Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

Oga shut up! Are they supposed to be wearing rags and behaving like cave men? Even Jesus himself showed off with that expensive donkey he used for triumphant entry. Stop saying nonsense.

wale81:
So much envy and hate against pastors.

So a pastor isn't allowed to prosper.

If he /she is prosperous, people who haven't read their bible in over 1 year will come online and begin to quote scriptures supporting poverty.

Someone here on this thread gave them back to back and the response is "see the reply from a Christian"

I advise anyone here to stop replying and just let the haters hate. They have made up their minds and you will not convince them.

A pastor is rich and automatically its the poor they are stealing from...accusations made by people who might not even remember the last time they paid school fees or emptied their accounts to support the so-called poor they are defending.

The hate and jealousy are sickening.

So because Jesus went on hard roads, then Christians should do so abi? You that know the scripture, go and do it na, make we follow you.

Criticize pastors and men of God and Christians all you want....they will keep rising and prospering and all the nairaland comments wont change a thing.

Read the bible upside down and justify poverty, and see if they will be affected....just know you cannot attract what you hate.

Try am for the other religion na, shebi its only Christianity that allows you to run mouth like tap and flex online muscle you no get for real life?

Wo...I'm logging out.

If you like quote me 10000 times, I no go answer.

Prosper on whose pockets? A person collecting handouts from everybody is a servant to the masters that give out money.his needs should be taken care of. If he wants luxury he should go and practice his medicine

memd:


Why is it you seem to have overlooked the part that this woman actually did get healed?

You have stopped going to church because... why? Okay you didn't actually state a reason.
You believe in God? You believe the Bible is the word of God?

He said, "If you love me, keep my commandments."
One of those is "not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together."

So, sir, I do not know why you've withdrawn from church, but that's not much the issue. We are to worship God in spirit and in truth, but there's still the place of fellowship and communion.

Do 'pastors' offend you? Why? We do know there will be false prophets, yes, no one denies that. But does that mean they all are false prophets?

Probably, we have these opinions because these well-known Men of God are financially doing excellent. But the truth is that there is no one that will give himself to God and not be blessed. "Seek ye first... all other things will be added."

These men cannot but be blessed. If everyone stopped paying offerings, it won't hinder their blessings. For Elijah, it was a poor widow woman God used, and the woman never remained poor herself. Even when there was no one, God used a raven to supply Elijah's meal. You cannot give yourself wholly to God and not partake of the bounties of heaven.

So, all these talk about men of God being business men...? Again, there are false prophets, but they all aren't. By their fruits you shall know them. That fruit is not prosperity. True prosperity comes from God.

Okay we talk about Dr. Enenche, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc, but those are just few of the popular ones. What of these many many numerous pastors of local churches that might not be as financially buoyant? Are those the ones who are really serving God because they're poor? Of course not! Even among those, there're false ones.

These giants started from those lower levels too, but God has catapulted them up there. Who are we to speak against a man whom God has chosen to honour? May we not blaspheme!

Someone mentioned that we do not need to go through any Man of God to reach God. Of course, absolutely correct! But won't you agree that there are some who have climbed to higher levels than some of us have? These men have drawn closer to God than we have, and that is why they can be channels of blessings to everyone. If you draw as close too, God can so use you even beyond these men. Jesus said we'll do greater works than this! Anyone could learn to fly a plane, but we leave that to the pilots, and we dare not complain when they get their salaries.

Why do we seem to equate serving God with poverty? You believe in God, do you believe the records of miracles in His word? Do you believe the account of the Israelites fed with manna for decades? Do you believe the account of the 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes feeding 5thousand? Do you believe the money in the fish belly? Do you believe the abundance of fish that brake Peter's net?

So why is it so hard to believe that God blesses his own? Is anything too hard for God?

Sir, two questions for you and any other person who has taken the time to read this:
Do you believe in God?
The more important one: Have you tasted of God?

I leave you with Psalm 34: "Oh taste and see that the Lord is good... He'll give you everything!"

My guy.. You have been brainwashed thoroughly. Do you know how many people have died because they refuse medical help but instead believe that thier church will heal them....?
You think men of God prosper because of God's blessings.? Lol.. Ur brainwashing like I said is deep.
Now, a so called man of God can be said to prosper if he has won many souls over to the Kingdom which cannot be measured by the number of members but by the improved morals of a population.now,this is missing in Nigeria. So, no pastor in Nigeria is prosperous.
Now listen, you are the one blessing them and not God. Without your money, these men will abandon ministry. So the members are the pastors God period

Donpaper:
Eyah! Then show us the real men of God!!! By the way, if by chance you become a man of God, please suffer a lot as a form of humility. Have money but dress in rags, live like a poor man so that people can call you a real man of God.

I come in peace!

What a shallow brain? If I am the one feeding you that means I should be well off more than you na..unless the least member in Dunamis can lodge in trump towers, then it's ok. As a pastor that is surviving from handouts from members, you should be very modest in your spending after all you are just a servant not a master.

Jochabed:
What kind of question is this? He was invited to the US for a program, his host lodged him in the Trump Towers, what under the heavens is wrong with that? If you as an individual strive to have a better life so as to have the good things of life, what's wrong with pastor's having the good things of life? [b][/b]Mind you Jesus Christ our savior said and I qoute *" I became poor so that you might be rich" *[b][/b]Stop all this unnecessary sentiment.

There is no scriptures that Jesus Christ said " I became poor so that you might become rich.

Get connected to Christ Jesus.
He said, Learn from me, For I am meek and Lowly in heart.

Will Jesus do the same ?
Let us learn from the master and pattern our lives like Hom

Grace and Peace

Jochabed:
Entertainers, politicians post their flex, you no dey complain.

Entertainers offer thier services which we buy. They are hardworking people.. On the otherhand, politicians(tax payers money) and pastors(Members money) are being taken care by the public and should live a modest lifestyle

athaboi:
on top 20th floor of Trump's tower?? My dear relax... Jesus went through the tiny road and climbed boat to meet the interior villages who hasn't heard about him. What's he looking for in America? Has he finished zamfara state? And other local places where the gospel is needed?

Read the post first. This prejudice is not allowing you to think critically.

kingolovich:


Gods business actually, and there's nothing wrong with that, Jesus Christ himself said He is about His Father's 'business'.

You guys should learn to look at things from the light of Gods word. If a man pray to God for good things how much more those who are His servants.

So if I say 'abeg mind your business'.. It means company, trading and money to you.. Lol.. Some people just went to school for fun.. Lol

[quote author=Iyaebe post=107001783]Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.


So it is only when he would be begging to pay for his house rent or feed that you will know that he is "truly a man of God". You don't even know God. He has riches and all the good things of this world? If the earth is of the Lord and its fullness and you serve God, is there anything wrong in you enjoying the properties of your master?
See, go read your Bible very well...Heaven is more beautiful than what ever beauty you have ever seen. I don't know why people attribute serving God to poverty.

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

U are not Serious, Pls...just mind ur Biz and Stop Forming activist here...U seem misled by IGNORANCE

athaboi:
Working or pressing his phone? What is his work exactly? As in director of a company or what?? Instead of her to say he's posing for pictures she's there saying he's working.

Lol babe... Hmmm... I think he took a break to just snap some pictures and press his phone

You really are so beautiful. I just checked your profile now and I'm stunned by your beauty and supernatural attraction. It's overwhelming

MisterKennedy:

Lol babe... Hmmm... I think he took a break to just snap some pictures and press his phone

You really are so beautiful. I just checked your profile now and I'm stunned by your beauty and supernatural attraction. It's overwhelming

hmmm
Thanks

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

you are gullible

Chibuezem:
shut up how dare you judge a man of God because of his material acquisition, were you there when he was suffering to possess the program of his calling, you that is poor and wretched how many souls have you converted to Christ, job whom God boasted of was poor but rewarded with 100 folds of what He lost during his days of trial.
The worst thing is to judge when God has not revealed anything to you (only a spiritual man judges, one who has the Revelation of God in Him)
Mmechie gi onu
Go and preach the Gospel, raise men to God

so with all the insults u gave this guy now, how do u want to me to follow ur God

Jochabed:
What kind of question is this? He was invited to the US for a program, his host lodged him in the Trump Towers, what under the heavens is wrong with that? If you as an individual strive to have a better life so as to have the good things of life, what's wrong with pastor's having the good things of life? Mind you Jesus Christ our savior said and I qoute " I became poor so that you might be rich" Stop all this unnecessary sentiment.

Thank you SK much sweetie. You've just spoke my mind.

I wonder why many people see pastors as people who are not to chop life and suffer for Christ.

Even before Christ came in the new testament He always made sure His instruments and vessels were well taken good care of.

I checked Christ's bloodline from Abraham to Mary's parent's, they never knew poverty

Riches are one of Christ's biggest incentives for serving Him that He gives to anyone who truly loves Him and is willing to be smart and hardworking

But Pastors being rich has been so dainted especially here in Africa

Solomon was the richest man in his time and he loved God

In fact the richest man in this world now is supposed to be a man who loves God beyond measures

I guess the hatred for rich men of God stems up from the notion of tithe and misappropriation of Church funds. Which is wrong

If pastors were rich or not so wealthy honestly how many people will even care to listen to them preach? I guess no one

Don't mind them dear.

Jochabed:
Lol.. So poverty is a sign of being a true servant of God? Abeg, why do you go to work everyday?

Sweetie please can you chat me up on WhatsApp please 08100553547

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

get out there ! Because he is flashy . Same set of people you nitwits were calling poor as church rats in the 80s. If your money is not involved , GET OUT ! Your mouth will kill you. What you comment here is irrelevant. After all, Heaven’s streets are made of solid Gold. Doesn’t that sound flashy to you ? He cant please everyone. Jesus got same bashing from your ancestors over a bottle of perfume . I
AM ANGRY AND HATE WICKED HYPOCRITES

athaboi:
Working or pressing his phone? What is his work exactly? As in director of a company or what?? Instead of her to say he's posing for pictures she's there saying he's working.

Non of your business. Mind your business if you have any. HE IS LIVING HIS DREAM AND CALLING. He owes you nothing , call the police if he stole from you .He is not the reason why you failed

Religion is the opium of Nigerians

Jochabed:
His doing God's work. End Of Story!

Which kind yeye work of God is he doing there ? He is there to enjoy himself. Do you know the number of prostitutes that have been bleeped on that hotel? Do you know the level of immortality that goes on there even as he is there ? Is that a place to do the work of God ?

A lot of people are pained.

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

Have you heard or the Abrahamic blessing/convenant That is what most of these pastors are enjoying. Most of these pastors are from lineage of pastors that has laboured for the gospel and they are reaping the labour of their fore fathers . So if pastor Paul Enenche decide to go to Trump tower to bathe , e no concern you.

What type of work is he doing there now.

Jochabed:
What kind of question is this? He was invited to the US for a program, his host lodged him in the Trump Towers, what under the heavens is wrong with that? If you as an individual strive to have a better life so as to have the good things of life, what's wrong with pastor's having the good things of life? Mind you Jesus Christ our savior said and I qoute " I became poor so that you might be rich" Stop all this unnecessary sentiment.

How could you be defending this? No wonder these so called men of God are thriving in Nigeria and Africa at large.
Does it have to be showy display?

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

Even pastor Chris...

EvenBlogger:
Dr. Paul Enenche of Dunamis International Gospel Centre and his wife. Dr. Becky Enenche are currently in Chicago, United States.

The clerics are in states for a programme by Church of Fire International/

They have been there for three days now.

Sharing a picture of the cleric on Instagram, his wife described him as a man of vision, purpose and focus.

She wrote, "Working from the 20th floor of Trump towers and hotels Chicago. A man of vision and purpose and focus."

Source: https://www.churchloaded.com/about/dr-paul-enenche-pictured-working-from-20th-floor-of-trump-towers-in-chicago/

My father in the Lord.

Fake men of God, I pity people following you people wholeheartedly o. Una end is loading

Munzy14:
Even pastor Chris...

He's an exception

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

Whether you like it or not, some people are God's favorites and they can help you intercede. Some men are closer to God than others. Even someone you so much look down can be than you really thought.

Iyaebe:
Are these men truly men of God?They are so materialistic,flashy and wealth conscious.I wonder if this is what Christ lived for.Humans should reach out to God directly and not through any medium(men of God) because there's no barrier between God and anyone and He needs no medium to seek him.Be wise.

effect of poverty.

Iyaebe:
I no longer give tithe in the church because my G.O is one of the richest pastors in the world, I simply give my tithe and care to the old and abandoned because that's where my passion is and I derive great joy doing that and I believe its better than given it out in the church where you can't account for what your tithe is been used for but my mom thinks I'm backsliding lol

your tithe is 10% of your income, can you give that to the poor?

Infact since you stopped tithing, when last did you give to the poor? And how much.
Stop deceiving yourself. come out plain and tell us you now eat your tithe and give #100 to the beggers.