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achorladey:
To the bold, you will eventually understand the kind of thinking he parades all over nairaland.

Marketing skills, better performing product he has to sell.

He is really very busy on nairaland. I guess it's a new marketing strategy. Its a smart one though.

MaxInDHouse:
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The world over is feeling the force behind this greatest army of PEACE!
They have conquered so many kingdoms and brought out people for the name of their God and throughout the earth everyone has heard of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Please! Please!! Please!!!
Present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses! [/s]

Research is alien to the average Jehovah witness. I know this organization so well. The Governing Body thinks for you all.


Don't be ridiculous with that stupid false "greatest" claim. Despite 100 of years of false teachings and thousands of false publications put out and withdrawn from public domain by the organization.
They are such a tiny group both on the global stage and on the national stage. It is a proof that Jehovah is not backing them.

JW worldwide=8.5million
JW Nigeria=400,000

Both are not remotely close to 1% of both the total World or Nigeria's population. The organization is actually not making progress for all that years of publishing. Be humble and look at the statistics. In the West, they are get hit with all kinds of exposure both from within and without alongside lawsuits that they are settling with money silently. Africa remains their only hope now and with individuals like me who have awaken to their lies. We will keep spreading the information and in the next 10-20years. You will be shocked with more African ex-JWs that will be coming out boldly. It's gradually happening.
The organization is just like all other false ones.

tctrills:
I am generally interested in religion and you are clearly the most obvious person in this niche. I am beginning to believe you are some kind of marketer for your church. The first time we ever discussed, it was you commenting on my thread.

YES! I'm one out of millions of marketers our Master, Lord and King sent out to sell life's water for FREE! Matthew 10:8 compare to Revelations 22:17
So my friend i am one of the marketers of the Good News of God's Kingdom!

MaxInDHouse:
YES! I'm one out of millions of marketers our Master, Lord and King sent out to sell life's water for FREE! Matthew 10:8 compare to Revelations 22:17
So my friend i am one of the marketers of the Good News of God's Kingdom!

good for you. some of us are just here to pick up on interesting topics and have fun. I am not looking for converts. I am only interested in various opinions about Christianity

Emusan:
Now you're going back to the main point.

No wonder it's 100 years of failed prophecies



Mention one kingdom they conquered.



You're still looking for better group after 100years of fruitless efforts.

Earlier on the thread he was boasting about the +/- 400000 members in Nigeria out of +/- 200 millions of people living in Nigerian. Should that be a milestone to shout on top of the mountain over for 100years, then other Christian religious denominations scattered all over Nigeria should go to heaven and shout it to the ears of everyone since their numbers will be in multiples of theirs equally considering the short span of their existence too .

MaxInDHouse:
YES! I'm one out of millions of marketers our Master, Lord and King sent out to sell life's water for FREE! Matthew 10:8 compare to Revelations 22:17
So my friend i am one of the marketers of the Good News of God's Kingdom!

Marketer of Jesus or better performing group Which one?

Key: your words is filled with little substance.

RussellRutherfo:
Research is alien to the average Jehovah witness. I know this organization so well. The Governing Body thinks for you all.


Don't be ridiculous with that stupid false "greatest" claim. Despite 100 of years of false teachings and thousands of false publications put out and withdrawn from public domain by the organization.
They are such a tiny group both on the global stage and on the national stage. It is a proof that Jehovah is not backing them.

JW worldwide=8.5million
JW Nigeria=400,000

Both are not remotely close to 1% of both the total World or Nigeria's population. The organization is actually not making progress for all that years of publishing. Be humble and look at the statistics. In the West, they are get hit with all kinds of exposure both from within and without alongside lawsuits that they are settling with money silently. Africa remains their only hope now and with individuals like me who have awaken to their lies. We will keep spreading the information and in the next 10-20years. You will be shocked with more African ex-JWs that will be coming out boldly. It's gradually happening.
The organization is just like all other false ones.

OVERHYPE na their mode of operation when research is ALIEN to them

tctrills:
Yes, all scripture is inspired by God not all of the bible. The bible is a collection of books. I think you really need to be humble here. if you do not know the history of the bible I would teach you for free.
God inspired the prophets but the bible contains more than the prophets inspired writings. Songs of Solomon for example has zero gospel teach. It's just soft porn. I am not sure you want your 8 years kid reading it

My friend, ALL SCRIPTURES IS INSPIRED OF GOD AND BENEFITIAL!
Most Bible readers don't understand why the songs of Solomon is included in the scriptures that's said to be inspired of God and benefitial?

Please read the last verse of that chapter:

so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work! 2Timothy 3:17

Now go back and read the songs of Solomon again but this time read carefully, study diligently and meditate thoroughly, you will realize that those songs are useful for a man of God who wants to keep his marriage till death.
If my little child reads it and ask me surely i'll joyously tell him or her that this verses are meant for married couples, so when he/she is ripe for marriage he/she needs those verses to keep his or her marriage!

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, that book (Bible) belongs to us!

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, ALL SCRIPTURES IS INSPIRED OF GOD AND BENEFITIAL!
Most Bible readers don't understand why the songs of Solomon is included in the scriptures that's said to be inspired of God and benefitial?

Please read the last verse of that chapter:

so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work! 2Timothy 3:17

Now go back and read the songs of Solomon again but this time read carefully, study diligently and meditate thoroughly, you will realize that those songs are useful for a man of God who wants to keep his marriage till death.
If my little child reads it and ask me surely i'll joyously tell him or her that this verses are meant for married couples, so when he/she is ripe for marriage he/she needs those verses to keep his or her marriage!

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, that book (Bible) belongs to us!

you just lied. As a child, we had the JW children's bible in our house. it happed to seek songs of Solomon. the wise writers did that for a reason. the bible contains more than the word of God but we can't argue on everything. and paul was long dead when the bible was compiled so clearly his statement to timothy was not referring to the bible as we know it today. the bible did not exist in Pauls days

tctrills:
He is really very busy on nairaland. I guess it's a new marketing strategy. Its a smart one though.

He has a duty to report 10 hours at least monthly as a publisher and as a ministerial servant as he is he equally has to improve on that figure in his quest to become an elder.

Apart from the marketing he is equally counting time to submit to his taskmasters monthly.

His taskmasters even gave them leeway to submit 15 minutes during the corona era.

By now you have the needed information concerning the motivation behind marketing his better performing religious organization.

tctrills:
good for you. some of us are just here to pick up on interesting topics and have fun. I am not looking for converts. I am only interested in various opinions about Christianity

Good!
So dance with people who share your line of thought, we are seriously in search of the lost sheep of the house of our Master, Lord and King! Matthew 10:6; 15:24

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So dance with people who share your line of thought, we are seriously in search of the lost sheep of the house of our Master, Lord and King! Matthew 10:6; 15:24

Actually I enjoy guys like you who see things differently. I find it much fun doing this with you. and I know you enjoy it also. i feel you cant do without these nairaland confrontations

tctrills:
you just lied. As a child, we had the JW children's bible in our house. it happed to seek songs of Solomon. the wise writers did that for a reason. the bible contains more than the word of God but we can't argue on everything. and paul was long dead when the bible was compiled so clearly his statement to timothy was not referring to the bible as we know it today. the bible did not exist in Pauls days

My friend, are you talking about the NWT or My Book Of Bible Stories?
There is no Bible version published by the Watchtower where the songs of Solomon is omitted.
So humble yourself and learn or better still stay with your friends with whom you share the same interest: "having fun"

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, are you talking about the NWT or My Book Of Bible Stories?
There is no Bible version published by the Watchtower where the songs of Solomon is omitted.
So humble yourself and learn or better still stay with your friends with whom you share the same interest: "having fun"

go back to your books

tctrills:
Actually I enjoy guys like you who see things differently. I find it much fun doing this with you. and I know you enjoy it also. i feel you cant do without these nairaland confrontations

We are trained soldiers of the Good News so we love to face challenges but once we notice that the person we're chatting with doesn't share our interest we walk away.
So if you still have more questions i'm around even though you've declared that you're just here catching fun.
We are not directing our blows into tin air, we always do follow up on our works! 1Corinthians 9:26

tctrills:
go back to your books

ALL SCRIPTURES IS INSPIRED OF GOD AND BENEFITIAL!

MaxInDHouse:
ALL SCRIPTURES IS INSPIRED OF GOD AND BENEFITIAL!

is the Book of Mormon Inspired by God? Is the Catholic Bible inspired by God?

tctrills:
I never accused the bible of failing. you have a habit of miss representing me. i said the bible is not a science book and we don't get scientific facts from it.

The Bible teaches no subject so stop deceiving yourself.
It's about humans and how we can live happily on this planet. But when it touches on any subject as in ANY SUBJECT God's word gives accurate information!

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible teaches no subject so stop deceiving yourself.
It's about humans and how we can live happily on this planet. But when it touches on any subject as in ANY SUBJECT God's word gives accurate information!

See this man that was acting like the bible was his science textbook. The bible teaches a subject. Its all about salvation

tctrills:
is the Book of Mormon Inspired by God? Is the Catholic Bible inspired by God?

Are these books included in the 66 books of the Bible?

Perhaps you need some enlightenment here, those 66 books were written by Israelites and scholars have verified that this are the only books written by the Israelites before interested scholars later divided it into 1189 chapter and 31,200 verses.

Any other books outside this is not part of the inspired books Sir!

tctrills:
See this man that was acting like the bible was his science textbook. The bible teaches a subject. Its all about salvation

Is SALVATION part of the faculties in the varsities?

MaxInDHouse:
Are these books included in the 66 books of the Bible?

Perhaps you need some enlightenment here, those 66 books were written by Israelites and scholars have verified that this are the only books written by the Israelites before interested scholars later divided it into 1189 chapter and 31,200 verses.

Any other books outside this is not part of the inspired books Sir!

Now you need to learn, But first you have proved that you don't really believe that all scriptures are inspired. You choose a select number. Now, why did you decide that only 66 books are of God? The bible never mentioned any number of books that are inspired. How did you tell which is inspired and which is not?
Now clear these 66 were not the only books written. if you read the bible you would learn that more than 66 were written

tctrills:
Now you need to learn, But first you have proved that you don't really believe that all scriptures are inspired. You choose a select number. Now, why did you decide that only 66 books are of God? The bible never mentioned any number of books that are inspired. How did you tell which is inspired and which is not?
Now clear these 66 were not the only books written. if you read the bible you would learn that more than 66 were written

Our God is not for confusion {1Corinthians 14:33} so if there are other books INSPIRED outside those 66 books then there can never be oneness in thought as Jesus prayed {John 17:22} because books from different sources will be revered as inspired then there's no way anyone can ascertain right or wrong in worship. 1Corinthians 1:10

Do you now see the reason why Jehovah's Witnesses only trusted those 66 books?

In fact that's why all other religions can't face one direction because they're confused as to which book is inspired of God!

MaxInDHouse:
Our God is not for confusion {1Corinthians 14:33} so if there are other books INSPIRED outside those 66 books then there can never be oneness in thought as Jesus prayed {John 17:22} because books from different sources will be revered as inspired then there's no way anyone can ascertain right or wrong in worship. 1Corinthians 1:10

Do you now see the reason why Jehovah's Witnesses only trusted those 66 books?

In fact that's why all other religions can't face one direction because they're confused as to which book is inspired of God!

I don't get you why does it has to be 66 books for there to be oneness? Why not 45 books or 75 books?
Is 66 the number of oneness?

MaxInDHouse:
Our God is not for confusion {1Corinthians 14:33} so if there are other books INSPIRED outside those 66 books then there can never be oneness in thought as Jesus prayed {John 17:22} because books from different sources will be revered as inspired then there's no way anyone can ascertain right or wrong in worship. 1Corinthians 1:10

Do you now see the reason why Jehovah's Witnesses only trusted those 66 books?

In fact that's why all other religions can't face one direction because they're confused as to which book is inspired of God!

Your theory of 66 does not hold.
Here are a number of books not found in Bible.
book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21:14); book of Jasher (Josh. 10:13; 2 Sam. 1:18); book of the acts of Solomon (1 Kgs. 11:41); book of Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29:29); book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29:29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29:29; 2 Chr. 9:29); prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9:29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9:29; 12:15; 13:22); book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12:15); book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20:34)
an epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col. 4:16); and some prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude (Jude 1:14

MaxInDHouse:
Our God is not for confusion {1Corinthians 14:33} so if there are other books INSPIRED outside those 66 books then there can never be oneness in thought as Jesus prayed {John 17:22} because books from different sources will be revered as inspired then there's no way anyone can ascertain right or wrong in worship. 1Corinthians 1:10

Do you now see the reason why Jehovah's Witnesses only trusted those 66 books?

In fact that's why all other religions can't face one direction because they're confused as to which book is inspired of God!

You claim 66 is God's maximum of inspired works but I have showed you many that were quoted by other writers.
Clearly the guys who complied the bible did a very poor job.
There are obviously lots of lot inspired writings.
So clearly, God did not inspire only 66 books. So if you claim all scripture is inspired, what about the Apocrypha and the Book of Mormon?

MaxInDHouse:
Our God is not for confusion {1Corinthians 14:33} so if there are other books INSPIRED outside those 66 books then there can never be oneness in thought as Jesus prayed {John 17:22} because books from different sources will be revered as inspired then there's no way anyone can ascertain right or wrong in worship. 1Corinthians 1:10

Do you now see the reason why Jehovah's Witnesses only trusted those 66 books?

In fact that's why all other religions can't face one direction because they're confused as to which book is inspired of God!

Initially you claimed all scripture are inspired of God but now you reduce it to just 66 scriptures. What's your final answer.

tctrills:
I don't get you why does it has to be 66 books for there to be oneness? Why not 45 books or 75 books?
Is 66 the number of oneness?

There are 40 Israelites that wrote those 66 book so each writer is known that's why no other book comes in!

tctrills:
Your theory of 66 does not hold.
Here are a number of books not found in Bible.
book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21:14); book of Jasher (Josh. 10:13; 2 Sam. 1:18); book of the acts of Solomon (1 Kgs. 11:41); book of Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29:29); book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29:29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29:29; 2 Chr. 9:29); prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9:29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9:29; 12:15; 13:22); book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12:15); book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20:34)
an epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col. 4:16); and some prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude (Jude 1:14

All books inspired by God has been included that's why those writers were mentioning books that weren't inspired but like history to authenticate the stories so that any of their own people who want to verify the historical accuracy may check those uninspired books.
That's why those ones weren't included!

tctrills:
Initially you claimed all scripture are inspired of God but now you reduce it to just 66 scriptures. What's your final answer.

ALL SCRIPTURES found in the Bible is the point not books outside the Bible!
Moreover you shouldn't forget that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a reason why He inspired those writing those books and if the purpose has been met then mission accomplished.

His purpose is to gather humble and obedient people throughout the earth under one umbrella, teach them what they need to know about His coming Kingdom in Paradise, erase politics and racism from their hearts, make them sheeplike in order not to think of weapons or wars anymore ! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Once the above is done then there is proof that the books used to accomplish it is exactly what the Author intended to pass to His people!

Yorùbá people has an adage:

Ewé ń jẹ́, Oògùn ń jẹ́, Oògùn tí ò jẹ́ ewé rẹ̀ ló kù kan
Loosely translated
Herbs do cure, Medicines do heal, it's when an ingredient is missing that such a medicine fails

James said:

Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.”

So my friend, Jehovah's Witnesses have gone round the world and they have brought out people from all races, and they've taught them how to love their neighbours just as the love themselves, they have eradicated politics and racism from their hearts so that none of them engages in politics no matter how Satan is brandishing it before them, they have erased the use of weapons from their hearts and stop them from learning about wars {Isaiah 2:2-4} all these they accomplished with the use of those 66 books. That's why Satan is using all these critics to speak against God's people.
I'm bearing them witness today that most of them don't know what they're doing {Luke 23:34} some of them are simply overzealous for the religions of their parents thinking they're also Christians {Romans 10:2-3} so when they come in contact with Jehovah's Witnesses who proved their religion false they are provoked and they begin looking for ways to sort of retaliate. But some among them are really Satan agents who knew God's people have the truth, they just want more hands to attack God's people.
For the ignorant ones among them we pray for their salvation before it's too late but as for the agents of Satan among them we tell them that their wages is waiting for them.
God's people has been separated today from Babylon the Great {Revelations 18:4} the narrow path is clearly spelt out while the broad road is also obvious {Matthew 7:13-14} that's why we always tell them what often makes them go crazy:

If you people say Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong, please present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

This is one sentence that will save any sincere individual following them, such a person only need to ask himself:
"Who are all these people merging against the JWs? And to what religion do they belong?
Of course most of them will claim they're Christians but ask yourself "do all these other religions agree to be one? Aren't they also contradicting themselves? Then why have they all agreed just to form alliance against Jehovah's Witnesses? After all the JWs can also be considered as another denomination just as they're all claiming!

The truth is Satan is the ruler of the world {Luke 4:6; John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} and all the religions on this planet belongs to him except the one headed by Jesus Christ {Matthew 7:13-14} so the same treatment Satan and his agents gave Jesus and his first century followers is what Satan and his agents will always give Jesus' true followers! Matthew 10:22-25; John 15:19

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
ALL SCRIPTURES found in the Bible is the point not books outside the Bible!
Moreover you shouldn't forget that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a reason why He inspired those writing those books and if the purpose has been met then mission accomplished.

His purpose is to gather humble and obedient people throughout the earth under one umbrella, teach them what they need to know about His coming Kingdom in Paradise, erase politics and racism from their hearts, make them sheeplike in order not to think of weapons or wars anymore ! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Once the above is done then there is proof that the books used to accomplish it is exactly what the Author intended to pass to His people!

Yorùbá people has an adage:

Ewé ń jẹ́, Oògùn ń jẹ́, Oògùn tí ò jẹ́ ewé rẹ̀ ló kù kan
Loosely translated
Herbs do cure, Medicines do heal, it's when an ingredient is missing that such a medicine fails

James said:

Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.”

So my friend, Jehovah's Witnesses have gone round the world and they have brought out people from all races, and they've taught them how to love their neighbours just as the love themselves, they have eradicated politics and racism from their hearts so that none of them engages in politics no matter how Satan is brandishing it before them, they have erased the use of weapons from their hearts and stop them from learning about wars {Isaiah 2:2-4} all these they accomplished with the use of those 66 books. That's why Satan is using all these critics to speak against God's people.
I'm bearing them witness today that most of them don't know what they're doing {Luke 23:34} some of them are simply overzealous for the religions of their parents thinking they're also Christians {Romans 10:2-3} so when they come in contact with Jehovah's Witnesses who proved their religion false they are provoked and they begin looking for ways to sort of retaliate. But some among them are really Satan agents who knew God's people have the truth, they just want more hands to attack God's people.
For the ignorant ones among them we pray for their salvation before it's too late but as for the agents of Satan among them we tell them that their wages is waiting for them.
God's people has been separated today from Babylon the Great {Revelations 18:4} the narrow path is clearly spelt out while the broad road is also obvious {Matthew 7:13-14} that's why we always tell them what often makes them go crazy:

If you people say Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong, please present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

This is one sentence that will save any sincere individual following them, such a person only need to ask himself:
"Who are all these people merging against the JWs? And to what religion do they belong?
Of course most of them will claim they're Christians but ask yourself "do all these other religions agree to be one? Aren't they also contradicting themselves? Then why have they all agreed just to form alliance against Jehovah's Witnesses? After all the JWs can also be considered as another denomination just as they're all claiming!

The truth is Satan is the ruler of the world {Luke 4:6; John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} and all the religions on this planet belongs to him except the one headed by Jesus Christ {Matthew 7:13-14} so the same treatment Satan and his agents gave Jesus and his first century followers is what Satan and his agents will always give Jesus' true followers! Matthew 10:22-25; John 15:19

May you have PEACE!

Watch Out for Self-Righteousness!

IN THE first century, the Pharisees enjoyed the good reputation of being righteous worshipers of God. They were earnest students of the Scriptures and prayed frequently. Some people viewed them as being gentle and reasonable. Jewish historian Josephus wrote: “The Pharisees are affectionate to each other and cultivate harmonious relations with the community.” No wonder they were probably the most respected and highly regarded individuals in Jewish society at that time!

However, today the word “Pharisaic” and related terms are derogatory, synonymous with sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-thou, overpious, and giving lip service. Why did the Pharisees lose their good name?

It was because, unlike most Jews, Jesus Christ was not deceived by the Pharisees’ outer appearance. He compared them to “whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness.”​—Matthew 23:27.


A Superior Attitude

What are some of the traits that we must “watch out” for? Self-righteous individuals usually “speak, and stand, and look as if they had never done a wrong,” explains the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics. The self-righteous are also boastful and self-promoting, which was a major problem with the Pharisees.


MaxInDHouse compare and contrast what your religious organisation and leaders publishes and your actions and activities here. The pictures should be clear without explanations.

MaxInDHouse:
All books inspired by God has been included that's why those writers were mentioning books that weren't inspired but like history to authenticate the stories so that any of their own people who want to verify the historical accuracy may check those uninspired books.
That's why those ones weren't included!

Who compiled the 66 books? Who decided what was inspired or not. You claim Paul's letterm to the Ladocians was an uninspired writing of Paul?
Or that the book of Samuel the prophet was uninspired?
How did you decide what was inspired and what is not? What is your yardstick?