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Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by samuk:
Alba3:
See Samuk, myself and many others have provided you genuine facts as replies to this your repeated gibberish... As for me I don't have time to read same lies you copy and paste for years, every time you invade others' threads. It proofs nothing but sane people only laugh at you.

You've seen the reason I didn't read your fictitious lies again, ba?
You don't read my post but continue to reply to them. Can you swear that you don't get excited whenever my name pops up on a thread, because you know, you are likely to learn a thing or two.

On the photograph you shared, the Oba of Benin was the only born king on it, hence he was also the only one that was allowed with his traditional emblem with the bearer in attendance, the Ada and Omuada. Others on that photograph from the Sultan, Emir, Obi, Ooni, etc are all appointed by politicians. Why was the Ooni not allowed to display his traditional staff. Nigeria government and politicians know who is a king and those that are not in the real sense.

Like I said earlier, if not the British that lumped everyone together, the Oba of Benin have no reason to be in that gathering. You will hardly see the Oba of Benin in such gathering, how many of such, have you seen him since then.

How many of such gathering did you see past Oba of Benin attended.
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Alba3:
samuk:
You don't read my post but continue to reply to them. Can you swear that you don't get excited whenever my name pops up on a thread, because you know, you are likely to learn a thing or two.

On the photograph you shared, the Oba of Benin was the only born king on it, hence he was also the only one that was allowed with his traditional emblem with the bearer on attendance, the Ada and Omuada. Others on that photograph from the Sultan, Emir, Obi, Ooni, etc are all appointed by politicians. Why was the Ooni not allowed to display his traditional staff. Nigeria government and politicians know who is a king and those that are not in the real sense.

Like I said earlier, if not the British that lumped everyone together, the Oba of Benin have no reason to be in that gathering. You will hardly see the Oba of Benin in such gathering, how many of such, have you seen him since then.

How many of such gathering did you see past Oba of Benin attended.
Before I would have taken my time to read and give counter replies to every line of your lies but I don't do such to unrepentant revisionists again.

Why no go to Ife or Sokoto to tell them the Ọọni or Sultan not the children of their forefathers?
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by samuk:
Alba3:
Before I would have taken my time to read and give counter replies to every line of byour lies but I don't do such to unrepentant revisionists again.

Why no go to Ife or Sokoto to tell them the Ọọni or Sultan not the children of their forefathers?
Yet another reply from someone that claims that he doesn't read my posts grin grin.

To show the political nature of your photograph, the Alaafin which the British met on ground in 1824 as the king of the yoruba people was not even invited to the gathering, meanwhile the North got multiple seats.

Yoruba originally referred to Oyo people, today, Yoruba is political entity with diverse previously unrelated groups. Anyone that so which can change their history and join. There are several groups from, Brazil, Republic of Benin that are members but count Benin out. You can't shave someone's head in his absence. We have not applied to be part of that political group called Yoruba. Benin is too significant for that.

Enjoy your day until you see my name pop up again.
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by samuk: 11:57am On Dec 12, 2021
UltraSphinx:
Oh!
But capitulating to some rag-tag bands of Portuguese f*ggots - with minimal resistance, is one of the qualities of an empire right?
Empires rise and fall but Benin didn't fall to the Portuguese, go and learn your history.

All great world recognised empires from Greece, Rome, Egypt, Mongol, ottoman, Benin, etc, came to an end but Oyo is not on the list of world recognised empire/kingdom.

Oyo is a yoruba lie told within Nigeria.
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by UltraSphinx(m): 5:17pm On Dec 12, 2021
samuk:
Empires rise and fall but Benin didn't fall to the Portuguese, go and learn your history.

All great world recognised empires from Greece, Rome, Egypt, Mongol, ottoman, Benin, etc, came to an end but Oyo is not on the list of world recognised empire/kingdom.

Oyo is a yoruba lie told within Nigeria.
Come on!
Did you just place your Igodomigodo Kingdom in the same sentence with those medieval empires?
Are u that naïve?
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 7:24pm On Dec 12, 2021
samuk:
Benin greatness was recorded by the Europeans that invented the word greatness.

Benin entered the Guinness book of world records to have built the greatest monument on earth pre mechanical era.

No amount of photographs of the Ooni can change this simple fact.

Yoruba is a modern day political creation.

Benin is ancient.

There is 400 years historical gap between Benin and Oyo.

None of the Europeans that visited west Africa since the 1300s witnessed the so called Oyo empire. We are not going to accept that Oyo was an empire because you made such claim.

Benin is still bigger than what remains of Rome, this doesn't change the face that Rome like Benin was a great empire that influence the world.

When we talk of world empires that created and built world class monuments, Egypt, Rome and Benin are mentioned but Oyo is not on that list.

Amongst Egypt, Rome and Benin, the Benin monument was recognised by guinness book of records as the greatest, consuming 100 times more material than the pyramid of Egypt.

If not for British that lumped everyone together in Nigeria, Benin have no business being discussed alongside any yoruba town historically.
grin grin grin Bini people and delusions.

Which Guinness book of records mentioned any monument from Benin? Show me a page from said Guinness book.
Mind you I have access to all editions of the Guinness book of World records.
So I will disgrace you here if you lie.

Benin and your delusions grin Benin is bigger than what remains of Rome?? Lmao grin
You mean Rome the capital of Italy? With a metropolitan area over 3x larger than Benin city ??

Benin and grandios delusions grin
Imagine putting a small medieval kingdom like Benin in comparison with ancient giants like Egypt and Rome grin
So Benin is like top 3 biggest ancient civilizations when it's not even ancient, nor is it as a medieval kingdom top 5 amongst medieval Kingdoms in West Africa grin

Which Europeans visited west africa in the 1300s grin

These guys won't choke me with laughter grin
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Ologbo147: 7:30pm On Dec 12, 2021
macof:
grin grin grin Bini people and delusions.

Which Guinness book of records mentioned any monument from Benin? Show me a page from said Guinness book.
Mind you I have access to all editions of the Guinness book of World records.
So I will disgrace you here if you lie.

Benin and your delusions grin Benin is bigger than what remains of Rome?? Lmao grin
You mean Rome the capital of Italy? With a metropolitan area over 3x larger than Benin city ??

Benin and grandios delusions grin
Imagine putting a small medieval kingdom like Benin in comparison with ancient giants like Egypt and Rome grin
So Benin is like top 3 biggest ancient civilizations when it's not even ancient, nor is it as a medieval kingdom top 5 amongst medieval Kingdoms in West Africa grin

Which Europeans visited west africa in the 1300s grin

These guys won't choke me with laughter grin
Rome is 1285 kilometres 2 Benin is bigger than that
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Ologbo147: 7:31pm On Dec 12, 2021
UltraSphinx:
Come on!
Did you just place your Igodomigodo Kingdom in the same sentence with those medieval empires?
Are u that naïve?
]The Benin empire is reckoned with the largest man made structure on Earth! At least that is something to hold on to for a civilization from Nigeria
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 7:35pm On Dec 12, 2021
Ologbo147:
Rome is 1285 kilometres 2 Benin is bigger than that
Rome is 1,285km
Rome metropolitan area is 5,363km
Benin has no metropolitan area as Edo state has no proper urban planning. It is simply the city which is 1,204km

So no, whichever way you look at it, your brother was wrong.. Benin is not larger than Rome in anyway
Infact, I correct myself.. Rome is over 4x larger than Benin grin
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 7:37pm On Dec 12, 2021
Ologbo147:
]The Benin empire is reckoned with the largest man made structure on Earth! At least that is something to hold on to for a civilization from Nigeria
Proove this by presenting the declaration by Guinness book of records.
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Ologbo147: 7:56pm On Dec 12, 2021
macof:
Rome is 1,285km
Rome metropolitan area is 5,363km
Benin has no metropolitan area as Edo state has no proper urban planning. It is simply the city which is 1,204km

So no, whichever way you look at it, your brother was wrong.. Benin is not larger than Rome in anyway
Infact, I correct myself.. Rome is over 4x larger than Benin grin
I guess this is the simple definition of a metropolitan. That 1204 is the whole of Oredo, Egor, large part of Ikpoba Okha which forms the major parts of the city,and a few part of Uhuwonde. We cannot therefore say that the 1204 is or was just the present Benin, Benin has rapidly urbanized in the last couple of Years, many communities from large lGAs like Uhuwonde, and Ovia North east have urbanized rapidly. Therefore the 1204 is no longer obtainable for Benin today, soon enough the whole of ten thousand kilometres2 Edo south will be refered to as Benin city maybe in ten years time. From Uniben which is in Ovia North east down to Ekiadolor today is refered to as Benin city, territories that were not formerly parts of Benin have urbanized in the last 15 years and is now refered to as Benin city. The Present Benin of today cannot be less than 3000 kilometres 2

Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 7:59pm On Dec 12, 2021
Ologbo147:
I guess this is the simple definition of a metropolitan. That 1204 is the whole of Oredo, Egor, large part of Ikpoba Okha which forms the major parts of the city,and a few part of Uhuwonde . We cannot therefore say that the 1204 is or was just the present Benin, Benin has rapidly urbanized in the last couple of Years, many communities from large lGAs like Uhuwonde, and Ovia North east have urbanized rapidly. Therefore the 1204 is no longer obtainable for Benin today, soon enough the whole of ten thousand kilometres2 Edo south will be refered to as Benin city maybe in ten years time. From Uniben which is in Ovia North east down to Ekiadolor today is refered to as Benin city, territories that were not formerly parts of Benin have urbanized in the last 15 years and is now refered to as Benin city. The Present Benin of today cannot be less than 3000 kilometres 2
Lmao cheesy therefore the 1,204 km is even already outside the core city grin grin

What a small place to dare compare to Rome
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Ologbo147: 8:09pm On Dec 12, 2021
macof:
Proove this by presenting the declaration by Guinness book of records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_7TFiZ8Sk maybe this would help,I don't think they are clowns, do you think so
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Ologbo147: 8:24pm On Dec 12, 2021
macof:
Lmao cheesy therefore the 1,204 km is even already outside the core city grin grin

What a small place to dare compare to Rome
Why are you laughing man are you a clown. Oredo is the main city but it's expanded rapidly in the last 50 years into Egor and Ikpoba Okha even more recently into Ovia North East and Uhuwonde which are over 2000kilometres2 each. communities from Ovia North East like Oghede, Evboutubu, Ugbiyioko, Utagban, Okhuwmun, Uholor, Egbean,Iguadolor,Ogheghe,Ovah,Oluku, Evbuomore and others. All these are in Ovia North East alone. And they became part of Benin city in the last 15 years . In fact Evboutubu and Ugbiyioko can form stand alone cities
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m):
Ologbo147:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_7TFiZ8Sk maybe this would help,I don't think they are clowns, do you think so
Lmao yes, that's exactly what they are - clowns grin

Did you notice neither you nor them were able to present proof of the Guinness book of records where this was supposedly declared.

Clowns saying the Benin wall is 4x longer than the longest wall in the world grin grin grin

Benin and delusions saying it is 10,000 miles in length while the actual longest wall is only 2,150 miles plus 2,193 miles of branches and spurs grin

Benin and in their Delusional state want us to believe Benin had a wall more than 10x the length of Britain grin
Shey na ment, are you guys on drugs or something?

Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 8:46pm On Dec 12, 2021
Ologbo147:
Why are you laughing man are you a clown. Oredo is the main city but it's expanded rapidly in the last 50 years into Egor and Ikpoba Okha even more recently into Ovia North East and Uhuwonde which are over 2000kilometres2 each. communities from Ovia North East like Oghede, Evboutubu, Ugbiyioko, Utagban, Okhuwmun, Uholor, Egbean,Iguadolor,Ogheghe,Ovah,Oluku, Evbuomore and others. All these are in Ovia North East alone. And they became part of Benin city in the last 15 years . In fact Evboutubu and Ugbiyioko can form stand alone cities
Cry me a river. All these places are not just being associated with Benin City.. They are close communities occupied by Bini speaking people

Bottomline is Benin City is not larger than Rome
Stop your drug induced delusions
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Ologbo147: 8:50pm On Dec 12, 2021
macof:
Cry me a river. All these places are not just being associated with Benin City.. They are close communities occupied by Bini speaking people

Bottomline is Benin City is not larger than Rome
Stop your drug induced delusions
They are part of Benin metropolitan, Benin is larger than Rome cry me a river,the definition of a metropolitan is not up to you, it is what it is

Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by UltraSphinx(m): 10:32pm On Dec 12, 2021
Ologbo147:
]The Benin empire is reckoned with the largest man made structure on Earth! At least that is something to hold on to for a civilization from Nigeria
There's nothing worth "holding on to" in that pile of dust.. We already have sophisticated proofs of ancient civilization - Nok Terracotta.
No one takes pride in an excavator empire cool
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 10:49pm On Dec 12, 2021
Ologbo147:
They are part of Benin metropolitan, Benin is larger than Rome cry me a river,the definition of a metropolitan is not up to you, it is what it is
grin
Only in the mind of someone from Bini

You guys think different I tell you grin too much shekpe or what? grin


There's nothing like Benin metropolitan area grin
Don't force it, you can't find it anywhere grin

Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by samuk:
Ologbo147:
They are part of Benin metropolitan, Benin is larger than Rome cry me a river,the definition of a metropolitan is not up to you, it is what it is
Alba3:
Benin remains the smallest kingdom down South with about 5 LGAs
Most of these guys are not smart. Above was the statement made by one of them, equating what remained of old Benin empire to Edo south senatorial district, even though he made a mistake with the numbers of local government areas but it was clear he was referring to Edo south senatorial Zone.

I responded by saying that this Benin he described is still bigger than what remains of Rome. Edo south is factually bigger than what remains of Rome but the not so clever Macof wants to reduce Benin to Oredo and if possible to King's Square in his bigoted imagination.

The Benin people don't need faceless bigoted Nairalanders to validate what is world acknowledged achievements of the old Benin empire.

Benin made history and it was recognised and recorded by the world. Benin history is still being taught across the globe by reputable institutions, Benin history transcends Nigeria tribal politics.

If Macof was not too intellectually lazy, the edition of the Guinness book of records that acknowledged the Benin wall/moat as the world greatest monument pre mechanical era is all over the internet, various scientific institutions across world have this information on their website site but he still wants to be spoon-fed. Imagine him calling the presenter of a UK television quiz programmes clown because he thinks the UK is like Nigeria were mediocrity reigns and most people blinded by tribal and religious sentiments.

They started with the Oba of Benin is a yoruba lie, when that did not succeed they try to sell Oyo as an empire and when this too did not hold water they are trying to rubbish the world acclaimed historical achievements of the Benin empire.

Their pains and jealousy oozes to high heavens.
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by macof(m): 3:50pm On Dec 13, 2021
samuk:
Most of these guys are not smart. Above was the statement made by one of them, equating what remained of old Benin empire to Edo south senatorial district, even though he made a mistake with the numbers of local government areas but it was clear he was referring to Edo south senatorial Zone.

I responded by saying that this Benin he described is still bigger than what remains of Rome. Edo south is factually bigger than what remains of Rome but the not so clever Macof wants to reduce Benin to Oredo and if possible to King's Square in his bigoted imagination.

The Benin people don't need faceless bigoted Nairalanders to validate what is world acknowledged achievements of the old Benin empire.

Benin made history and it was recognised and recorded by the world. Benin history is still being taught across the globe by reputable institutions, Benin history transcends Nigeria tribal politics.

If Macof was not too intellectually lazy, the edition of the Guinness book of records that acknowledged the Benin wall/moat as the world greatest monument pre mechanical era is all over the internet, various scientific institutions across world have this information on their website site but he still wants to be spoon-fed. Imagine him calling the presenter of a UK television quiz programmes clown because he thinks the UK is like Nigeria were mediocrity reigns and most people blinded by tribal and religious sentiments.

They started with the Oba of Benin is a yoruba lie, when that did not succeed they try to sell Oyo as an empire and when this too did not hold water they are trying to rubbish the world acclaimed historical achievements of the Benin empire.

Their pains and jealousy oozes to high heavens.
Size of Benin City - 1,204km sq
Size of Rome - 1,285 km sq | size of metropolitan city of Rome - 5,363km sq
grin

I see the flood of tears grin

You make me laugh always samuk

Facts speak for themselves

Provide proof from Guinness world records, (not random unreliable blogs) that any monument from Benin holds any record
It is very easy to provide this proof as Guinness world records keeps records of the titles they have given out . even through their official website you could have provided this proof if it existed.. But it does not exist anywhere in their records grin
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by babasolution: 10:18pm On Dec 13, 2021
The Yorubas have no history
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by UGBE634: 6:46am On Dec 14, 2021
macof:
Size of Benin City - 1,204km sq
Size of Rome - 1,285 km sq | size of metropolitan city of Rome - 5,363km sq
grin

I see the flood of tears grin

You make me laugh always samuk

Facts speak for themselves

Provide proof from Guinness world records, (not random unreliable blogs) that any monument from Benin holds any record
It is very easy to provide this proof as Guinness world records keeps records of the titles they have given out . even through their official website you could have provided this proof if it existed.. But it does not exist anywhere in their records grin
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com
When he said the Benin there he meant the kingdom and not the city and yes the remnant of the kingdom,the entire Bini speaking areas is two times larger than Rome metropolitan
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Nobody: 9:52am On Dec 14, 2021
Edo people should stop engaging attention seeking yorubas
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Nobody: 9:53am On Dec 14, 2021
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Nobody: 9:54am On Dec 14, 2021
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Nobody: 9:56am On Dec 14, 2021
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Nobody: 9:57am On Dec 14, 2021
Re: Ilorin And Lokoja Are Yoruba Towns. by Nobody: 9:58am On Dec 14, 2021
It is also safe to say the Benin language is the most beautiful in West Africa and perhaps in the world.
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