DaddyGoo:


Of course the Service has AK47s in armory.

As the most common automatic infantry weapon in the world, it only makes sense to have some, even if just for training and familiarity.

This is just like asking if the USA have AK47s in their numerous armouries.

As for use on DSS operations, I leave it to those who know more to answer you.

I always wondered about the trench coats too, but seeing as the local alternative is Agbada, it's kinda obvious why they chose the coats.

Whyem15:



RCWS on land systems are relatively new concepts and most armies are just fielding it as such it will be very difficult to find the type of videos you are asking for. But theoretically, it is a fact that RCWS are designed for precision and efficiency. I will search YouTube for the video, if I find, I will post and if I don't, the absence of such video evidence does not prove or disprove anything other than the fact that it hasn't been recorded in battle.


Mind you, the navy and airforce has been operating forms of RCWS for years and there are several videos of it's effectiveness.

bidexiii:
More improvisation by ISWAP appears in Buni Yadi. The fabricated vehicle has what appears to be sections of NA Phantom II APC.

jpphilips:


RCWS in action on land is not as accurate as you think, the major problem being sensor obfuscation by terrain, buildings & trees, the sensor Algorithm needs to be fast to interprete these obstacles real quick.
In practice, the gunner still makes these decisions reducing response time.
The opposite is the case in water & air.

This challenge is the reason there is no Land based CIWS till date, so many are at the development stage, none has scaled through.
In summary, all land based RCWS dont operate on "Auto" mode to give that accuracy you desire.

RiceProducers:


Thank you for restating this technical fact which some of us have mentioned quite a few times. Some contributors on this thread have video game fuelled immaturity and are quite mentally timid when faced with embellished data sheets on the Internet.

The time wey we dey tell you to read your science and intro tech for skull, una dey play video game.

komekn:


Very funny , ignorance is bliss.

You may find this hard to believe but one of the requirements for the British Army for new recruits. Is a good skill set honed from playing military war games on PS4/5 and other platforms. Ha ha you must think that's very immature.


When we talk about RWS ,you also have semi remote with a turret and target acquisition software , stabilised and incorporated with night day high resolution cameras with thermal imaging converged with your laser range finder

Your RWS will be stabilized that means even when in motion on rough terrain your target software will make the correct compensation as well as does the TARGET TRACKING

If you use a static RWS then you will 95% of the time have HIGH LEVEL elevation giving you spatial awareness and clear unobstructed over sight vision of up to 10km depending on the system you have.

The idea that you will have obstruction because of shrubs , undulations in terrain and buildings particularly with FLIR incorporated in your system. Is honestly a nonsensical proposition without substance.

I'll try and find a few YouTube video clips ,as they say , a picture says a thousand words and I guess a video says a million.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxLkkgodLg4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJnM0bEUpd8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAvFkeBXeoc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry_mzmFkFTs

ecomog1990:


Wow !!!

These videos prove science & tech of RCWS making those talking against it ignoramus olodoses

Its exactly what Nigerian Army needs to end this war, one cheap 700k IFV-MRAP in each LGA to be leading patrols convoy five Landcruiser Buffalos is two platoons of motorized infantry of 3 vehicles each stationed as garrison permanent. This war ends finally. Only suicide vest madmens go remain for DSS & FCID.

See waste, NA mounted foolishly a $2,000 PKM 7.62mm on giant Typhoon MRAP of half a million dollars, compared to Mali putting RCWS 14.7mm on Marauder MRAP.

No wonder all NA does is repel today same ISWAP attacks again tomorrow, endless circle. Use RCWS with explosive ammo and destroy ISWAP guntrucks beyond repair.

ecomog1990:


Its exactly what Nigerian Army needs to end this war, one cheap 700k IFV-MRAP in each LGA to be leading patrols convoy five Landcruiser Buffalos is two platoons of motorized infantry of 3 vehicles each stationed as garrison permanent. This war ends finally. Only suicide vest madmens go remain for DSS & FCID.

Whyem15:


The terrorists will take out the IFV-MRAP with IEDs or direct artillery fire, maybe a recoiless riffle too and the troops in the soft skins will be used for target practice.
While RCWS will confer a lot of advantages over the terrorists, protected mobility is more urgently needed in the frontlines. There is nothing the RCWS has to offer that the ST1s and the modern tanks already in the frontlines are not offering and even more. If the target is too small or too lightly amoured to be taken out by the turrets main gun, the coaxial 7.62mm or the RWS 12.7mm mounted on the roof of the turret will take care of it.

I will rather prefer a fighting column of MRAPs/APCs with one or two ST1 tank destroyers. In the event that the ST1 get destroyed, the column would still have a fighting chance. All that is needed is just to buy a few more ST1s and VT4s alongside the MRAPs/APCs we are buying in large quantities.
When the need for protected mobility has been satisfied, it will take little time and effort to upgrade the MRAPs and APCs and fix RWS on them. That is what optimization is and I believe that is what the military is currently doing.

The ST1 tank destroyers, VT4 tanks and the other systems are multiple purpose and can serve in different battle situations. It is only prudent that we go for multi-role platforms now before dedicated platforms especially as we are faced with limited resources. We just have to optimize.

ecomog1990:


Illiterate comments. How will terrorist take out RCWS IFV-MRAP with IED when IFV-MRAP resists 8kg TNT of IED? Direct artillery how many Mod 56 Howitzer does ISWAP BHT have, because you saw one in photo, do they have 100 artilleries? RCWS has 24/7 day-night vision, laser range, ballistic computer, 360° view all round battlefield, its TV screen sounds alerts if any human enters its scan zone 7km away, how far km range can human eye of terrorist slew Artillery in direct mode to take out RCWS vehicle that fires accurate 95% to 2km 4km range? It will fire scatter that ISWAP artillery vehicle into pieces.


Anybody debating you wastes time, people like you see proof and still insist on liking error, your type is reason 100,000 Nigerians died avoidable death. Shame we have such Nigerians who drive this nation into wreckage with selfish bad ideas. No be abuse no be insult na comment pls.

Whyem15:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OqmoHBvB0c


As with every system, RCWS isn't without it's weak points and blindspot, but with improvement in the development of fire control systems, RCWS are increasingly becoming autonomous requiring very little human input to achieve insane precision and effectiveness. Terrain is also a major headache in air warfare, aircrafts hide behind mountains and other highlands to defeat air defense radars, terrorists use caves and tunnels to evade air attacks.
And even when the enemy is using geigraphy/terrain for cover, the vehicle on which the RCWS is installed can simply be moved to a position where a clear line of sight is achievable. Trees and houses are fixed structures and have different physical and chemical properties from normal battlefield targets and as such will be captured differently by the sensors. If thermal sensors doesn't detect the differences, motion sensors or any of the other sensors included in the fire control systems will.
I did not claim that RCWS is perfect, only that it confers several advantages over manual turrets and gunners.

jpphilips:


Even your test video showed clearly it isnt Quick enough for real combat scenario, nobody goes into battle to cherry pick target the way the video showed, so why should Nigeria get it & to what end?
Nigeria could invest in target acquisition systems for their MRAPS anything more is a bloody waste of resources.
I used CIWS to give you an example how RCWS is expected to perform in terms of target acquisition, response & rate of fire, you didnt seem to understand that part, read to think.
here is a video of a CIWS (a sea based RCWS) then juxtapose with that joke video of yours.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGdjIpddphM

Dont come back to blab you didnt say it is perfect, if you know that much why recommend it?
Until Land based RCWS are perfected like CIWS, nobody should be talking about it.

ecomog1990:


Wow !!!

These videos prove science & tech of RCWS making those talking against it ignoramus olodoses

Its exactly what Nigerian Army needs to end this war, one cheap 700k IFV-MRAP in each LGA to be leading patrols convoy five Landcruiser Buffalos is two platoons of motorized infantry of 3 vehicles each stationed as garrison permanent. This war ends finally. Only suicide vest madmens go remain for DSS & FCID.

See waste, NA mounted foolishly a $2,000 PKM 7.62mm on giant Typhoon MRAP of half a million dollars, compared to Mali putting RCWS 14.7mm on Marauder MRAP.

No wonder all NA does is repel today same ISWAP attacks again tomorrow, endless circle. Use RCWS with explosive ammo and destroy ISWAP guntrucks beyond repair.

komekn:


Very funny , ignorance is bliss.

You may find this hard to believe but one of the requirements for the British Army for new recruits. Is a good skill set honed from playing military war games on PS4/5 and other platforms. Ha ha you must think that's very immature.


When we talk about RWS ,you also have semi remote with a turret and target acquisition software , stabilised and incorporated with night day high resolution cameras with thermal imaging converged with your laser range finder

Your RWS will be stabilized that means even when in motion on rough terrain your target software will make the correct compensation as well as does the TARGET TRACKING

If you use a static RWS then you will 95% of the time have HIGH LEVEL elevation giving you spatial awareness and clear unobstructed over sight vision of up to 10km depending on the system you have.

The idea that you will have obstruction because of shrubs , undulations in terrain and buildings particularly with FLIR incorporated in your system. Is honestly a nonsensical proposition without substance.

I'll try and find a few YouTube video clips ,as they say , a picture says a thousand words and I guess a video says a million.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxLkkgodLg4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJnM0bEUpd8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAvFkeBXeoc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry_mzmFkFTs

All your video showed "Tracking" in auto mode, I didnt see a single fire engagement in auto mode, pls correct me if I'm wrong, I hope you understand what that means, needless to mention the $200k price tag each, for a country still driving Hilux in battle field.

youghs:


You don't understand the concept of RWS.
It's not meant to be like CIWS

jpphilips:


Isnt that my first comment? any Land based RWS that cant deliver like CIWS is useless, I even explained the limitations of these land based systems in auto mode, if you cant engage your MRAP mounted RWS in auto track & destroy mode while on Patrol, it is not worth it.
That joy stick BS you saw in those videos has no role in combat, one ambush bang you wont know where to place those fingers.
Combat is different from advertisement.

jpphilips:


Even your test video showed clearly it isnt Quick enough for real combat scenario, nobody goes into battle to cherry pick target the way the video showed, so why should Nigeria get it & to what end?
Nigeria could invest in target acquisition systems for their MRAPS anything more is a bloody waste of resources.
I used CIWS to give you an example how RCWS is expected to perform in terms of target acquisition, response & rate of fire, you didnt seem to understand that part, read to think.
here is a video of a CIWS (a sea based RCWS) then juxtapose with that joke video of yours.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGdjIpddphM

Dont come back to blab you didnt say it is perfect, if you know that much why recommend it?
Until Land based RCWS are perfected like CIWS, nobody should be talking about it.

jpphilips:


Isnt that my first comment? any Land based RWS that cant deliver like CIWS is useless, I even explained the limitations of these land based systems in auto mode, if you cant engage your MRAP mounted RWS in auto track & destroy mode while on Patrol, it is not worth it.

jpphilips:

That joy stick BS you saw in those videos has no role in combat, one ambush bang you wont know where to place those fingers.
Combat is different from advertisement.

bidexiii:
Thank God for life !
Look at what my boys survived today in the N.E theatre today.

bidexiii:
Thank God for life !
Look at what my boys survived today in the N.E theatre today.

SuperSixSeven:

The targeting auto-mode assists the operators target acquisition, a gyro-stabilised turret works perfectly while the platform is moving!! Dont you understand how a RCWS works?





RCWS is a mature and combat proven system adopted by many armys. Target acquisition is faster and magnitudes more accurate than a manual controlled turret. Spraying bullets while praying to hit something has been proven not to work too well on the battlefield.

bidexiii:
Thank God for life !
Look at what my boys survived today in the N.E theatre today.

RiceProducers:


Thank God for MRAPs. The FG should put money into the local manufacturing of hundreds of MRAPs in conjunction with Turkey and Nigeria's Proforce.

BTW, this vehicle can be back on the road in a week inspite of the damage

jl115:
to much damage... That's a write of bru

bidexiii:
Thank God for life !
Look at what my boys survived today in the N.E theatre today.

RiceProducers:


This is a lie. In the fog of battle, target acquisition is not faster. The gunner also does not have as much situational awareness as a manual gunner. Situational awareness in sights and sounds and relative positions of friendly and opposing forces.

bidexiii:
Thank God for life !
Look at what my boys survived today in the N.E theatre today.