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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 2:14pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Kenn55:SEE ME SEE WAHALA IS IT BY FORCE TO BE A NIGERIAN, LOL I didn't start writing about brazil because of pained souls like you, am I writing on your head? Instead of embarrassing yourself why don't you start writing about Nigeria since you love Nigeria so much. I love Brazil and I am patriotic to Brazil and this is why I am writing about this wonderful country. WHAT HAS NIGERIA DONE FOR ME? LET ME TELL YOU NOTHING, ZERO. You are too ignorant, Brazil is my country and I can decide where I want to belong and you can't tell me what do to, if Nigeria is your country good for you, I am loyal to Brazil. I will hawk Brazil more than akara because I am proud of Brazil. Ignorant kids I ready for una, I prepare well, nobody would bully me about brazil like you did to other people like the guy that talked about chile. If you love Nigeria praise Nigeria and stay out of my lane. |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 2:15pm On Oct 31, 2021*. Modified: 2:39pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:Lol you are so ignorant, read the bolded part very well, so Nigerians doing 2jobs are illegal, wonders shall never end Where did I say Brazil pays better than USA professional jobs are you OK? You are slow i swear, if I think every one in the USA is on $7 why did I tell you that different states pay different minimum wage? This is just common sense, I even used $10 to calculate for you. [b]I compared crimes in the USA to crimes in Brazil letting people know that there are crimes in the USA as well By the way we have 60,000 - 120 000 Americans living in Brazil and over 1.5 million Americans living in Mexico LIAR IT SAYS PAY RISE TO $30 AFTER 4 YEARS NOT WITHIN LIKE YOU WANT TO MAKE US BELIEVE, ARE YOU SURE YOU TOOK THAT PICTURE, LOL. PEOPLE LIVING IN AMERICA AND THEIR LIES AND YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF THE CARAVAN PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE DONT SAY THE TRUTH, OR YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF WITHIN AND AFTER? I feel pain I just wasted my time going back and forth with someone that does not even know the difference between after and within. People are coming in caravans because they feel they pick money on the floor in the USA, is that not how you people paint the USA, this is my last response to your ignorance.
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Bifwoli: 2:35pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
walkbrazil4k:There's not one country ,none, zero ,absolute nada ,that is a saint .The point is ...SOME ARE MORE EVIL THAN OTHERS. |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 2:36pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Bifwoli:True talk |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 2:37pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Please stop abeg and stay in your Brazil. You used $7 as your reason why Nigerians work multiple jobs and I’ve shown you no one earns $7. Yes some Nigerian work multiple kind as I said they do not have papers to work so they end up doing menial jobs as they will have to show proof for better jobs. As a Nigerians and educated if I can work at eg Deloitte will I still do 3 jobs? No those who do 3 jobs are menial lowest wage jobs and most because they don’t have papers. An educated Nigerian with papers will get better paying jobs and only have to work 1 job. I live in Chicago and yes there is some gun violence but it happens in a few neighborhoods where gangs operate. The violence is mostly gang on gang. Aren’t there gangs in the slums of Brazil as well? Are you thinking Chicago is worse than the favelas in rio? Really? Yes there is crime in the US no one every claimed there isn’t, it’s reported in the news everyday but it’s all not that you are trying to claim and NO Brazil is not safer. So I ask again why are you using $7 to try to make your point? No one earns $7 unless you are being abused by a wicked boss who knows you have no papers and will threaten to report you to immigration. And FYI many Nigerians do this to their fellow Nigerians. And how many million Mexicans live in the US? Nearly 1.4 million Brazilians live in the US and that does not include illegals so what’s your point? 1.4 million v 60k - 120k, wow what a comparison. Many of the Americans in Mexico retire there due to warmer weather and their pension savings can stretch more, I don’t see what point you’re trying to make. Many Americans in Brazil will work for American companies, many younger people traveling etc. I seriously do not get your point here. walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 2:46pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:So see my point so why would you use the fevela to describe the whole of Brazil? Now you are telling us some part of chicago is deadly and it is the same thing I am telling you ignorant people about brazil don't use the fevela to judge Brazil. I REPEAT BRAZIL IS PERFECTLY SAFE Do you have eye issues? Because you clearly can't read where did I use $7, I used $10 go back and read and stop embarrassjng yourself. A Nigerian in America is supposed to respond to you for saying people do 2 jobs because they are illegal, lol. This is crazy, how you manage enter America? Lol well America visa is easy And no CNN does not show us CRIMES and POVERTY in the USA. I created this thread to compare crimes and not to compare the Brazilian and the American economy and I never said Brazil is safer than the USA, I wonder if you take your time to read properly, I guess you dont I just wasted my time to arguing with someone that can't tell the difference between within and after. Lol
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 2:55pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
The news media always show the issues in the US so that's a lie. The police killings etc ars always reported worldwide. Both countries have experienced increase in crime since covid and here are stats: Brazil mudder rate is 23.6 per 100k while the US jumped from 6 to 7.8 per 100k so again I don't get your point. walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 2:56pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Another example everyone knows about the issue of police killing especially due to racism aspect l so here are numbers for you: in the US a country of over 300 million police killed 1000 civilians, in Brazil a country of just over 200m police killed over 6000 both in 2020 but everyone knows about the US and no one talks about Brazil And you sit there claiming Brazil is perfectly safe. I agree that most of the issues are gang on gang in Brazil and that's the same in many US cities. And it's gangs from various countries operating including Brazil etc that migrate to the US. MS 13 made up of El Salvadoran, Brazilians gangs operate in New York. walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:00pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:My point is there are crimes in the USA and there are crimes in Brazil and people should stop using the favelas to judge Brazil. USA is not a Saint because it is also crime ridden but they hide it. Do you know how many homeless people we have in california?do you know how many people die from gun violence? Do you know we have ghettos and slums in the USA? But CNN would never show us Abeg who know this news channel way you post. Lol I am talking of international new channels like CNN and fox, ok |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:03pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:This is the point and this is why I am educating you about brazil and people can learn from this. We don't have police racist killings in Brazil But we have police killings against drug gangs in the favelas and the innocent get caught up and you know the drug dealers are also armed So the Brazilians killings happens in the favelas and not all Over Brazil.. You get the point now? I am still telling you again or how else would I say this, Brazil is perfectly safe Now you see where my anger is coming from, western media have really painted Brazil bad |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:04pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Blah blah blah no one claimed the US us a saint, no one so stop. Homeless is mainly due to drug abuse etc and me take health which many times is also driven by drug abuse. As a Nigerian who works hard and makes good choices you will be fine sos to using that as proof that. Brazil is better also the homelessnes in Brazilian slums is way off so please stop. And fact there are way more help for homeless in the US than Brazil if they want it. Many times they will not want to stay in shelters etc. Take mental health and drugs out of it people can apply for and get help with housing costs through section 8. Not perfect and there can be wait times but there is some help. What is on offer in Brazil? walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:06pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Again you have also fallen for the media narrative. While there are some racism issues majority of police killings are not racism driven but did to high crime in certain communities. I ask how many Nigerians who work obey the law go to church etc have you heard of that got killed by police? Please name 1? There are certain communities that have a lot of police interaction due to lots or crime and yes there is stereotypes etc but majority are crime related. Keep living to yourself walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:10pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:Lies homelessness is not about drug abuse, are you sure you live in America? Because you clearly don't know anything about America, I don't live in America but I can tell you all, it is simple, research. They always make us belive that it is drug users that end up homeless but that is a big lie, life happens to people and they can't meet up their bills and they end up on the street First you said Nigerians do 2 jobs because they are illegal Now you say homesless people are drug users Hahaha, we have thousands of homeless people all over the USA so why haven't the government helped them? And yes we have homeless people in Brazil but it is worse in the usa Health care is free in brazil and people don't need insurance, so homeless people can get medi care free of charge, is health free in America? |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:14pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:Read your own screenshot because if you did you would see favela there and it means ghetto and it was a shoot out and innocent people would surely get hit We don't have racist police killings in brazil like you have in the USA. [b][/b] We have police officers fighting drug dealers in the favelas |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:19pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
And in the US it's in the nice areas? No it's mostly in the hood where there are gangs and crime as I said. It's not right but a lot more needs to be done to stoo the interactions in the first place through education etc before they fall into a life or crime. Again there are way more blacks killed in Brazil so please stop being so sanctimonious. And this is contrary to you claim of Brazil being PERFECTLY safe. walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:25pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Because they do not want help. Here in Chicago when it gets very cold they move to shelters but summer comes they leave and return to the street and the government can't force them. This is a big issue no doubt but one that is being spoken about. No American will tell you there is no homeless issue there is, but it affects all countries even Canada which is seem as a very liberal economy they have high homelessness. Yes I give you the free medicine that's is great but the poor also get government covered medical in the US. The gap is those who do not earn low enough of the threshold and do not get insurance through employers. And again this is an issue everyone talks about, no one is claiming it's not an issue You on the other hand are trying to pain Brazil as heaven claiming PERFECTLY safe etc when it is not walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:26pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Yes you do,people are protesting racist killing in Brazil and you sit here claiming no racist killing. Please stop. Yes Brazil is a good country with some things going for it but stop the unnecessary comparison that no one asked you for . You have a good life in Brazil and that's fine, many others have good lives in the US and many other countries so that's fine as well. walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:28pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:Black's killed are in the favalas and not like the USA where police can just kill anyone in a traffic stop[b]was George F killed in the hood[/b]? We don't have favelas everywhere in Brazil and that is where Black people get killed do you understand? Black people live in the favelas and drug dealers as well and when police to in there to raid they kill drug dealers and innocent black people because majority of people living in the favalas are black, do you get it now? Brazil is perfectly safe |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:30pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:We don't have racist police killings in Brazil We don't have driving while black in brazil People protest in rio because they see the favalas killings as racism but ask yourself if the drug gand are not in the favalas would the police just go in there and start killing black people? |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:30pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
The hypocrisy in this post is alarming. Seriously alarming. Please check your privilege ![]() Floyd was actually in the hood and no they should not have killed him, totally wrong and I am glad the officers are in jail but again he also is an example of what I am talking about when certain actions and life choices result in higher interactions with the police. I'll leave it there Another example of what I mean the shooting of Laquan McDonald in Chicago was a big issues a few years ago. And I totally agree the police should have done more to resolve the situation without killing but there are major questions to be asked as to why a teenager was out on the street at that time of the night with a knife and this is what I mean when I say lot more needs to be done to prevent those interactions in the first place. I don't see how different it is from the black killing in Brazil, poverty and high crime is the main driver here and it's the same in the US it's just the poverty looks different ad they live in tub down slums in Brazil and the hood is a hit better in the US but still bad and crime ridden. I also mentioned stereotype and this applies to both countries, police called to certain neighborhood in Chicago already have a not then again attitude and same in Brazil I'm sure if they have to go to the favalas. I'm not saying it's right, it is not but I'm saying the issues are the same maybe a bit better in the US as there is a difference in what is deemed poverty in both counties. You can agree poverty is worse in Brazil right or you went to claim otherwise? walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:39pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
On one hand you claim Brazil is PERFECTLY safe on the other hand you claim favalas are full of crime and drug dealers, which is it or they are not part of Brazil? walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 3:47pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:See me see wahala, do you understand something at all, ok let me show you the map of Brazil, just like you talked about Chicago having some deadly parts it is the same thing that I am telling you, we don't have favelas all over Brazil, look at the map and tell Me the whole of Brazil is not safe, really, don't judge Brazil because of the favelas the same way you don't want me to judge Chicago
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:49pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Leaving this here for you https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2020/10/22/diversity-in-brazil-is-still-just-an-illusion walkbrazil4k:
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 3:51pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
By that logic the US is perfectly safe then isn’t it? In fact every country on earth is perfectly safe based on your criteria so again what’s your point? Even Syria with war has areas less unaffected so based on your logic Syria is perfectly safe. Anyway as I said Brazil is a good country that has some things going for it. if you have a good life there that’s amazing, but we don’t need to unwarranted constant posts comparing. There is a reason many more people move to the US companies to Brazil including Brazilians as I showed you over 1.4 million compared to 60k Americans many of which are probably expats wondering with American companies. And this is despite all the well known issues the US has. If you truly want to be helpful why not tell people how you moved to Brazil, how you got your visa, how you got a job etc rather than US is this Brazil is that. walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 4:39pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:You can screenshot all you want, you can't compare racism in the USA to racism in Brazil |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 4:43pm On Oct 31, 2021*. Modified: 5:07pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:You dare not tell me what to post on a public forum, who you be? Are you OK? How about you tell people how you got to the USA? Your IQ is low because you could not even tell the difference between within and after. You are pained because you see someone that is not worshipping America, lol America is safe and Brazil is also safe, they both have crimes Lies normal Americans live in Brazil and they don't work for any American company Brazil is a great country that has many things going for it. Do you have free health care in America? America is not heaven stop the lies
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| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:Aside from the pay in the USA and cheap cars usa is not better than Brazil, free health una no get, even Sweden is better than America, infact many countries are better than American |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 5:22pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
As I said America is not heaven and no one even said that. Same as Brazil Anyway on a devious note what visa are you on? How did you get your visa? What do you do in Brazil? How is the wage you earn? This will help a lot of People walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 6:16pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:Stop talking down on other people's country while praising America because America is not heaven because you also have crime and poverty in America what visa are you on? How did you get your visa? What do you do in the usa? How is the wage you earn? This will help a lot of People |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 6:51pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
I have not talked any country down. I said and say again Brazil is a great country but it is not heaven as you claim and to many it is not better then the US. I already talked about homelessness and crime in America so I never said it doesn't exist, you are the one claiming Brazil is perfectly safe and amazing. If you're happy there that's totally fine and nothing wrong with that hence why I asked you to share how you got there etc. for others to benefit. In all honesty I am not asking to make fun or anything I am truly saying focus on that as it will be more beneficial than trying to prove America is evil and Brazil is better or whatever it is you are trying to prove. So again I ask: - What visa are you on? - How did you get the visa and move to Brazil? - What do you do there? - What are the wages to expenses like because I know have friends in Brazil some who were my colleagues from Deloitte who moved to Deloitte Brazil and what I know is in the major cities expenses such as housing is very expensive when you compare to income so your insight will be valuable to those interested. walkbrazil4k: |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by Nobody: 7:30pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
ttmacoy:The political America is worse than the devil and we can see what they have done to other countries and what they are still doing but I don't want to go into the political side of America and like the title of the topic says I am comparing crimes to let people know that the angel America is also crime ridden. Brazil is a safe country and the favelas does not represent Brazil America is a great country but they always hide the true America and this is why people would keep on flooding your borders The point that I have made is to let people know that there are crimes everywhere and Brazil is safe unlike what the western media always show us. And Brazil have some benefits that America don't have and America have benefits that Brazil don't have, you get it? Eg free health care I can't tell you things that I have talked about and nobody can tell me what to do, I can say whatever I want to say when I want to say it, so you can answer the question so people can learn from you on how to get to America and get a job that would pay $30/hour after 4years,lol |
| Re: Crime Statistics Between Brazil And The Usa (photos) by ttmacoy: 9:00pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Chief ok Brazil is great we have heard. Why not educate us more on how you got there, what visa type, what type of job etc? Btw the free healthcare you keep harping about also has its issues including quality of care. Do you agree that rich Brazilians either go to private hospitals or pay for insurance due to this? As I said the main issue with the US and healthcare are those that fall in the crack with no insurance and even that Gap closed significantly with Obamacare. Those who earn under a certain threshold are covered by Medicare. Anyway we have heard Brazil is amazing now educate us on things that matter rather than proving US is evil. We have heard US is evil and crime ridden and Brazil is perfectly safe. walkbrazil4k:
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