donstan18:

Klopp relegated Mainz.

Whatever you feel Klopp did for Dortmund, Zidane did it thrice/twice for Madrid.

Klopp didn’t succeed immediately with Liverpool, it took him close to 3 years while getting embarrassed and humiliated by Sevilla in Europa finals, same can’t be said of Zidane who made Madrid ruthless in Europe.

Ffs Zidane left Madrid, they struggled, he came back and won Laliga.

Don’t you get the point?

This Zidane Fvckin humiliated Klopp back to back to back, Klopp Na small boy to Zidane when it comes to achievements, H2H and trophies.

Klopp got to the Europa finals the season he became Manager, and it was just one final..
What could he do with a Mainz that had no money, the first time Mainz pleyed in the Bundlesliga since there existence came courtesy of Klopp..
B4 Klopp came, we hadn't won the league in 30 years...It doesn't matter if he had 10 years, the point is he did something unprecedented...

donstan18:

What chased Klopp from Bundesliga? Why didn’t he keep dominating??

Zidane ruled Europe and Spain throughout his days managing Madrid, he’s a god in the record settings, humiliated almost all the top coaches before winning Ucl.

Don’t fvxk with him.

He’s way clear.

Klopp isn’t a bad coach, but he’s not in any way qualified to be compared to Zidane.

When Your account been debited every week without any source of inflow, no matter how prudent you're, sapa must hold you and with time you go go village.

Now that klopp can hold is best players and attract his choice of players, we can see how deadly his team is

AnfieldFan:


He left when the ovation was loudest and because Bayern poached his players..
Why didn't Pep stay with Bayern
Why isn't Zidane still dominating Europe with Madrid..
Since Ronaldo left, has he won the Champions league..
Klopp beat a Barca that had Messi without key players.

Roma beat a Barca that had Messi and Inesta with old De Rossi and Dzeko.


Zidane made UCl semis and won Laliga without Ronaldo, something Ronaldo won only once before Zidane took charge, when will Ronaldo make Ucl Semis after playing for Zidane.

Zidane dominated Europe and Klopp was one of his victims, tell me when Klopp will ever boss Pep, Zidane and Sevilla to win a a tournament.

raumdeuter:


Why did Klopp decline Ferguson then? Because he knew they don't have 3yrs to wait for trophies like Liverpool and Dortmund.

And that one wants to manage Madrid?

Personal decision and mainly because his wife didn't want that at that stage in time....

Better question, why hasn't Pep won the champions league despite spending more than most leagues have spent since he left Messi....
But I don't like stupid questions so I won't continue with this line of questioning...

Jodera:
Tuchel has beaten Pep 3 times!
I still don't believe he's tactical or better than pep

When will Klop beat Zidane?

AnfieldFan:


Klopp was without his entire back line due to injuries to the extent Manuel who was retired and club less (Released by Bayern Leverkusen) had to be called out of retirement for Dortmund...Gundogan who was the heart of his midfield picked up an injury that lasted more than a year..There were extenuating circumstances...Hummels and Bender who was also a strong midfield presence picked up injuries too

Which center back line did he miss when he finished 25 and 19 points behind Bayern

BlueAngel444:
lol Bale and Zidane, e better make academy player dey bench. So wait this are the world class players on the bench abi, Asensio, Kovacic and Nacho, game changers abi

You're wrong because Bale changed the game while we had Lallana.
That Madrid bench was better than ours...If you say no to this, then I won't quote you regarding this cuz you're obviously biased...

AnfieldFan:
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This is just so mind boggling... Even for you, this is a new low...

If that Madrid team did not win 3 CL in a row, No one will be calling them one of the greatest teams

Jodera:
Does that mean it wasn't a great team he met there capable of winning everything?
My point is clear, zidane is a great coach, not undermining his feat, cos it's not easy feat.
But he's not better or more tactical than klopp

Capable schmapable. The koko is Zidane came into a team in higher stakes environment and delivered at a historical clip and without extensive spending either. We also have their head to head clashes as proof Zizou has the number of Klopp

BlueAngel444:
well true, but telling this things is never easy, that's why it's good to respect every manager(who isn't named ole, make person no stone me for here )

Tuchel failed to win UCL at PSG but won with Chelsea, sometimes have better players isn't always that favorable, look at Moyes and westham

Lol, even your tuchel wasn't highly rated before his Chelsea stint, even tho he took PSG to finals. Most Chelsea fans had double mind with his coming and they were reservations. I would say Chelsea did his CV alot of good!
Moyes was never a winner and have never been a winner even in his Everton days

Klopp is a winner, he didn't just win the league twice, but won cup alongside it. You no fit put klopp moyez and Ole for one sentence

Having better players is always favorable as long as you're a good tactician and have good human relationship. And klopp have both, so there's every tendency he would have succeeded in a top club

AnfieldFan:


How long did Zidane manage Madrid generally and how long did You manage for?

If Mou was so bad, why did the call back for r him when Zidane left?

Zidane first tenure. 2.5yrs 3 CL 1 league
Second tenure 1.5yrs 1 league titles
Total 4yrs 3 CL 2 leagues

Mou 3 seasons 1 league title

AnfieldFan:


Klopp got to the Europa finals the season he became Manager, and it was just one final..
What could he do with a Mainz that had no money, the first time Mainz pleyed in the Bundlesliga since there existence came courtesy of Klopp..
B4 Klopp came, we hadn't won the league in 30 years...It doesn't matter if he had 10 years, the point is he did something unprecedented...

Klopp has been relegated and that’s a fact.

Klopp has lost more finals than he has won and that’s a fact.

Name one elite coach that has such stat.

BlueAngel444:
see eh, in 50years whatever Klopp and Pep have done can be outdone but you see that 3UCLs Zidane won back to back, I bet you no manager would be able to pull it off

Lol... It happens.
This thing na why I dey pray make Man u sign Zidane, cos I wan check something

donstan18:

Pundits like?

Why not tell me the pundit who rated Zidane’s achievements lesser than Klopp’s.

You no answer my question, but want me to answer yours, you never serious.

For starters, Paul Merson and Timo Werner regard Klopp as the best manager currently...
Now, who rates Zidane higher than Klopp

Jodera:
I told you 2 out of 3 years, Bayern won the league. How is a team that won the league 2 out of 3 years not at the top of their game?

Is just like if mochenglabach wins the league this season and next, we would be wrong to say they won it wen Bayern was top of their game

Bayern was weak at that time that was why teams like Stuttgart and Wolfsburg could win just like Klops Dortmund

When Bayern was ready na 25 and 19 points gap he dey chop

Jodera:
Lol
He did it at barca and Bayern!

What did pep do at barka and Bayern that’s special?

Jodera:
Lol, even your tuchel wasn't highly rated before his Chelsea stint, even tho he took PSG to finals. Most Chelsea fans had double mind with his coming and they were reservations. I would say Chelsea did his CV alot of good!
Moyes was never a winner and have never been a winner even in his Everton days

Klopp is a winner, he didn't just win the league twice, but won cup alongside it. You no fit put klopp moyez and Ole for one sentence

Having better players is always favorable as long as you're a good tactician and have good human relationship. And klopp have both, so there's every tendency he would have succeeded in a top club

Tuchel did a good job at Dortmund and PSG, I wasn't part of those who had imaginary issues. Though I didn't like the idea of sacking lampard because Tuchel is available but it is what it is.

Yet Moyes just won Pep in pep cup

Jodera:
Big big Lie!!!
Madrid have always been regarded as a great team esp in Europe wen Mou was the coach!!
Team reaching semifinals from 2011 consecutively and top 2 in the league isn't a great team ??
Haba boss!!

Without those win under Zidane they won't be regarded as one of the greatest teams ever

Jodera:
Lol... It happens.
This thing na why I dey pray make Man u sign Zidane, cos I wan check something

Zidane and Conte would never coach united

Jodera:
Tuchel has beaten Pep 3 times!
I still don't believe he's tactical or better than pep

How many times has Pep beaten Tuchel abi that one no count?

Jodera:
When Your account been debited every week without any source of inflow, no matter how prudent you're, sapa must hold you and with time you go go village.

Now that klopp can hold is best players and attract his choice of players, we can see how deadly his team is

How many year has Klopp managed Liverpool and how many trophies?

AnfieldFan:


For starters, Paul Merson and Timo Werner regard Klopp as the best manager currently...
Now, who rates Zidane higher than Klopp

Stats rates Zidane as a better manager.

Between stats and opinion, which should be regarded as fact?

AnfieldFan:

You're wrong because Bale changed the game while we had Lallana.
That Madrid bench was better than ours...If you say no to this, then I won't quote you regarding this cuz you're obviously biased...

not arguing what bale did or did not do, after all a certain Liverpool fringe CF player help nack barca 4 goal defeat

raumdeuter:


Zidane first tenure. 2.5yrs 3 CL 1 league
Second tenure 1.5yrs 1 league titles
Total 4yrs 3 CL 2 leagues

Mou 3 seasons 1 league title

Pep 8 years 0 ucl

donstan18:

Roma beat a Barca that had Messi and Inesta with old De Rossi and Dzeko.


Zidane made UCl semis and won Laliga without Ronaldo, something Ronaldo won only once before Zidane took charge, when will Ronaldo make Ucl Semis after playing for Zidane.

Zidane dominated Europe and Klopp was one of his victims, tell me when Klopp will ever boss Pep, Zidane and Sevilla to win a a tournament.

Klopp finished 3rd in the premier league and made quarters without his C B's...

Klopp won Barca in the semi finals without Salah, Firmino and a Robertson that got injured minutes into the game...

He beat Bayern on his way to that UCL and the previous season, he got to the finals..
We don't need to talk of what he did with Dortmund in the Champions league

raumdeuter:


Zidane first tenure. 2.5yrs 3 CL 1 league
Second tenure 1.5yrs 1 league titles
Total 4yrs 3 CL 2 leagues

Mou 3 seasons 1 league title

Zidane batter than Pep, yea?

AnfieldFan:


Klopp finished 3rd in the premier league and made quarters without his C B's...

Klopp won Barca in the semi finals without Salah, Firmino and a Robertson that got injured minutes into the game...

He beat Bayern on his way to that UCL and the previous season, he got to the finals..
We don't need to talk of what he did with Dortmund in the Champions league

End product bro? End product!! At the end of all these you listed, what happened? How many of those tournaments did he win?

Jodera:
Lol... It happens.
This thing na why I dey pray make Man u sign Zidane, cos I wan check something

I Dey pray make pep fraudiola sign for a team that can’t give him €200m+ every year, I wan check something

BlueAngel444:
look, they say the pressure in a game makes a team and manager crack, evidence united's last game.

That Madrid final, Zizou's 2nd UCL. Everyone was like no one had won UCL back to back, the pressure was huge, no one would have faulted zidane if he lost it. After all, the great fergie was good at dashing pep UCLs but Zidane got the boys to deliver


If playing a second consecutive UCL wasn't high pressure enough with the whole of Madrid fans, ruthless fan base, then what about playing a third UCL final


Managers complain about players losing motivation, what did Zidane complain about, he didn't even ask for a new signing.
This is the person u na wan compare with Pep, who had Bayern and City best XIs in the world when he got them but failed to make UCL finals in also a decade

Lol... Did you say pressure? Who's even in more pressure/motivation

Madrid for winning the 3rd cl in 4yrs and most of the players having 3 cl medals
Or
Liverpool for winning the cl first time in over 10yrs and most of the players and manager hungry to have a taste of it.

Every fan knows Liverpool were more motivated and under pressure to win the cl than the 3 peat Madrid were chasing. Or is it against Athletico??

Like I said, Zidane have good human relationship (I won't doubt that). I just dey pray make him come man u where there's best of best in coaches let him slug it out head on

Jodera:
Lol... It happens.
This thing na why I dey pray make Man u sign Zidane, cos I wan check something

you will see how improved united midfield will be, and how it will help the defense

AnfieldFan:


Personal decision and mainly because his wife didn't want that at that stage in time....

Better question, why hasn't Pep won the champions league despite spending more than most leagues have spent since he left Messi....
But I don't like stupid questions so I won't continue with this line of questioning...

Pep's wife did not want him to win abi na only Klopp get wife wey sabi want something?

BlueAngel444:
You don't believe Tuchel is better than a guy who built his team with billions and only made one UCL. If city had played Bayern and not PSG in 2020 UCL, who knows how many goals city would have conceded to lose that game.
Pep has a system that suits him and a purse to back him up, but when it comes down to it, having equal teams and making use of tactics to get the edge Tuchel has proven it, even with a lesser rated squad

Lol... But na this same pep win 2 cl in 3yrs even as a rookie... Abi??