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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:19pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


The game Pique played as a second striker towards the end, the team was not down to ten men.

That is the point.

At what point will Semi join the front? When we are in possession right? When he moves up front, you are going to be down to seven men in defense and midfield. When you launch the ball and lose it, it becomes a suicidal scene. Because you must have either Simon or another payer supporting.

So with the red card, no matter what time, you can not send two tall strikers.

All those mostly playing were pact players to cover the lack of a player. So even putting Semi in midfield would have been difficult.

I repeat, the game was well managed tactically given the situation. You can not send in two tall strikers when your team is a man down.

Even if Barca have 6 men on the Pique will bump forward. U will never see Pique staying back when the team is losing so stop with the cap.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 3:31pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:

Koln have made an official bid for Obinna Nwobodo.
Nwobodo is not leaving Goztepe this season, the club have offered him a new contract.

He has completed almost 3x more tackles than Ndidi this season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:39pm On Jan 25, 2022
As much as we all agree that Eguavoen could have done better the circumstances of the match especially in the second half will test the best of managers anywhere in the world.

How can you as a coach legislate for your goalkeeper conceding a silly goal early in the 2nd half effectively destroying your half time team talk. Yes before the goal we weren't playing well however it wasn't exactly panic stations yet.

Again the coach made a sound substitution removing KC who was on a yellow for an experienced Iwobi how is it the coaches fault that the ref decided to send Alex off harshly wouldn't that have further dented any tactical plan?

We can criticize the coach but let's be fair and take into perspective the peculiar circumstances that he faced.

Pep that is one of the best coaches in the world hardly performs magic when his teams are one goal down and playing with 10 men.

TheGoodJoe:


The game Pique played as a second striker towards the end, the team was not down to ten men.

That is the point.

At what point will Semi join the front? When we are in possession right? When he moves up front, you are going to be down to seven men in defense and midfield. When you launch the ball and lose it, it becomes a suicidal scene. Because you must have either Simon or another payer supporting.

So with the red card, no matter what time, you can not send two tall strikers.

All those mostly playing were pact players to cover the lack of a player. So even putting Semi in midfield would have been difficult.

I repeat, the game was well managed tactically given the situation. You can not send in two tall strikers when your team is a man down.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:45pm On Jan 25, 2022
Bro Piqué going forward not going forward didn't barca still chop cricket scorelines like 8-2, 4-0, 7-0 from Bayern and PSG?

BascoVanVeli:


Even if Barca have 6 men on the Pique will bump forward. U will never see Pique staying back when the team is losing so stop with the cap.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 3:46pm On Jan 25, 2022
komekn:


The NFF contracts hungry coaches with dubious CV's that will play game with them.

That means a big % of their salary will go to someone that's in the NFF in the first instance. He will be amiable to them NFF putting in their favoured player's in his team selection.

Finally, a coach that they can manipulate and or enforce their decisions upon.


No sane person picks Paul Aigbogun if he wants to succeed ... Aigbogun's under 20 teams were really poor. Suprised he is still anywhere near our national teams... And he's NFF's chief scout.. grin

I also think it's wrong for a country fighting endemic corruption to have an assistant coach that was busted for collecting bribe have a real job coaching as assistant coach of the SE..

It goes to show Amaju and his cohorts are bunch of corrupt mofos ..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:53pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


What you are typing is perception. Judge Eguavoen for his on field performance. He was voted best coach of he group stage. He gave us the fear factor. United the team and brought back belief.

And those guys over tried. I am proud of them.

So spending sleepless nights because of little to know time is a fact.

Not worth criticising but praising.

Yes, what i typed is my perception, because i have seen failure and success to identify when someone is on the wrong route or on the right one, although my learning is progressive.

How splendid was his on field performance judging from the calibre of players he is coordinating and the quality of the opposition he faced.
We are talking about Egypt, Sudan, and Guinea Bissau, not Belgium, France nor England Against Egypt we were Just lucky to win with a lone goal. Our wins were also partly due to what i term the new coach syndrome. We faced a well coached Tunisia who were quicker at making decisions and lost.

Mr TheGoodJoe, this is a coaching problem. Individual brilliances got us far. How do you see our passes and coordination as a team. Little wonder no player of ours made the team of the group stages, emphasis is on teamwork. Forget about the thrills, we were a poorly coached side. When i saw our lineup against Egypt, especially the tactical setup, I knew we wont go far, but i said maybe it's just against Egypt, then i saw the lineup again and again.

You are a football analyst, and a sound analyst at that. Please tell me how appropriate is a 4 2 2 2, 4 4 1 1 or 4 4 2 tactical formation given the kind of players we have. How suitable is it? How good is our composition of play, our long balls from defense to the wings, and the concomitant off tangent crosses? We are a poorly coached side.

There is no fear factor with us. Tunisians outsmarted us with a depleted squad and showed us how deficient and rigid we are in tactics.

Eguavoen is part of the technical crew, the players are not new to him. Telling us he spent sleepless nights to pick his players shows a deficiency. To me it might be political, and a way to excuse a future failure. I said it is a loser mentality. A loser starts making excuses with his efforts even before he finally meets with failure.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:00pm On Jan 25, 2022
Oasis001:
grin



Blood still dey boil..... this ain't right to discuss any subject objectively.
If that match had entered penalties (which was Tunisia's desire cos they deliberately snuffed out some of the counter attacking opportunities they had), it would have been less painful.

But my God, what kind of keeper is Maduka. As in straight direct ball (which I believe was the first time they had a shot on target) played by Tunisia ended inside our net. That means if the defense had not been solid through all the other 3 matches we would have been conceding goals?

Where I began to have profound doubt about Maduka is the match against Sierra Leone. Every goal bound ball Sierra Leone directed at him ended inside the net. No saves, nada!

It's a mystery to me how such a well built guy who is the first choice GK at his club, cannot evoke confidence when he's manning the sticks for us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:08pm On Jan 25, 2022
Meliforme:


Yes, what i typed is my perception, because i have seen failure and success to identify when someone is on the wrong route or on the right one, although my learning is progressive.

How splendid was his on field performance judging from the calibre of players he is coordinating and the quality of the opposition he faced.
We are talking about Egypt, Sudan, and Guinea Bissau, not Belgium, France nor England Against Egypt we were Just lucky to win with a lone goal. Our wins were also partly due to what i term the new coach syndrome. We faced a well coached Tunisia who were quicker at making decisions and lost.

Mr TheGoodJoe, this is a coaching problem. Individual brilliances got us far. How do you see our passes and coordination as a team. Little wonder no player of ours made the team of the group stages, emphasis is on teamwork. Forget about the thrills, we were a poorly coached side. When i saw our lineup against Egypt, especially the tactical setup, I knew we wont go far, but i said maybe it's just against Egypt, then i saw the lineup again and again.

You are a football analyst, and a sound analyst at that. Please tell me how appropriate is a 4 2 2 2, 4 4 1 1 or 4 4 2 tactical formation given the kind of players we have. How suitable is it? How good is our composition of play, our long balls from defense to the wings, and the concomitant off tangent crosses? We are a poorly coached side.

There is no fear factor with us. Tunisians outsmarted us with a depleted squad and showed us how deficient and rigid we are in tactics.

Eguavoen is part of the technical crew, the players are not new to him. Telling us he spent sleepless nights to pick his players shows a deficiency. To me it might be political, and a way to excuse a future failure. I said it is a loser mentality. A loser starts making excuses with his efforts even before he finally meets with failure.

First, Eguavoen is part of the Technical Committee, not the technical crew. These are two different things.

Secondly, when you talk team work, formation, etc. You are talking of preference. However, Coach Eguavoen has a different perspective of the game. It is a pure offensive one but we used it to full effect.

That is down to him and his tactical acumen.

He also brought a clear improvement of players. Eguavoen is not for the glamor of possessive football. He wants it fast, direct and decisive. We saw it in full action in the four games.

When you are talking tactical flexibility, in the game against Tunisia, he showed it to the extreme.

Finally, saying we won by a lone goal against Egypt means you are only quantifying football by just the goal scored when football is far bigger than that.

It was debated extensively here and we totally outplayed the Egyptians.

So despite all your preferences, Eguavoen did it his way and gave a good account of himself.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 4:09pm On Jan 25, 2022
Barryseal:

Afcon is our only chance of a silverware at senior men's football and also a decent shot at FIFA confederations Cup. Cameroun got to the finals when they lost Foe back in 2003.
The world cup is simply above our level. Infact the last memorable match we played at the world cup was Spain in France 98.
Quite perplexing people saying they liked being kicked out at Afcon 2nd round so as to focus on world Cup qualification. Very queer thinking there.
Confederations cup wey Dem don cancel abi which one

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:09pm On Jan 25, 2022
The away tie against Cape Verde sealed it for me where he conceded on his near post that he should ordinarily have covered.

He can still come good but we needed someone with tournament experience like Uzoho or even Akpeyi sef anyway no use gripping what has happened has happened

Mujtahida:

If that match had entered penalties (which was Tunisia's desire cos they deliberately snuffed out some of the counter attacking opportunities they had), it would have been less painful.

But my God, what kind of keeper is Maduka. As in straight direct ball (which I believe was the first time they had a shot on target) played by Tunisia ended inside our net. That means if the defense had not been solid through all the other 3 matches we would have been conceding goals?

Where I began to have profound doubt about Maduka is the match against Sierra Leone. Every goal bound ball Sierra Leone directed at him ended inside the net. No saves, nada!

It's a mystery to me how such a well built guy who is the first choice GK at his club, cannot evoke confidence when he's manning the sticks for us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:11pm On Jan 25, 2022
Danielnino00:

On this occasion,I agree with you... Nearly all the top guns in the glass house are politicians who know little about football...
One thing is for sure, Pinnick will do all he can to make sure we qualify for Qatar...There's a lot of financial benefits that await the NFF just for qualifying.. grin ... Arab money will go round...


Las las Amaju na deals man and politician, I first knew him when he was Chair of Warri Wolves and sport's something Delta state.

Then EEE head neva swell up , now enough £££+ $$$+€€€ enter hand, now my number no deh go through AGAIN. Ha ha Naija levels change .

You are right everything will be done but can a Leopard change its spots.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:14pm On Jan 25, 2022
forgiveness:


Why did I request he be substituted before he gets a red?

You posted this yourself. Or you did not read what you posted? Was that a tactical reason?
undecided

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:15pm On Jan 25, 2022
Parrot69:

This is a man who was short of Strikers who would have made a very big impact in this tournament.
This is also a man who had to assemble a makeshift team within a few days prior to the tournament.
Looking at the game against Tunisia;
Quite alright he was outsmarted, had it been we had scored an early goal like we did against Egypt, that game would have gone in our favor. But the Tunisians knowing our point man, caged him well.
On the otherside, Chukwueze wasn’t helpful.
Things got worse when point man no:2 who would have really changed the game got red carded few minutes into the game.
We had to rely on luck.
Had it been we had an AM, a good playmaker the story would have been different.

He was short of strikers, but he has Iheanacho, Sadiq, Taiwo, These players are prolific, or do you think they are not?

He has been part of the technical crew and shouldn't be short of ideas.

The man at the sidelines for the Tunisians, was the Tunisian assistant coach, not even the main coach and the Tunisians still carried the day.

Concerning Chukwueze. Playing an inverted winger as a midfielder shows how poor their understanding of personnel deployment is, and the way he was used is just funny.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by otokx(m): 4:17pm On Jan 25, 2022
All this talk, what is Nigeria doing in preparation for the world cup qualifiers against Ghana?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:23pm On Jan 25, 2022
Meliforme:


I don't want to call Eguavoen a poor tactician.
He was not just outclassed, he was in want of ideas.

Have you forgotten that I said Eguavoen showed the mentality of a loser when he talked about his sleepless nights spent in the effort to draft the 28 man list. I said that it shouldn't be so. Life is predictable, we spot patterns, and we tell.
Eguavoen was clearly in want of ideas.

Coming to tell us the boys tried, is akin to saying i spent sleepless nights drafting the 28 man list. Efforts without intelligence will make excuses and failure. Eguavoen was outclassed.

Dude also knows subconsciously that he will fail and you can tell from his speeches, his excuses etc.
I really don't know what to say about the bolded but it's such ridiculous nonsense. So if a man says that he's spent sleepless night to arrive at a decision, it is an indicator of failure? I've never heard such inanity in my life!

Amidst this loss, all sorts of witless criticisms find expression like a dam letting out water from a muddy river.

"Efforts without intelligence will make excuses and failure"

What is the meaning of this word salad bro? Just because Eguavoen said he had sleepless night to determine who would be picked out of an already submitted 40 man list, now amounts to effort without intelligence? Was it only through effort and no intelligence that he picked those 28 players?

If we do not interrogate some of the things some of you say here, the tag that this place is for ogogoro analysts will stick. Na wa.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:23pm On Jan 25, 2022
Meliforme:


He was short of strikers, but he has Iheanacho, Sadiq, Taiwo, These players are prolific, or do you think they are not?

He has been part of the technical crew and shouldn't be short of ideas.

The man at the sidelines for the Tunisians, was the Tunisian assistant coach, not even the main coach and the Tunisians still carried the day.

Concerning Chukwueze. Playing an inverted winger as a midfielder shows how poor their understanding of personnel deployment is, and the way he was used is just funny.

Eguavoen was part of the technical committee,not crew. They are not the same thing.

Tactical work is mostly done in practice, so do not make it look like the Assistant coached the team.

Whether inverted or not inverted, Eguavoen dominated Tunisia even with a man down.

So tell me, what are you criticising?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:24pm On Jan 25, 2022
That's the point. Eguavoen has stepped down, what concrete steps are we taking to employ a sound coach to guarantee our Qualification for the WC.
If na Peseiro matter we still dey na crossed fingers o
otokx:
All this talk, what is Nigeria doing in preparation for the world cup qualifiers against Ghana?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 4:26pm On Jan 25, 2022
Mujtahida:

I really don't know what to say about the bolded but it's such ridiculous nonsense. So if a man says that he's spent sleepless night to arrive at a decision, it is an indicator of failure? I've never heard such inanity in my life!

Amidst this loss, all sorts of witless criticisms find expression like a dam letting out water from a muddy river.

"Efforts without intelligence will make excuses and failure"

What is the meaning of this word salad bro? Just because Eguavoen said he had sleepless night to determine who would be picked out of an already submitted 40 man list, now amounts to effort without intelligence?

If we do not interrogate some of the things some of you say here, the tag that this place is for ogogoro analysts will stick. Na wa.

Dt excuse is one of d dumbest I av ever heard..it doesn't even correlate at all cool...I av been waiting for someone to tackle dt notion..but everyone kept quiet since he had been making dt notion...very dumb statement grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:28pm On Jan 25, 2022
chrisooblog:
The away tie against Cape Verde sealed it for me where he conceded on his near post that he should ordinarily have covered.

He can still come good but we needed someone with tournament experience like Uzoho or even Akpeyi sef anyway no use gripping what has happened has happened

We don't have GK. Simpliciter.
I feel for the young man though and I feel that it is in bad taste, to hurl insults at him and wish him death the way many people did on his Instagram page.

I don't understand how our GKs would be doing great at their clubs yet in the GWG they'd flounder. Look Akpeyi. In the PSA he's a good GK but in the GWG, he'd be shaking like a leaf.

Look at the other GKs like that of Sierra Leone, Comoros and Gabon who made saves after saves. They are low division GKs. Are we jinxed?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:32pm On Jan 25, 2022
To be fair it takes a while to build confidence as a national team GK. Even the great Enyeama struggled in the beginning. Vincent dropped the odd clangers here and there but his numerous saves made us overlook and forget.

Mujtahida:

We don't have GK. Simpliciter.
I feel for the young man though and I feel that it is in bad taste, to hurl insults at him and wish him death the way many people did on his Instagram page.

I don't understand how our GKs would be doing great at their clubs yet in the GWG they'd flounder. Look Akpeyi. In the PSA he's a good GK but in the GWG, he'd be shaking like a leaf.

Look at the other GKs like that of Sierra Leone, Comoros and Gabon who made saves after saves. They are low division GKs. Are we jinxed?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:36pm On Jan 25, 2022
elyte89:


Dt excuse is one of d dumbest I av ever heard..it doesn't even correlate at all cool...I av been waiting for someone to tackle dt notion..but everyone kept quiet since he had been making dt notion...very dumb statement grin
My brother, I couldn't help it. A man tells his friend baba I had sleepless night reading for this paper. Then when the results turns out poor, his friend will say, well I can see patterns, I knew you were going to fail this exam when you told me that you had sleepless night preparing for it.

I've never seen such upside down, scatterbrain thinking. That he even thought about this is ludicrous and then to have the boldness to write it out, is shocking. That comment Like kellycute will say is a 'two naira post'

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:38pm On Jan 25, 2022
chrisooblog:
To be fair it takes a while to build confidence as a national team GK. Even the great Enyeama struggled in the beginning. Vincent dropped the odd clangers here and there but his numerous saves made us overlook and forget.

That's the kernel of it. Saves! Maduka doesn't make saves!
Imagine if he had saved that ball? The defenders have been doing great. Just the first time they made an error, fiam goal don enter.

I've been asking myself the question:what is the essence of a goalkeeper if he can't make saves?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 4:42pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Chidera was not exceptional in the competition. What guarantee do we have that Chidera would have had a good game?
Adrenalin things. When the thing don pump, the person go dey play like say he is on drugs. Our right side of the pitch was weak, attack wise.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:45pm On Jan 25, 2022
comodo:

Adrenalin things. When the thing don pump, the person go dey play like say he is on drugs. Our right side of the pitch was weak, attack wise.

Both sides were weak due to the Tunisian's employing a compact wing press system. So we later switched to a more direct attack system.

However, no coach makes changes hoping Adrenaline pumps.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:47pm On Jan 25, 2022
Mujtahida:

That's the kernel of it. Saves! Maduka doesn't make saves!
Imagine if he had saved that ball? The defenders have been doing great. Just the first time they made an error, fiam goal don enter.

I've been asking myself the question:what is the essence of a goalkeeper if he can't make saves?

Make the team look good.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 4:49pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Make the team look good.
U wan start another world war

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:52pm On Jan 25, 2022
chrisooblog:
Bro Piqué going forward not going forward didn't barca still chop cricket scorelines like 8-2, 4-0, 7-0 from Bayern and PSG?


Did Bayern and PSG score 4 goals in the final 10 minutes U have no idea wat we were talking about just rest

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:52pm On Jan 25, 2022
comodo:

U wan start another world war


I beg, let them leave my boy Okoye. I believe he will pick up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:12pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Make the team look good.
Wahala dey.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:16pm On Jan 25, 2022
Joezinho:


No sane person picks Paul Aigbogun if he wants to succeed ... Aigbogun's under 20 teams were really poor. Suprised he is still anywhere near our national teams... And he's NFF's chief scout.. grin

I also think it's wrong for a country fighting endemic corruption to have an assistant coach that was busted for collecting bribe have a real job coaching as assistant coach of the SE..

It goes to show Amaju and his cohorts are bunch of corrupt mofos ..

Bruv U deh talk deh matter like say na micro economics.

Look it's not a question of who is corrupt from the Judiciary, Legislative , Executive from gate keeper to President but WHO IS NOT.❓❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:27pm On Jan 25, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


You posted this yourself. Or you did not read what you posted? Was that a tactical reason?
undecided

What was the duty of Iheanacho in that game?

Perhaps, if you knew his duty precisely you would have known why he ought to have been removed ASAP.

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