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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 5:05pm On Jan 06, 2022
Meliforme:


Aribo is the least technical of the three.
This is not a slander
I don't know what you guys define as technique. First touch is a technique, but there are other techniques.

I decided to see some Youtube videos of Aribo as you have suggested, to ascertain if i am really missing something. There are some positives to cull from his displays as always but he is not more spectacular than the people he is compared with.

As a central midfielder, your ability to understand tactics and make vital moves to stifle and counter the opponents is sine qua non. Only Ndidi trumps Nwakali in interpretation of tactics, even Frank Onyeka is ahead of Aribo in this area. I might argue with some great minds as to whether Ejuke is ahead of Aribo in tactical reading of the game, from my own assessment of their games, i think Ejuke is ( this is strictly a personal view ).

Can you explain why a skillful Aribo normally gets lost in games and his impact is hard to figure out. This is not just a coincidence His compatriots are better at understanding the game, and the opponents than him. Even though Gernot Rohr deserves the greater blame.

Concerning Nwakali, he is technically and tactically more astute than Aribo, and has more to contribute defensively. Being technically and tactically better makes him better at controlling a game than Aribo and therefore owns the CM spot.

I wonder how you are seeing him not understanding tactics from YouTube highlights. Nwakali has more to contribute defensively then Aribo? You have to be joking here. Nwakali that barely tackles and doesn’t track players in his box. Aribo gets lost in games like seriously? Do you even watch the guy at club level?

I’m tired of this argument abeg. The way you guys slander players without evidence is appalling. You just put up a word salad without real substance up there. Like seriously imagine saying Nwakali is better defensively than Aribo. Even Moses Simon that is a winger tracks back better than Nwakali does.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:07pm On Jan 06, 2022
fabyom:
CRonaldo started as a winger. Now he plays as a striker! Messi began as a striker; now he plays from the right or the middle!
Kante plays as a DM in Leicester, now he plays box to box/DM at Chelsea.

Iwobi's best game for Nigeria has been him playing the number 10 role: The goal that took us to the world cup against Zambia.
Scored away to Lesotho. Against sierra leone, Iwobi scored two magnificent goals, but things fell apart when Rohr moved him to the left!

Iwobi categorically said he prefers the number 10 role in a 4-3-3, but Rohr continues to use Iheanacho in that role.
When Rohr changed to 3-5-2, all the players were confused! Iwobi and Aribo don't know what to do.
A new system with just two days of training, and Nigerians expect them to play like Messi?

The mistake Rohr made was trying to accommodate Nacho, Iwobi, and Aribo.
Playing Iwobi on the left side in a 4-3-3 unbalanced the team because he doesn't stay there; he always moves to the 10 or 8 roles leaving Collins to run the whole length of the wings for 90 minutes.

Iwobi has never been atrocious as a ten, so please let the boy breath.

Aribo scored against Ukraine and Brazil because we had Chukweze and Kalu/Simon ran at them from the wings, thereby opening up the midfield. Pep even prefers wingers (dribblers) to strikers.
Dribblers open up games!

How can you play 3-5-2 without dribblers? Rohr was stupid!

Our team is well balanced; just put the right players in their best positions.

Let Ejuke/Simon and Chuz/Henry/Olayinka run at them from the wings.
Onyeka (box to box), Ndidi (DM), and Iwobi/Aribo (AM).
Sadiq (pace, calmness, skills, and height)/
Awo (Strength, height, agility and pace)/
Nacho (Calmness, passing ability, and shooting technique)/
Desser (pace, agility, and calmness).


We gat this!!




Excellent tactical analysis. You should be going for your uefa pro license.
On a serious note though I don't have anything against Iwobi. He's even one player I have strong bias for. But looking at their form at least at club levels, I'd take Aribo over Iwobi as a starter.
Rohr was just a confused man who got all the players tangled up in his chaotic tactics. So let's see how the players will requit themselves if Eguavoen gets it right tactically because you have just like many others properly set out the right tactical approach we should adopt.

But how come guys here can properly set up this team but Rohr couldn't pin down a fruitful working tactics for the team over a period of 5 years. Rohr na wa!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 5:15pm On Jan 06, 2022
Trust me, if Aribo is utilized well, he could be our highest goal scorer at this AFCON even ahead of the strikers.

Also why can’t the NFF close their eyes and pay the fine to have Dessers in the squad? Three in form strikers should stabilize our attacking department and provide assessment when the time comes for World Cup slots.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:16pm On Jan 06, 2022
yemyke001:



Now I understand why everyone missed you while you were away. Very exquisite football analysis from you there!
The guy sabi. One must give ThesuperNerd his due. Once he explains, it is as if the point he's made builds a house inside your mind.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 5:23pm On Jan 06, 2022
Guinea President, Colonel Mamady Doumbouya has warned the Syli Stars to win the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations or risk returning all the taxpayers’ money spent on them.

The Syli Nacional will be heading to their 13th Nations Cup in Cameroon with their best ever performance being in 1976 when they finished as runners-up.


Africa sef. cheesy grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:25pm On Jan 06, 2022
Looking at our woes from the positive angle, at least now, opponents may not know how to approach games with our forward line.

No Osimhen, no Dennis, no Ighalo, dem no even know who fit dey forward line. None of the potential CFs are known, so, now, they're as confused as we are.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:31pm On Jan 06, 2022
Danielnino00:


Your first paragraph sounds like you are expecting positive vibes from Eguavon grin . Cus Rohr has been restricting Aribo by playing him in a deeper role... You don't even like Eguavon because he is local, lol..

To your second paragraph, it will depend on the nature of the opposition and how I want to approach the game.. In truth, I'm not sold on the hypes on Nwakali yet because he hasn't played yet for the super eagles..he might be doing well at his club, but until he plays for the super eagles and replicate such performance before I'll be wowed..Heading to the 2018 world cup, Joel Obi was hailed as the second coming of Xavi and Iniesta combined and as the solution to our lack of creativity..those who hyped him then weren't totally wrong cus he was doing well at his club, but when he played for the super eagles, it was an eyesore..
So I'm not party to anything until I see Nwakali play in the super eagles. I've however mentioned before that a player of his skillset is needed in the team due to our lack of options there...
Joel Obi at Russia 2018 was such a big flop
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:36pm On Jan 06, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmm.... I don't know what you are trying to establish but I already told you that heatmap is him as an AMF.

I dropped two Nwakali heatmaps. Remember? One as a CM, and the last one as an AMF.

Forgotten this post I made so soon?


Read the emboldened below...

The first one I dropped showed he clearly didn't play AMF. But this one was for his very last game where he did play AMF as one of the few times he did. I hope you understand me.






Okay. My bad.

No wahala! I would have loved to see all his headmaps though but let us leave it at that for now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:37pm On Jan 06, 2022
safarigirl:
Looking at our woes from the positive angle, at least now, opponents may not know how to approach games with our forward line.

No Osimhen, no Dennis, no Ighalo, dem no even know who fit dey forward line. None of the potential CFs are known, so, now, they're as confused as we are.


correct and I hope Austin play his card very well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:39pm On Jan 06, 2022
ChrisKels:
This Ghanaian side is pretty poor all round

Don't count your chicken before they are hatched. Our friendly brother Nation Ghana should not be dismissed so easily.

By all means support your nation but it's not wisdom to denigrate another nation with emotive negative bias not objectivity.

Look at Ghana midfielder, all playing at high levels.

Ayew Andre ( no introduction needed)
Thomas Partey - Arsenal
Iddrisu Baba - Mallorca
Mubarak Wakaso (Shenzhen)
Mohammed Kudus - Ajax
Kamaldeen Sulemana - Rennes

These are Ghana's midfielders, l haven't put any one playing in leagues below the top 7 in Europe, apart from Wakaso who left La Liga, for Chinese ££$$.

Now let's look at our midfielders, would you say we have players in our midfielde that are COMPREHENSIVELY better than Ghana, l would not even suggesi it.

A friend should always underestimate your virtues and an enemy overestimate your faults“ — Mario Puzo


Onyeka - Brentford
Aribo - Rangers
Ndidi - Leicester
Ejuke - CSKA
Nwakali - SD Huesca - Segunda Division
Alex Iwobi - Everton.

If we adopt this your condescending dismissive attitude we will beaten by Sudan.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:39pm On Jan 06, 2022
drDoom3:


I wonder how you are seeing him not understanding tactics from YouTube highlights. Nwakali has more to contribute defensively then Aribo? You have to be joking here. Nwakali that barely tackles and doesn’t track players in his box. Aribo gets lost in games like seriously? Do you even watch the guy at club level?

I’m tired of this argument abeg. The way you guys slander players without evidence is appalling. You just put up a word salad without real substance up there. Like seriously imagine saying Nwakali is better defensively than Aribo. Even Moses Simon that is a winger tracks back better than Nwakali does.

The guy makes his judgments on youtube highlights, you shouldn't take him seriously
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jan 06, 2022
safarigirl:
Looking at our woes from the positive angle, at least now, opponents may not know how to approach games with our forward line.

No Osimhen, no Dennis, no Ighalo, dem no even know who fit dey forward line. None of the potential CFs are known, so, now, they're as confused as we are.
watch and see the wonders ,if our players can come together and play Like a team without been selfish to each other am sure we can win the Afcon, they should learn from the Algeria national team they don't have much star player's like us,but they play like a team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:41pm On Jan 06, 2022
maidaboi:
I am not saying Nwakali is the best thing since slice bread I just saying because you didn't make at one club is not the end of the world
Oga Mai,Kekechi Nwakili should thank God for using Austin Eguavoen for this lifeline...what a great opportunity for him to show case his talent....Player like Ekong,Maduka used super eagles to boost their careers,so nothing wrong if Nwakili can do the same.

All the talks on Nwakili here that he can do this and that were just sign of love,nothing much to say on his club career and I know the man was not comfortable with his situation.

The young man has been struggling to hit it but things are not working out,not that he is not talented but things are not just going in his way and it happen in football...Awoniyi,Sadiq and Osimehn faced similar situations but turned it around.

As it stand Nwakili is behind Iwobi,Aribo and Onyeka,no matter how we try to put them side by side.....I listened to Eguavoen on Nwakili...he said he is a promising player and he love his style of play but he will need to work harder to displace those on ground.

Nwakili,Olisa and Olayinka are gatecrashers who must put extra effort in training,same thing with Sadiq and Awoniyi but the duo will find it a bit easier due to non availability of Osimehn,Onuachu and possible Ighalo.

When a player we love is not finding it easy at club level we results to club form is different from national team form but the one we no send we results to what has it done in his club.

I wish the 28 man team very well cos I saw that zeal,commitment,love and unity when they are departing yesterday.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:46pm On Jan 06, 2022
Mujtahida:

Joel Obi at Russia 2018 was such a big flop

He didn't even get to play much at the world cup proper... It was the pre world cup friendlies that exposed him badly...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:47pm On Jan 06, 2022
safarigirl:
Looking at our woes from the positive angle, at least now, opponents may not know how to approach games with our forward line.

No Osimhen, no Dennis, no Ighalo, dem no even know who fit dey forward line. None of the potential CFs are known, so, now, they're as confused as we are.

Lol

You are right
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jan 06, 2022
Davido don buy 5th house for banana island , some guys here want to fight themself over football issue, they are even comparing there height and size
to know who is the strongest,becausee of football discussion

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:55pm On Jan 06, 2022
Englandboy:
Davido don buy 5th house for banana island , some guys here want to fight themself over football issue, they are even comparing there height and size
to know who is the strongest,becausee of football discussion

Many people here are doing so well for themselves for your info

This your davido buying house at Baba island isn’t necessary ,and besides this is not davido 5th house at banana island but 2nd

We are football fans and we love football and nothing can change that ,our financial status status have no business here .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:59pm On Jan 06, 2022
Meliforme:


Nwakali has the AFCON to show you guys what he is made of.

And what if he doesn't

Watch any match with the favourite player syndrome that we have here and when you hear the comment's he bossed the game, best player, pocketed this player or that . You will think you watched a completely different game.

My view is very simple if Nwakali was any good he would not have spent two seasons in the low level Segunda Division. If he was any good Porto would have not relegated him to the B youth team. If he was any good, he would have stood out in the Eredivisie and not have been relegated to Dutch 2nf tier and if was any good he would be at Arsenal, playing with Saka, Smith, Folarin, etc

He's done nothing at Huesca he is the second to the last lowest paid player in the club. Yet somebody days he is the star player in the club.

What's my issue, there is a pre requisite for selection to the SE. Current outstanding top quality performances in your league and club. He fails.

So what we have, is similar to someone, not taking JAMB and having failed his School certificate given admission to the university because he was a great top student in primary school.

Add to that is the shameless bigoted double standard that's been shown by quite a few here as well as quasi tribalism with so called foreign born players.

No too long it was said players in the Championship were too low for the SE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:01pm On Jan 06, 2022
Englandboy:
Davido don buy 5th house for banana island , some guys here want to fight themself over football issue, they are even comparing there height and size
to know who is the strongest,becausee of football discussion
Haha English man,pls leave Oga Idenna and Charles alone...naso he dey happen here sometimes but nothing more,as andrew always say na cruise.

Congratulations to Davido but that does not secure happiness... I have guys and some are here who are not that rich but are living a quite good life,nice family,traveling for vacation,watching EPL live,watching world cup live,some already prepared for Afcon to watch it live....flexing with ease.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jan 06, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Many people here are doing so well for themselves for your info

This your davido buying house at Baba island isn’t necessary ,and besides this is not davido 5th house at banana island but 2nd

We are football fans and we love football and nothing can change that ,our financial status status have no business here .
am not talking to u ,you should know the ones am referring to please I come clean o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:04pm On Jan 06, 2022
Englandboy:
am not talking to u ,you should know the ones am referring to please I come clean o

I know you are not talking to me my broda

I just needed to address this neutrally.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jan 06, 2022
Kog45:
Haha English man,pls leave Oga Idenna and Charles alone...naso he dey happen here sometimes but nothing more,as andrew always say na cruise.

Congratulations to Davido but that does not secure happiness... I have guys and some are here who are not that rich but are living a quite good life,nice family,traveling for vacation,watching EPL live,watching world cup live,some already prepared for Afcon to watch it live....flexing with ease.
na cruise we dai cruise here na new year we dai o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:06pm On Jan 06, 2022
drDoom3:
Trust me, if Aribo is utilized well, he could be our highest goal scorer at this AFCON even ahead of the strikers.

Also why can’t the NFF close their eyes and pay the fine to have Dessers in the squad? Three in form strikers should stabilize our attacking department and provide assessment when the time comes for World Cup slots.

Ask me. Is it not Pinnick that was fighting to bring Ighalo. Now see the mess. He should accept his error and pay the fine. The NFF has enough money to employ foreign coach and are shaking to pay fine for us to have more options in the AFCON.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:08pm On Jan 06, 2022
Englandboy:
watch and see the wonders ,if our players can come together and play Like a team without been selfish to each other am sure we can win the Afcon, they should learn from the Algeria national team they don't have much star player's like us,but they play like a team
Sir,are you saying we have more star players than Algeria?hope you see that midfield comparison Kokmne made between Nigeria and Ghana,I was like what....As you said team work does it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:08pm On Jan 06, 2022
Englandboy:
Davido don buy 5th house for banana island , some guys here want to fight themself over football issue, they are even comparing there height and size
to know who is the strongest,becausee of football discussion

Did your mother not teach you there are some kind of joy money can not buy?

Sometimes, hold on to what gives you joy. Keep chasing your success but do not forget to make out time to do things that give you joy. Money can not buy some of it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:12pm On Jan 06, 2022
humility33:


You're one of the monikers I respect here
But some times good we don't allow sentiments becloud our sense of judgement

With all this rating how many goals and assists has Nwakali this season?
With the long diagonal splitting passes he makes how many have been direct assist this season?


More so he pose all this stats in LOWLY RATED SEGUNDA B
there is nothing spectacular in all your posted bro

Like I said he is just a prospect with this afcon team not yet proven in the super eagles so all the hype around him is uncalled for
Make una leave this Nwakali thing naaa and let's wait and see how he plays at the tournament. Everyone knows he plays in the Spanish lower division, everyone knows he's not scored goals or given assist. But then again word on the street is that he's been brought in to be a plug-in to our glaring midfield deficiencies. Why not relax and let us see what the lad gives.

This is why some people say some people hate certain players because to carry on talking about this guy like this justifies that kind of talk. I am not a fan of Nwakali but I am a huge fan of beautiful football and if Nwakali can give us that, why not?
Tournament is few days from now. We cannot change his inclusion. Let us wish him well and hope he requits the confidence placed on him. This is not being sentimental or loving mediocrity. If you don't have Nepa light but you have a good torchlight won't you use it?
One question nobody has been able to answer: suggest a player who has the skill set of a midfield conductor that should have been called other than Nwakali. Everywhere quiet but the complaints never end.

This Nwakali matter don tire person ooo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:12pm On Jan 06, 2022
komekn:


And what if he doesn't

Watch any match with the favourite player syndrome that we have here and when you hear the comment's he bossed the game, best player, pocketed this player or that . You will think you watched a completely different game.

My view is very simple if Nwakali was any good he would not have spent two seasons in the low level Segunda Division. If he was any good Porto would have not relegated him to the B youth team. If he was any good, he would have stood out in the Eredivisie and not have been relegated to Dutch 2nf tier and if was any good he would be at Arsenal, playing with Saka, Smith, Folarin, etc

He's done nothing at Huesca he is the second to the last lowest paid player in the club. Yet somebody days he is the star player in the club.

What's my issue, there is a pre requisite for selection to the SE. Current outstanding top quality performances in your league and club. He fails.

So what we have, is similar to someone, not taking JAMB and having failed his School certificate given admission to the university because he was a great top student in primary school.

Add to that is the shameless bigoted double standard that's been shown by quite a few here as well as quasi tribalism with so called foreign born players.

No too long it was said players in the Championship were too low for the SE.


If Jamie Vardy was any good he would not have taking so long to play in the Premier League.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jan 06, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Did your mother not teach you there are some kind of joy money can not buy?

Sometimes, hold on to what gives you joy. Keep chasing your success but do not forget to make out time to do things that give you joy. Money can not buy some of it.
I have my reason for putting those words down it is met for some folks and u know and did I hear u mention ur mum.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:14pm On Jan 06, 2022
Mujtahida:

One question nobody has been able to answer: suggest a player who has the skill set of a midfield conductor that should have been called other than Nwakali.

This Nwakali matter don tire person ooo

Nwakali Haters United, the floor is open. Answer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Shelbyboss: 6:15pm On Jan 06, 2022
maidaboi:
I am not saying Nwakali is the best thing since slice bread I just saying because you didn't make at one club is not the end of the world
Am not against him but he doesn't deserve they hype he's getting He the only natural CM we have but they are acting like he better than Gavin Pedri or even a 3.0 Gallergar
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:16pm On Jan 06, 2022
Englandboy:
I have my reason for putting those words down it is met for some folks ,and please don't mention my mum .

Sorry, I do not mean it in a condescending way. Do not take offense my comrade. It is just a general term because of the advisory roles mothers play. Like, didn't your mother teach you how to mop, didn't your mother teach you how to be a gentleman? etc.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:18pm On Jan 06, 2022
chrisooblog:
Great to have you back Doc it's been a minute!

I won't lie I'm not a member of the Kelechi Nwakali appreciation society, he's in the squad so he has my full backing to do well. Hope he proves doubters like me wrong.

Simple. No be to dey drag the matter as if he comes good, it is not for our overall enjoyment

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