achorladey:


Remain this way. It suits you.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

achorladey:


Remain this way.

See my signature

MaxInDHouse:


Do you think Pharisees don't know that Jesus' teachings is the one and only way?
Nicodemus has answered that!
But they just want Jehovah to bend to their own standard! Jeremiah 18:6-10

joyandfaith:


See my signature

I checked and here is the outcome

Proverbs 23:9 “Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words.”

Who is the bigger fools here?

joyandfaith:

Hahahahahahahahaha.

You should know the meaning of this way now

sonmvayina:


I have asked MaxInDHouse this question before he ignored it. Let me ask you. Which will you choose?
1: would you rather be in a peaceful group that worships and idol or
2. Be by yourself and obey and keep the commandments of your creator.

Your question is just one.
What you don't know is that all religions claim to be the true one, and everybody believes their own religion -or position about religion- is the correct one.(even you)
I’ve never heard anybody say: “As for religion (or politics or whatever), I believe this and that, but I am wrong”

The interesting thing is not the fact that someone believes to be right, but their reasons for that belief. And our reasons are in our understanding of the Bible as a Jehovah's witnesses in Hebrew

Have you take your time to examine God's word prophesy through Isaiah on what we be the identifying mark of his true worshippers?
Truth is, No idol or false worshippers can meet this criteria. Never! (Isaiah 2:4)

...They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.

I'm not always a Jehovah's witnesses but I can only see this fulfilments of this prophesy in the gathering of JWs. It's not just that they don't carry guns to kill people, they are peacemaker and were able to eradicate RACISM. If this is not by God's power, I don't know it is.

RussellRutherfo:


Have a terrific day.
You Armageddon liar.

JESUS IS LORD!

haddeylium:


Your question is just one.
What you don't know is that all religions claim to be the true one, and everybody believes their own religion -or position about religion- is the correct one.(even you)
I’ve never heard anybody say: “As for religion (or politics or whatever), I believe this and that, but I am wrong”

The interesting thing is not the fact that someone believes to be right, but their reasons for that belief. And our reasons are in our understanding of the Bible as a Jehovah's witnesses in Hebrew

Have you take your time to examine God's word prophesy through Isaiah on what we be the identifying mark of his true worshippers?
Truth is, No idol or false worshippers can meet this criteria. Never! (Isaiah 2:4)

...They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.

I'm not always a Jehovah's witnesses but I can only see this fulfilments of this prophesy in the gathering of JWs. It's not just that they don't carry guns to kill people, they are peacemaker and were able to eradicate RACISM. If this is not by God's power, I don't know it is.

What a response

Jehovah’s witnesses don't have to carry GUNS to kill another Jehovah’s witness. Not everyone kill another by using a gun.


Domestic violence and abuse kills, child abuse kills, spiritism kills. Oga no be by [b]GUN. Materialism and covetousness kills, Wife swapping kills[/b]

Remove this regimented kind of thinking related to carrying guns.


To your Racism palaver

Up till today fellow Jehovah’s witnesses still find it difficult to give their sons and daughters in marriage to fellow Jehovah’s witnesses from different tribes or ethnic groups and backgrounds. Spare us your RACISM eradication.

haddeylium:


Your question is just one.
What you don't know is that all religions claim to be the true one, and everybody believes their own religion -or position about religion- is the correct one.(even you)
I’ve never heard anybody say: “As for religion (or politics or whatever), I believe this and that, but I am wrong”

The interesting thing is not the fact that someone believes to be right, but their reasons for that belief. And our reasons are in our understanding of the Bible as a Jehovah's witnesses in Hebrew

Have you take your time to examine God's word prophesy through Isaiah on what we be the identifying mark of his true worshippers?
Truth is, No idol or false worshippers can meet this criteria. Never! (Isaiah 2:4)

...They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.

I'm not always a Jehovah's witnesses but I can only see this fulfilments of this prophesy in the gathering of JWs. It's not just that they don't carry guns to kill people, they are peacemaker and were able to eradicate RACISM. If this is not by God's power, I don't know it is.

Somnviya, and I think this is very simple. I can see the fulfilments of the prophesy in the gathering of JWs. So, I waste no time in joining them . And this organization has been the sweetest thing that has ever happened to me.
I cannot clean tears flooding my mentions oo , if anybody should see this fulfilment else where, HE should join them also
Very simple math

achorladey:



What a response

Jehovah’s witnesses don't have to carry GUNS to kill another Jehovah’s witness. Not everyone kill another by using a gun.


Domestic violence and abuse kills, child abuse kills, spiritism kills. Oga no be by [b]GUN. Materialism and covetousness kills, Wife swapping kills[/b]

Remove this regimented kind of thinking related to carrying guns.


To your Racism palaver

Up till today fellow Jehovah’s witnesses still find it difficult to give their sons and daughters in marriage to fellow Jehovah’s witnesses from different tribes or ethnic groups and backgrounds. Spare us your RACISM eradication.

It's crazy the response.

JWs are just about 8.5m people. The world's population is about 8billion people.

They are such a small group. They are not even up remotely close to 1% of the World's population and they are talking of some prophesy fulfilled with their group as regards guns. Are JWs supposed to carry gun to kill themselves?!

I mean how retarded can haddeylium be. Who do they report to when they have civil cases?
Ain't it the Police with guns?
Haddeylium, do you have complete brain cells?!
If the Police should all drop their arms.

Will your tiny organization despite your 100 of years false changed teachings be able to maintain public peace and security.

You are deluded like your Governing Body 8-men realtors and you don't just know it. You are claiming Jeremiah's prophesy for your tiny organization but won't claim the false prophecies your organization really gave.

Jehovah witnesses in Nigeria you all said is about 400,000. They are not even remotely close to 1% of the Nigerian population and you talk of prophecy fulfilled with your tiny group.

The deviant Rutherford effect!!

RussellRutherfo:


It's crazy the response.

JWs are just about 8.5m people. The world's population is about 8billion people.

They are such a small group. They are not even up remotely close to 1% of the World's population and they are talking of some prophesy fulfilled with their group as regards guns. Are JWs supposed to carry gun to kill themselves?!

I mean how retarded can haddeylium be. Who do they report to when they have civil cases?
Ain't it the Police with guns?
Haddeylium, do you have complete brain cells?!
If the Police should all drop their arms.

Will your tiny organization despite your 100 of years teaching be able to maintain public peace and security.

You are deluded like your Governing Body 8-men realtors and you don't just know it. You are claiming Jeremiah's prophesy for your tiny organization but won't claim the false prophecies your organization really gave.

Jehovah witnesses in Nigeria you all said is about 400,000. They are not even remotely close to 1% of the Nigerian population and you talk of prophecy fulfilled with your tiny group.

The deviant Rutherford effect!!

Will your tiny organization despite your 100 of years teaching be able to maintain public peace and security

Reality says NO. Even within their religious organisation they find it difficult to maintain public peace and security. We don hear cases of domestic violence such as wife battering wey na people wey dem dey call christendom and people of the world go settle case.


Who do they report to when they have civil cases? Ain't it the Police with guns?

Just try go close to their convention grounds or kingdom halls to do small protest, you go see them sharperly calling police and security operatives to come to their rescue.

RussellRutherfo:

These are the Gold Mansions Jesus told your 8-men realtors?!!
They look so tiny.
You sure this ain't one of your cottage huts in hell?

So you don't even know what God promised righteous people and you want to debate with JWs!

Well i'll enlighten you, the dwelling places Jesus promised the 144,000 in heaven is not to be built by humans but places where Jesus (Archangel Michael) drove away the former occupants {Revelations 12:7-8} but as for righteous servants of God who will live on earth they will build their own houses and live in it! Isaiah 65:21-23 compare to Matthew 5:5

Surely you don't even know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses!

tctrills:

If you kept your comments to religion that would have been great but you venture into a field you know nothing about.
It's these same Faithless researchers that have made the world a better place. I would rather take medical advice from the Faithless researchers than a bible student

Chai see confusion all because you want to accuse God's people!

Who told you there are no scientists among Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well what i meant is faithless Scientists (not all Scientists) because Luke was a physician and also a believer. So learn to be quick in listening and slow to speak! James 1:19

joyandfaith:

Poor communication skill

Àyìnlá Ọmọ Wúrà said:

Kí ẹ tó sọ irọ́ d'òtító á pẹ́ kí ẹ tó sọ pé màálù ní ṣ'ọkọ ewúrẹ́!

Loosely translated

It will cost the hypocrites so much time to turn lies to truth, it's not easy to convince anyone that the cow is responsible for the kid inside the goat's womb!

Acholardey can't make a straightforward response all because he doesn't want the truth!

MaxInDHouse:

[s]
So you don't even know what God promised righteous people and you want to debate with JWs!

Well i'll enlighten you, the dwelling places Jesus promised the 144,000 in heaven is not to be built by humans but places where Jesus (Archangel Michael) drove away the former occupants {Revelations 12:7-8} but as for righteous servants of God who will live on earth they will build their own houses and live in it! Isaiah 65:21-23 compare to Matthew 5:5

Surely you don't even know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses! [/s]

The ill ramblings of a Ruther-tard.

John 14:2 KJV — In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Blasphemer.
Jesus Christ is not Angel Michael.
He is not one of the many Chief Princes that Michael is or errand boys of God that Michael is.

Daniel 10:13 KJV — But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.


Jesus is the King of Kings and LORD of Lords.
Revelation 19:16 KJV — And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

MaxInDHouse:


Àyìnlá Ọmọ Wúrà said:

Kí ẹ tó sọ irọ́ d'òtító á pẹ́ kí ẹ tó sọ pé màálù ní ṣ'ọkọ ewúrẹ́!

Loosely translated

It will cost the hypocrites so much time to turn lies to truth, it's not easy to convince anyone that the cow is responsible for the calf inside the cow's womb!

Acholardey can't make a straightforward response all because he doesn't want the truth!

The hypocrites are those who see their organizational lies but would rather die in that organization that embrace the truth of the Word of God.

MaxInDHouse:


Chai see confusion all because you want to accuse God's people!

Who told you there are no scientists among Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well what i meant is faithless Scientists (not all Scientists) because Luke was a physician and also a believer. So learn to be quick in listening and slow to speak! James 1:19

You want to discuss science or religion? Because if you want to discuss the science of blood transfusion you cant be quoting some silly newspaper.
And stop being afraid and defensive, I have never accused your church of anything in any of our conversations.
If I recall, you are the one accusing everyone.

RussellRutherfo:

The ill ramblings of a Ruther-tard.
John 14:2 KJV — In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Blasphemer.
Jesus Christ is not Angel Michael.
He is not one of the many Chief Princes that Michael is or errand boys of God that Michael is.
Daniel 10:13 KJV — But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
Jesus is the King of Kings and LORD of Lords.
Revelation 19:16 KJV — And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

No wahala Sir!

RussellRutherfo:

The hypocrites are those who see their organizational lies but would rather die in that organization that embrace the truth of the Word of God.

Embrace the truth that's not working positive result anywhere!
Well i'll forever stay with what you called "LIES" that's producing fine WORKS {Matthew 7:16-18} than the faith that's not working anywhere! James 2:18-26

MaxInDHouse:


No wahala Sir!

You are welcome sir!

tctrills:
You want to discuss science or religion? Because if you want to discuss the science of blood transfusion you cant be quoting some silly newspaper.
And stop being afraid and defensive, I have never accused your church of anything in any of our conversations.
If I recall, you are the one accusing everyone.

"A particular discipline or branch of learning, especially one dealing with measurable or systematic principles rather than intuition or natural ability" Oxford Dictionary

Science connotes what is WORKING not what isn't producing fine results. So if there is still ongoing debates on the end result of a system then such is better referred to as experiment not accurate knowledge.
Many died after blood transfusion while some survived the process, many also died without blood transfusion while some who got alternative non-blood treatment survive.
Therefore no scientist can confidently say that it's due to blood transfusion that lives were saved.
Remember the motto of all medical practitioners:

"WE CARE BUT GOD HEALS"

So do you think any right thinking professional in that field will ignore what the true HEALER says regarding the care for life?

Well when it comes to KNOWLEDGE we know that everyone has gotten it because KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information

But

WISDOM is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of accumulated information which is for LASTING BENEFITS

Real Scientists think about the LASTING BENEFITS of what they will do regarding human health, it's the faithless ones among them that are hasty when it comes to the treatment of creature in God's image!

RussellRutherfo:

You are welcome sir!

Thank you Sir!

MaxInDHouse:


You'll wait till eternity because what you call idol is benefiting worshipers just as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised! Isaiah 2:2-4

So it's evident that you don't understand what Idolatry really means!

Just pick one of the two....

I did not ask you to explain anything...

MaxInDHouse:


"A particular discipline or branch of learning, especially one dealing with measurable or systematic principles rather than intuition or natural ability" Oxford Dictionary

Science connotes what is WORKING not what isn't producing fine results. So if there is still ongoing debates on the end result of a system then such is better referred to as experiment not accurate knowledge.
Many died after blood transfusion while some survived the process, many also died without blood transfusion while some who got alternative non-blood treatment survive.
Therefore no scientist can confidently say that it's due to blood transfusion that lives were saved.
Remember the motto of all medical practitioners:

"WE CARE BUT GOD HEALS"

So do you think any right thinking professional in that field will ignore what the true HEALER says regarding the care for life?

Well when it comes to KNOWLEDGE we know that everyone has gotten it because KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information

But

WISDOM is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of accumulated information which is for LASTING BENEFITS

Real Scientists think about the LASTING BENEFITS of what they will do regarding human health, it's the faithless ones among them that are hasty when it comes to the treatment of creature in God's image!

I don't think you are qualified to talk about science. From your writeup, you have shown that you don't understand the basic scientific method.
Now allow me to teach you. The scientific method is a process of determining what is and what is not. We use what is established to determine what isn't.
saying many have died after a blood transfusion is like saying many still die after taking malaria medicine. This doesn't mean malaria medications do not work. I beg you to stick to the bible and leave science for those of us that do it for a living.

You again said So do you think any right thinking professional in that field will ignore what the true HEALER says regarding the care for life? The answer to this is yes. No science is established based on what any religion feels or believes. The scientific method had nothing to do with your religious inclination. That is why we have had amazing world-changing science coming from people of all sects.
Now, what is the science of blood transfusion?
Blood transfusions replace blood that is lost through surgery or injury or provide it if your body is not making blood properly. You may need a blood transfusion if you have anemia, sickle cell disease, a bleeding disorder such as hemophilia, or cancer.
This is an established process recognized by every single medical body.
so unless you come up with new findings just keep to the bible.
The good thing about the bible is that anyone can claim to be an expert without being challenged. But in science, you don't just say anything.
Again, science is not a democracy, it's about proof of concept not about what is popular. So when you quoted a newspaper opinion piece as your science it shows you are not really serious about your science. We do not argue with science. We prove science using empirical data.

sonmvayina:

Just pick one of the two....
I did not ask you to explain anything...

You don't give orders here my friend, this is a public forum and thousands are following so let them see how stupid you're when talking about PEACE (one of God's attributes) to be found actively working in the midst of Idolaters!
Jesus said "by their fruits you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} he adds "a good tree will not produce routine fruit neither will a bad tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:17-18
Definitely you know nothing about God or His attributes, you're just a deluded miscreant running all over this forum and spewing gibberish!

tctrills:

I don't think you are qualified to talk about science. From your writeup, you have shown that you don't understand the basic scientific method.
Now allow me to teach you. The scientific method is a process of determining what is and what is not. We use what is established to determine what isn't.
saying many have died after a blood transfusion is like saying many still die after taking malaria medicine. This doesn't mean malaria medications do not work. I beg you to stick to the bible and leave science for those of us that do it for a living.

You again said So do you think any right thinking professional in that field will ignore what the true HEALER says regarding the care for life? The answer to this is yes. No science is established based on what any religion feels or believes. The scientific method had nothing to do with your religious inclination. That is why we have had amazing world-changing science coming from people of all sects.
Now, what is the science of blood transfusion?
Blood transfusions replace blood that is lost through surgery or injury or provide it if your body is not making blood properly. You may need a blood transfusion if you have anemia, sickle cell disease, a bleeding disorder such as hemophilia, or cancer.
This is an established process recognized by every single medical body.
so unless you come up with new findings just keep to the bible.
The good thing about the bible is that anyone can claim to be an expert without being challenged. But in science, you don't just say anything.
Again, science is not a democracy, it's about proof of concept not about what is popular. So when you quoted a newspaper opinion piece as your science it shows you are not really serious about your science. We do not argue with science. We prove science using empirical data.

Well you failed woefully!
Because i never said blood transfusion doesn't keep the patient alive for more days but what is the end result after decades?
Most patients that have undergone blood transfusion surely develop illnesses in the future of course they can't connect such illnesses with the blood taken due to the timeframe. When God said abstain from fornication does it mean all fornicators will contact deadly diseases? NO!
But even though some may die after contacting deadly diseases through it all those engaging in it will later suffer either psychological or emotional crisis in the future.
So when our God says "abstain from blood" {Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 3:7; Deuteronomy 12:23; Act 15:20,29} there's nothing any faithless, hopeless and worthless researcher can say to make us turn against what the greatest healer (God) say in the Bible.

We will put God first then anything else may follow! Matthew 6:33

MaxInDHouse:


Well you failed woefully!
Because i never said blood transfusion doesn't keep the patient alive for more days but what is the end result after decades?
Most patients that have undergone blood transfusion surely develop illnesses in the future of course they can't connect such illnesses with the blood taken due to the timeframe. When God said abstain from fornication does it mean all fornicators will contact deadly diseases? NO!
But even though some may die after contacting deadly diseases through it all those engaging in it will later suffer either psychological or emotional crisis in the future.
So when our God says "abstain from blood" {Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 3:7; Deuteronomy 12:23; Act 15:20,29} there's nothing any faithless, hopeless and worthless researcher can say to make us turn against what the greatest healer (God) say in the Bible.

We will put God first then anything else may follow! Matthew 6:33

There is zero scientific backing to your statement that Most patients that have undergone blood transfusion surely develop illnesses in the future. What sickness do they develop? What percentage of people develop such sicknesses? This is where science comes in. You need to show me the data. I am very open to learning. Just point me to the data.
I keep saying we cannot discuss this topic on 2 fronts. choose one, do we discuss science or religion.
Abstain from blood could mean
1 Abstain from shedding blood
2 Abstain from eating blood
3 Abstain from touching blood
4 Abstain from seeing blood
In fact, there was no blood transfusion at the time the bible was written so it clearly wasn't talking about that.
But then, if you want to talk science, show me, studies, facts, and data.
We can argue religion but we can never argue science. It's based on evidence. Provable evidence. In science, we don't just open our mouths and spew out things that are not verified. We do that in religion but not science.

tctrills:

There is zero scientific backing to your statement that Most patients that have undergone blood transfusion surely develop illnesses in the future. What sickness do they develop? What percentage of people develop such sicknesses? This is where science comes in. You need to show me the data. I am very open to learning. Just point me to the data.
I keep saying we cannot discuss this topic on 2 fronts. choose one, do we discuss science or religion.
Abstain from blood could mean
1 Abstain from shedding blood
2 Abstain from eating blood
3 Abstain from touching blood
4 Abstain from seeing blood
In fact, there was no blood transfusion at the time the bible was written so it clearly wasn't talking about that.
But then, if you want to talk science, show me, studies, facts, and data.
We can argue religion but we can never argue science. It's based on evidence. Provable evidence. In science, we don't just open our mouths and spew out things that are not verified. We do that in religion but not science.

You're just running around like a clown in the circus!

My question to you again!

Doctors always write this in all hospitals:

"WE CARE BUT GOD HEALS "

Then i asked you:

tctrills:

You again said So do you think any right thinking professional in that field will ignore what the true HEALER says regarding the care for life? The answer to this is yes.

Your response clearly shows that you're trying to lie in behalf of those who said they rely on God as healer.

I'm not arguing with you about science because everyone believe in science but when it comes to treatment the professionals themselves rely on God.

So if God says "ABSTAIN from blood"

Each person must choose how to handle that statement, you're not in any position to impose your own interpretation on me be you a scientist or not. I'm not saying you should not go for a blood transfusion but all i'm saying is "since it doesn't guarantee life then each person has the right to accept or reject it" i believe that as a health professional you should know that each patient has the right to the treatment of their choice!

MaxInDHouse:


You're just running around like a clown in the circus!

My question to you again!

Doctors always write this in all hospitals:

"WE CARE BUT GOD HEALS "

Then i asked you:



Your response clearly shows that you're trying to lie in behalf of those who said they rely on God as healer.

I'm not arguing with you about science because everyone believe in science but when it comes to treatment the professionals themselves rely on God.

So if God says "ABSTAIN from blood"

Each person must choose how to handle that statement, you're not in any position to impose your own interpretation on me be you a scientist or not. I'm not saying you should not go for a blood transfusion but all i'm saying is "since it doesn't guarantee life then each person has the right to accept or reject it" i believe that as a health professional you should know that each patient has the right to the treatment of their choice!

Doctors always write this in all hospitals:

CARE BUT GOD HEALS You only find this in religious, mostly Nigerian Christian hospitals. It has nothing to do with the facts. If the doctor was nonreligious, you would not find this written in the hospital.

I'm not arguing with you about science because everyone believe in science I am happy you have finally decided to stay away from science and stick to religion.

Each person must choose how to handle that statement, you're not in any position to impose your own interpretation on me be you a scientist or not. This is the beauty of religion, you can give it any interpretation but you don't try that in science.
My point was to stick to what you know. You obviously have some experience discussing religion. stick to that but you clearly don't understand how science works so don't even try.
I have no problem with your beliefs. I wouldn't teach you what to believe but when you began teaching pseudoscience, I felt the need to correct you.

tctrills:

Doctors always write this in all hospitals:
CARE BUT GOD HEALS You only find this in religious, mostly Nigerian Christian hospitals. It has nothing to do with the facts. If the doctor was nonreligious, you would not find this written in the hospital.
I'm not arguing with you about science because everyone believe in science I am happy you have finally decided to stay away from science and stick to religion.
Each person must choose how to handle that statement, you're not in any position to impose your own interpretation on me be you a scientist or not. This is the beauty of religion, you can give it any interpretation but you don't try that in science.
My point was to stick to what you know. You obviously have some experience discussing religion. stick to that but you clearly don't understand how science works so don't even try.
I have no problem with your beliefs. I wouldn't teach you what to believe but when you began teaching pseudoscience, I felt the need to correct you.

I told you from the beginning that SCIENCE must stay on it's own while GOD'S word must stay on it's own, if you choose what SCIENCE say about human health over what God says i'm not in any position to query you just as you have no right to tell me how my own treatment should go simply because you choose SCIENCE over God's word.

Once someone doesn't believe in God then such a person is not qualified to treat me.
Even if such a person believes in Ifa, Sango or Orunmila so far the person believes in the supernatural i will go for treatment in his place but never will i entrust my wellbeing in the hands of someone who gives no glory to God!

rottennaija:


They thrive on ignorance, fear, guilt

This is religion in a nutshell.

Ola17:

This is religion in a nutshell.

That's what atheism wants everyone to believe,
RELIGION SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY

Thanks to God that America has declared FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP. I can choose my own religion and who to mingle with, nobody can force me to associate with people i don't appreciate their line of thought.

So your PERSONAL OPINION is well noted Sir!