90 percent safe
Okay
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by okwusdaddy: 1:19am On Oct 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
Argue with the scientists a foetus isn't fully human and cannot technically have any rights that is the argument depending on the school of thought you belong to,some also argue if the foetus has same rights as the person carrying it.
So a baby then isn't fully human.Only an adult is fully human
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by Vireani79: 1:25am On Oct 03, 2021
FutureIsFemale:
I don't support abortion but if I find out that the man is not willing to take up the responsibility, I would abort.

Better to abort than to bring irresponsible souls to the world.

Cases of robbery, raping and other social vices done are done by children whose dad rejected their pregnancy.
Wow and the ones who don't steal nor rape
Their dad didn't reject them

What a smart lady grin
Re: Biden Administration Urges Judge To Block Texas Abortion Law by CUMIN: 2:19am On Oct 03, 2021
UncleJudax:
who is a woman? men also get pregnant. grin
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