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chic2pimp:
I think Gruden knew His time was up when the first batch of email got leaked. I mean pick a struggle. You can't be Racist,Homophobic and Sexist all at the same time. Urban Meyer will probably send Him a box of France's finest champagne seeing that He has taken all of the heat of Him this week.

A40:
Finally!! Brooklyn grew a pair. I say they take it one step further and give Kyrie a hard deadline. Show up at so so date or forget about the season.

birdman:
Props to Nash for playing the right amount of politics so that he does not look like the bad guy should Kyrie return. I actually feel sorry for Kyrie - a fool that doesnt know hes a fool. Maybe a hard stance will wake this guy up. But I think a trade might be in order. Trade him far away, where all the funny influences cant reach him.

Fame is hard!

chic2pimp:
I think Gruden knew His time was up when the first batch of email got leaked. I mean pick a struggle. You can't be Racist,Homophobic and Sexist all at the same time. Urban Meyer will probably send Him a box of France's finest champagne seeing that He has taken all of the heat of Him this week.

Khanben:
Did you read the emails yourself because they are actually available free online or Did you read/watch some jumbled commentary from people who didn't also read the emails, but were just trying to push political narratives

Khanben:
Sorry but there were no 3 phase clinical trials done for polio. You can go online and check the timeline for polio vaccine development to confirm.

birdman:
I keep telling guys to stop looking at names. There is only one rock and LBJ is not a magician. I want to see what the Lakers look like defensively come season start. Defense is their hope, because offensively, I can name 3, 4 teams in the west alone far better than they are. As far as I am concerned, Lakers have a big 2. I dont consider WB and Melo as legit championship threats. They have to prove me wrong.

birdman:
Blast from the past - December 3, 2020:




I hope you are right about WB this time. He should not come and waste LeKings time

Android17:
As for Kyrie and the Nets, they should trade him. He is of no value to them not training and not playing so the argument about looking for adequate pieces to augment a trade is asinine. As for those celebrating this laughable and political move by the Nets, let me just remind you that this very same Kyrie was playing for the same team and with the same players just a few months ago whilst still unjabbed. This same player played with other Nets players who were presumably at the time unjabbed (he was not spreading a disease then). But somehow, just a few months after, that same player is persona non grata even though the other players have taken something that makes them protected against Kyrie (if he ever gets the disease). But this is about... science!!! The good thing is, tomorrow is pregnant.

steady986:
I don't know if I'm overreacting sha, as it's just preseason. But I don't like what I've seen so far. Now we already have 2 injuries going into the season.

Make I just give the team one month first. I'll make a definite conclusion after that.

KNIGHTBlaed:
Birdman abeg which time be draft for Naija time?

Android17:
I can give a robust response but I don't know what your point is (yet).

Android17:
I did.

steady986:
So all of a sudden Ben Simmons realised he's not James Harden . Make you continue your AWOL na, we no dey trade you. Nobody want you sef

Khanben:
You implied that the polio vaccine underwent more extensive trials than the covid vaccine. A look at both vaccine development process clearly shows that the covid vaccine had the same trial procedure, the only part jumped was animal trials which was justified by the sole purpose that the entire research used for the covid-19 vaccine was based on the research used on another Corona type virus the SARS-CoV.

Khanben:
So you read all 3k plus emails?

PS: one misinformation going around is that the emails were leaked which is absolutely not true. All the Emails were gotten using the freedom of information act and were stored in a government server since he was using his official email address.

Android17:
It did and you do not know what you are talking about. I have been hesitant to derail and I will thread the path of caution even as I engage this but after the highlighted portion, I just needed to say some things. First, I don't even know if you know what clinical trials are and why any trial should be allowed to progress beyond a particular phase, but in drug or vaccine development programs, you do not fail forward. That is, if you fail at a stage, you are not allowed to move into another stage except politics, not true science, is involved. Besides, what polio vaccine development program are you referring to? You do know that before Jonas Salk's began in 1955, at least 2 other programs were already halted from 1940 or so because of the failures experienced in the Chimpanzees? From the point that polio vaccine development begun to when it was finally approved how many years do you think it took? If you are bold, post it here and juxtapose it with the so-called vaccine for COVID19. Remind me of the point in the polio vaccine story where people had to pick between their jobs or taking it? Were the 1.8 million participants not volunteers? How many deaths were needed before even Jonas' program was halted? The virus isolation procedure that Enders used (which Jonas' also used and improved upon) have you found one for Sars-Cov2? Can any scientist swear on his credentials that this Sars-Cov2 has been extracted and purified? The flimsily fake one they tried to present, did it prove reproducible? Was it not tossed out as a fraud? Did you say animal trials were skipped? Not that all the humanized mice and rhesus monkeys died yet they proceeded hurriedly to the next step? How many years in between did all these happen? What studies have you seen that will adequately capture what the long term side effects of these jabs will do say in 5 years? 10 years? Could the "FDA" not answer these questions concerning the polio vaccine in 1980 before the WHO recommended worldwide vaccination against polio? Wait, they skipped animal trials based on Sars-Cov1 but kept lying ab initio that Sars-Cov2 was novel? Should the FDA also have approved skipping of animal trials for polio type 2 because of the success of polio 1 vaccine development program? If Sars-Cov2 is as similar to Sars-Cov1 as to supposedly justify skipping of animal trials, then why does the man who claimed human to human transmission was inevident for Sars-Cov2 still have a job when Sars-Cov1 was declared transmissible via human to human contact? Please, I just wanted to be a voice of reasoning for Kyrie. This thread is about basketball and I want to leave it that way.

Roland17:
This information is wrong is so many ways! So many ways….I beg you in the name of whatever you believe in. 1953 and 2020 are decades apart.. The process of medical research in 1953 and now are worlds apart, I can’t even begin to mention.AND YES, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN FAIL FORWARD, THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED RESEARCH / DEVELOPMENT. Let me also state that I may understand why you mean by failing forward because of the risks and consequences.

Baba, you started out very very well.. Infact, I was going to write you a kudos but you have gradually deviated into dangerous misinformation which has led to the killing of millions around me. I have seen families use misinformation like you have been threading as basis to not to get vaccinated until one of them comes down with the virus and is begging at the point of death. I have seen the hearts of children shattered with no reprieve but loads of financial debts incurred from the ignorance and arm chair knowledge.

If you follow my posts closely, it shouldn’t take you too long to discover that I am an ardent defender of Kyrie on this thread. Infact, in this case, I somewhat support him because like you said before deviating, it is his absolute right to refuse the vaccine, however, unlike what you are parading, he understands this is not a case of him being singled out. Let me also clarify that Kyrie has not openly condemned the vaccine, neither has he said he would not take the vaccine. KYRIE IS NOT ANTI VACCINE OR ANTI SCIENCE! LET US ALL BE GUIDED! His refusal is primarily in support of those who are being mandated and losing their source of living because of the mandates. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS FAITH…. HE BELIEVES HE FIGHTING A JUST CAUSE FOR OTHERS, NOT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN SCIENCE OR THR VACCINE.

I always encourage people to speaks with their doctors first before making any decision. You are more than welcome to speak with more than one but be very fair and open minded in all your conversations with your health professional. Please and please, make sure you are speaking with a true health professional and not reading google, Facebook, Instagram or E-books. Be careful about what you read and what you take as fact.

Is there politics in research? Absolutely! Without politics and money there will be no research. The first thing you learn is RESEARCH IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE! However, to the degree with you are parading a lot of these arm chair narrative is quite dangerous and false. I blame the government for some of these misinformation because they failed to be as open as possible when research started. The fear of vaccines have always existed, even before COVID-19, it is natural and the government and pharmaceutical companies and failed in addressing some on the legitimate concerns, not the ones built on conspiracy. People have a right to question what goes into their body, this not the 1950’s but they should also be careful with what information they take as fact when refusing.

I don’t intend to engage anyone in any uncivilized and name calling debates. I respect your opinion because I agree with how you started but curb the misinformation…This is a public health crisis and will leave it at that.

Khanben:
Simmons has the mentality that is probably the worst kind for a pro athlete. He does just enough to earn his checks and the competitor in him is possibly non existent. IMHO he only came back because the sixers kept the money and he actually experienced missing the checks first hand

Android17:
I said I won't say anything again but I just want to say Kyrie is now my favourite player in the NBA. I just read that the Nets offered him a chance to take regular tests before games and he refused - that is ballsy. I would not have refused that option. The man is fully committed to his convictions and I will always root for such a player whether I agree with him or not. I pray he goes to a team that will let him play and I will also be praying that he wins an MVP and finals MVP to go with another ring. He has heart and he deserves to succeed. As for other wise people who can smell a rat - 70K healthcare workers were fired in NYC for not taking a jab during a "pandemic". If anyone could think, they should find out how in one breath someone can complain about health institutions being overwhelmed (hoax) and in another breath, you fire the workforce that would have prevented you from being overwhelmed. Like someone on the Chelsea thread said, I laugh in new world order. Don't forget brethren, that these same healthcare workers were called heroes because they worked during the heat of the crisis last year when there was no jab available. Now they are selfish because they won't take a "free" jab. But this is about science!!!!

steady986:
So Kyrie has said he isn't anti-vax and needs time to process all that is going on. It went from I'm skipping the VAX due to religious reasons (whether rumours or true), to I'm a voice to the voiceless, to I'm not anti-vax and need time. I see what he's trying to do here. He's wants our sympathy but doesn't want to own up for all the noise he has caused in the past few weeks. Las las baba go collect the vaccine then come out and say there was no doubt in his mind he was going to take the vax, that he just needed time.