Janosky:


Did you understand the screenshot you are posting on this forum?
Over 36,000 were expelled from JEHOVAH's service because of sexual immorality, sexual abuse in obedience to 1 Corinthians 5:9-12 Psalms 97:10.

Yippee, are you obeying 1 Corinthians 5:9-12 and Psalms 97:10?

Until you provide evidence that your Christendom expelled 30,000 because of sexual immorality, you are a hypocrite.

Continue WAILING and make empty rants.

That my lies are your TRUTH

Janosky:

Achorladey provided the screenshot evidence that those ones were expelled because of their disobedience to Psalms 97:10 & 1Corinthians 5:9-13

Good you are putting attestation, stamps and seals my lies are now stamped, sealed and attested truths you use to help others see the kind of organisation you belong. Good for you Mr Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLER

Yippeedaniel:




Jw also do wife swapping.. Abeg make person explain the meaning. Wife swapping.. Like collect person wife or take and return?

E get as e be. You see some of them saying it is rumours lies and false stories to downplay it.

When they can go as far as denying what was written in their publications. Then one can only expect the unexpected. Even prominent members amongst them are FAKES going by their comments here. The reason you see them coming here to say they look upon their fellow brothers and sisters with SUSPICION because some of them are Hypocrites aka FAKES.

achorladey:


E get as e be. You see some of them saying it is rumours lies and false stories to downplay it.

When they can go as far as denying what was written in their publications. Then one can only expect the unexpected. Even prominent members amongst them are FAKES going by their comments here. The reason you see them coming here to say they look upon their fellow brothers and sisters with SUSPICIONS because some of them are HYPOCRITES.

All Jw's are fake. Even MaxInDHouse. His fake too. His only doing all this things on NL to count hours of preaching.

Janosky:


You have ZERO moral authority to point accusing fingers at JWs.
Continue your Hypocrisy luminously.

I'm not accusing. It's all facts. If you think I'm joking gimme one good sister fb name. Gimme 3 days. You'll see the LovePeddler in her

Yippeedaniel:

All Jw's are fake. Even MaxInDHouse. His fake too. His only doing all this things on NL to count hours of preaching.

Please the highlighted is enough because i'm nothing beside millions of my brothers and sisters throughout the world, don't single out Max as someone special, i'm just Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

So your first sentence "All JWs are fake" is enough for all of us globally, it's just that you don't care about God's word otherwise i would have begged you (on my knees) to present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses because that has always been my song!

MaxInDHouse:


Please the highlighted is enough because i'm nothing beside millions of my brothers and sisters throughout the world, don't single out Max as someone special, i'm just Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

So your first sentence "All JWs are fake" is enough for all of us globally, it's just that you don't care about God's word otherwise i would have begged you (on my knees) to present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses because that has always been my song!

Performing in what ways?.

Preaching? (aim at converting new members)
Preaching? (so at end of the yr you'll publish false statistics about global preaching hours?

Yippeedaniel:

Performing in what ways?.

Preaching? (aim at converting new members)
Preaching? (so at end of the yr you'll publish false statistics about global preaching hours?

I love this!

You tried but it's

PREACHING, TEACHING and RECORDING the numbers of people in whose brains we have erased:
use of force, use of weapons, military services, racism and politics so we can continue anticipating a Paradise where people won't think of killing one another due to disparities!

MaxInDHouse:


I love this!

You tried but it's

PREACHING, TEACHING and RECORDING the numbers of people in whose brains we have erased:
use of force, use of weapons, military services, racism and politics so we can continue anticipating a Paradise where people won't think of killing one another due to disparities!

See you in the 1000yrs. Your gb said gays will resurrect. People like me who's hurt ur jw sisters will be there too

Yippeedaniel:

See you in the 1000yrs. Your gb said gays will resurrect. People like me who's hurt ur jw sisters will be there too

It's not about being gay or lesbian, it's about humility!

People who have hurt others in the past due to circumstances beyond their control or out of ignorance will surely be resurrected.
But people who deliberately chose to ignore anything having to do with God or conscience will not be remembered during resurrection! Psalms 9:17

MaxInDHouse:


It's not about being gay or lesbian, it's about humility!

People who have hurt others in the past due to circumstances beyond their control or out of ignorance will surely be resurrected.
But people who deliberately chose to ignore anything having to do with God or conscience will not be remembered during resurrection! Psalms 9:17

Go watch 2021 annual meeting first becos u talk...

Yippeedaniel:

Go watch 2021 annual meeting first becos u talk...

You're watching our annual meetings!

So how do you hope to grasp what we are saying when you don't want to learn from the GB?
Well the Bible says those who deliberately chose to ignore their conscience will not be remembered during resurrection! Psalms 9:17

MaxInDHouse:


You're watching our annual meetings!

So how do you hope to grasp what we are saying when you don't want to learn from the GB?
Well the Bible says those who deliberately chose to ignore their conscience will not be remembered during resurrection! Psalms 9:17

I don't want to be remembered or Liv in a paradise filled with jw sisters.

Yippeedaniel:

I don't want to be remembered or Liv in a paradise filled with jw sisters.

Good!

Surely the one taking account of those who will be remembered {Malachi 3:16} has heard you loud and clear. Romans 10:10

Emusan:


There are many cases like this, remove that "if true"

This is social media, it's only wise to put a disclaimer where you are not sure of the authenticity of a story. This does not in anyway means I dismiss his claims. Hence my saying it's very bad. I do not condone such behavior.

MaxInDHouse:


Good!

Surely the one taking account of those who will be remembered {Malachi 3:16} has heard you loud and clear. Romans 10:10

Gimme his number so I can text him directly

Funny atheist!
Why bothering yourself over what believers say?

Yippeedaniel:

Gimme his number so I can text him directly

chatinent:
We as Jehovah’s Witnesses adhere to the form of Christianity that Jesus taught and that his apostles practiced. This article summarizes our basic beliefs.
.
1. God. We worship the one true and Almighty God, the Creator 'who has a name', and whose name is Jehovah. (Psalm 83:18; Revelation 4:​ 11) He is the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.​—Exodus 3:6; 32:11; John 20:17.
.
2. Bible. We recognize the Bible as God’s inspired message to humans. (John 17:17; 2 Timothy 3:​16) We base our beliefs on all 66 of its books, which include both the “Old Testament” and the “New Testament.” Professor Jason D. BeDuhn aptly described it when he wrote that Jehovah’s Witnesses built “their system of belief and practice from the raw material of the Bible without predetermining what was to be found there.” * While we accept the entire Bible, we are not fundamentalists. We recognize that parts of the Bible are written in figurative or symbolic language and are not to be understood literally.​ —Revelation 1:1.
.
3. Jesus. We follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ and honor him as our Savior and as the Son of God. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 5:​31) Thus, we are Christians. (Acts 11:26) However, we have learned from the Bible that Jesus is not Almighty God and that there is no Scriptural basis for the Trinity doctrine.​—John 14:28.
.
4. The Kingdom of God. This is a real government in heaven, not a condition in the hearts of Christians. It will replace human governments and accomplish God’s purpose for the earth. (Daniel 2:​44; Matthew 6:​9, 10) It will take these actions soon, for Bible prophecy indicates that we are living in “ the last days.”​—2 Timothy 3:​1-5; Matthew 24:​3-​14. Jesus is the King of God’s Kingdom in heaven. He began ruling in 1914.​—Revelation 11:15.
.
5. Salvation. Deliverance from sin and death is possible through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 4:​12) To benefit from that sacrifice, people must not only exercise faith in Jesus but also change their course of life and get baptized. (Matthew 28:19, 20; John 3:​16; Acts 3:​19, 20) A person’s works prove that his faith is alive. (James 2:​24, 26) However, salvation cannot be earned​—it comes through “the undeserved kindness of God.”​—Galatians 2:​16, 21.
.
6. Heaven. Jehovah God, Jesus Christ, and the faithful angels reside in the spirit realm. * (Psalm 103:19-​21; Acts 7:​55) A relatively small number of people​—144,000​—will be resurrected to life in heaven to rule with Jesus in the Kingdom.​—Daniel 7:​27; 2 Timothy 2:​12; Revelation 5:​9, 10; 14:​1, 3.
.
7. Earth. God created the earth to be mankind’s eternal home. (Psalm 104:5; 115:16; Ecclesiastes 1:4) God will bless obedient people with perfect health and everlasting life in an earthly paradise. Of course, it was his original purpose while creating man.​—Psalm 37:11, 34.
.
8. Evil and suffering. These began when one of God’s angels rebelled. (John 8:​44) This angel, who after his rebellion was called “Satan” and “Devil,” persuaded the first human couple to join him, and the consequences have been disastrous for their descendants. ( Genesis 3:​1-6; Romans 5:​12) In order to settle the moral issues raised by Satan, God has 'allowed' evil and suffering, but He will not permit them to continue forever.
.
9. Death. People who die pass out of existence. (Psalm 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:​5, 10) They do not suffer in a fiery hell of torment. God will bring billions back from death by means of a resurrection. (Acts 24:15) However, those who refuse to learn God’s ways after being raised to life will be destroyed forever with no hope of a resurrection.​— Revelation 20:14, 15.
.
10. Family. We adhere to God’s original standard of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, with sexual immorality being the only valid basis for divorce. (Matthew 19:​4-9) We are convinced that the wisdom found in the Bible helps families to succeed.​—Ephesians 5:22–​6:1.
.
11. Our worship. We do not venerate the cross or any other images. (Deuteronomy 4:​15-​19; 1 John 5:​21) Key aspects of our worship include the following: Praying to God.​—Philippians 4:6. Reading and studying the Bible.​—Psalm 1:​1-3. Meditating on what we learn from the Bible.​—Psalm 77:12. Meeting together to pray, study the Bible, sing, express our faith, and encourage fellow Witnesses and others.​— Colossians 3:​16; Hebrews 10:23-​25. Preaching the “good news of the Kingdom.”​—Matthew 24:14. Helping those in need.​—James 2:​14-​17. Constructing and maintaining Kingdom Halls and other facilities used to further our worldwide Bible educational work.​— Psalm 127:1. Sharing in disaster relief.​—Acts 11:27-​30.
.
12. Our organization. We are organized into congregations, each of which is overseen by a body of elders. However, the elders do not form a clergy class, and they are unsalaried. (Matthew 10:8; 23: We do not practice tithing, and no collections are ever taken at our meetings. (2 Corinthians 9:7) All our activities are supported by anonymous donations. The Governing Body, a small group of mature Christians who serve at our world headquarters, provides direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.​— Matthew 24:45.
.

Talk to us about the practice of shunning.

DeepSight:

Talk to us about the practice of shunning.

Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10-11

MaxInDHouse:


Romans 16:17; 2

This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

1. How do you read the words "keep away from them?"
2. Does it suggest to you excommunication from fellowship?
3. Do you believe that such should form grounds for the division and break-up of families? For example, if that person is a spouse, do you "keep away from them?" Do you shun them? If that person is a parent, do you shun them?
4. Do you recognize the potential for cult-like fanaticism in this? Do you recognize that shunning others was a standard practice of many of the most dangerous cults in history?
5. Do you recognize the potential for religious intolerance in this? In the sense that if you are to "keep away" from people who think differently from you in terms of religion, then you probably should not associate with people of other faiths.
6. How would you feel if people of other faiths "shunned" you for being a JW?
7. How can you show Christian love to a shunned person?

John 1:10-11

This reads - He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.

What does this have to do with shunning?

DeepSight:


This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

1. How do you read the words "keep away from them?"
2. Does it suggest to you excommunication from fellowship?
3. Do you believe that such should form grounds for the division and break-up of families? For example, if that person is a spouse, do you "keep away from them?" Do you shun them? If that person is a parent, do you shun them?
4. Do you recognize the potential for cult-like fanaticism in this? Do you recognize that shunning others was a standard practice of many of the most dangerous cults in history?
5. Do you recognize the potential for religious intolerance in this? In the sense that if you are to "keep away" from people who think differently from you in terms of religion, then you probably should not associate with people of other faiths.
6. How would you feel if people of other faiths "shunned" you for being a JW?
7. How can you show Christian love to a shunned person?



This reads - He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.

What does this have to do with shunning?

Jesus never used physical sword against anyone neither did he support using it but he clearly stated that he did not come for peace {Matthew 10:34-39} perhaps you should tell me what he meant in those verses if not causing division in the families!

My friend, it's either you're for Jesus or against him, so choose to be with Jesus and see the reality of what Jesus said. That's what we are practicing among Jehovah's Witnesses!

achorladey:



That my lies are your TRUTH

Na 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 & Psalms 97:10 dey pain you.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus never used physical sword against anyone neither did he support using it but he clearly stated that he did not come for peace {Matthew 10:34-39} perhaps you should tell me what he meant in those verses if not causing division in the families!

My friend, it's either you're for Jesus or against him, so choose to be with Jesus and see the reality of what Jesus said. That's what we are practicing among Jehovah's Witnesses!

They want Jesus Christ to give them "feel good motivational speech" rather teach them the Bible truth he learnt from his God &Father John 15:15. 17:17

Janosky:

They want Jesus Christ to give them "feel good motivational speech" rather teach them the Bible truth he learnt from his God &Father John 15:15. 17:17

Thanks my brother, they don't want the other side of Christianity it's only the sweet side they want. So it's good to quote Jesus' words for them and allow them to explain what God's Son meant if Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the group practicing it!

Read the following Scriptures carefully and try to be objective in your reasoning, can you do that ?


Romans 16:17

“Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.”


1Corinthians 5:11

“But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”

2John 9-11

“Everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. The one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the Father and the Son.  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.”


Do you believe that the first century Christians were cultists to have laid down such rules ?

Honestly, I don’t think your problem is with the Witnesses. Actually, your case should be against the Bible itself but you’re using the critique of Witnesses as a smokescreen.

To many people, the Bible is a bag filled with jellybeans and gravel, so they try to select the ones that are enticing to them and leave the ones that doesn’t sit right with them.

But that’s different when it comes to Jehovah’s Witnesses because we accept all the 66 books of the Bible as inspired of God so every part must be considered in our worship. 2Timothy 3:16

DeepSight:

This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.[/i]1. How do you read the words "keep away from them?"
2. Does it suggest to you excommunication from fellowship?
3. Do you believe that such should form grounds for the division and break-up of families? For example, if that person is a spouse, do you "keep away from them?" Do you shun them? If that person is a parent, do you shun them?
4. Do you recognize the potential for cult-like fanaticism in this? Do you recognize that shunning others was a standard practice of many of the most dangerous cults in history?
5. Do you recognize the potential for religious intolerance in this? In the sense that if you are to "keep away" from people who think differently from you in terms of religion, then you probably should not associate with people of other faiths.
6. How would you feel if people of other faiths "shunned" you for being a JW?
7. How can you show Christian love to a shunned person?
This reads - [i]He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
What does this have to do with shunning?

Janosky:


Na 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 & Psalms 97:10 dey pain you.

Na you type pain. The abundance of your heart loves and relish pain

Janosky:

They want Jesus Christ to give them "feel good motivational speech" rather teach them the Bible truth he learnt from his God &Father John 15:15. 17:17

You know your Jesus and the other 144,000 Jesus are giving you motivational speech like......

1. You and the your religious organization are the only true Christians on earth.

2. You and your religious organisation are the only ones doing Jehovah's will. To make you feel good a publication was produced.

3. You and your religious organisation are the only ones restoring true worship all over the world

4. Don't you love those motivational speech from Jesus and the 144,000 Jesus who cannot guarantee you spiritual food free of poisons.

DeepSight:


This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

1. How do you read the words "keep away from them?"
2. Does it suggest to you excommunication from fellowship?
3. Do you believe that such should form grounds for the division and break-up of families? For example, if that person is a spouse, do you "keep away from them?" Do you shun them? If that person is a parent, do you shun them?
4. Do you recognize the potential for cult-like fanaticism in this? Do you recognize that shunning others was a standard practice of many of the most dangerous cults in history?
5. Do you recognize the potential for religious intolerance in this? In the sense that if you are to "keep away" from people who think differently from you in terms of religion, then you probably should not associate with people of other faiths.
6. How would you feel if people of other faiths "shunned" you for being a JW?
7. How can you show Christian love to a shunned person?



This reads - He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.

What does this have to do with shunning?

That's what you get from people whose view of scriptures should be seen from the BIFOCAL LENSE of their religious leaders who said cannot guarantee them spiritual foods free of poisons.

This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them

Rephrased......

This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters(Jehovah's witnesses) , to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned from our religious leaders aka Governing bodies(regardless of what Jesus says). Keep away from them.

DappaD:
Read the following Scriptures carefully and try to be objective in your reasoning, can you do that ?


Romans 16:17

“Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.”


1Corinthians 5:11

“But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”

2John 9-11

“Everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. The one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the Father and the Son.  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.”


Do you believe that the first century Christians were cultists to have laid down such rules ?

Honestly, I don’t think your problem is with the Witnesses. Actually, your case should be against the Bible itself but you’re using the critique of Witnesses as a smokescreen.

To many people, the Bible is a bag filled with jellybeans and gravel, so they try to select the ones that are enticing to them and leave the ones that doesn’t sit right with them.

But that’s different when it comes to Jehovah’s Witnesses because we accept all the 66 books of the Bible as inspired of God so every part must be considered in our worship. 2Timothy 3:16

If its a biblical teaching, one must say it is definitely not a Christ-like teaching. The teachings of Jesus stand in contradistinction to this Pauline fundamentalist discriminatory intolerance. This is not different from the worst sort of Nazi antisemitism.

There is no way Jesus would have supported this sort of hate-preachment.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus never used physical sword against anyone neither did he support using it but he clearly stated that he did not come for peace {Matthew 10:34-39} perhaps you should tell me what he meant in those verses if not causing division in the families!

My friend, it's either you're for Jesus or against him, so choose to be with Jesus and see the reality of what Jesus said. That's what we are practicing among Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jesus' prime teaching was love. Even for enemies.
I therefore cannot imagine the man who said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" - supporting this sort of radical fundamentalist intolerance.

DeepSight:
If its a biblical teaching, one must say it is definitely not a Christ-like teaching. The teachings of Jesus stand in contradistinction to this Pauline fundamentalist discriminatory intolerance. This is not different from the worst sort of Nazi antisemitism.

Paul was commissioned by Jesus to take the good news to the Gentiles (you and me) Acts 9:15
You would never have heard about about Jesus if it weren’t for Paul so how can you say that Paul is contradicting his Master ?

The honest truth is that such a decisive action taken isn’t borne out of hatred for the wrongdoer because when God chastises a person, it is out of love that he does so(Proverbs 3:12) so ​that the person can come back to his senses.

Again, there has never been discipline that is sweet and pleasant(Hebrews 12:11) but at the end of the day, when the person repents of his sin and asks God for forgiveness(Isaiah 55:7), his paths will no longer be crooked but straight again. Hebrews 12:13

There is no way Jesus would have supported this sort of hate-preachment .

Dare I say you have little or no knowledge about the man named Jesus ?
You said Paul was intolerant, while Jesus was ?

First of all, the word ‘intolerant’ can mean many things to different people. To some, it means someone who sees his own as the best while others false or it could mean someone who purposely hurts others who disagree with him in opinion.

Well neither Jesus nor Paul was the latter. So I’ll assume by ‘intolerant’, you mean the former ?

If Jesus were ‘tolerant’ as you make him seem, why did hammer on the fact that no other person could lead to God except him ? John 14:6
And that the Jewish temple was be brought to ruin after rejecting him as God’s Son ? Matthew 23:37-24:2

You also said Jesus’ preaching was about love. Good and fine. But he also said his teachings would cause divisions because people would rather prefer the reassuring lie over the truth so even family members will make sure they silence speakers of the truth. Matthew 10:34-36

To be continued.

DeepSight:

Jesus' prime teaching was love. Even for enemies.
I therefore cannot imagine the man who said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" - supporting this sort of radical fundamentalist intolerance.

That's why you need true Christians to TEACH you what Jesus taught otherwise you will be totally confused when someone inquisitive ask you what Jesus meant here:

Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:34-38

If you want us to TEACH you we will because it's the work we are assigned to do but if you're not interested there's no problem!