If they had remained indoors in their houses they wouldn't have met their demise. RIP to the deceased. May God comfort their families.

The church should held responsible for this.

emmykingzy:


Is it the responsibility of churches to fix Nigeria or your failed government Nd politicians.
Mind you, it was still the early church in Nigeria that brought education,modern medicine and technology.

If not , you would have been one daft illiterate in an unknown hamlet worshipping poorly man made idols and sacrificing animals or humans to them in the name of religion.

Early churches, but not the churches or kind of patriarchs we have today, also, the church is part of the people that raised the people in governments.....The government, therefore, is a direct reflection of the larger society e.g. go to different organizations across the country, banks, hospitals, airports, market.....every man is swindling is neighbor at every given opportunity. Righteousness exalts a nation, not politicians. Until we as a people genuinely approach God on the altar of truth, not the so-called god of men parading themselves as men of God. Psalm 107:34
A fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein.

Deuteronomy 28:1-14
And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: …

Prov 21 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases. All a man's ways seem right to him, but the LORD weighs the heart. To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Haughty eyes and a proud heart, the lamp of the wicked, are sin!


We as a nation have got it all wrong, no man is serving God genuinely, we serve Him for what we are likely to get from Him and this is what they have made us to believe which in all is not yielding anything but to few. We praise the rich irrespective of how the wealth is gotten.

Afamsi:
The way people die these days in Nigeria calls for a closer relationship with God, so that peradventure one becomes a victim s/he can rest in peace

The internet only made you think these things started today bro. People have been dying in scores, by different means, not just in Nigeria but all around the world, not just today, but thousands of years before we were born . Going through history, almost EVERY GENERATION has claimed it's (younger) population are the worst to have ever existed, yet the world has not shattered to bits owing to the notoriety of it's inhabitants from then till date. That's been the ways of the world. It's only the internet announcing it louder now bro. Think am.

hopefulLandlord:


Yeah, but we all know if this were a place where freethinkers meet and discuss then this happens, most religious people wouldn't blame the "Builders and Developers" they'd say it's their imaginary friend that showed his power when he got angry with them

This believer would still say what he said...people needlessly died because someone decided to sin

Straw man much? Some truth in it, but still a straw man.

. They'd talk about how if they believed in some Jew killed by three nails in a small Israeli village aeons ago or a murderous Arab pedophile this wouldn't have happened or they'd have been saved but here we are seeing their compartmentalisation

Yas, you don't have to believe all that too.

Lexusgs430:



Let's curtail their excesses, first ...... Hopefully, that pause would reset the brains of the brainwashed......

Remove religion and nothing will change.

I'm not defending religion, I'm pointing out that banning philosophies does not necessarily make the world a better place.

backbencher:
Some would blame God now for the deaths

But the thing is, God has said many times that we must obey rules and regulations, and the fact is , the builders and developers did not obey rules and regulations on building a safe building and as a result, this is what has happened.

If God came and saved our backs everytime a badly built building collapsed, we won't grasp the importance of building houses and other types of buildings properly because God will save our asses when the buildings collapse

So, blame the builders and developers and everyone directly involved in the construction. They so did not do well. See the results of their sin.

if we are to count on developers to protect church members, then what is the difference between believers and unbelievers?

zedman1:
The internet only made you think these things started today bro. People have been dying in scores, by different means, not just in Nigeria but all around the world, not just today, but thousands of years before we were born . Going through history, almost EVERY GENERATION has claimed it's (younger) population are the worst to have ever existed, yet the world has not shattered to bits owing to the notoriety of it's inhabitants from then till date. That's been the ways of the world. It's only the internet announcing it louder now bro. Think am.

Lol

Every generation seems to think they live in the worst times and in the end time.

Every generation has the end time signs

hopefulLandlord:


Argue it bro. I'd like to hear your argument(s)

Work about to start...but in brief, a lot of the modern science and tech that the Chinese use was developed in christian nations, under the auspices of Christians.

A good book on the matter is For the Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-Hunts, and the End of Slavery by Rodney Stark. (available here in epub)

Premiumwriter:
if we are to count on developers to protect church members, then what is the difference between believers and unbelievers?

We count on developers to 'protect us' by obeying God's law by

1.Doing a good job on the building...as emphasized in scripture (do your work as if you are doing it for God, colossians 3 vs 23 Of course if you are doing something for God's glory you do your best.)

2.Doing a good job so that others are safe in the process...therefore thinking of others first (and taking care of our 'neighbor') as seen in the Good Samaritan...above ourselves.

3.By upholding the commandment not to kill...by doing a good job too.

Afamsi:
The way people die these days in Nigeria calls for a closer relationship with God, so that peradventure one becomes a victim s/he can rest in peace

The same god that couldn't save the people in that building?

There is no benefit of believing in it. It is constantly useless

Tokskob2008:
Even with all the tithes and offering money the church still couldn't construct a solid building

It's not the Church that build it, It's a rented apartments. That building is a plaza, which the Church rent some part for worship. There are other activities going on in the building apart from Church.

zedman1:
The internet only made you think these things started today bro. People have been dying in scores, by different means, not just in Nigeria but all around the world, not just today, but thousands of years before we were born . Going through history, almost EVERY GENERATION has claimed it's (younger) population are the worst to have ever existed, yet the world has not shattered to bits owing to the notoriety of it's inhabitants from then till date. That's been the ways of the world. It's only the internet announcing it louder now bro. Think am.

You ve a poinit but in Nigeria it has never being this bad... So many agents of death ranging from Boko haram to Bandit, to Herdsmen to kidnappers to yahoo boys etc that weren't in existence before

Bola146:
Be our protector oh Lord

The irony of asking protection..

From a god who couldn't protect his children in his house..

Religion is a SCAM..

backbencher:


We count on developers to 'protect us' by obeying God's law by

1.Doing a good job on the building...as emphasized in scripture (do your work as if you are doing it for God, colossians 3 vs 23 Of course if you are doing something for God's glory you do your best.)

2.Doing a good job so that others are safe in the process...therefore thinking of others first (and taking care of our 'neighbor') as seen in the Good Samaritan...above ourselves.

3.By upholding the commandment not to kill...by doing a good job too.

lolz.

Then what is the point of God in all these if the fate of his children lies in the hands of developers?

And as a side note: a developer doesn't need to obey any religious rules to construct a strong church, what he needs to obey is the laws of simple engineering.

hahn:


The same god that couldn't save the people in that building?

There is no benefit of believing in it. It is constantly useless

God is well able to deliver and to save but bad things happen for so many reasons and God can decide to allow

This also remind me of what happenes in synagogue church in ikotun when many south Africans die in Nigeria. Only God knows what they use for the construction.

May the soul of the dead R.I.P amen

May God give the family the fortitude to bear the lost. But it's a shame on Nigerian pastors most especially the G. O of that church for not seeing this coming if true is their prophesies.

African keeps shouting Jesus instead of Amadioha. Why pastors no see the vision

backbencher:


The US beats both nations with far more GDP and has 65% Christians

Also, most tech and science was developed in...you guessed it...christian nations..which is what the chinese and indians use

If you look at the data very well you will realize that the cut off point is 70%. Most countries whose religious population is above 70% is living in abject poverty. ( check the data again).

Make no mistake, America's version of Christianity is different from yours . Let me mention but a few. Churches are categorized as NGO as such they only keep 10% of every contributions and and give the rest to charity.

NGO's have board of trustees so not only one man makes decisions as regards public funds.

Religious houses have building codes they build to that standard eg. sound proove buildings :So you dont disturb your neighbors while worshipping your God.

Religious leaders go to jail when they break the laws governing NGO's

Even though religious houses are not expected to pay taxes since they are categorized as NGO's, their accounts are audited at the discretion of Ucle Sam. (IRS)

Therefore, they dont really practice christianity like you do, and above all they don't worship at the expense of economic and technological advancement.

Unfortunately, the religion they brought you is the one they left behind years ago, religion of ( slave and slave masters)and Nigeria as a society have refused to evolve in all ramifications of life. Religion included.

Take a look at the chat below. Interesting right?

The whole of Africa is within 90-100 % and that's how much poverty is in the land. The only bright area is southern Africa, no wonder they are more developed than the rest of us.

emmykingzy:


Is it the responsibility of churches to fix Nigeria or your failed government Nd politicians.
Mind you, it was still the early church in Nigeria that brought education,modern medicine and technology.

If not , you would have been one daft illiterate in an unknown hamlet worshipping poorly man made idols and sacrificing animals or humans to them in the name of religion.

If you believe the the government has the responsibility to do more. Then the government deserves our 10% not the church

Dawinlove, Dtruthspeaker

Come and see how your god is indifferent to his worshippers.

May the dead rest in peace. Valar Morghulis.

Premiumwriter:
lolz.

Then what is the point of God in all these if the fate of his children lies in the hands of developers?

And as a side note: a developer doesn't need to obey any religious rules to construct a strong church, what he needs to obey is the laws of simple engineering.

Well, God expects people to do the right thing at all times.

It's that simple.

Including obeying the laws of engineering, which the developer didn't do.

(I saw the strawman you used there. The bible doesn't have the kind of rules you are looking for, but it does emphasize obeying established rules and regulations, and doing things as if you are doing it for God...which implies good workmanship)

backbencher:


Remove religion and nothing will change.

I'm not defending religion, I'm pointing out that banning philosophies does not necessarily make the world a better place.

Religion, really messed Nigeria up ...... (Both religions)........

Knowledge of Safety, Emergency Response and evacuation procedure is zero in this country.

What is the business of those people videoing an incident scene like this.

Government needs to do a lot more in the area of emergency response and evacuation.

This is actually preventable....naija which way

hosemujica:


If you look at the data very well you will realize that the cut off point is 70%. Most countries whose religious population is above 70% is living in abject poverty. ( check the data again).

Most countries where the industrial revolution took place were mostly christian and above 70% christian at the time

Make no mistake, America's version of Christianity is different from yours . Let me mention but a few. Churches are categorized as NGO as such they only keep 10% of every contributions and and give the rest to charity.

NGO's have board of trustees so not only one man makes decisions as regards public funds.

Religious houses have building codes they build to that standard eg. sound proove buildings :So you dont disturb your neighbors while worshipping your God.

Religious leaders go to jail when they break the laws governing NGO's

Even though religious houses are not expected to pay taxes since they are categorized as NGO's, their accounts are audited at the discretion of Ucle Sam. (IRS)

Therefore, they dont really practice christianity like you do, and above all they don't worship at the expense of economic and technological advancement.

Good, which is why people in this country have to use the tool God has given us called 'accountability'...which we don't use, hence a lot of injustice happens.

When people don't do as God intended, problems arise.

Unfortunately, the religion they brought you is the one they left behind years ago, religion of ( slave and slave masters)and Nigeria as a society have refused to evolve in all ramifications of life. Religion included.

Take a look at the chat below. Interesting right?

The whole of Africa is within 90-100 % and that's how much poverty is in the land. The only bright area is southern Africa, no wonder they are more developed than the rest of us.

Africa is poor because every African, religious, irreligious, etc believes that we can make a living from selling raw materials, which we have in abundance...when really we can make more money using the raw materials to develop industrial consumer goods and services.(I see the attitude here on this site, irrespective of religion)

Countries with limited resources learn quickly that they have to use their limited resources to make stuff for export...which is why China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Germany, and the UK are prosperous.

South Africa learned that lesson too thanks to apartheid(sanctions forced them to develop their science and tech..same as the very religious country of Iran)...though they are forgetting it because of the large money coming in from materials like platinum and diamonds.

Look at those time supporting columns.
Is that not wet cement and block I am seeing?

petra1:
is it salvation ministry that collapse or the building that houses the church

Lol
What is d difference

Lexusgs430:



Religion, really messed Nigeria up ...... (Both religions)........

TO some extent it

1.Brought literacy and modern education

2.Helped preserve languages (Hausa was written down in Arabic script by Islamic scholars, while a host of other languages were written down first by Christian missionaries...people must read the bible, and not eveyrone is into English)

3.Brought about cooperation among tribes, or helped the process

We are underdeveloped because we don't want to get rid of the idea that selling raw materials and sharing the money is a good thing. It is a bad thing.

When we start using our raw materials to develop industrial goods for export, then we will be a strong and developed nation.

Aonkuuse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoOscr1J5i0



Source: https://salemgists.com/just-in-10-persons-perish-as-church-building-collapses-in-delta-photos-video/

Something fishy is going on. Thank God it was not Davido, this happened to.

cidieschat:
If you believe the the government has the responsibility to do more. Then the government deserves our 10% not the church

The Government already collect various taxes for the development of the country and upliftment of the citizens which is mandatory by the end way. But they have failed to do so. Politicians keep stealing national funds, yet you blame the church for lack of development
The church also collect funds in the form of offerings and tithes for the development and advancement of the Gods Kingdom, gospel and welfare of members. I also know that 70% of hospitals,roads and educational institutions in Nigeria were built by the church.
Traditional worshipers also collect funds weekly and monthly from their members. Some sacrifice foodstuffs, goats, cows and chicken for their worship which mandatory.
Muslims also collect theirs annually offerings, I think 2.5% and others.
So, why is it that it's only the church everyone is criticizing.
Oga, go and hold your government and politicians accountable.

That's a rented building am seeing and not their permanent structure, bladders carrying carrying news like the church were the only one renting the properties ,get your fact right this bloggers won't make heaven