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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Eriokanmi: 12:28am On Jan 05, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:


Lol so you didn't know that Isreal is a democracy and a liberal one at that even abortion is legal.

No wonder Jesus asked His disciple if He would meet faith/religion on earth by the time He returns. He sees the end from the beginning. Its not even 3,000 years after His ascension and things are going upside down already. The whole world isn't healthy anymore as it used to be...any sensible being would know that the end is near cos most of the things the bible had predicted are happening already in our very eyes. We need to come to true repentance cos e go shock many when the rapture eventually takes place. It would be like a joke like the way covid started unannounced.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by GodIsBiafran: 12:28am On Jan 05, 2022
tsinzu:

Israel is not occupying palestine

Israel is not occupying Palestine? Your stupidity get PhD.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by GodIsBiafran: 12:31am On Jan 05, 2022
RenaissanceGuy:
Many years ago, I used to be very emotional about the modern Israelites and how they were God's special people who can never be defeated in a war. Thank God I now know better.

You are still a fool because you still believe that the God of the bible is the almighty God.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 12:31am On Jan 05, 2022
abeeee:

The bible said the woman should submit to the man or rather wife to husband

And what the heck do you mean by "don't believe in gender construct "
I am not a Christian or under the authority of the Bible so this doesn't apply to me because I am not a part of the people of Ephesians Apostle Paul was writing his epistle to.

I don't support societal defined stereotypes on gender roles if you cannot understand what that means then I can't help you.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by abeeee(m): 12:35am On Jan 05, 2022
Hub
Ladyhippolyta88:

I am not a Christian or under the authority of the Bible so this doesn't apply to me because I am not a part of the people of Ephesians Apostle Paul was writing his epistle to.

I don't support societal defined stereotypes on gender roles if you cannot understand what that means then I can't help you.
Stop being deceived

A man is a man and a woman is a woman .......they have certain traits and rudiments that are defined in them biologically so don't get decieved
Males and females aren't equal

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Arrowss(m): 12:39am On Jan 05, 2022
The Jews left Jesus for the gentiles, such is life, sometimes, the people that started a thing are not the ones that will finish it. The whites are leaving God for Africans.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by 2mNaira: 12:42am On Jan 05, 2022
1Sharon:


Lol they're so Clueless I swear. Alot of Israelis are actually atheists.

Oh and they hate Christianity.

No, Christians don't believe Isreal is a Christian state. They believe the hold a special place in God's heart and plans because of his promise to Abraham.

Yes, they have hated Christianity right from Bible days. According to the Bible, Isreal will remain In this fallen state until the dispensation of the Gentiles is over .


Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.


Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Read Romans 9,10 and 11 for details.
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 12:42am On Jan 05, 2022
abeeee:
Hub
Stop being deceived

A man is a man and a woman is a woman .......they have certain traits and rudiments that are defined in them biologically so don't get decieved
Males and females aren't equal

Nobody is arguing about a man or woman being what we already know that they are and we are not talking about transgender people here.

I understand biology and nature and not arguing about or against that however what I am against are societal defined roles of what makes a man and how he should be or vice versa that I have an issue with a notable example is that there is no evidence that women cannot lead or make bad leaders but society which encompasses religion has made us believe that leadership is a male responsibility or that men are built for that however no solid biological or natural stats to prove that and women in recent times having good leadership skills has already kicked that societal stereotype off balance I can go on and on about gender stereotypical roles created by society and how it limits women hence why many are fighting back.

Also nobody said men and women are the same even women are not the same with women or men the same with men(which is where you base equality) however we are equal in the sense that we deserve equal opportunities, rights, responsibilities and many more asking for an equal playing field and rights doesn't necessarily translate to it meaning men and women are the same or equal however there should be equity and fairness and how we treat people should be based on that free from discrimination and that is the equality many clamour for so get your own facts right and don't be deceived.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by HBB1(m): 12:43am On Jan 05, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:


At this point, whoever takes this one serious on this forum needs to have their head checked

You are just a comic relief grin grin


Confused human being!
cheesy grin

At least e no talk nomerica today!

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by 1Sharon(f): 12:45am On Jan 05, 2022
2mNaira:


No, Christians don't believe Isreal is a Christian state. They believe the hold a special place in God's heart and plans because of his promise to Abraham.

Yes, they have hated Christianity right from Bible days. According to the Bible, Isreal will remain In this fallen state until the dispensation of the Gentiles is over .


Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.


Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Read Romans 9,10 and 11 for details.

Share those verses to whoever cares because myself and Jews certainly don't.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Linesman(m): 12:50am On Jan 05, 2022
Like SERIOUSLY!!!
LESBIANISM, HOMOSEXUALISM, GAYISM, BISEXUALISM, INCESTISM, BEASTIALISM AND OTHER FORMS OF SEXUAL IMMORALITIES ARE PRACTICE IN GOD'S OWN LAND.
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Jacksonian001(m): 12:52am On Jan 05, 2022
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by abeeee(m): 1:02am On Jan 05, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:


Nobody is arguing about a man or woman being what we already know that they are and we are not talking about transgender people here.

I understand biology and nature and not arguing about or against that however what I am against are societal defined roles of what makes a man and how he should be or vice versa that I have an issue with a notable example is that there is no evidence that women cannot lead or make bad leaders but society which encompasses religion has made us believe that leadership is a male responsibility or that men are built for that however no solid biological or natural stats to prove that and women in recent times having good leadership skills has already kicked that societal stereotype off balance I can go on and on about gender stereotypical roles created by society and how it limits women hence why many are fighting back.

Also nobody said men and women are the same even women are not the same with women or men the same with men(which is where you base equality) however we are equal in the sense that we deserve equal opportunities, rights, responsibilities and many more asking for an equal playing field and rights doesn't necessarily translate to it meaning men and women are the same or equal however there should be equity and fairness and how we treat people should be based on that free from discrimination and that is the equality many clamour for so get your own facts right and don't be deceived.
There is already an equal playing field for both genders .....you are only now asking men to step down despite their performance and better capacity which is bad

And also it hasn't been proven anywhere that women has better leadership skills instead the opposite has been the case
Most civilizations and societies that collapsed happened after they had female leaders or after moving towards gynocentrism


And in life there are no fields of endeavour where women have proven to be better than men in terms of output and performance .....the best in all fields keeps being men and I am talking about in the last few decades where men has fallen
Science
Art
Music
Sports
Military
Cooking
You name it
Or you could otherwise name fields where women has proven so

The role where women beat men in life always is in keeping and raising the home which by the way is one of the most important roles in society

But you have been lied to and told that you shouldn't be in the kitchen as if that's the only part of the home so you are asked to go out and work or pursue careers while the home is left empty as both parents are out and the kids are left to who knows to gather ideas and basic virtues as so therefore society has been collapsing
Well I only blame the assholes who brought up the lie in western countries so as to double the work force and taxes ....they will reap rewards in full soon



Science

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by 2mNaira: 1:04am On Jan 05, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:

@bold, delusion not this same Isreal of today founded in 1948 grin

I don't understand this your post. Do you mind clarifying it? What is delusion here? Isrealites are the offspring of Abraham.

If you have read the Bible you would realise that the Isrealites have done worse than the attrocities mention here ever since the old testament periods. Many times they stopped believing in God and worshipped idols. They even started emulating other nations around them by offering their children to molech. The practised homosexuslity. What God did each time their attrocities reached Astronomical dimensions was to evict them from the land of Isreal through defeal war and scatter them into the different nations of the world through captivity. Each time they repent and call on him he returns them back to their land.

What is happening in Isreal now is nothing new. There is absolutely no reason to believe that the people in Isreal now are not the offspring of Abraham. Even if none of them believe in Jehovah, that I'd still not enough proof .
I am quite aware that many Isrealites are Muslims, many are atheists, and many practice Judaism. That still means nothing. Bible has clearly stated that Isreal is currently in the period of falling away until the dispensation of the Gentiles is over. This means that God is at the moment focusing on the Salvation of Gentiles while they wallow in attrocities.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by JaskanFactor: 1:16am On Jan 05, 2022
no need to fuss, thier time is up
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by 2mNaira: 1:23am On Jan 05, 2022
1Sharon:


What makes them god's own people? This is what we're talking about.


They are God's own people because they are offspring of Abraham. God made an everlasting covenant with Abraham. Since you don't appreciate reference to the Bible, just take my words for it.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by grandstar(m): 1:37am On Jan 05, 2022
isaiah4life:
Where dey born Jesus! cry

A land of pilgrimage is now a land soiled with atrocities.

How banal.

The jews even rejected Jesus

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Tzar(m): 1:42am On Jan 05, 2022
I thought the Torah abhors homosexuality?!
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by bepositive11: 2:25am On Jan 05, 2022
jmoore:
LGBTQ is an association of insane individuals.

You love homosexuality but you want to reproduce with heterosexuality. Foolish people!

They should have mixed sperm from two men to form a baby. Or use the egg of a woman to fertilize an egg of another woman.

The hypocrisy. Not to talk of the negative psychological impact that surrogacy will have on the children

Can't believe people allowing this

If you want to be a homosexual, fine but don't go trying to bring in children heterosexually

I really wonder how children of homosexuals cope

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by dfhsd: 2:27am On Jan 05, 2022
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by sylve11: 2:34am On Jan 05, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:


This your question get as e be how does my marital
status concern feminism,where are you driving at cheesy

Make you dey use alternate ackl dey fool yourself. cool
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by AntiBMC(m): 2:49am On Jan 05, 2022
musicwriter:


The people living in Israel today are not the same as the Israelites discussed in the bible, rather they're just like other white colonialists in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa where they took over the lands of native people and made theirs. There's nothing in history that said white people lived in that region in ancient time, except Greece and Rome who were foreigners.

Herodotus (the father of European history) visited there in about 450 BC. Here's what Herodotus said about the people living in Palestine, Egypt and environ "whereas after snow has fallen rain must necessarily come within five days, so that if it snowed in those parts rain would fall there; the third evidence is afforded by the people dwelling there, who are of a black colour by reason of the burning heat. Moreover kites and swallows.

In another chapter, Herodotus again said "still the Egyptians said that they believed the Colchians to be descended from the army of Sesostris. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too; but further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians (Nubians), are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times". This is contained in the book: an account of Egypt- by Herodotus.

Take note that he said "the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians (Nubians), are the only nations on earth who have practised circumcision from the earliest times." This is important because we have been lied to that white people in Israel calling themselves Jews were the first to practice circumcision. But history says otherwise!! Herodotus inadvertently confirmed that the Israelites, Hebrews, Canaanites of the bible were black people. Remember this is not about religion or for religious purposes. I no longer believe in the bible god because it doesn't exist. I am just interested in the sheer history.

Thanks bro. This explains a lot.

However, about the Bible God ish, there's got to be some entity responsible for creation. Cos I mean, I've almost seen first-hand, some spiritual mysteries that prove for a fact that there are mystical powers, malevolent powers/entities (e.g the kind responsible for money rituals, ghosts or of people who have died yet are able to come back, marry and have children etc)

And like everything else in the world that has an opposite ( e.g, darkness and light, love and hate), there must be entities with powers that are quite the opposite of the aforementioned. If you get what I mean.

I don't really know for sure...buh it's kind of a head-scratcher.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Onyiiobi7735(m): 2:58am On Jan 05, 2022
isaiah4life:
Where dey born Jesus! cry

A land of pilgrimage is now a land soiled with atrocities.

How banal.
Very sad.Until we realize that Satan has great power and does all he could to bring millions to damnation, we can't prevail against him.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Onyiiobi7735(m): 3:00am On Jan 05, 2022
illicit:
I laugh at religious people

We don't need religions

We need just common sense
Religious people are often controlled by religious spirits,and that's one big problem.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Microwhy: 3:48am On Jan 05, 2022
judedwriter:
Israel means 'prince with God.'

Despite their rejection of Christianity, because of God's covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they remain a special people to God.

But God will never force salvation on anyone.


Still deceiving yourself..

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Afritop(m): 4:05am On Jan 05, 2022
This is the time Iran should pounce on them. Israel have forgotten that these are the abominable acts they exercised that made Assyria pounce in them, Babylon use them them, Persia hold until them and Romans made fun of them.
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by ndukwejoe(m): 4:17am On Jan 05, 2022
He said the truth


Ladyhippolyta88:


At this point, whoever takes this one serious on this forum needs to have their head checked

You are just a comic relief grin grin
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by cococandy(f): 4:29am On Jan 05, 2022
How do I give this a few more likes?
Ladyhippolyta88:


I am not a radical,your friend on the other hand could be a Christian and her stance on submission is as a result of her religious beliefs and feminism doesn't necessarily stop a woman from submitting but then it should be her choice to make and not one of force.I understand and see feminism as a woman's right to choose what is best for her and not society's stereotypes on what she should be.

I personally cringe at submission and I don't consider myself Christian to be swayed into submission if I choose to submit to my man it is a choice I chose to make as a woman and not because Apostle Paul or anybody told me so.The English dictionary definition of submission doesn't sit well with me so I can't consider myself submissive to anybody but rather respectful and compromising which is something that should be reciprocal from both sides.

My view of marriage is one of an agreement between two persons who adopts what works for them I see it as a partnership between two friends who sacrifice, tolerate, understand and compromise where necessary.I am not a fan of gender stereotypes so that concept of man provides woman submits or help meets doesn't sit well with me.
I am still a feminist and nothing changes that for me

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by dRefiner: 4:56am On Jan 05, 2022
Isreal oh Isreal..why na? why? remember... Ye are the people of GOD. Remember the covenant wit him. Remember! Remember!! Remember!!!
Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by armyofone(m): 5:12am On Jan 05, 2022
Righteousness2:
These are of sons and Daughters of Belai in Israel.
The Sons and Daughters of Perdition in Israel.
The Generation of the likes of Jeroboam, Jezebel, Ahab and others who caused the wrath of GOD to Destroy the people

GOD is not a respecter of Persons, these Evil, abominable and Wicked ones will taste the Wrath of GOD.

Continue to do your sons and daughters of this and that and Saul's wife is the pillar of salt you use to cook soup while the western countries move on.

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by Babasonny(m): 5:34am On Jan 05, 2022
The fast we realize that religion is a problem to the world, the better for us.
Religion is evil.........

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Re: Same-Sex Couples Can Now Opt For Surrogacy In Israel by UncleKoboko: 5:36am On Jan 05, 2022
Righteousness2:
[s]These are of sons and Daughters of Belai in Israel.
The Sons and Daughters of Perdition in Israel.
The Generation of the likes of Jeroboam, Jezebel, Ahab and others who caused the wrath of GOD to Destroy the people

GOD is not a respecter of Persons, these Evil, abominable and Wicked ones will taste the Wrath of GOD.[/s]
Shame on you and your Israel.

Hypocrites

Your own come add idio cy

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