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Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by tctrills: 8:39pm On Oct 16, 2021
Empiree:
you were never flogged at school before or you never witnessed your fellow students flogged in secondary school?. Why is this strange to you guys?.

I still remembered how I was flogged at school in the 90s. If this is barbaric, how about daily bad activities in Nigeria where you throw tires on suspects' neck and burn them alive without due process?.

Until you guys are ready for rational criticisms and stop your religious bigotry, nothing will change in that country.
I don't get you, are you saying the beating is right or wrong? What exactly is your point?
And don't play the religious bigotry card because in Nigeria, Christians are about the most accomodating group.
But really are you supporting the evil actions of the teachers.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 8:53pm On Oct 16, 2021
tctrills:

I don't get you, are you saying the beating is right or wrong? What exactly is your point?
And don't play the religious bigotry card because in Nigeria, Christians are about the most accomodating group.
But really are you supporting the evil actions of the teachers.
what part of my post your brain can't comprehend?. @bold, really?. What's accommodation has to do with this?. The incident happened in Muslim school to Muslim students. What's that gotta do with "accommodating"

Okay, let's see how accommodating Christianity is in Nigeria. Read this extracts from their 1994 manifesto and tell me if this sounds like "accommodating".

Now maybe you misconstrued the definition of accommodating. By definition, accommodating means

"willing to fit in with someone's wishes or needs".


Now, by this definition, can you figure out who is not accommodating?

Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 8:55pm On Oct 16, 2021
effort1:


Are you saying Islamic schools are not following Quran?
now you just asked reasonable question. No, the school violated Quran unless you can quote Quran that says to beat unruly students like that.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by leye4u: 9:17pm On Oct 16, 2021
Righthussle:
I detest religion so much. From the "sow a seed" religion to the religion of "bombs", I hate them . These religions make people reason like goats.
Na big bang theory come mumu pass ooo.....they pride themselves in ignorance
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by KIDfurniture(m): 9:45pm On Oct 16, 2021
Awon werey.... first they brainwash u and sex u. If pastor try am sef I go chop em eyes. Muslim clerics re very mad oo. Them sabi brainwash through diabolical means



Wiseandtrue:
Of cause we know that it's not everyone who is as sick as that muric president, Akintola!

He's trying to turn schools to a breeding ground for terrorists!

What's the role of the Principal or the teachers

Say no! To any form of bullying!
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by tctrills: 9:57pm On Oct 16, 2021
Empiree:
what part of my post your brain can't comprehend?. @bold, really?. What's accommodation has to do with this?. The incident happened in Muslim school to Muslim students. What's that gotta do with "accommodating"

Okay, let's see how accommodating Christianity is in Nigeria. Read this extracts from their 1994 manifesto and tell me if this sounds like "accommodating".

Now maybe you misconstrued the definition of accommodating. By definition, accommodating means

"willing to fit in with someone's wishes or needs".


Now, by this definition, can you figure out who is not accommodating?
You are way to intelligent for me to understand you. I still don't know if you are commending or condemning the barbaric act.
If you feel what the teachers did is right then feel feel to say so instead of bringing up data on Oyedepo.
Again, I ask baba, what is your point.
What does Oyedepo have to do with the actions of those teachers beko
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by effort1: 10:16pm On Oct 16, 2021
Empiree:
now you just asked reasonable question. No, the school violated Quran unless you can quote Quran that says to beat unruly students like that.

You were trying to justify the beating here the other day. Now you are condemning it.

Why do you speak from both sides of the mouth like a ln ignoble immoral person?
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by faceland: 10:17pm On Oct 16, 2021
OgunLaakaye:


I will boldly say it again, flogging was westernized and renamed abuse. The cane works! Holy books mentioned the importance of cane. It’s a tool to reset a brain that wants to get lost. That took instills that fear of the penalty of doing wrong. Now look in this case, girls in a party….? In the 80 and 90’s this was like suicide, cos you automatically aware of the consequences. And now we advocating they should not be flogged for gross indiscipline.

What would you have done in such circumstances considering their age?
Many of us could not try it at the age of 18. We knew what was coming

If I go by your logic, 90% of kids born in the 80’s and 90’s were abused. Do you know those resetting slaps our mothers dished on us? Slaps that if you try today, they will say it’s abuse. New generation kids will die or forever go dumb if those slaps were replicated. When our mothers can use just eyes to control us, how much more hand.

That discipline made us excel also, cos we knew failure was not an option

keep beating your child until they are bloody if they wouldn't e damaged adults
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 10:20pm On Oct 16, 2021
tctrills:

You are way to intelligent for me to understand you. I still don't know if you are commending or condemning the barbaric act.
grin You will learn at all cost. You must receive intelligence but any means necessary.

If you feel what the teachers did is right then feel feel to say so instead of bringing up data on Oyedepo.
Again, I ask baba, what is your point.
What does Oyedepo have to do with the actions of those teachers beko
my point is, how does the Muslim school incident concern you if you think example of Oyedepo I cited was not necessary?.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 10:28pm On Oct 16, 2021
effort1:


You were trying to justify the beating here the other day. Now you are condemning it.

Why do you speak from both sides of the mouth like a ln ignoble immoral person?
Your problem is your level of intelligence is low. This is why you and others can not understand anything. For this reason, I insisted I had nothing to explain. Flogging as a form of universal punishment across the world. It is only regulated in some places than others. Your Bible prescribed flogging and death sentence for unruly child. So I don't understand why all of a sudden you all flocked social media and started vilifying Islam for the action of the Muslim school?.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by effort1: 10:51pm On Oct 16, 2021
Empiree:
Your problem is your level of intelligence is low. This is why you and others can not understand anything. For this reason, I insisted I had nothing to explain. Flogging as a form of universal punishment across the world. It is only regulated in some places than others. Your Bible prescribed flogging and death sentence for unruly child. So I don't understand why all of a sudden you all flocked social media and started vilifying Islam for the action of the Muslim school?.

Yeah, those were your ways of defending the flogging.

But now, you are suddenly condemning it.

You are a deceptive Soul, a liar and a man with double standard.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Dicedpineappple(f): 11:04pm On Oct 16, 2021
OgunLaakaye:
That flogging was well deserved.


Y’all just using religious sentiments to attack issue

It’s rooted in the African culture and such discipline has produced the best of brains and people.

Why you can easily use manners and etiquettes to distinguish between people born in the 80’s and 90’s from the 2000’s

It’s fast becoming a mannerless world


When to parties at that age and be canvassing they should be pampered and giving an award.

My daughter at that age in a party with boys , and I had access to that video. She is finished! When I am done with her, she might not attend parties in her life time due to the trauma

I hope you don't have a daughter you can do this tho.....How vile can your heart be as a father?
Tufia!!
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 11:04pm On Oct 16, 2021
effort1:


Yeah, those were your ways of defending the flogging.

But now, you are suddenly condemning it.

You are a deceptive Soul, a liar and a man with double standard.
I am your professor here. When I speak you listen. Otherwise you get lost in thoughts. I can't help you. You can keep wandering around my posts till eternity.

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Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by effort1: 11:09pm On Oct 16, 2021
Empiree:
I am your professor here. When I speak you listen. Otherwise you get lost in thoughts. I can't help you. You can keep wandering around my posts till eternity.

Speak on, Professor Double Standard
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by chaloskyx: 11:15pm On Oct 16, 2021
lol the prophet Mohammed forbid you to fight back sir
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Sazeals(m): 11:45pm On Oct 16, 2021
Okortor:
D last teacher that tried non sense with my son, I just called the area commander, got both teacher and principal arrested.

Threatened them with law suit, lol.

Omo see begging with prostration, since then my son z been treated like a king. I can't afford to pay heavy fees n one frustrated teacher will flog My child, never.

Unlike d illiterate agbero on the other thread, that went with cutlass and thugs, nooooo..he goofed up big time, legal process is the sure bet in such case, just get them arrested and watch the school authorities go down on their knees begging.

Great weekend guys

You've got money for that
Calling area commander and filing lawsuits

The other BAba no get money
And he still find one way threaten them cheesy grin

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Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Nobody: 12:14am On Oct 17, 2021
faceland:


keep beating your child until they are bloody if they wouldn't e damaged adults

Kids are not beaten in American. And at 15 they are deadlier than what you call cults in Nigerian Universities.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Nobody: 12:17am On Oct 17, 2021
Dicedpineappple:


I hope you don't have a daughter you can do this tho.....How vile can your heart be as a father?
Tufia!!

And I pray you have one the party and peniss freaks, so you can motivate her.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 12:22am On Oct 17, 2021
effort1:


Speak on, Professor Double Standard
you see why I said I owe you guys no explanation?. I even hinted you a little bit bcus you tried to make sense but then you descended mentally again. I even quoted your own Bible to "wakeup" your mental faculty but you didn't get it. It is a pity.

Abeg, free me
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by MASTERMIND04(m): 12:46am On Oct 17, 2021
victorazy:


On top Muhammed
Lol
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by tctrills: 1:14am On Oct 17, 2021
Empiree:
grin You will learn at all cost. You must receive intelligence but any means necessary.

my point is, how does the Muslim school incident concern you if you think example of Oyedepo I cited was not necessary?.
First oyedepo example has nothing to do with this case, 2 wrongs never make a right.
You are still yet to tell me where you stand. Do you support the evil or not.
If you support it, it's ur opinion and religion and I would understand where you are coming from but you need to stop beating round the bush and tell us where you stand.
If you want us to discuss oyedepo after that, start a thread and I would be the first to comment.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 1:34am On Oct 17, 2021
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Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 1:38am On Oct 17, 2021
tctrills:

First oyedepo example has nothing to do with this case, 2 wrongs never make a right.
So you agree Oyedepo is christian fanatic and also you said example I used doesn't have anything to do with this madrasa incident. Then, why are you concerned with Muslim issue?. Why not mind your business then?.




You are still yet to tell me where you stand. Do you support the evil or not.
I don't owe you explanation and I don't support evil. You can't rob your fellow christian(Oyedepo) mischievous behavior under the carpet and stick your nose in Muslim issue. How about his recent statements, did you hear that?. His voice that went viral where he said he can not give charity to Muslim if they need him in the name of Allah(God). He said charity is only for christian or anyone that begs him in the name of God. See his confusion and hatred for Islam and Muslims.


If you support it, it's ur opinion and religion and I would understand where you are coming from but you need to stop beating round the bush and tell us where you stand.
I don't owe you any explanation. Have tried to get you to understand but I realized your reasoning faculty is not bright.


If you want us to discuss oyedepo after that, start a thread and I would be the first to comment.
Me to talk about and devote my precious time to someone that adds no values to my life?. Joke

If flogging is evil to you then go and expunge Deuteronomy 21 and John 2:15 from your Bible first before you tackle me.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 2:07am On Oct 17, 2021
tctrills:

First oyedepo example has nothing to do with this case, 2 wrongs never make a right.
You are still yet to tell me where you stand. Do you support the evil or not.
If you support it, it's ur opinion and religion and I would understand where you are coming from but you need to stop beating round the bush and tell us where you stand.
If you want us to discuss oyedepo after that, start a thread and I would be the first to comment.
These are Christian soldiers beat up suspect while praising Jesus. Just imagine they are Muslim soldiers I am sure you would condemn the act but here Christians praise the act. They don't see it as forcing religion in this innocent guy.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gje4khSIS4E
The text on the video say

"If we tell you to accept Christ Jesus as your Lord and personal savior you no gree, now that you've to take him by fire by force"


Where are human rights people?. Is this boy's forcing Chris down his throat?. Why is media quite on this?
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by Empiree: 2:14am On Oct 17, 2021
effort1:


Speak on, Professor Double Standard
These are Christian soldiers beat up suspect while praising Jesus. Just imagine they are Muslim soldiers I am sure you would condemn the act but here Christians praise the act. They don't see it as forcing religion in this innocent guy.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gje4khSIS4E
The text on the video say

"If we tell you to accept Christ Jesus as your Lord and personal savior you no gree, now that you've to take him by fire by force"


Where are human rights people?. Is this boy's forcing Chris down his throat?. Why is media quite on this?
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by naptu2: 4:47am On Oct 17, 2021
tctrills:

I don't get you, are you saying the beating is right or wrong? What exactly is your point?
And don't play the religious bigotry card because in Nigeria, Christians are about the most accomodating group.
But really are you supporting the evil actions of the teachers.

effort1:


Are you saying Islamic schools are not following Quran?


What that guy is saying is really very simple and I can't understand why you can't see it. He is saying that the flogging is not about Islam, rather it is rooted in Nigerian (probably African) culture and he's wondering why you condemn what happened at the school, but refuse to condemn the same type flogging elsewhere.


He has said that the school violated the Quran. See here:

Empiree:
now you just asked reasonable question. No, the school violated Quran unless you can quote Quran that says to beat unruly students like that.

He even made it more explicit that this type of flogging is a cultural issue that is done all over Nigeria (see the post below).

Empiree:
Answer these questions:

✓ Are you Nigerian?

✓ Which of the 3 major tribes are you from?

✓ Quote me where I said flogging like that was appropriate?

✓ Show evidence that the school based their judgement on Islamic verdict?.

Now, the reason I asked for your country and tribe is, is this kind of flogging outlandish to you guys?. If not then why are you guys act like it is new?. Every household in Nigeria is familiar with this kind of thing. This is why I insisted that I have nothing to explain to you people because each and everyone of you had different reasons for condemning the flogging. Majority of you don't care about the students but an avenue to attack Islam and Muslims. Interestingly, the same day this incident happened, the same barbaric act was committed in Onitsha. Why did media turn blind eyes?.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_N6jRrmEXU

This is why I said I owe no one explanations on the school issue because such treatment in Nigeria is norm. Until you clowns are ready for rational criticisms, only then I take you people seriously. But for as long as you only intend to attack a religion we will continue to drag this.

And for further reference you can check out OgunLaakaye's posts on this thread. He says that the flogging is justified in African culture and those that oppose it do so because they've become westernised.


OgunLaakaye:
That flogging was well deserved.


Y’all just using religious sentiments to attack issue

It’s rooted in the African culture and such discipline has produced the best of brains and people.

Why you can easily use manners and etiquettes to distinguish between people born in the 80’s and 90’s from the 2000’s

It’s fast becoming a mannerless world


When to parties at that age and be canvassing they should be pampered and giving an award.

My daughter at that age in a party with boys , and I had access to that video. She is finished! When I am done with her, she might not attend parties in her life time due to the trauma


OgunLaakaye:


I will boldly say it again, flogging was westernized and renamed abuse. The cane works! Holy books mentioned the importance of cane. It’s a tool to reset a brain that wants to get lost. That took instills that fear of the penalty of doing wrong. Now look in this case, girls in a party….? In the 80 and 90’s this was like suicide, cos you automatically aware of the consequences. And now we advocating they should not be flogged for gross indiscipline.

What would you have done in such circumstances considering their age?
Many of us could not try it at the age of 18. We knew what was coming

If I go by your logic, 90% of kids born in the 80’s and 90’s were abused. Do you know those resetting slaps our mothers dished on us? Slaps that if you try today, they will say it’s abuse. New generation kids will die or forever go dumb if those slaps were replicated. When our mothers can use just eyes to control us, how much more hand.

That discipline made us excel also, cos we knew failure was not an option

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Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by effort1: 8:20am On Oct 17, 2021
naptu2:





What that guy is saying is really very simple and I can't understand why you can't see it. He is saying that the flogging is not about Islam, rather it is rooted in Nigerian (probably African) culture and he's wondering why you condemn what happened at the school, but refuse to condemn the same type flogging elsewhere.


He has said that the school violated the Quran. See here:



He even made it more explicit that this type of flogging is a cultural issue that is done all over Nigeria (see the post below).



And for further reference you can check out OgunLaakaye's posts on this thread. He says that the flogging is justified in African culture and those that oppose it do so because they've become westernised.








Hanty multiple quoter, when you have three four people flogging a person at the same time, that's not African tradition. That's abuse. The same person you are defending was here condemning the same act he was earlier excusing.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by effort1: 8:23am On Oct 17, 2021
Empiree:
These are Christian soldiers beat up suspect while praising Jesus. Just imagine they are Muslim soldiers I am sure you would condemn the act but here Christians praise the act. They don't see it as forcing religion in this innocent guy.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gje4khSIS4E
The text on the video say

"If we tell you to accept Christ Jesus as your Lord and personal savior you no gree, now that you've to take him by fire by force"


Where are human rights people?. Is this boy's forcing Chris down his throat?. Why is media quite on this?


I condemn this outrightly. It is unchristian.

I'm unlike you, who was making excuse for abuse to protect your religion.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by effort1: 8:24am On Oct 17, 2021
Empiree:
you see why I said I owe you guys no explanation?. I even hinted you a little bit bcus you tried to make sense but then you descended mentally again. I even quoted your own Bible to "wakeup" your mental faculty but you didn't get it. It is a pity.

Abeg, free me

Get lost, religion fanatic
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by naptu2: 8:25am On Oct 17, 2021
effort1:


Hanty multiple quoter, when you have three four people flogging a person at the same time, that's not African tradition. That's abuse. The same person you are defending was here condemning the same act he was earlier excusing.

Kai! I see why it was difficult to understand. You seem to be in a confrontational mood. I was not defending anyone, simply explaining what was said.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by tctrills: 8:30am On Oct 17, 2021
naptu2:





What that guy is saying is really very simple and I can't understand why you can't see it. He is saying that the flogging is not about Islam, rather it is rooted in Nigerian (probably African) culture and he's wondering why you condemn what happened at the school, but refuse to condemn the same type flogging elsewhere.
If I see that kind of flogging anywhere, I would condemn it so I don't see his point.. He is trying to water down the case by bringing up every other flogging incident.


He has said that the school violated the Quran. See here:



He even made it more explicit that this type of flogging is a cultural issue that is done all over Nigeria (see the post below).



And for further reference you can check out OgunLaakaye's posts on this thread. He says that the flogging is justified in African culture and those that oppose it do so because they've become westernised.







He continues to avoid my question. Instead he keeps talking about Oyedepo slapping people. And that type of flogging is not African. If you flog your child like that in my village, people would stop you.
Most nigerian flog their kid's yet everyone was terrified by that flogging.
I only wanted him to condemn it first.
Re: I'd Fight If Anyone Flogged My Children Like Kwara Students - Islamic Preacher by tctrills: 8:35am On Oct 17, 2021
naptu2:





What that guy is saying is really very simple and I can't understand why you can't see it. He is saying that the flogging is not about Islam, rather it is rooted in Nigerian (probably African) culture and he's wondering why you condemn what happened at the school, but refuse to condemn the same type flogging elsewhere.


He has said that the school violated the Quran. See here:



He even made it more explicit that this type of flogging is a cultural issue that is done all over Nigeria (see the post below).



And for further reference you can check out OgunLaakaye's posts on this thread. He says that the flogging is justified in African culture and those that oppose it do so because they've become westernised.







Finally you are coming out. I like said, it's your religion. Since you believe in such brutality, Ithe would be hard to convince you otherwise.

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