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Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 7:11am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
To ridicule the holy scriptures ,He claims that Galatians 6:10 and John 13:35 is "LOVE BOMBING"
JWs, my brothers taught by Jesus Christ, John and Paul, continue the LOVE without "BOMBING" while the Love of faithless people who are neither here nor there, continue to "wax cold" , according to Jesus Christ, @Matthew 24:12.

Bros, do you notice the contrast ?
Matthew 24:12( is the world, no love) & Galatians 6:10/John 13:35(Jehovah's servants, love dey stew everywhere) .
Say what you want.

Research as shown that LOVE BOMBING is a very powerful tool used by religious organizations - especially cults.

You and MaxIDhouse always talk about LOVE.

But you tend to forget that the LOVE you claim to have or show is CONDITIONAL.

But this is a discussion for another day.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:36am On Jan 15, 2022
PaNnamdi:
Wow keep up the good work cheesy
I really missed you guys though cool
It was a tough journey, i was a Muslim and i have no family members among the JWs the only person i heard about was an uncle who died a JW.
But today i have millions of brothers and sisters throughout the world just as Jesus promised me! Matthew 19:27-29

That's why i am telling all these misinformed Churchgoers that the girl wasn't a true JW.
Throughout the world everyone know that when it comes to LOVE among worshipers the first is Jehovah's Witnesses organization. Catholic báwo! smiley
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m):
oteneaaron:
Say what you want.
Research as shown that LOVE BOMBING is a very powerful tool used by religious organizations - especially cults.
You and MaxIDhouse always talk about LOVE.
But you tend to forget that the LOVE you claim to have or show is CONDITIONAL.
But this is a discussion for another day!
CONDITIONAL LOVE just like Jesus' love for those that share the same line of thought with him! Matthew 12:46-50
He said:

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

So it's the LOVE BOMBING that stands as the sign of true believers among Jesus' followers.

He gave us a general law! Mark 12:28-31
The love for neighbours is to be as we love ourselves but when it comes to his disciples we must love fellow JWs exactly the way Jesus loves us.
Perhaps you may be confused about these two instructions, if i love someone as i do myself it simply means i can deny such a person certain things just as i often deny myself somethings due to self discipline but when it comes to my fellow JW i must be prepared to die for him or her just as Jesus did for me! John 15:13-14

So get it straight, Jesus loves everyone just as he loves himself but when it comes to those who share the same line of thought with him Jesus loves them more than his own soul! smiley
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16am On Jan 15, 2022
I wish more of you guys should come in here and learn about Jesus' love for people that it's not equal as you may think. His love for humans in general is the same but in the case of those that share the same believe with him Jesus' love is CONDITIONAL!

These things I have spoken to you, so that my joy may be in you and your joy may be made full. This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you. No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends. You are my friends if you do what I am commanding you. I no longer call you slaves, because a slave does not know what his master does. But I have called you friends, because I have made known to you all the things I have heard from my Father" John 15:11-15

So don't get confused Jesus has greater love for those that shared his beliefs!

Come in and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Ẹ wá k'ẹ́kọ̀ọ́! smiley
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Janosky: 9:30am On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
Say what you want.

Research as shown that LOVE BOMBING is a very powerful tool used by religious organizations - especially cults.

You and MaxIDhouse always talk about LOVE.

But you tend to forget that the LOVE you claim to have or show is CONDITIONAL.

But this is a discussion for another day.
Galatians 6:10.
IYKYK. grin
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Janosky: 9:46am On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
I personally don't give a damn about any other religion that has cases of sexual child abuse in court.

After all, I have realized say na the same motor carry all of una - JW and every other religion of Christendom.
You claimed "na the same motor carry all", therefore it's your bigotry & hypocrisy makes you to "give a damn" and focus only on alleged case of abuse by JWs.
Just continue DECEIVING yourself grin
oteneaaron:
But I am focused on the JW because, ever since I was young, I have always strongly believed that the organization was the one and only true religion.

And when a religion claims to be the only truth, then falsehood should never be found in it's midst.

This is simple logic.
Matthew 26:31-35, when the disciples FALSEHOOD was exposed,are they still servants of JEHOVAH God?
1 Samuel 3:20 &1 Samuel 16:6, when Prophet Samuel's FALSEHOOD was exposed,is he still JEHOVAH's prophet?

oteneaaron:
So imagine my horror when I saw that even the JW organization is also been investigated for sexual child abuse with over 1000 cases.

And mind you, this is just Australia!

This indirectly means the same thing is happening in other countries too.

So what are we saying?
Luke 24:19-25,Like Samuel,, king David, like the disciples, like JWs today, do you get it?
Monkey no fine,him Mama & Papa love am.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:08am On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
I personally don't give a damn about any other religion that has cases of sexual child abuse in court.
After all, I have realized say na the same motor carry all of una - JW and every other religion of Christendom.
But I am focused on the JW because, ever since I was young, I have always strongly believed that the organization was the one and only true religion.
This is what being an agent of the intelligence has helped me to solve!
When God said "Israelites are my people" {Exodus 5:1} He never meant that they're one group of perfect humans rather what God meant is that this is the nation He chose to reveal Himself. So you will find all the traits of imperfect humans in their midst. That's why you can't point to a single Israelites that never committed a blunder except Jesus because he is a perfect man. smiley

oteneaaron:
when a religion claims to be the only truth, then falsehood should never be found in it's midst.This is simple logic.
Your logic is false because the Israelites were God's only channel yet imperfection affected them. The first century Jewish disciples of Christ were the only channel God used in the first century yet there were imperfect humans in their midst.
So you goofed big time my young man!
oteneaaron:
So imagine my horror when I saw that even the JW organization is also been investigated for sexual child abuse with over 1000 cases.
And mind you, this is just Australia!
This indirectly means the same thing is happening in other countries too.
So what are we saying?
What we are saying is that God has chosen this organization and that doesn't mean you won't find sinners in their midst but there are signs Jesus promised that will serve as identifying mark of his true followers in our time. Jesus never said you won't find sinners in their midst because he himself came to call sinners not perfect people! Matthew 9:13

So stop confusing yourself, ask for the IDENTIFYING MARK of pure worship as stated by Jesus Christ himself! smiley
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 10:33am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
You claimed "na the same motor carry all", therefore it's your bigotry & hypocrisy makes you to "give a damn" and focus only on alleged case of abuse by JWs.
Just continue DECEIVING yourself grin

Matthew 26:31-35, when the disciples FALSEHOOD was exposed,are they still servants of JEHOVAH God?
1 Samuel 3:20 &1 Samuel 16:6, when Prophet Samuel's FALSEHOOD was exposed,is he still JEHOVAH's prophet?



Luke 24:19-25,Like Samuel,, king David, like the disciples, like JWs today, do you get it?
Monkey no fine,him Mama & Papa love am.
Very well.

No problem.

Good to know that I struck a chord.

Just so we're clear, when you talk about Falsehood, are you admitting to the fact that GB member Geoffrey Jackson LIED under oath?
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by achorladey: 10:38am On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
I personally don't give a damn about any other religion that has cases of sexual child abuse in court.

After all, I have realized say na the same motor carry all of una - JW and every other religion of Christendom.

But I am focused on the JW because, ever since I was young, I have always strongly believed that the organization was the one and only true religion.

And when a religion claims to be the only truth, then falsehood should never be found in it's midst.

This is simple logic.

So imagine my horror when I saw that even the JW organization is also been investigated for sexual child abuse with over 1000 cases.

And mind you, this is just Australia!

This indirectly means the same thing is happening in other countries too.

So what are we saying?
They want free reign to talk, tag, label other Christian denominations on their activities and actions but the moment you switch to their side, you see them running from pillar to post trying to tell you that you have no moral right to do so.

These are your offence according to them for stating the following


1.
I personally don't give a damn about any other religion that has cases of sexual child abuse in court
2.
After all, I have realized say na the same motor carry all of una
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 10:38am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is what being an agent of the intelligence has helped me to solve!
When God said "Israelites are my people" {Exodus 5:1} He never meant that they're one group of perfect humans rather what God meant is that this is the nation He chose to reveal Himself. So you will find all the traits of imperfect humans in their midst. That's why you can't point to a single Israelites that never committed a blunder except Jesus because he is a perfect man. smiley


Your logic is false because the Israelites were God's only channel yet imperfection affected them. The first century Jewish disciples of Christ were the only channel God used in the first century yet there were imperfect humans in their midst.
So you goofed big time my young man!

What we are saying is that God has chosen this organization and that doesn't mean you won't find sinners in their midst but there are signs Jesus promised that will serve as identifying mark of his true followers in our time. Jesus never said you won't find sinners in their midst because he himself came to call sinners not perfect people! Matthew 9:13

So stop confusing yourself, ask for the IDENTIFYING MARK of pure worship as stated by Jesus Christ himself! smiley
OK big time intelligence officer, I hear you loud and clear.

I am just happy to know that I struck a chord.

Just like I asked Mr Janosky, by this your statement are you admitting that a member of your beloved GB - Geoffrey Jackson LIED under oath?
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by achorladey: 10:43am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
You claimed "na the same motor carry all", therefore it's your bigotry & hypocrisy makes you to "give a damn" and focus only on alleged case of abuse by JWs.
Just continue DECEIVING yourself grin

Matthew 26:31-35, when the disciples FALSEHOOD was exposed,are they still servants of JEHOVAH God?
1 Samuel 3:20 &1 Samuel 16:6, when Prophet Samuel's FALSEHOOD was exposed,is he still JEHOVAH's prophet?



Luke 24:19-25,Like Samuel,, king David, like the disciples, like JWs today, do you get it?
Monkey no fine,him Mama & Papa love am.
You still dey peddle this scriptures wey no support your DOCTRINES and IDEOLOGY grin grin grin

The face of the religious organization must look good even if it involves defacing the name of those prophets grin grin


We know people like you are not BIGOT and HYPOCRITE grin grin
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by achorladey: 10:48am On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
Say what you want.

Research as shown that LOVE BOMBING is a very powerful tool used by religious organizations - especially cults.

You and MaxIDhouse always talk about LOVE.

But you tend to forget that the LOVE you claim to have or show is CONDITIONAL.

But this is a discussion for another day.
You mean that love wey a family cannot give their daughter hands in marriage to the son of another family.

Or the kind love wey members dey commit suicide and wunjure one a other. grin
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:49am On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
OK big time intelligence officer, I hear you loud and clear.
I am just happy to know that I struck a chord.
Just like I asked Mr Janosky, by this your statement are you admitting that a member of your beloved GB - Geoffrey Jackson LIED under oath?
You're very funny!
Just humble yourself and learn.
A servant of Jehovah is not bound under any oath unless when we are in the the midst of God's people.
For instance, did you think Jackson swear in the name of JEHOVAH?
Ògbéni, he played along since those people don't know the importance of the name of our God.
Jesus refused to give a straightforward reply to the Pharisees and Sadducees when they were questioning him. He refused to say a word but when the Chief Priest bound Jesus in the name of our God Jesus must not remain silent any more! Matthew 26:59-64

You people are just so gullible that you're not watching closely this Americans who claims to be Jesus' brothers. For your information in all their deeds they have proved to be cautious as serpents and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 smiley
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by achorladey: 11:16am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It was a tough journey, i was a Muslim and i have no family members among the JWs the only person i heard about was an uncle who died a JW.
But today i have millions of brothers and sisters throughout the world just as Jesus promised me! Matthew 19:27-29

That's why i am telling all these misinformed Churchgoers that the girl wasn't a true JW.
Throughout the world everyone know that when it comes to LOVE among worshipers the first is Jehovah's Witnesses organization. Catholic báwo! smiley
It is bound to happen grin grin grin

That's why i am telling all these misinformed Churchgoers that the girl wasn't a true JW.
We know the bold will come to the surface last last. Who is really a TRUE JW? cheesy cheesy
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by achorladey: 11:20am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You're very funny!
Just humble yourself and learn.
A servant of Jehovah is not bound under any oath unless when we are in the the midst of God's people.
For instance, did you think Jackson swear in the name of JEHOVAH?
Ògbéni, he played along since those people don't know the importance of the name of our God.
Jesus refused to give a straightforward reply to the Pharisees and Sadducees when they were questioning him. He refused to say a word but when the Chief Priest bound Jesus in the name of our God Jesus must not remain silent any more! Matthew 26:59-64

You people are just so gullible that you're not watching closely this Americans who claims to be Jesus' brothers. For your information in all their deeds they have proved to be cautious as serpents and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 smiley
When your Jehovah ask you to respect Government authority it means play along with them grin grin You are toying with people you should respect. When your activities gets banned the same government, you cry blue murder. No be una dey toy with them in the first place?

A servant of Jehovah is not bound under any oath unless when we are in the the midst of God's people.
But your same Jesus says what? Oga Military intelligence officer? grin grin So una dey swear oath,no wonder dem dey call una CULTS grin grin

Oya come back and change mouth.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by achorladey: 11:29am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is what being an agent of the intelligence has helped me to solve!
When God said "Israelites are my people" {Exodus 5:1} He never meant that they're one group of perfect humans rather what God meant is that this is the nation He chose to reveal Himself. So you will find all the traits of imperfect humans in their midst. That's why you can't point to a single Israelites that never committed a blunder except Jesus because he is a perfect man. smiley


Your logic is false because the Israelites were God's only channel yet imperfection affected them. The first century Jewish disciples of Christ were the only channel God used in the first century yet there were imperfect humans in their midst.
So you goofed big time my young man!

What we are saying is that God has chosen this organization and that doesn't mean you won't find sinners in their midst but there are signs Jesus promised that will serve as identifying mark of his true followers in our time. Jesus never said you won't find sinners in their midst because he himself came to call sinners not perfect people! Matthew 9:13

So stop confusing yourself, ask for the IDENTIFYING MARK of pure worship as stated by Jesus Christ himself! smiley
You know in your Heart you cannot support the below with a scripture.........

What we are saying is that God has chosen this organization
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 11:39am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You're very funny!
Just humble yourself and learn.
A servant of Jehovah is not bound under any oath unless when we are in the the midst of God's people.
For instance, did you think Jackson swear in the name of JEHOVAH?
Ògbéni, he played along since those people don't know the importance of the name of our God.
Jesus refused to give a straightforward reply to the Pharisees and Sadducees when they were questioning him. He refused to say a word but when the Chief Priest bound Jesus in the name of our God Jesus must not remain silent any more! Matthew 26:59-64

You people are just so gullible that you're not watching closely this Americans who claims to be Jesus' brothers. For your information in all their deeds they have proved to be cautious as serpents and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 smiley
WOW!

He played along?

To the Court of Law?

Lawyers in the house, is lying under oath not a criminal offense?

Kindly correct me if I am wrong.

MaxInDHouse, I thought the same GB has taught that you must obey instituted authority?

I get you sha, the organization calls it Theocratic Warfare - where you LIE to conceal the TRUTH.

But that is a discussion for another day.

Just to help others in their research, attached below is the full video of Geoffrey Jackson's statement at the Australian Royal Commission.

Kindly note where HE SWORE BY HIS BIBLE to say nothing but the TRUTH.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erWV8YnTFto

Now this is to ALL religious organizations out there, including Jehovah’s Witnesses:

For centuries, you have used man-made dogma and doctrines to dampened the spirit of men and women globally.

For so long, you have lied to them and refused to teach them the TRUTH about their OWN DIVINITY.

Your day of reckoning is fast approaching.

One day, the eyes of all the people you are deceiving will be opened.

It might not be tomorrow or next year, but it will most definitely come.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:49am On Jan 15, 2022
achorladey:
You know in your Heart you cannot support the below with a scripture.........
What we are saying is that God has chosen this organization
Do you think the first century disciples of Jesus had any scripture to point out that God chose Jesus as the Christ?
Well the only evidence they had was how Jesus keep fulfilling the role of the Christ.
So if you know any other group that's fulfilling what Jesus said about God's organization in the endtime please let me know! smiley
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by AJohnnasa(m): 11:53am On Jan 15, 2022
ngwababe:
Oluku.
LOL. Enyi oluku.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:03pm On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
WOW!
He played along?
To the Court of Law?
Lawyers in the house, is lying under oath not a criminal offense?
Kindly correct me if I am wrong.
MaxInDHouse, I thought the same GB has taught that you must obey instituted authority?
I get you sha, the organization calls it Theocratic Warfare - where you LIE to conceal the TRUTH.
But that is a discussion for another day.
Keep deceiving yourself! cheesy
Brother Jackson only proved to be as cautious as Jesus instructed when asked a dicey question, HE NEVER LIED! wink

oteneaaron:
Just to help others in their research, attached below is the full video of Geoffrey Jackson's statement at the Australian Royal Commission.
Kindly note where HE SWORE BY HIS BIBLE to say nothing but the TRUTH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erWV8YnTFto
Now this is to ALL religious organizations out there, including Jehovah’s Witnesses:
For centuries, you have used man-made dogma and doctrines to dampened the spirit of men and women globally.
For so long, you have lied to them and refused to teach them the TRUTH about their OWN DIVINITY.
Your day of reckoning is fast approaching.
One day, the eyes of all the people you are deceiving will be opened.
It might not be tomorrow or next year, but it will most definitely come.
From Satan's agent who said:

oteneaaron:
GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)



WHO CREATED GOD??

then GOD must have been created too!!!

WHY?

Now who created GOD??

Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we were perplexed as to how the universe was sparse and awe-inspiring, we had to give credit to -someone- so we invented GOD

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD
Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!
Come on my friend, if you want to struggle in words with anyone claiming believer in Christ know that your weapons against faith in Jesus Christ won't work whenever you come face to face with a servant of Jehovah. Ephesians 6:12
We will always render you silent because that's our HERITAGE! Isaiah 54:17

So say something else because truthfully you have no faith in the existence of God at all! wink
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 12:05pm On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Keep deceiving yourself! cheesy
Brother Jackson only proved to be as cautious as Jesus instructed when asked a dicey question, HE NEVER LIED! wink



From Satan's agent who said:



Come on my friend, if you want to struggle in words with anyone claiming believer in Christ know that your weapons against faith in Jesus Christ won't work whenever you come face to face with a servant of Jehovah. Ephesians 6:12
We will always render you silent because that's our HERITAGE! Isaiah 54:17

So say something else because truthfully you have no faith in the existence of God at all! wink
Hahahaha

So now I am Satan's agent abi.

Whatever rocks your boat.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Deadlytruth(m):
Kobojunkie:
Even Judas trained , and was sent out at some point to preach and heal in the name of Jesus, this before his final betrayal. His words were at one time also "inspired" by Jesus Christ, but he is the ultimate example for why never to trust the words of the servant over that of the Master. undecided

My point is, Paul, like every other follower of Jesus Christ out there is a servant and will never take the place of the master, whose teachings and commandments we are all to live by and teach others. Jesus Christ never instructed anyone to trust in and obey His servants/followers. He instead called us all to Trust in and obey Him and Him alone. undecided
Paul himself said he never underwent any training about the New Way under anyone but as an impartation from the Holy Spirit (Galatians 1:12), and that is very true considering the facts that:

1. Paul himself didn't author the book of Acts in which Paul's tutelage-lacking conversion and spiritual growth was stated.

2. After arresting him on his way to Damascus, Jesus immediately told him that he would be a witness onto him before the gentile nations and didn't ask him to go and learn under anyone first.

2. Jesus directed him to the House of Ananias and told him specifically that it is only for the purpose of restoration of his sight and nothing else.

3. The time between Paul's conversion and when he hit the streets witnessing was a question of few days which we all know is too short a time for anyone totally new to a movement could acquire such immense level of knowledge about that movement except there is a supernatural source for his inspiration.


Now, your arguement that a servant can't become better than his master is of limited veracity in physical things let alone in spiritual matters.
First of all, Jesus never regarded his followers as his servants but as fellow brothers in his father's vineyard. So the question of a servant not being able to do greater than his master doesn't even arise here in the first instance. Secondly, Jesus himself said it clearly that those who believe in him (not some imaginary and unscriptural servants) would do greater things than himself. John 14: 12 - 14

Your claim that Paul's messages were inspired by the Devil is too laughable. Here is what Jesus himself said of Paul in Acts 9:15;

But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for I have chosen him as a vessel to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

So a person whom Jesus declared that he himself specifically chose as his own vessel with the special task of spreading his gospel would later be inspired by the Devil to speak against Christ and God would allow him so much liberty to do so to the extent that the letters he wrote from prisons while suffering as Christ had earlier on revealed, would find their way into the final compilation of Christ's own book of the New Testament, and God's own powers of signs and wonders would keep following that same man (now being inspired by the devil) to the extent that prisons were shattered by the Holy Spirit for his freedom in Philipi after casting away the spirit of the same devil from a possessed girl, and so many other manifestations of Gods power? Do the spirits of God and that of the devil dwell in the same body simultaneously?
Just in pursuit of your unscriptural belief you chose to present the works of the spirit of God as an inspiration from the Devil. You are not different from those who accused Jesus of being inspired by the evil spirit of Belzebub just because Jesus' messages didn't harmonize with their sentiments and personal and unscriptural opinions of what righteousness should entail.

I guess Paul was also inspired by the devil in his upbraiding of Peter over the latter's attempt to discriminate between Jews and gentiles in Rome or so?
Then the devil was as well the one speaking through Paul while he wrote his two letters to the church in Corinth condemning them for incest, disorderliness in the church during the Eucharist, etc?
The devil also inspired Paul to list out the fruits of the spirit which you yourself have come to believe in? And in all of that the Holy Spirit never departed from him.
Your last lines are amusing.
Jesus never said that his servants' words should not be trusted. There is no such admonition credited to Jesus anywhere in the bible. In fact Jesus even said his genuine followers would speak on his behalf before kings and powers. He promised to send them the Holy Spirit who would inspire them and teach them what to say on his behalf. Even the Books of Matthew, Mark Luke and John which obviously serve as your only trusted souce of Jesus: own words were written not by Jesus himself but by his followers who could have doctored them with inspirations from the devil in the process of writing at least going by your arguement that his servants' are not perfect hence prone to error or the devil's inspiration. So why then do you so believe in the contents of the four gospels alone despite the accounts in them were equally written by Christ's prone-to-devil-inspiration servants who were just as much servants as Paul who wrote the Epistles you denounce as devil inspired?
I will only advise you to read the Bible all over again with an open and independent logical mind of your own.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
Hahahaha
So now I am Satan's agent abi.
Whatever rocks your boat.
Prove that you're a worshiper of God through your activities on this forum as you preach and teach to win souls for your God!
I have provided an evidence where you yourself said you and your cohorts CREATED God!
What else remains if you're not an agent of the one who told Eve:

"For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad"
Genesis 3:5
When Satan said Eve and Adam don't need God in their world, what do you think he was actually telling Eve?
"Forget about God, it's just a figment of your imagination, you can do better without this imaginary friend!"
So try to convince your audience that the same God you said you created in your imagination is coming to do something! cheesy
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Kobojunkie: 12:41pm On Jan 15, 2022
Deadlytruth:
Paul himself said he never underwent any training about the New Way under anyone but as an impartation from the Holy Spirit (Galatians 1:12), and that is very true considering the facts that:
I believe you misconstrue the message of what Paul revealed to you there by his statement in Galatians 1 vs 11 - 12, and this probably because you don't understand the details of the New Covenant. undecided

In Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34, God revealed that in His New Agreement with Israel, that He alone would be Teacher to those who belong to Him - No longer would a man have to look to his neighbor to learn about God. Jesus Christ echoed the same instruction in His Gospel when He decreed that none of His followers set themselves up as Teachers over any of His own - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 - submitting that those who belong to Him are taught only by the Father - John 6 vs 45 -46 undecided

So, what Paul said is correct as far as all those who belong to Jesus Christ. They are not taught by men but by God Himself. What this means is, as Jesus Christ said, anyone who trained under any man/pastor/mog is not of God but of his master, the one who he trained under and so has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. undecided

So rather than look to Paul for your training, I suggest you look beyond Paul and begin to seek training directly from Jesus Christ, the one who is meant to be your only Teacher and Master from the moment you enter into His Kingdom. undecided

That said, as I already mentioned, Judas was also taught by Jesus Christ, but we all know that Judas rejected the teachings in the end. undecided
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 12:54pm On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Prove that you're a worshiper of God through your activities on this forum as you preach and teach to win souls for your God!
I have provided an evidence where you yourself said you and your cohorts CREATED God!
What else remains if you're not an agent of the one who told Eve:

"For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad"
Genesis 3:5
When Satan said Eve and Adam don't need God in their world, what do you think he was actually telling Eve?
"Forget about God, it's just a figment of your imagination, you can do better without this imaginary friend!"
So try to convince your audience that the same God you said you created in your imagination is coming to do something! cheesy
Mr Millitary Intelligence Officer.

Like I told you many times before, even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I mean.

There many GOD'S that you,and other members of other different religions pay an allegiance to.

The God that you worship, gets angry, gets jealous, has committed countless genocides and is even sponsoring a group of 8 men in New York to create "TRUTH" doctrines that get changed on a regular basis.

Why would your God put his trust in men who LIE even under oath?

The God you worship cannot be the INFINITE MIND who created the whole cosmos.

He is a creation of you and the GB.

And mind you, I don't have to prove nada to you or anybody.

I am not here to win souls.

Or is that what you are here to do?

Don't freaking tell me you are recording your time on Nairaland as hours on your monthly JW report sheet!

That would be pure deception, but I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who follows men who lie under oath.

Free you mind, and someday you will realize that all you have been looking for, has been buried deep inside you all long.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:09pm On Jan 15, 2022
oteneaaron:
Mr Millitary Intelligence Officer.
Like I told you many times before, even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I mean.
There many GOD'S that you,and other members of other different religions pay an allegiance to.
The God that you worship, gets angry, gets jealous, has committed countless genocides and is even sponsoring a group of 8 men in New York to create "TRUTH" doctrines that get changed on a regular basis.
Why would your God put his trust in men who LIE even under oath?
The God you worship cannot be the INFINITE MIND who created the whole cosmos.
He is a creation of you and the GB.
And mind you, I don't have to prove nada to you or anybody.
I am not here to win souls.
Or is that what you are here to do?
Don't freaking tell me you are recording your time on Nairaland as hours on your monthly JW report sheet!
That would be pure deception, but I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who follows men who lie under oath.
Free you mind, and someday you will realize that all you have been looking for, has been buried deep inside you all long.
This is the religious section! wink
There are entertainment, sports, politics, jobs, romance, careers, business, investment, NYSC, education, Cars, talks, property, health, travel, family, culture, food, agriculture, science, pets all on this forum.
Yet you came to RELIGION section and you can't just speak about your God but to tell others that they should stop worshiping as families of one another in the same faith! huh
I can understand! cheesy
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Deadlytruth(m):
Kobojunkie:
I believe you misconstrue the message of what Paul revealed to you there by his statement in Galatians 1 vs 11 - 12, and this probably because you don't understand the details of the New Covenant. undecided

In Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34, God revealed that in His New Agreement with Israel, that He alone would be Teacher to those who belong to Him - No longer would a man have to look to his neighbor to learn about God. Jesus Christ echoed the same instruction in His Gospel when He decreed that none of His followers set themselves up as Teachers over any of His own - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 - submitting that those who belong to Him are taught only by the Father - John 6 vs 45 -46 undecided

So, what Paul said is correct as far as all those who belong to Jesus Christ. They are not taught by men but by God Himself. What this means is, as Jesus Christ said, anyone who trained under any man/pastor/mog is not of God but of his master, the one who he trained under and so has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. undecided

So rather than look to Paul for your training, I suggest you look beyond Paul and begin to seek training directly from Jesus Christ, the one who is meant to be your only Teacher and Master from the moment you enter into His Kingdom. undecided

That said, as I already mentioned, Judas was also taught by Jesus Christ, but we all know that Judas rejected the teachings in the end. undecided
And didn't Paul declare that he was taught directly by Jesus Christ?
You obviously misconstrue teaching with instructions.
For example, if I tell you that it is bad to kill, you would reject my message because you never saw me sitting physically with Jesus Christ and learning from him? You would argue that no one should believe me but rather look up to Jesus?
So just because the contents of the books of Acts to Revelation weren't Jesus' own direct words, then the instructions, admonitions and end time warnings in them should be disregarded? May I ask you if anything in those books run contrary to the overall theme of Christ's messages as recorded in the gospels? Jesus gathered these people together, poured the Holy Spirit on them to teach them as he had promised, and then sent them out to speak under the influence of that Holy Spirit yet you are still arguing that their messages and teachings were inferior to Christ's? Do you recall that Jesus specially commanded them never to leave Jerusalem until he had sent them the Holy Spirit? Have you ever wondered why? It is simply because Jesus knew that they would teach their own personal opinions as his message if they were to start evangelizing without first receiving the promised Spirit of truth. So it follows that after receiving the Holy Spirit their personal opinions had become replaced with an accurate knowledge of truth which they could thereafter spread throughout the earth. So why still doubt their authority? And how exactly do you look up to Jesus without it being through the very scriptures taught you by the apostles and many later day followers of Christ?
Did you see Christ or hear from him directly when he was physically present on earth?
If we are to take your Jeremiah citation in the context of your own position, then even Jesus Christ was not qualified to be believed because the passage clearly said "God alone" would teach his followers.

My argument about the message in Galatians is that Paul was not taught by any man but by Christ himself and through a kind of revelation contrary to your earlier claim that all follower must undergo training under a mortal man like him hence no one could be later do better than the one who trained him.
In all, you have been arguing that Paul was inspired by the devil in his messages but now you have brought up an old Testament passage to claim that Paul's declaration in Galatians 1:12 was correct on the strength of the fact that Jesus himself taught Paul. So how then could Jesus have Himself taught Paul and yet Paul would later be inspired by the devil as you claim? Is Jesus same as the devil? Your beliefs are not consistent.
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Kobojunkie: 1:21pm On Jan 15, 2022
Deadlytruth:
And didn't Paul declare that he was taught directly by Jesus Christ?
You obviously misconstrue teaching with instructions.
For example, if I tell you that it is bad to kill, you would reject my message because you never saw me sitting physically with Jesus Christ and learning from him?
If we are to take your Jeremiah citation in the context of your own position, then even Jesus Christ was not qualified to be believed because the passage clearly said "God alone" would teach his followers.

My argument about the message in Galatians is that Paul was not taught by any man but by Christ himself and through a kind of revelation contrary to your earlier claim that all follower must undergo training under a mortal man like him hence no one could be later do better than the one who trained him.
In all, you have been arguing that Paul was inspired by the devil in his messages but now you have brought up an old Testament passage to claim that Paul's declaration in Galatians 1:12 was correct on the strength of the fact that Jesus himself taught Paul. So how then could Jesus have Himself taught Paul and yet Paul would later be inspired by the devil as you claim? Is Jesus same as the devil? Your beliefs are not consistent.
Go back through my previous post and read to understand what was written before responding undecided
Kobojunkie:
I believe you misconstrue the message of what Paul revealed to you there by his statement in Galatians 1 vs 11 - 12, and this probably because you don't understand the details of the New Covenant. undecided

In Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34, God revealed that in His New Agreement with Israel, that He alone would be Teacher to those who belong to Him - No longer would a man have to look to his neighbor to learn about God. Jesus Christ echoed the same instruction in His Gospel when He decreed that none of His followers set themselves up as Teachers over any of His own - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 - submitting that those who belong to Him are taught only by the Father - John 6 vs 45 -46 undecided

So, what Paul said is correct as far as all those who belong to Jesus Christ. All those who are of Jesus Christ are not taught by men but by God Himself. What this means is, as Jesus Christ said, anyone who trained under any man/pastor/mog is not of God but of his master, the one who he trained under and so has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. undecided

So rather than look to Paul for your training, I suggest you look beyond Paul and begin to seek training directly from Jesus Christ, the one who is meant to be your only Teacher and Master from the moment you enter into His Kingdom. undecided

That said, as I already mentioned, Judas was also taught by Jesus Christ, but we all know that Judas rejected the teachings in the end. undecided
All those who belong to God , to this very day, are those who are taught directly by God Himself, not by men or mogs. undecided

As for the source of Paul's inspiration, I haven't said a thing about him being inspired by the devil. Instead, i have tried to put it to you that it matters for not what he was inspired by this since we are not call to trust and obey the words of Paul, but instead the Words of Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Law in the Kingdom of God. undecided
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Deadlytruth(m): 1:48pm On Jan 15, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Go back through my previous post and read to understand what was written before responding undecided
All those who belong to God , to this very day, are those who are taught directly by God Himself, not by men or mogs. undecided

As for the source of Paul's inspiration, I haven't said a thing about him being inspired by the devil. Instead, i have tried to put it to you that it matters for not what he was inspired by this since we are not call to trust and obey the words of Paul, but instead the Words of Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Law in the Kingdom of God. undecided
How exactly do MOGs not belong to God? And how exactly do you determine who belongs to God and who doesn't without running the risk of the sin of being judgemental?
Jesus disciples once came to him and reported a man whom they saw casting out demons in His name without belonging to their group, but Jesus scolded them and made them understand that belonging to God has nothing to do with being among them physically. People listened to John The Baptist and took his words for the truth far before they ever knew Jesus meaning that these people didn't need to wait to see Jesus or hear from him first before believing what John The Baptist was saying about him.
John The Baptist was older than Jesus physically hence never sat down under Jesus to learn a thing yet he was a credible source of the message Jesus was about to bring.
The Ethiopian Eunuch was reading the scriptures but didn't understand until a follower of Jesus met him and explained to him. It is not in all cases that you can have access to Jesus directly. It must be through his already existing followers who would introduce you to the scriptures and nurture you in it till you become fully spiritually developed to stand on your own.
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Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by Kobojunkie: 2:10pm On Jan 15, 2022
Deadlytruth:
1. How exactly do MOGs not belong to God? And how exactly do you determine who belongs to God and who doesn't without running the risk of the sin of being judgemental?

2. Jesus disciples once came to him and reported a man whom they saw casting out demons in His name without belonging to their group, but Jesus scolded them and made them understand that belonging to God has nothing to do with being among them physically.

3. People listened to John The Baptist and took his words for the truth far before they ever knew Jesus meaning that these people didn't need to wait to see Jesus or hear from him first before believing what John The Baptist was saying about him.
John The Baptist was older than Jesus physically hence never sat down under Jesus to learn a thing yet he was a credible source of the message Jesus was about to bring.

4. The Ethiopian Eunuch was reading the scriptures but didn't understand until a follower of Jesus met him and explained to him. It is not in all cases that you can have access to Jesus directly. It must be through his already existing followers who would introduce you to the scriptures and nurture you in it till you become fully spiritually developed to stand on your own.
1. To begin with, no one who belongs to Jesus Christ would set his/herself up as Teachers over those in Jesus Christ's flock. Jesus Christ did teach, of His followers, that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments- John 14 vs 15 - 25 - and those who are His friends are those who do as He asks/commands - John 15 vs 14. undecided

In addition, no one who belongs to Jesus Christ would set his/herself up as Shepherd over God’s sheep - Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 & John 10 vs 1 - 16. Ofcourse, there is more. undecided

2. OK. undecided

3. John The Baptist was an Old Covenant prophet where God where God decreed that each man teach His neighbor His Law, and of Him - Deuteronomy 6 vs 6 - 9. However, as revealed earlier, God decreed that He alone would be Teacher to His own in His New Covenant - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 & John 6 vs 43 - 45 undecided

4. The Eunuch in question was not saved aka did not belong to Jesus Christ at the time Philip met up with Him. But after Philip preached to him and had him baptized, the man became of Jesus Christ and no longer had a need for Philip as a guide. undecided

Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to teach those who are in the world - not those who belong to Him already - His New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. Those of them who choose to accept - submit to and obey - Him, and are baptized, no longer require us a guides this because they are no longer of the world but of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ their one and only Teacher. undecided
Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by MaxInDHouse(m):
Many Israelites became Jesus' disciples through faith in his teachings.
He later CHOSE TWELVE out of those numerous disciples! Luke 6:13-16
WHY did Jesus chose twelves out of his disciples?
He himself explains:

Truly I say to you, in the re-creation, when the Son of man sits down on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel" Matthew 19:28
So according to Jesus some people will rule over others in his Kingdom!

I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those PUTTING FAITH IN ME THROUGH THEIR WORD" John 17:22
These chosen ones will serve as Jesus' mouthpiece to others.

So this little group will increase to 144,000 in Jesus' Kingdom {Revelations 14:1} they're the ones Jesus was referring to when he promised to go and prepare a place where they will stay to rule with the King who will rule over them as King while they will rule over billions in the Kingdom of Christ as Kings! John 14:1-3

So as future co-rulers with Jesus in his Kingdom they have authority over Jesus' earthly subjects to oversee all the affairs having to do with their orderliness {Hebrews 13:7} so all those making it difficult for them to do their jobs as OVERSEERS of Jesus' earthly subjects will not be allowed into God's kingdom! Matthew 25:40-46 compare to Hebrews 13:17
Kobojunkie:
1. To begin with, no one who belongs to Jesus Christ would set his/herself up as Teachers over those in Jesus Christ's flock. Jesus Christ did teach, of His followers, that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments- John 14 vs 15 - 25 - and those who are His friends are those who do as He asks/commands - John 15 vs 14. undecided
In addition, no one who belongs to Jesus Christ would set his/herself up as Shepherd over God’s sheep - Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 & John 10 vs 1 - 16. Ofcourse, there is more. undecided
2. OK. undecided
3. John The Baptist was an Old Covenant prophet where God where God decreed that each man teach His neighbor His Law, and of Him - Deuteronomy 6 vs 6 - 9. However, as revealed earlier, God decreed that He alone would be Teacher to His own in His New Covenant - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 & John 6 vs 43 - 45 undecided
4. The Eunuch in question was not saved aka did not belong to Jesus Christ at the time Philip met up with Him. But after Philip preached to him and had him baptized, the man became of Jesus Christ and no longer had a need for Philip as a guide. undecided
Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to teach those who are in the world - not those who belong to Him already - His New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. Those of them who choose to accept - submit to and obey - Him, and are baptized, no longer require us a guides this because they are no longer of the world but of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ their one and only Teacher. undecided
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