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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:24am On Oct 18, 2021
nitrogen:
cheesy cheesy cheesy This shyte is painful and emotionally draining. Chai!

We die there, all of us.
Na person wey get energy to waste go dey drained.

I go into every single match now expecting that we can lose. That way I am never surprised.

He that is already disappointed cannot be disappointed again. I know why I named him Amaka.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:38am On Oct 18, 2021
Illimitable:
Mourinho inherited the worst United side since the Gulf war. City had Aguero, KDB, Sterling, Fernandinho, Kompany, David Silva, Hart, etc. City didn’t finish below top 4 post-SAF. United finished top 4 just once post-SAF.

The people that said what you are claiming now are part of the problem.
All the points you mentioned above, I also mentioned, but they kept shouting me down. However, Mourinho didn't deserve to remain because we were relegation bound before he left. The players he bought were also not playing well. The only plus then was Mctominay he promoted from the youth team and looked like Herrera 1.5
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:00am On Oct 18, 2021
Illimitable:
Mourinho inherited the worst United side since the Gulf war. City had Aguero, KDB, Sterling, Fernandinho, Kompany, David Silva, Hart, etc. City didn’t finish below top 4 post-SAF. United finished top 4 just once post-SAF.

The people that said what you are claiming now are part of the problem.
Man Utd had Rooney = Aguero, Sterling = Rashford, David Silva = Mata, Hart < DDG, Fernadinho = Schneiderlin, Yaya = Schweinsteiger Martial was the new kid on the block
Man Utd and City finished level on points, City won the Carling, Man utd won FA cup

Mourinho and Pep inherited basically the same thing. It's the quality of coaching that made Mourinho finish behind Pep consistently
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 6:20am On Oct 18, 2021
Come to think of this sacking coach of a thing. Na Abrahamovic changed most club mentality on this part. But Manchester united no wan follow that mentality.

Ole no fit survive last season if na Chelshit the he dey.

Make our board dey apply this mentality naw. Sack any coach that's not performing.

They used that mentality for Moyes, that of Van gaal and Mourinho was late.

No coach can give that Ferguson longevity again. Get this coaches on 2years contracts or at most 3years, So that if sack happens, money for pay off won't be much.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 6:48am On Oct 18, 2021
CapitalCee:
Class of 92 own the pain me pass, it is high time they are banned from ever talking about Man Utd
They're all silent.

Neville is yarning shit also
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:16am On Oct 18, 2021
raumdeuter:
Man Utd had Rooney = Aguero, Sterling = Rashford, David Silva = Mata, Hart < DDG, Fernadinho = Schneiderlin, Yaya = Schweinsteiger Martial was the new kid on the block
Man Utd and City finished level on points, City won the Carling, Man utd won FA cup

Mourinho and Pep inherited basically the same thing. It's the quality of coaching that made Mourinho finish behind Pep consistently
You forgot to mention that Man city were champions league semi finalists, while united crash out at the group stage

Rooney was finished at that time, Aguero was the best striker in the league.

Lol. Rashford just broke out from the feeders team, with no season worth of football yet, Sterling was already involved in a tense title race 2 seasons before and was a £50m marquee signing.

Silva was a world class Midfielder and a regular starting XI in La roja, whime Mata was a bench warmer, they were never in the same level.

Lol Schnerderlein that flopped at even everton that Tom davies was benching him, you are comparing with Fernandinho? One of the best DM EPL has seen.
Scheistwiger was finished.
Only DDG was ok
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:49am On Oct 18, 2021
afrodoc2:
grin

Once Fred is involved that is what happens. Like someone else has taken over the account. LMAO
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:54am On Oct 18, 2021
This team go fit beat Atalanta?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 7:56am On Oct 18, 2021
patrickmuf:
This team go fit beat Atalanta?
Ambiguous question for Olè and his cohorts.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:07am On Oct 18, 2021
CapitalCee:
You forgot to mention that Man city were champions league semi finalists, while united crash out at the group stage

Rooney was finished at that time, Aguero was the best striker in the league.

Lol. Rashford just broke out from the feeders team, with no season worth of football yet, Sterling was already involved in a tense title race 2 seasons before and was a £50m marquee signing.

Silva was a world class Midfielder and a regular starting XI in La roja, whime Mata was a bench warmer, they were never in the same level.

Lol Schnerderlein that flopped at even everton that Tom davies was benching him, you are comparing with Fernandinho? One of the best DM EPL has seen.
Scheistwiger was finished.
Only DDG was ok
These players were in the team:

Shaw
Smalling
Herrera
Fellaini
Depay
Lingard
Martial
Young
Valencia
Fred
Mkhitaryan
Lukaku
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:16am On Oct 18, 2021
elampiro:
These players were in the team:

Shaw
Smalling
Herrera
Fellaini
Depay
Lingard
Martial
Young
Valencia
Fred
Mkhitaryan
Lukaku
Are you holding brief for Ole?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Silentgroper(m): 8:24am On Oct 18, 2021
Searchingvictor:
If we lose our match next week, where we will find ourselves on the table won't be nice oh. Thank goodness, it's the last game for next week. They'll know where they are already
Its against liverpool. So u knw how it is na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:44am On Oct 18, 2021
raumdeuter:
Man Utd had Rooney = Aguero, Sterling = Rashford, David Silva = Mata, Hart < DDG, Fernadinho = Schneiderlin, Yaya = Schweinsteiger Martial was the new kid on the block
Man Utd and City finished level on points, City won the Carling, Man utd won FA cup

Mourinho and Pep inherited basically the same thing. It's the quality of coaching that made Mourinho finish behind Pep consistently
If this is true, how come City won the title in 13/14 and United finished 7th

If your statement is also true, how come United never finished above City between 2013/14 to 2015/16?

If your statement is also true, how come City reached semifinals of UCL in 15/16 season while United couldn’t even qualify from their group.

Your assertion that City and United had similar strength before the arrival of Pep/Mourinho is intellectually fraudulent.

City were miles above United in ability. The only reason they finished with same points in 15/16 was because City concentrated their resources in winning their CL that year and sacrificed their league games.

The fact that you can even compare Yaya Toure to Schneiderlin already tells me you don’t watch football.

So it’s the level of coaching that made Rooney/Schneiderlin relegate to Everton where they were summarily kicked out after Everton found out they were duds?

If City had sold Aguero and Toure before the arrival of Pep, would they have ended up at Everton?

Why do you people lie like this? Aguero at 34 ended up in Barcelona, Rooney at 32 ended up in Everton and MLS in the US - but it’s similar strength. cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:48am On Oct 18, 2021
CapitalCee:
You forgot to mention that Man city were champions league semi finalists, while united crash out at the group stage

Rooney was finished at that time, Aguero was the best striker in the league.

Lol. Rashford just broke out from the feeders team, with no season worth of football yet, Sterling was already involved in a tense title race 2 seasons before and was a £50m marquee signing.

Silva was a world class Midfielder and a regular starting XI in La roja, whime Mata was a bench warmer, they were never in the same level.

Lol Schnerderlein that flopped at even everton that Tom davies was benching him, you are comparing with Fernandinho? One of the best DM EPL has seen.
Scheistwiger was finished.
Only DDG was ok
The revisionism to prop Pep as messiah never ceases to amuse me.

David De Gea was the only world class player at United when Mourinho arrived. The other quality players were either too old to perform or past their peak.

LVG qualified for CL, crashed out from the group to Europa like Ole……and still ended up eliminated in Europa.

Meanwhile, City were one goal away from reaching the CL final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:53am On Oct 18, 2021
elampiro:
All the points you mentioned above, I also mentioned, but they kept shouting me down. However, Mourinho didn't deserve to remain because we were relegation bound before he left. The players he bought were also not playing well. The only plus then was Mctominay he promoted from the youth team and looked like Herrera 1.5
United were 6th when Mourinho was sacked and he was about to embark on the easiest run of fixtures.

Ole the messiah was brought in, players had something to prove so they won mostly all the games in that run of easy fixtures. Shortly after, they started losing in almost every game.

In short, Ole inherited United in 6th position and took them to a lofty height in the same 6th position. He crashed out of CL knock out stage(Mourinho qualified us from the group before the sack) and Ole also lost scandalously to Lampard’s Chelsea in the FA cup run.

If Mourinho deserved the sack, Ole should have been sacked immediately after the completion of 18/19 season. He didn’t improve on Jose’s worst season at United.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:05am On Oct 18, 2021
nitrogen:
cheesy cheesy cheesy This shyte is painful and emotionally draining. Chai!

We die there, all of us.
You and who? You can die there, me I won’t.

I value my peace of mind biko.

Let Ole and the rest be doing as they like. I Dey Sidon look.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:09am On Oct 18, 2021
nitrogen:
Everything is wrong with the team. Our full backs won’t overlap, our wingers won’t cross, they’d rather cut in and try to play shots (e.g. Greenwood) or pass back 90 percent of the time to the full backs, even though we have the best header on the pitch, we have an energetic Bruno that is always running around without direction, and mostly he is with dem Ronaldo and Greenwood, and also trying to rush passes or play shots, we have the midfield gap because only two players are around to prevent counterattacks, meanwhile Pogba is relatively slow and finds it difficult to track back, why won’t any decent team counterattack us easily? We also have some players that started training yesterday playing today, when the bench has players.

Indiscipline, favouritism, mediocrity, laziness, no chemistry, etc. It’s just a mess right now!
This guy hatred for Bruno no be here, you made plenty sense except the bolded...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:27am On Oct 18, 2021
elampiro:
I saw comments still blaming McFred
That's what you want to see.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:46am On Oct 18, 2021
patrickmuf:
Are you holding brief for Ole?
Ole, ole, ole is all you know grin.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:52am On Oct 18, 2021
grin


Ole is Manager version of McFred.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:57am On Oct 18, 2021
My God, Xavi is the god of midfielders.

Of all players some research groups have filmed in the past 20+ years, Xavi Hernández is the one with the highest average scanning frequency in a full game (measured last 10 seconds before receiving the ball):

For those who don’t know, a scan was operationally defined as a player’s active head movement where the face (and hence, the eyes) is temporarily directed away from the ball, with the assumed intention of gathering information about teammates and/or opponents, to prepare for subsequently engaging with the ball.

Xavi’s head is always moving to check his environment before receiving the ball. No wonder United players were chasing shadows in 2009 CL final. We couldn’t get close to him. Fergie said it’s like he had eyes behind his head. If you think you have closed Xavi down, he just turns to the other direction he had scanned before receiving the ball and eludes his marker.

McFred in a million years can’t attain this level of awareness.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:02am On Oct 18, 2021
elampiro:
Ole, ole, ole is all you know grin.
patrick also knows fred fred fred cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 10:02am On Oct 18, 2021
Illimitable:
My God, Xavi is the god of midfielders.

Of all players some research groups have filmed in the past 20+ years, Xavi Hernández is the one with the highest average scanning frequency in a full game (measured last 10 seconds before receiving the ball):

For those who don’t know, a scan was operationally defined as a player’s active head movement where the face (and hence, the eyes) is temporarily directed away from the ball, with the assumed intention of gathering information about teammates and/or opponents, to prepare for subsequently engaging with the ball.

Xavi’s head is always moving to check his environment before receiving the ball. No wonder United players were chasing shadows in 2009 CL final. We couldn’t get close to him. Fergie said it’s like he had eyes behind his head. If you think you have closed Xavi down, he just turns to the other direction he had scanned before receiving the ball and eludes his marker.

McFred in a million years can’t attain this level of awareness.
I read that article, it was very interesting but I have my reservations sha. I want to see how Xavi would have perform in this age where pressing is more relevant. (High press). Against the likes of Liverpool or City let's see how scanning will help him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 10:06am On Oct 18, 2021
TrebleChamp:
This guy hatred for Bruno no be here, you made plenty sense except the bolded...
I'd be mad if I was him too.

You have a guy that cost a fraction of what the great French hope cost and delivers regularly without us running around Carrington looking for unlocking software.

Just need a manager that can properly define a system for us. United would be a fecking threat with a proper manager.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:10am On Oct 18, 2021
Panther7:
I read that article, it was very interesting but I have my reservations sha. I want to see how Xavi would have perform in this age where pressing is more relevant. (High press). Against the likes of Liverpool or City let's see how scanning will help him.
Xavi would impregnate all of them. Look at the other names on the list who scan less frequently than Xavi, markers couldn’t touch them too.

KDB or Gundogan for example. They were running riots against the likes of Kante or Wijnaldum and they have less awareness than Xavi. Xavi is too crafty - small but mighty.

People thought midgets like him couldn’t run a midfield because of the size. The likes of Edmilson, Vieira, Van Bommel and other human mountains were preferred for combative football. Xavi changed that notion for ever with his high level appreciation of time and space.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:15am On Oct 18, 2021
Panther7:
I read that article, it was very interesting but I have my reservations sha. I want to see how Xavi would have perform in this age where pressing is more relevant. (High press). Against the likes of Liverpool or City let's see how scanning will help him.
There are levels to possession game and Xavi is at the peak. I am not surprised about this scanning stat cos I have mentioned it before.

When you watch him you see his head always moving in different directions every few seconds. The maestro was always taking snap shots of everybody’s position on the pitch so that whenever he was pressed he had passing options.

He is the only person I know that was averaging over 90 passes per game AND over 90 % pass accuracy for entire seasons.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 10:24am On Oct 18, 2021
afrodoc2:
Harvetz don become mathematical function that needs to be integrated. cheesy

It is what it is.
How far? Wetin we go con do about the 73M player you used 2 years to pursue like this? I heard he came from the same league as Champions League winning Kai Havertz

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 10:26am On Oct 18, 2021
afrodoc2:
Gaddemit!

What number does this Kai Harvetz play sef?

He is neither a 7 nor an 11. He does not play like an 8, 9, or 10.

If push came to shove i could call him a 0.

Kai “Orogbo” Harvest. grin
Native Doctor, what's Golden Boy Sancho's position?

I need it for academic research.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 10:27am On Oct 18, 2021
CapitalCee:
Most of their player no even start. Zapata was on the bench, Gosens, Djimsiti and Pessina were all injured
Zapata still scored
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 10:28am On Oct 18, 2021
BikeMan:
How far? Wetin we go con do about the 73M player you used 2 years to pursue like this? I heard he came from the same league as Champions League winning Kai Havertz
What has havertz done this season.

Una too like noise..

sad sad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:31am On Oct 18, 2021
elampiro:
[s][/s]
Ole, ole, ole is all you know grin.
You seem be the only one still backing Ole, everyone is at fault bar Ole...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 10:31am On Oct 18, 2021
Illimitable:
Xavi would impregnate all of them. Look at the other names on the list who scan less frequently than Xavi, markers couldn’t touch them too.

KDB or Gundogan for example. They were running riots against the likes of Kante or Wijnaldum and they have less awareness than Xavi. Xavi is too crafty - small but mighty.

People thought midgets like him couldn’t run a midfield because of the size. The likes of Edmilson, Vieira, Van Bommel and other human mountains were preferred for combative football. Xavi changed that notion for ever with his high level appreciation of time and space.
Fair point, I don't appreciate physical midfielders, I prefer technical and intelligent ones e.g KDB.
United don't have these types of midfielders that's why we struggle at times.
Xavi will be a great coach, his understanding of the game is magnificent, I learnt a lot from his coach's voice interview. How he broke down the possession concept is interesting. That's what we except from Amaka but baba go dey talk about DNA and passion.
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