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According to the law of conservation of energy
Energy and matter cannot be destroy but transformed from one form to another, right?

That's not the definition of the law of Conservation of mass.

First of all, that is only for ideal closed systems, so it's not something you can apply to the real world very well anyway.
Secondly, it is talking about mass, not matter. Energy has/is mass.
Third, in general relativity, mass and energy conservation in expanding volumes is not necessarily conserved.

Bros you are still a small boy in this department. Don't you know that Energy and Mass are related through the Einstein's theory of Relativity(E=MC^2)? Mtchww...all these secondarians go just read one page come dey show ignorance

Ammishaddai:
Bros you are still a small boy in this department. Don't you know that Energy and Mass are related through the Einstein's theory of Relativity(E=MC^2)? Mtchww...all these secondarians go just read one page come dey show ignorance

U are very ignorant!

The Law of the conservation of matter and energy only holds true in a closed system.
It does not hold true in an open system.

Steep:
The Law of the conservation of matter and energy only holds true in a closed system.
It does not hold true in an open system.

The universe is a closed system. So where does the mass in it escape to ? Can you see you're a small boy...

How does this relate to the religion section? They go soon tell us say matter is Omniscient and Alpha and Omega. Comedians.

To assume the Law of conservation of matter and energy to be true in a universal scale is to assume the universe to be a closed system, which itself creates bigger problem such as the boundary of the universe and what exist outside the boundary of space.

Ammishaddai:
The universe is a closed system. So where does the mass in it escape to ? Can you see you're a small boy...

Do you have an account of all the mass in the universe?

Your are ignorant! The universe is considered an isolated system not a close system

Image123:
How does this relate to the religion section? They go soon tell us say matter is Omniscient and Alpha and Omega. Comedians.

they already did

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Steep:
Do you have an account of all the mass in the universe?

Your are ignorant! The universe is considered an isolated system not a close system

[/s] You're still talking ignorantly. Newtonian mechanics and thermodynamics have proven this over and over again and have simulated this to the universe . Which is why I said the universe is a close system mumu

the law of thermodynamics says we are running out of ‘usable’ energy that can not be replaced. Therefore, there cannot be infinite energy. Also, we also arrive at the conclusion that the universe and energy must have had a beginning, and must have an end. If the universe was always existent and never had any origin point and was eternal itself, we would have run out of usable energy an infinite amount of time ago. So therefore, we have limited energy that must end, and the energy itself cannot be infinite or eternal because that means it would have always existed, and if it were always existent, our finite energy would have been depleted over an infinite time span.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You're still talking ignorantly. Newtonian mechanics and thermodynamics have proven this over and over again and have simulated this to the universe . Which is why I said the universe is a close system mumu

Take your stupidty out of my thread

Steep:
Take your stupidty out of my thread

Na so ignorance dey talk. Yeye

There was a female physicist that proposed a theory called the Noether's theory.
This theory suggested that the Law of conservation a is a law of symmetry.
Which means the law of conservation is only on a condition of symmetry.

Therefore to assume that energy/matter is eternal is to assume one knows all the conditions even before the big bang.

Steep:
they already did

Comical

Image123:
Comical

Do you want your family to weep?

Steep:
According to the law of conservation of energy
Energy and matter cannot be destroy but transformed from one form to another, right?

That's not the definition of the law of Conservation of mass.

First of all, that is only for ideal closed systems, so it's not something you can apply to the real world very well anyway.
Secondly, it is talking about mass, not matter. Energy has/is mass.
Third, in general relativity, mass and energy conservation in expanding volumes is not necessarily conserved.

Entropy show that Matter is NOT eternal
Energy of course should be eternal only that USABLE energy will be zero

Crystyano:
Do you want your family to weep?

No. Do you?

Image123:
No. Do you?

My family has had to face certain things....as for you,if you don't stop saying what nobody asked you to say , your family may have to understand that something miserable can exist later.... that's how it is..... let's watch and see if bastards will not have the useless government nowhere to justify their rubbish..


We shall see.

Crystyano:
My family has had to face certain things....as for you,if you don't stop saying what nobody asked you to say , your family may have to understand that something miserable can exist later.... that's how it is..... let's watch and see if bastards will not have the useless government nowhere to justify their rubbish..


We shall see.

Victor it appears you now do drugs, too bad. Take care and get something productive to do in 2022, we are six days in already.

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Victor it appears you now do drugs, too bad. Take care and get something productive to do in 2022, we are six days in already.

You're the supplier of the drugs so I will report you to the NDLEA!!!!




So much for a productive brain!!!



You will still understand!!!

Crystyano:
You're the supplier of the drugs so I will report you to the NDLEA!!!!




So much for a productive brain!!!



You will still understand!!!

Victor, look for Jesus Christ. You just might find Him for the needed rest.

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Victor, look for Jesus Christ. You just might find Him for the needed rest.

Tell damiloladuke to stop!


It's not right!

TenQ:
Entropy show that Matter is NOT eternal
Energy of course should be eternal only that USABLE energy will be zero

Well it would only mean that usable energy is not eternal, and since non usable energy is useless in terms of doing work, does it not mean that there must necessarily be a cause to the existence of the universe?
Again, what do you say about Noether's theory, that suggest that the Law of conservation of energy is only a product of symmetry?

Crystyano:
Tell damiloladuke to stop!


It's not right!

Keep my name out of your mouth. As the other guy said, you need a lot of prayers and help.

How can you start cursing people who are helping others from the little they have.

damiloladuke:
Keep my name out of your mouth. As the other guy said, you need a lot of prayers and help.

How can you start cursing people who are helping others from the little they have.

It's because you're not in a situation whereby you're being unnecessarily condemned....... you kept saying I was not being straightforward or serious or this or that!


It's not right!


It was devastating!

Crystyano:
Tell damiloladuke to stop!


It's not right!

What can be right than giving you money when you beg up and down for it? Hope you didn't threaten him with suicide for him to send to you? How many years are you going to continue with this folly?
Only Jesus can save you, i can't dear.

damiloladuke:
Keep my name out of your mouth. As the other guy said, you need a lot of prayers and help.

How can you start cursing people who are helping others from the little they have.

Your accusations keep happening but you deny it......now, you want to accuse me of assault.....so, the DSS is a group of uneducated people that don't know the meaning of an assault.

Steep:
Well it would only mean that usable energy is not eternal, and since non usable energy is useless in terms of doing work, does it not mean that there must necessarily be a cause to the existence of the universe?
Again, what do you say about Noether's theory, that suggest that the Law of conservation of energy is only a product of symmetry?

I dont know about Noether's theory however, I certainly believe that
1. Matter and the current laws of Physics came into existence after the big bang
2. Since the big bang, entropy has been increasing
3. This increasing entropy show that the universe has an end...and if the universe has an end, it cannot be eternal. It takes a constant universe for it to have been eternal
4. The laws of physics break down before the big band and after entropy is maximum.

I dont think the laws of physics could have arisen out of nothing. There must be a prime mover who is infinitely powerful, timeless, immaterial and eternal who set the universe in motion. Christians will call such a Prime mover God.

TenQ:
I dont know about Noether's theory however, I certainly believe that
1. Matter and the current laws of Physics came into existence after the big bang
2. Since the big bang, entropy has been increasing
3. This increasing entropy show that the universe has an end...and if the universe has an end, it cannot be eternal. It takes a constant universe for it to have been eternal
4. The laws of physics break down before the big band and after entropy is maximum.

I dont think the laws of physics could have arisen out of nothing. There must be a prime mover who is infinitely powerful, timeless, immaterial and eternal who set the universe in motion. Christians will call such a Prime mover God.

yea! Correct

Yes, according to what we know for now.

Steep:
The Law of the conservation of matter and energy only holds true in a closed system.
It does not hold true in an open system.

The universe is a closed system