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Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by skyisthelimit(m): 5:09am On Dec 02, 2021 |
And so?. Why are you just talking now? Don't the citizens of this country have enough hardships they are passing through already. South Africa has accepted the pioneer status, allow them to deal with it. Everything isn't about trying to defame us more to make fame . You seem to under estimate the far implications of your claims... and coming from one of our own, not even because you have a solution. Nigerians are rugged people and they're surviving everyday despite the very tough times we find ourselves. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Lightorder: 5:12am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Stevenson20:na dem go run o. The kin hunger wey dey this country now , the outrage eh ? Endsars / first lockdown dey learn work 2 Likes |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Lightorder: 5:20am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Awon APC 1000 naira- packet of indomie and sai baba proponents, una see una lives for open village square ? Beggars have no shame! Put it behind your dull skulls |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by BABANGBALI: 5:45am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Naija no dey carry last. Lalasticlala, mynd44 make una dey Sanitize nairaland o, make people no come spread am for here |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by onuman: 5:55am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Mrchippychappy: You got it. See Adetife in Nigeria, see retroactive testing in Nigeria. Nigeria man never finish with pepper soup and miliki, na retroactive test that discovered omicron he go get time do. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Kingjay007: 6:18am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Jpolgar: |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by MASTERCHIEF0847(m): 6:22am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Jpolgar:The testing done by CDC in the lab is different from the normal PCR test. The samples are further tested/worked on by virologists in the CDC lab. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Slurity(m): 6:22am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Mrchippychappy:even though your reasoning make sense, your judgement is shallow. How on earth do you think discovery of the micron earlier in Nigeria will bring good fortunes to the Drs or Nigeria? Your kind of mindset that everyone else is corrupt except yourself is devilish and annoying. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by dalass(f): 6:25am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Mrchippychappy: African scientists are foolish |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Slurity(m): 6:26am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kingzy4pep:with Your statement, it is glaring, you don't understand medical practice a bit. If you did not understand why the discovery has to be revealed then you are probably among those that did not understand science and did not even believe the virus exist in the first place |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by NairaMaster1(m): 6:32am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Mrchippychappy: Don't mind the loots. They want to carry first in every bad things. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by DuBLINGreenb(m): 7:30am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Naija wants to feel among. The CDC man doesn't want us to be left out. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Chicky34: 7:31am On Dec 02, 2021 |
I swear oloriburuku ni awon leaders wa yi o, dem just too get thief thief mind Mrchippychappy: |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by rawe45: 7:37am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Mrchippychappy: I knew this was going to happen. Begi begi country.. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by coronavirus19: 7:49am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Lanrextop23333:Why should Buhari close border? |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by peggywebbs(f): 8:24am On Dec 02, 2021 |
This is looking like a planned pattern. Every country says basically the same thing now. They started with fake news and now is disinformation. Well every country claimed to have seen the Omicron variant and now all are claiming they saw it before South Africa. I don't know about you but the world governments are up to something and it has nothing good in store for us. 1 Like |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Kingzy4pep(m): 9:32am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Slurity:Even though I'm not a medical practitioner, I very well understand the essence of the announcement of this recent discovery. But my point is this, The westerners are very tricky. They might have seen this strain before now and decide to conceal the information simply because they wanna avoid their country being tagged the source nation. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 9:37am On Dec 02, 2021 |
passion007: Fact checkers will spin it differently. But please read 2nd sentence Last paragraph. Keyword: differentiation
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Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 9:53am On Dec 02, 2021 |
MASTERCHIEF0847: Thanks bro. Can you link an article or video that explains the actual science behind it? |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by omoharry(f): 9:55am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Franking:Abi Canada don add Nigeria to the list of Africa nation to be banned due to this new virus . |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Franking: 2:02pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
omoharry: Yes ké |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by passion007: 8:16am On Dec 03, 2021 |
Jpolgar: I don't think you understand what you've just posted. It's hard to address your post because it means I will need to start from the basics and explain what PCR means, but I'll try. PCR means Polymerase Chain Reaction, its a technology developed many years ago for testing for different medical conditions, so it isn't unique to coronavirus at all. It predates covid 19 by over 20 years actually! Multiplex PCR simply means testing for 2 or more conditions at once. It means checking chlamydia and gonorrhoea with one test, rather than two. Or testing for syphilis and HIV with one test rather than two. This technology already exists. What the CDC is proposing is to test for Influenza and Coronavirus with one test rather than two. This does not mean both viruses are the same. Each test will detect a unique part of the respective virus and so it is possible to test positive for covid and not flu, or vice versa, or even test positive to both, or to neither. At no point did the CDC say that they can't tell one virus from the other; that misinformation is borne from your own limited understanding of the subject matter. 1 Like |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 10:40am On Dec 03, 2021 |
passion007:. So basically PCR gives a lot of false positives. I'm sure you're also aware that above 35cycles, the test is basically useless. And yet around the world its been done at 40 cycles & above. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by passion007: 11:56am On Dec 03, 2021 |
Jpolgar: I'll tell you a test that has no false positives at all - coronavirus viral culture. Culture will correctly identify every case of coronavirus, but will take several days to make a diagnosis, whereas PCR tests are instant in some cases. This means patients can be diagnosed earlier and treatment started earlier with PCR. Secondly, PCR is a safe testing system, with minimal risk to handlers and laboratory staff while culture means growing a sample until the amount of virus is significant enough to be detected on the growth medium, with a significant biosafety hazard. PCR will correctly identify 99 out of 100 cases of covid and culture will identify all 100 cases Imagine for a second that you're the public health expert planning a large scale community testing for your village, which option will you go for between PCR and culture? Lastly, what do you mean PCR gives a lot of false positives? That has never been a concern. The concern has always been a high number of false negatives!! 1 Like |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 1:10pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
passion007: Are you speaking in general terms or with regards to covid? In general terms, I'll say you're spot on. In regards to covid, not so much. Like I said earlier, above 35 cycles it produces lots of false positives. I'm not sure what the current practice is, but last year, most labs around the world were running PCR above 35 cycles resulting in a large number of cases. |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by passion007: 1:51pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Jpolgar: What do you mean 'not so much' in regards to covid? Would be helpful if you clarify your disagreement. 35 cycles of what exactly? 1 Like |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 2:12pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
passion007: PCR is kinda like photocopying on a molecular level. The process of replicating the RNA of the virus is called a cycle. For a better explanation, please check out the link below. https://www.coleparmer.com/tech-article/pcr-process-steps-explained |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by passion007: 2:52pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Jpolgar: You're talking to a PCR expert mate. Really funny trying to explain PCR to me. I see you're referring to replication cycles, and once again, your comment reveals no knowledge of the workings of PCR technology. "Photocopying on a molecular level"? that's too simplistic. Try thinking of it as "amplifying viral molecules" and you may start to understand it better. And what is that talk about 35 amplification cycles causing high false positives? That's what happens when you try to learn an entire specialism from blog posts. May be if you think "How many times can I amplify this dot (.) so that I can see it from 6 metres away?" If there's no dot there to start with, even if you amplify it a million times, you will see nothing. But if there is a dot, however small, you can amplify it until it is visible from 6m away, whether it takes 40 or 60 amplification cycles to get to that point, and that is not a false positive! You have really inspired me to think of writing a book "PCR for Beginners" 1 Like |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 4:45pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
passion007: You're funny man. PCR expert asking what I mean by 35 cycles. PCR can also pick up dead nucleotides from an old infection. I explained what I meant in a simple sentence so anyone reading would understand & it's too simplistic? When you publish that book, please tag me. I'd like to have a copy. One love man |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by passion007: 6:00pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Jpolgar: The entire time, I thought you were referring to batch cycle testing which is notably done in Ghana to save testing material, I would never have thought anyone would misunderstand the amplification cycle the way you have! I recognise when people have no further argument, they finish with good wishes. With that in mind, I'm not sure if you want me to explain your 'dead nucleotide' concept so you can better understand it, but given you haven't really engaged with any of my points, other than pushing the goal post a little further each time, I presume you don't want any further explanations from myself. 1 Like |
Re: Omicron COVID Appeared In Nigeria In October - Weeks Before South Africa by Jpolgar(m): 7:32pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
passion007: If you'd be willing to, I don't mind. I'm actually learning from you even though I don't fully agree with you. I just like to end conversations when I feel like its about to turn sour. |
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