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Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 4:36pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Antichristian I mentioned you before and you didn't reply. This is your last chance or else I don't want to see you on christian threads saying rubbish. Come and defend your moloch that you bow down towards the east to worship. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by Kingpin1000: 4:39pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Oil dey your head. But the bias MODs will ban you |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by AntiChristian: 12:36pm On Nov 11, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: Stop telling lies! Moloch is a Canaanite deity associated in Biblical sources with the practice of child sacrifice! I have never sacrificed any child and i worship no Moloch! O Christian liar, stop telling lies! Are this people worshipping Moloch by bowing too? 1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed Matthew 26:39 2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3) 3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17) 4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34: 5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6) 6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22) 7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6) 8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14) 9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9: 10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18) 11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13) |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 4:24pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Antichristian, the above verses does not make sense and hold water cos anybody can bow down to anything and claim to be bowing down to G-D. Well, let's start by analyzing them bits by bits but quran first ordered y'all to face Jerusalem and then again ordered worshippers to face the sun, quran is full of confusion. Let's start with Sura 72 that is titled jinns and here are short quotes. Muslims claim that the Koran contains the words of Allah, 100%, but No one should take a jinns claim seriously, that some of them are righteous,î Sura 72:11. Satan is the father of lies (John 19:44), so why should we believe what his Jinns said in the Koran? Jinns, like their Master (Satan), are liars. To deceive us, they gather half-baked truths into bundles of lies. That demons and Satan are barred from the true heaven forever is indicated from their own confession in verses 8-9. There they admit that they unsuccessfully tried to storm heaven but met opposition from stern-looking angelic guards. Even their attempt to spy at heaven was foiled as they admit in verse 9. The true nature and root of Islam is revealed in verse 14 when the jinns, (whom the Bible God cast out of heaven) became Muslims and found a refuge in Islam. Among us [jinns-demons] are some that submit wills (to God) [i.e. Muslims] and some that swerve from justice. Now those who submit their wills [demonic Muslims] they sought out [the path] of right conduct. (Sura 72, Jinn, 14). |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 4:31pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
God forbid that I should belong to the same religion that the archenemies of God, the demons, also profess. Who could sponsor a religion that includes Godís arch-enemies, i.e. the jinns (demons)? Only Satan posing as Allah would do so. Before their conversion, the evil spirits confessed what was later to be a central theme of Islam, that Allah has neither taken a wife nor had a son (72:3). It is clear at this point that while posing as the angel Gabriel and claiming to be from Allah, one of these jinns (demons), gave Muhammad a denial of the sonship of Christ and the fatherhood of God. This blatant falsehood is repeated over twenty times in the Koran. Bearing in mind the Satanic verses incident, one must acknowledge that the devil can impersonate a holy angel. (2 Corinthians 11:13-15). As an interesting note, when Muhammad received his first ìrevelations,î he was not sure of the source of them himself. His wife (Khadija) convinced him that they must have come by the angel Gabriel.1 Muhammadís encounter with the jinns (demons) is also recorded in another sura, Sura 46, Al-Ahqaf, 29-32: 29: ìBehold, we turned towards the company of jinns [quietly] listening to the Koran; when they stood in thy presence thereof, they said ëListen in silence!í when the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn [them of their sins]. 30: They said, O our people! we have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: It guides [men] to the truth and to straight path. 31: O our people hearken to the one who invite [you] to God, and believe in him: He will forgive you your faults, and deliver you from a penalty grievous. 32: If any does not hearken to the one who invites [us] to God, he cannot frustrate [Godís plan] on earth, and no protectors can he have besides God; such men [wonders] in manifest errors.íî These are admissions, within the Koran, that Muhammad had actual contacts with demons. This encounter is believed to have taken place at a time Muhammad lost his first wife, Khadija, and his uncle, Abu Talib, who had been protecting him all along. Muhammad tried to seek refuge in Taif, a village on the hilly side of Mecca, but the villagers rejected him, and he slipped out to the desert where the jinns (demons) met with him as he recited the Koran. This second sura, dealing with the same event as in Sura Jinn, goes so far as to reveal that the jinns (demons), after listening to the Koran, began to proclaim it to others. In other words, demons became missionaries for Islam. Their support for the Koran shows that the jinns and Islam are inseparable. The conversion of seventy three Yatrib (Medina) pagans to Islam, before the Prophet Muhammad even set foot there, cannot be unconnected with the evangelistic activities of faithful jinns (demons). As expert whisperers, demons whispered to villagers, îLo! we have heard a wonderful recitation, [i.e. the Koran], so believe it (Sura 46:31). Obviously, demons played a crucial role in the formation of Islam, and today they are playing a significant role in its spread. The jinnís are true Muslims!. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by AntiChristian: 10:44am On Nov 13, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: You people are plain ignorant! If you believe Angels could rebel God (which i don't believe) why can't Jinns be good/ bad ? And why lie that Muslims face the sun when praying? Did the Holy Spirit make you lie? |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 11:46am On Nov 13, 2021 |
AntiChristian: You've not addressed the main issue o, you're drifting. Ewwww |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by AntiChristian: 11:48am On Nov 13, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: What's the main issue? Jinn are like human as they can be righteous or otherwise! And that you lied by saying we face the sun! |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 7:26pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Lol. What a confusionist, jinns that we all know are demons and how did they turn to become humans. Kindly explain these verses below Surat al-Baqara: From whencesoever thou startest forth, turn thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque, that is indeed the truth from thy Lord. And God is not unmindful of what ye doî (Sura 2:149). And still in another verse, the same command is rendered thus: We see the turning of thy face [for guidance] to the heavens: now shall we turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque: whenever ye are, turn your faces in that direction (Sura 2:144) |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 7:31pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
From te Bible of our G-D, we all know we were told and we understand that The Children of Israel experienced the lovingkindness of Yahweh (God) in the wilderness; they witnessed His miracles. They knew it was not the sun in the sky that delivered them from Egypt, nor the sun that parted the Red Sea for them or provided them with manna during their wilderness wanderings. To the Israelites, the sun was but a symbol, and yet in the quote above they were bowing down to it. God who judges the intents of the heart, knew their hearts. He condemned their act and called it an abomination. But what is the Islamic attitude towards a similar practice? Allah is alleged to have handed down the following command, as recorded in Surat al-Baqara above. The reader should notice that Muslims were previously commanded to turn their faces towards Jerusalem when praying. What the speaker is saying in the above sura is that they should change to Mecca. In the preface of the book entitled IslamñThe First and Final Religion, page V, the author tries his best to defend the usual Islamic argument that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaíaba for the worship of Allah.1 Whether that claim is true or false is not the point. The Islamic Abraham is alleged to have been guilty of shirk (idolatry), so it is not surprising if it is also claimed that he built Kaíaba. That author went on to say that Muslims do not really worship or bow to Kaíaba, that the Kaíaba is only a symbol. That argument is not convincing at all. Why should anyone bow towards Kaíaba in the first place? If God detests bowing towards a sun that was made by Him, bowing towards a Kaíaba made by man would definitely be worse, even if it was built by Abraham. Is the command to face Kaíaba a test? (Sura 2:145). Does God test people with idolatry? Why do Muslims run round the Kaíaba, and even go as far as kissing it during their ìholyî pilgrimage?2 History tells us that Arabian pagans performed this ritual before Islam. It is said that the first Khalifah of Islam, Abu Bakr, when kissing the black stone (of all the colors available under heaven, why they chose black is not without significance) said, ìOf a truth, I know that you are nothing but a stone and can do nothing good or harm. Had I not seen the apostle of Allah kiss you, I would never kiss youî (Cf. Rafique, Kinsmen of Abraham, P. 19). Worthy of note is the fact that after the signing of the treaty of al-Hudybiyah (7 A.H.)3 ñ while the Kaíaba was still housing those 360 idols. Muhammad performed the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca. The conquest of Mecca didnít take place for another year, (8 A.H.). Muslims want the world to believe that the Kaíaba was sanctified (purged) because some of the physical idols were done away with. But religious matters go far beyond the physical world S powerful spiritual forces are involved. The Bible teaches that an idol is nothing in itself. What happens is that Satan stations demons (jinns) in venerated objects to influence peopleís minds. If you destroy the objects (idols), the demons (jinns), associated with those objects donít just vanish into thin air. Some demons are quite territorial, and will remain at the place where they were worshiped.1 So what happened to the demons that stood behind idols that used to be at the Kaíaba? Who is in the Kaíaba now? Is it Allah, or some displaced jinns?2 Ask yourself, if Allah is omnipresent (i.e. present everywhere) why does one need to face in a particular direction to pray, and in the direction of a black stone for that matter? ìO ye who believe! intoxicants and gambling, [dedication of] stones and [divination by] arrows are an abomination, - of Satanís handiwork: eschew such [abomination], that ye may prosperî (Sura 5:93). So the Koran teaches no dedication of stones, right? Well, what about the Kaaba, which is also known as the black stone. If I were still a Muslim, I wouldnít know what to believe, because another revelation in the same Koran tells us that Kaíaba is not only to be venerated, but also the small hills of Safa and Marwa: ìBehold! Safa and Marwa are among the symbols of God. So if those who visit the house [Kaíaba] in the season or at other times, should compass them round, it is no sin in themî (Sura 2:158). Which symbol? Does Allah look like Kaíaba or Safa or Marwa? Historically, the idolatrous significance of these hills was so strong that early Muslims were reluctant to run round them at all. Hence the ìrevelationî sanctioning the practice. Since Allah also ordered the worship of a mere man, Adam (Sura 7:11-13; 38:72-77), his command for Muslims to venerate stones and hills should come as no surprise.1 What about the astrological symbol of crescent and star? How Islam came upon and accepted those occult symbols is best known only to Allah and his jinns. What about the string of beads that Muslims use in their prayers? I used to be a Muslim, myself. My goal in this review of Islam is to point out the falsity of these abominations to unsuspecting worshipers. It is for the people who were made to memorize everything but have no way of knowing the truth or error of what they have learned. The aim of this book is achieved if, after reading it, you are (by Gods grace), freed from this snare of the devil. Sacred hills, sacred stones and prayer beads are but institutionalized idolatry. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 7:42pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
There is a reference in the Bible book of Zechariah that some believe to be about Islam and the Kaaba. It is written in figurative language, but the intent of the passage is plain enough. Notes within the Bible quote are in bold Zec 5:7-11 Again he said, This is their appearance in all the land (and behold, a lead cover was lifted up); and this is a woman sitting inside the ephah (Ephah was a son of Midian whose name meant darkness. [See Holmans Bible Dictionary] An ephah may also be a small basket). Then he said, This is Wickedness!. And I said to the angel who was speaking with me, Where are they taking the ephah (the darkness or the basket of darkness?)? Then he said to me, To build a temple for her in the land of Shinar (in Zechariahs time, the Land of Shinar included Arabia); and when it is prepared, she will be set there on her own pedestal (the Kaaba?).. There is a now a pedestal in Mecca, dedicated to Allah, that all Muslims revere. And the people who worship Allah, are they not in great spiritual darkness. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image . . . nor bow down to them. (Exodus 20:4). THOU means everybody, including Abraham! And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues, yet repented not from the works of their hands that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stones, and of wood; which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk; neither repented they of their murders, or of their sorceries, nor of their fornication nor of their theft (Revelation 9:20-21). Will ye not also repent? If you will not because you were born and bred in the religion, then hear the fate that awaits you: And the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and they have no rest day nor night who worship the beast [through false religions] and his image . . . (Revelation 14:11). He stated that God, being a spirit, is everywhere. We may only worship Him in spirit and in truth. Jesus saith believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshiper shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:21-24). If we accept that kissing the foot of a man is abomination, then every right-thinking mind should admit that running round and kissing a lifeless structure as the Kaaba is one of the worst abominations under the sun. Of a truth, religion outside Christ is religious paganism. False gods will always beget false religions. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 7:49pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
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Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 8:13pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
WHO IS allah? Muslims use the remotest language possible to describe Allah. They try to make him as transcendent as possible in order to discourage people from conducting research on him. If you ask a Muslim to define Allah, he will just beat about the bush, ascribing attributes to him that neither belong to him nor befit him. But Allah is not as mysterious as Islam would like the world to believe. He has been at the Kaaba stone all along. Certainly, Christians have not prayed enough to displace him and we may never do so until he meets his doom in the valley of Megiddo. Some say that the word Allah was or is derived from the Syriac Alaha. But the name Allah was in existence long before Islam. That is evidenced from the name Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) ñ the name of Muhammadís father. The question is this: To whom was this name originally revealed? Certainly none of the Biblical prophets ever referred to it. There is absolutely no trace of that name in the Bible. It is Arabic, not Israelite. But in the mind of Islamic scholars, anything (negative or positive) done to further the cause of Islam is justifiable, so they can lie and claim that the name of Allah was revealed to Adam, Abraham or even Ishmael. Lies can be told about those patriarchs because they have been dead a long time and arenít around to refute any false claims. And they never leave Abraham alone. In pre-Islamic Arabia, that Muslims now refer to as Al-Jahiliya, meaning a period of ignorance, the Arabians were grossly paganistic. In and around Kaíaba, the Arabs worshiped 360 idols. Each clan had their own particular idols to worship. It is provable that Allah was one of the 360 idols that Muhammadís Hashimite clan worshiped. Muhammadís grandfather, Abdul Muttalib, was the leader of Mecca and a custodian of Kaabas 360 idols. The Koran confirms that he was a pagan. The names that Muhammad grandfather gave his children are further proof that Muhammad was from a family of idol devotees. Muhammads father was named Abdullah, meaning servant of Allah. The name of Muhammadís uncle was Abdul Manaf, meaning servant of Manaf. His other name was Abu Talib, meaning father of Talib. This is indisputable proof that Allah and Manaf were clannish idols worshiped by Muhammad and his people. Islamic scholars try to hide the historic fact that Muhammad worshiped idols before and after he claimed to be a prophet. But they canít do away with the record of the Koran itself. That Muhammad was later fascinated by the monotheistic creed of jews and Nestorian Christians is beyond question. He encountered many of them at Mecca and on his business trips to Syria. His wife, Khadija, was a Catholic, as was Waraqa ibn Naufal, his secret tutor. Now, Muhammad wanted to unite the Arab race under a theocratic setting, but there was no way he could carry along all those 360 idols, so Muhammad decided to pick from among the idols of his clan. Naturally he picked Allah, the idol for which his father was named. Any of the idols would have served; an idol is an idol. It is the demon behind an idol that deceives the mind and heart. Those who try to single out Allah and deify him above the other Meccan idols should remember that Muhammad could just as easily have picked Manaf, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, or any of the others; and his choice didnít win the support of everyone, including his uncle, Abdul Manaf. That is clear from the fact that Abdul didnít submit to Allah and Islam until his death. He held on to Manaf. This elevation of one idol over the other 359 angered the other Meccan clans. The purported persecution of Muhammad was nothing but an inter-tribal or inter-clannish quarrel over whose idol should be or whose should not be venerated. In the same vein, the Koran was written in Muhammadís dialect (Quraish). To pacify the other tribes, Muhammad told them (with concocted ìrevelationsî) that the preserved tablet in heaven was written in Quraish. The world was then asked to swallow the Islamic lie that all the Kaaba idols were destroyed. It just isn't true. About four of those idols are said to remain. The custodians of Kaaba should open the stone to independent inspectors should anyone dispute this. Just as Islam led 1.2 billion Muslims and even some ignorant Christians to believe that Jesus is Isa or Esau, so it has tried to make the world believe that Allah is God. But there is no link between Allah and the Bible God, who revealed His name to be Yahweh, or the I AM.1 Websters New Collegiate Dictionary calls the name of the true God a Tetragrammaton, which means that it is made up of four letters. Those Hebrew letters are transliterated YHWH or JHVH. They are usually pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah. Yahweh means the ìIAM.îThat name defines G-ds eternal being and divine nature: The only true, almighty, personal, holy God, and ìthe Father of spirits (Numbers 16:22, cf. John 4:24), The God who revealed Himself to His people, made a covenant with them, became their law giver, to Whom all honor and worship is due. If Godís name was really Allah, why didnít He give that name to the prophet Moses or to any of the other Old Testament prophets? Why didnít Jesus ever hint that God might have a name different than the one already revealed to the prophets? The Supreme Being is eternal isnít He? If God is without beginning or end, isnít His name also eternal and unchanging? Of course, but if the Koran is correct, then nobody knew God's name before Muhammad, and God didnít know what He was talking about when He told Moses that His name was ìI AM that I AM.î It was at the burning bush that God revealed Himself to Moses as the ìI AMî (Exodus 3:14). ìI AMî portrays His eternal existence, with no beginning and no end. He is the only eternal God, there is no other. There is no room for any usurper idol, no matter what he calls himself. The name Allah does not belong to the true God, but to an Arabian idol. But there is more. When Jesus called Himself ìI AMî in John 8:58, He said in effect that He is the same ìI AMî who spoke to Moses at the burning bush. The Jews understood exactly what Jesus meant, and tried to stone Him for it (John 8:59). They knew that Jesus was declaring Himself to be the final, perfect and practical revelation of true God. The prophet Isaiah knew it, too, when he called Jesus ìEmanuel,î meaning God with us.î This is not polytheism, God the Father and Jesus His Son are one Being, one essence. Jesus said: John 10:30 I and My Father are One. 1 Like |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 8:20pm On Nov 17, 2021 |
Continuation from above This is the only true and eternal God. All others are idols or imagined gods. 1 I can hear some of you screaming, ìHa! That isnít so; Allah is just another name for God. Arabs worship the same God we do, under a different name.î That view is held by many misinformed people, but it is wrong. Granted, Allah is the Arabic term for their god, but is Allah the name of the sovereign and almighty God who created the universe? Aside from Muhammad (whose prophethood the Islamic scholars have yet to prove) there is no record anywhere on earth of God having spoken through Arabs. In fact, the Bible says just the opposite. The last book of the Bible was written at the end of the 1st century. One of its final statements is: Rev 22:18 . . . If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. Isnít that what Muhammad did? Didnít he claim to be a prophet long after God commanded that no one should add to His already revealed Word? So what does this prove, that an entire race can be wrong in their conception of deity? Well, the Bible says, ìLet God be true, but every man a liar, (Romans 3:4). This means that anything written that is counter to Godís Word is a lie. Since the supreme Being has told us that His name is Yahweh, the I AM whoever claims His name is something else has been influenced by the devil (John 8:44). You would think Christians would distance themselves from anyone who believes that God didnít know His own name, but such is not the case. The Christians of Hausa stock worship and praise Allah. So long as Christians bow to Allah, victory over Islam will not happen. Little wonder that mission efforts among Muslims have had little effect. One who names the name of Christ and bows down to any false god, by whatever name, is just asking for the enemy to brand the number 666 on his forehead. Didn't Scripture forewarn us of this danger? Yes indeed: And he opened his mouth (the dragon inspired beast) in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.î (Revelation 13:6, It is really blasphemy to slander the concept of the fatherhood of God and deity of Jesus Christ His Son. Those who do so, donít really know God. The above quote is very clear: everyone whose name is not written in Jesusí book of life is worshiping Satan (the dragon). The list of those in the dragonís clutches is endless. It includes Muslims, hypocritical Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Hari Krishna, Rosicrucians, Satanists, drug addicts, homosexuals, rapists, pornographers, those who dabble into the occult and anyone else who turns away from Jesus, the Son of God. Many Christians unwittingly worship the dragon in one way or the other. Some even sing choruses with Allahís name. If you call yourself a Christian and continue to revere Allah, then something is desperately wrong with your understanding of Christianity. The true God is a jealous God who will not tolerate the worship of any but Him. The Old Testament nation of Israel was destroyed because they worshiped other gods, and God has not changed. Maybe you are really sealed with Allah's seal with a 666" on your forehead, or maybe your name is not in the Lambs book of life a Christless Christian worshiping the dragon. (Rev. 13:. Some yet argue that the Allah the Christians worship is different from the Allah of the Muslims. They say that Christians and Muslims differ in their understanding of the character of Allah. But who has a greater claim to Allah than the Muslims, and how many Allah are there? Many who call themselves Christians are a kind of Rachel in Christian disguise. In the same way, many so-called Christians who donít have a correct understanding of the God of the Bible go a-whoring after the Islamic god of allah. They use every argument under heaven to justify their spiritual bankruptcy, but to no avail. Arguments that do not agree with Godís Word, no matter how logical they may seem, will only lead to strong delusion. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie (2Thess. 2:10-11). The translators of the Hausa Bible have aggravated the problem. They substituted the name Allah for Yahweh, thereby bringing many Christians under the influence of the dragon. Some are of the opinion that before the name ìAllahî was used in the Hausa Bible, scholars must have done extensive research to support their position. But no kind of research excuses an inaccurate Bible translation. God knew what His name was when He inspired the Bible, and He gave nobody the authority to change it. Truth is not discovered through human research, no matter how scholarly, but by divine enlightenment through the exact Word of God. Rest assured that any Bible translator who confused Allah with Yahweh was not inspired by God to do so. 1 Like |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by AntiChristian: 8:02am On Nov 18, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: Jinns are creatures like humans. We can't see them. Some are righteous while others are not. Where did i say they turn in to human? They can possess human or carry their shape/form. Kindly explain these verses below Where does it say Muslim face the sun as you claim in these verses? You just proved yourself a liar. 1 Like |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by LordReed(m): 8:39am On Nov 18, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: Your Christian Bible is full of fables too. In fact I am yet to encounter a religion that is not full of fables. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:04am On Nov 18, 2021 |
LordReed: Come with proof biko as I've done above and I'll still be doing, is it the 72 virgins in Aljana or the one that koran said that all Muslims will first go to hell before they'll be shipped on a thin thread to aljana Awhere wine and women will be plenty and you can decide to divorce the 72 virgins and order for fresh ones? Or the jinns that peeped into heaven and was chased back or when muhammed's daughter fatima asked her father about her place in the hereafter and he said he doesn't know where he was going to “Say: I am no bringer of newfangled doctrine among theand our Lord JESUS CHRIST had aor where mohammed admitted that he had contacts with demons?. Or mohammed hiring assassins to kill his enemies and saying allah sent him ( he obviously did cos he's an Idol just as OGUN, SANGO, OBATALA, ORUNMILA is cos these latter are more revered and better than allah.) You can't even read half of what I wrote cos appolyon and moloch are really doing wonders in y'all's life. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:06am On Nov 18, 2021 |
AntiChristian: You keep decieving yourself, I've showed you the verses and explain them and you've curved away from it and btw, the jinns that are unseen humans, how come did allah create unseen humans like you. This your delusion is too much just as your alfas summon them for rituals. Ewwwe |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by LordReed(m): 9:49am On Nov 18, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: Is it the stories of turning water to wine or multiplying bread and fish that you believe are true? Or is it how a person lived in a fish for 3 days and was spat unto land? Or is it a global flood that was survived by 8 people in a wooden boat with 2 of all the animals in the world? Which of these would you like to show me evidence of? |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by AntiChristian: 11:15am On Nov 18, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: Abeg how old are you that you are this childish? You said we worship the sun without proof! You are a liar! Where did i say Jinns are humans? Does saying a Jinn is like a human mean a Jinn is a human? Go back and learn comparison; use of "as" and "like" in sentences. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by 1000angstroms(m): 4:44pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
Make una no do eye like una no see this... |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by dalass(f): 8:14pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
1000angstroms: Why the mention? |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by orisa37: 7:19am On Nov 21, 2021 |
All Scriptures are from above and are good for Learning. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:11am On Nov 22, 2021 |
AntiChristian: G-D forbid me to be in the same place with demons. Even the koran said they peeped through into heaven and they didn't even get close to heaven and tell me how righteous they are? Lol. Stop being sensible by half, i gave you the suras where it was mentioned and told you to explain them and you refused and you're still running around or do you want me to explain the suras for you? |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:14am On Nov 22, 2021 |
LordReed: Even mohamed didn't come close, what he converted was pple's wives and properties that's why he died of poison by a Jewish woman. Ignoramus, abeg bring the verses and not just half cos I know the power of G-D and it happened in the biblical days and I wholly believe they happened. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by LordReed(m): 9:17am On Nov 22, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: Dundee United. Where is the evidence? |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:28am On Nov 22, 2021 |
orisa37: Oga don't bring that here cos koran is full of fabbles to the extent some of the verses are from PIRKE RABBI ELIEZER go and read it pls. Then God sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame [corpse] of his brother (Sura 5:34). Sura 5:34 quoted above is similar to stories in a Jewish book of fables, where it is recorded that Adam wept for Abel and did not know what to do with his corpse until he saw a raven scratch the ground and bury its dead companion (Pirke Rabbi Eliezer, chapter 21). In the Koran, it is Cain who saw the raven and in the Jewish book of fables, it is Adam. Apart from that slight difference; the weird similarity between the two narratives cannot be overlooked. Since the Jewish book predates the Koran, it appears that Muhammad (with the aid of his secretaries) plagiarized the story and made a convenient adjustment that would fit his divine revelation. This conclusion is reinforced when we consider the very next verse in the Koran: On that account: we ordained for the children of Israel that if any man slew a person ñ unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land ñ it would be as if he slew the whole people and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people (Sura 5:35) At first glance, this verse seems to have no link with the preceding story. Why the life or death of one should be as the salvation or destruction of all mankind is unclear. But when we turn to another Jewish book of folklore we find a similar tale. We read the following in the Mishnah translated by H. Danby: We find it is said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother: The voice of thy brotherís blood criethí (Genesis 4:10). It is not said here blood in the singular but blood in the plural, that is, his own blood and the blood of his seed. Man was created single in order to show that to him who kills a single individual it shall be reckoned that he has slain that whole race, but to him who preserves the life of a single individual, it is counted that he hath preserved the whole race. (Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5). In the reasoning of the Jewish rabbi who wrote these words, the use of the plural blood in the Bible indicates not only the blood of one man but that of his whole progeny. Whether the Rabbi's speculative interpretation is right or not, is not the issue. The issue is this: why should a koran that is alleged to have been revealed by allah contain a corrupted restatement of an existing rabbinical interpretation of a Biblical passage? The Koranic story of Abraham is patterned after the Biblical account, but when it digresses, the departure can usually be traced to Jewish fables. For instance, the Koran narrates a story about Abrahamís father and his idolatrous community. According to the Koran, Abraham (the monotheist) is alleged to have destroyed all the idols except the chief one. When questioned as to who broke the idols, he mockingly told them to inquire from the spared idol as to what happened to the rest. This made the mob angry and they supposedly threw Abraham into burning fire, but allah made the fire cool and rescued him from their evil plot. This story is recorded in Sura 21, Al-Anbiya, 51-70. As expected, that is a story with striking similarities to one recorded in Jewish folklore. Incidentally, this fable was built around a mistranslation of a Hebrew word in Genesis 15:7. A Jewish scribe by the name Jonathan Ben Uzziel mistook Ur for Or (meaning fire), and rendered the verse I am the Lord who brought you out of the fire of the Chaldeans. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:30am On Nov 22, 2021 |
1000angstroms: Them don blind cos this one strong pass them. I don bring concrete evidence, they don run, even antichristian wey mumu pass all of them. |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 9:45am On Nov 22, 2021 |
LordReed: Lol. Read the whole thread and read below. I'll give you history of your religion and I'll advise you to worship OGUN cos G-D will understand. Who you think your father (BIN HA RI's) regime can never be better? He went to the kaaba to visit and honor moloch and his regime can never be good. In the face of this perceived Jewish threat, Muhammad first |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by LordReed(m): 9:56am On Nov 22, 2021 |
thatsleepboy1: I said you're a dundee, who told you I am a Muslim? |
Re: Islam Is Full Of Fables And Not From G-D by thatsleepboy1: 10:10am On Nov 22, 2021 |
LordReed: Lol. You no longer a Muslim but an allah worshipper or an atheist? Mtcheeeeeeeew!! The truth is in front of you, embrace it bikọ. |
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