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Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 12:04am On Feb 01, 2022
@ Achorladey
When Jesus was praying to His Father in John 17, he called Him the one true God. Also Paul said, to them there's one God, the Father...
But Trinitarians say God consist two more persons...

Which is false and unscriptural?
a). Triune God
b). God is one person, the Father
c). I don't know i want to learn
f). Both

Who should we believe?
a). Trinitarians
b). Jesus and Paul
c). It doesn't matter
d). a and b

Learn!
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
(1) Jesus sent his disciples to go throughout the earth and make disciples
you false jw's have been making disciples around the world for your church for a hundred years, the rcc and some other churches have been making disciples around the world for their churches for many hundreds of years

u always talking about false jw org. and members, posting many pics/idols
rcc's idols are statues as well as pics/paintings

fortunately some churches and private individuals make disciples for "Christ" and not for a fraudelent church

MaxInDHouse: (2) Jesus ordered his followers to love their neighbours
the love you false jw's have for your neighbours is the same as the world has:

many moons ago i walked with a group of false jw's along a street, and heard one say to another: that nice big house over there, i will take that after armageddon, others agreed that they will also take nice houses for themselves after armageddon

desiring what belongs to your neighbor is not having love for them :

deut 5:21 Neither shalt thou covet thy neighbor’s wife; neither shalt thou desire thy neighbor’s house, his field, or his man-servant, or his maid-servant, his ox, or his ass, or anything that is thy neighbor’s.

concerning the commandments, once a false jw said to me: the commandmandments are done away with, but it's mentioned not to do those thinngs in other parts of the bible

^^ so funny and so duh, of course


MaxInDHouse: (3) Jesus taught his followers that they are no part of the world
i showed that you false jw's are very much part of the world in answer for (2)

MaxInDHouse: (4)Jesus ordered his followers not to revenge nor defend any city
peter wanted to defend Jesus, and Jesus allowed peter to carry a knife which peter used on an enemy of Jesus

cowardly false jw's would not help protect their families against an invading army:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

the time of peace in the world and turning weapons into plough shears has not yet come


MaxInDHouse: (5)Jesus prayed that his followers should have the same line of thought
^^ Jesus didn't pray that his followers should have the same line of thought in desiring his neighbours house etc. that same line of thought of covertness comes from the devil

MaxInDHouse: (6) Jesus taught his followers that love must be their IDENTIFYING MARK

smiley
your love for one another as the world has, is not the identifying mark for disciples

u so easily deceive yourself oh self righteous and puffed up false jw bragger


for false jw's speaking lies is natural, just like it is for the devil:

Joh 8:44  You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 6:24am On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
Mafọ Mr somebody666 grin grin
You know who you are grin grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 6:36am On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
@ Achorladey
When Jesus was praying to His Father in John 17, he called Him the one true God. Also Paul said, to them there's one God, the Father...
But Trinitarians say God consist two more persons...

Which is false and unscriptural?
a). Triune God
b). God is one person, the Father
c). I don't know i want to learn
f). Both

Who should we believe?
a). Trinitarians
b). Jesus and Paul
c). It doesn't matter
d). a and b

Learn!
You no go wriggle free. It is a locked in discussion

But Trinitarians say God consist two more persons
My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER? grin grin

Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:06am On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
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I'm having difficulty reaching you, please if you can try to contact Janosky through mail and give him the mobile number you're using for data. He has my direct contact.
Good morning!
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 11:10am On Feb 01, 2022
achorladey:
You no go wriggle free. It is a locked in discussion



My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER? grin grin
The answer is definitely not!
Polytheist like you worship 3 persons.
1 John 5:3 and John 20:17, Jesus Christ is obedient to the Only true God,he worships.

achorladey:
Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
John 20:17, you can not love Jesus when you go against JEHOVAH's doctrine @ John 7:16 & John 20:17 to worship 3 persons. grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 12:26pm On Feb 01, 2022
I know say you no go answer. grin grin

How can the love and worship the Father in spirit and truth like Jesus taught when they don't know Him, since they confuse Jesus to be the Almighty God Himself?



achorladey:
You no go wriggle free. It is a locked in discussion



My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER? grin grin

Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 12:27pm On Feb 01, 2022
I'm myself cheesy

achorladey:
You know who you are grin grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 1:06pm On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
I know say you no go answer. grin grin

How can the love and worship the Father in spirit and truth like Jesus taught when they don't know Him, since they confuse Jesus to be the Almighty God Himself?
In that TRINITY belief they know God as the FATHER.


This is a locked discussion

Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.+ 24 God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth

My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER?

Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 1:06pm On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
I'm myself cheesy
As Nobody101010 grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 1:15pm On Feb 01, 2022
Who did Jesus taught the disciples to worship in spirit and TRUTH.
a). Jesus himself
b). God the Father
c). Triune Gods which incude Jesus
d). Free me make i Japa grin grin
achorladey:
In that TRINITY belief they know God as the FATHER.


This is a locked discussion

Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.+ 24 God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth

My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER?

Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f):
Janosky:
You have to remove "WAS" in John 1:1 and
Continue to please yourself and DECEIVE yourself grin grin

Exodus 7:1 and Exodus 4:16, even Moses WAS God'

John 20:17, John wrote and Jesus said, "I am ascending to my God and your God"
1 Corinthians 11:1-3, we know Paul imitated Jesus Christ @ John 20:17.
Continue to worship your 3 deities grin grin
[/b]

Yes !
[b]Greek lexicon 3588 2316>" the God" is the Father, God Almighty @ John1:1 ,@ John 14:1 & John 4:24 & from Genesis to Revelation.
Spot the difference and cure your Delusion grin cheesy

John 1:1 koine Greek "the Word was with the God , his Father @ John 14:1 & John 4:24.
Greek lexicon 2316 Theos=God/a god ("Proven by the biblehub screenshot published by your fellow Trinitarians).[/b]
"Was God" meaning godlike, @ Exodus 4:16 , Exodus 7:1 & John 1:1.
Hosea 12 :3-4, Jacob "struggled with God, "struggled with the angel,at Bethel Jacob met God face to face" grin
Hosea,12:3-4, angel is God, this girl you dey reason am ?
grin grin
Your own case is different, you don't deserve any explanation. Silence is the best answer for you.
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 3:54pm On Feb 01, 2022
What's up Rose smiley

Rosement:
Your own case is different, you don't deserve any explanation. Silence is the best answer for you.
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 4:44pm On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
What's up Rose smiley
I'm good, what about u? smiley
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 4:55pm On Feb 01, 2022
[quote author=cornelboy post=109863271][/quote]You cannot even see my answer to your question grin grin grin

No wonder you will not be able to answer my question.

In that TRINITY belief they know God as the FATHER.


This is a locked discussion

Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.+ 24 God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth

My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER?

Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 5:14pm On Feb 01, 2022
Janosky:
The answer is definitely not!
Polytheist like you worship 3 persons.
1 John 5:3 and John 20:17, Jesus Christ is obedient to the Only true God,he worships.



John 20:17, you can not love Jesus when you go against JEHOVAH's doctrine @ John 7:16 & John 20:17 to worship 3 persons. grin grin
We know your own mode of operation. LIE FIRST, then later accept the LIE as you truth grin grin grin. Your response quoted below is.........

The answer is definitely not!
Meaning they don't love the Father grin grin. You will LIE on behalf of TRINITARIANS to look good paapaa. When next you come to a TRINITARIAN thread this will haunt you. grin

and you added...

Polytheist like you worship 3 persons.
In that three persons do they love God the FATHER grin grin grin. Do they worship God the FATHER as God in that three persons?


Polytheist like you worship 3 persons. 1 John 5:3 and John 20:17, Jesus Christ is obedient to the Only true God,he worships.
The only true God Jesus worship is that referred to as God the FATHER abi?

Do TRINITARIAN also worship that God the FATHER that Jesus worships? grin grin

Do they love that God that Jesus worship and loves to?

We know UNITARIANS like you worship DOGHEAD grin grin grin

Don't ask me how I know. grin grin

The question remains do they worship the Father as God in that three persons grin grin

If you agree they do, do they love him.


Another lie installment is what I am waiting for grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 7:27pm On Feb 01, 2022
I'm alright. I thought you've left the thread for good smiley
Rosement:
I'm good, what about u? smiley
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 7:42pm On Feb 01, 2022
I deliberately didn't answer your question grin

The answer to the italized question is;
they don't cos they take Jesus as the Father when it's obvious that the bible teaches distinction between them.

Answer to the bolded question;
They do love Jesus with their mouth but not in deeds cos they chose the words of trinitarians over his words and the bible.
Jesus himself taught his disciples to worship the Father in spirit and TRUTH! wink cheesy

achorladey:
You cannot even see my answer to your question grin grin grin

No wonder you will not be able to answer my question.

In that TRINITY belief they know God as the FATHER.


This is a locked discussion

Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.+ 24 God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth

My question was do they love God the FATHER. I know in that trinity doctrine there is God the Father. Do they love God the FATHER?

Since you find it difficult to answer. Do they love Jesus? Does loving Jesus, mean they hate the Father?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 7:45pm On Feb 01, 2022
Lol Unitarians are those that believe Jesus as the same God of the old testament. They come out boldly and say Jehovah is the same person as Jesus. They say he's the Father. I respect them more than trinitarians grin grin
Both of them are unscriptural!

achorladey:
We know your own mode of operation. LIE FIRST, then later accept the LIE as you truth grin grin grin. Your response quoted below is.........



Meaning they don't love the Father grin grin. You will LIE on behalf of TRINITARIANS to look good paapaa. When next you come to a TRINITARIAN thread this will haunt you. grin

and you added...



In that three persons do they love God the FATHER grin grin grin. Do they worship God the FATHER as God in that three persons?






The only true God Jesus worship is that referred to as God the FATHER abi?

Do TRINITARIAN also worship that God the FATHER that Jesus worships? grin grin

Do they love that God that Jesus worship and loves to?

We know UNITARIANS like you worship DOGHEAD grin grin grin

Don't ask me how I know. grin grin

The question remains do they worship the Father as God in that three persons grin grin

If you agree they do, do they love him.


Another lie installment is what I am waiting for grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 7:57pm On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol Unitarians are those that believe Jesus as the same God of the old testament. They come out boldly and say Jehovah is the same person as Jesus. They say he's the Father. I respect them more than trinitarians grin grin
Both of them are unscriptural!
Lol Unitarians are those that believe Jesus as the same God of the old testament.
Na so we dey lost people inside discussion. UNITARIAN as used here by me is to show Janosky that he believe that God is ONE.

I haven't even said anything concerning who that ONE GOD is except him calling his ONE GOD = DOGHEAD grin grin

Learn.


They come out boldly and say Jehovah is the same person as Jesus.
When you read the above you will see how jumping on my use of unitarians is irrelevant here grin grin grin


They say he's the Father. I respect them more than trinitarians grin grin[b]Both of them are unscriptural
And we no both UNITARIANS and TRINITARIANS you are talking about made HEAVEN with such beliefs grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 8:07pm On Feb 01, 2022
cornelboy:
I deliberately didn't answer your question grin

The answer to the italized question is;
they don't cos they take Jesus as the Father when it's obvious that the bible teaches distinction between them.

Answer to the bolded question;
They do love Jesus with their mouth but not in deeds cos they chose the words of trinitarians over his words and the bible.
Jesus himself taught his disciples to worship the Father in spirit and TRUTH! wink cheesy
I deliberately didn't answer your question
E pele ti yin sir deliberately or not deliberately grin grin

The answer to the italized question is; they don't cos they take Jesus as the Father when it's obvious that the bible teaches distinction between them.
Na your own words go nail you. grin grin Here it is below....

But Trinitarians say God consist two more persons
.

You see how you dey manipulate yourself and this doctrine grin grin


Answer to the bolded question;
They do love Jesus with their mouth but not in deeds cos they chose the words of trinitarians over his words and the bible.
Their is always a clause and I see the but grin grin grin. Reality tells me they love Jesus and by extension the God the FATHER. Taking the words of TRINITARIANS over the Bible still does not prevent that. grin grin grin


Jesus himself taught his disciples to worship the Father in spirit and TRUTH!
Do TRINITARIANS worship God the Father? After all na THREE persons dey this TRINITY? grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 8:22pm On Feb 01, 2022
What's the Father's name? Is Jesus the Father's name?
Have you seen any Trinitarians use God's sacred name YHWH in worship?
Don't they direct all their worship to Jesus?
Here's where the confusion lies, trinitarians of nowadays even believe Jesus to be YHWH.

Sometimes i wonder if trinitarians and Unitarians are twin brothers grin grin

The Bible not reality tells me that Trinity is a false doctrine not supported by the scriptures!

Bàbá jábọ́ ńbè cheesy grin

achorladey:
E pele ti yin sir deliberately or not deliberately grin grin



Na your own words go nail you. grin grin Here it is below....

.

You see how you dey manipulate yourself and this doctrine grin grin




Their is always a clause and I see the but grin grin grin. Reality tells me they love Jesus and by extension the God the FATHER. Taking the words of TRINITARIANS over the Bible still does not prevent that. grin grin grin




Do TRINITARIANS worship God the Father? After all na THREE persons dey this TRINITY? grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 8:28pm On Feb 01, 2022
Lol na you de decide the people wey de enter heaven. You be gateman for there grin grin

What name do you call those that believe God the Father as a single person (just YHWH) and Jesus as a separate person from Him and not equal to Him grin grin

achorladey:
Na so we dey lost people inside discussion. UNITARIAN as used here by me is to show Janosky that he believe that God is ONE.

I haven't even said anything concerning who that ONE GOD is except him calling his ONE GOD = DOGHEAD grin grin

Learn.




When you read the above you will see how jumping on my use of unitarians is irrelevant here grin grin grin




And we no both UNITARIANS and TRINITARIANS you are talking about made HEAVEN with such beliefs grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Nobody555(f): 8:40pm On Feb 01, 2022
A girl doesn't smoke undecided i mean i don't smoke

achorladey:
Shey my neighbour dey smoke weed ni?

I am not aware grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey:
cornelboy:
Lol na you de decide the people wey de enter heaven. You be gateman for there grin grin

What name do you call those that believe God the Father as a single person (just YHWH) and Jesus as a separate person from Him and not equal to Him grin grin
Lol na you de decide the people wey de enter heaven. You be gateman for there grin grin
I am only bringing to your notice what your beliefs are regarding those who had believed in TRINITY in times past and your beliefs states clearly that the FIRST RESURRECTION to HEAVEN is already happening. The reason the remaining 144,000 are called REMNANT. I believe you understand what that means.

What name do you call those that believe God the Father as a single person (just YHWH) and Jesus as a separate person from Him and not equal to Him
I am not a name manufacturer grin grin grin.
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey:
Nobody555:
A girl doesn't smoke undecided i mean i don't smoke
And you are you are introducing what will make one DIE young to me because me I am a boy grin grin because na only boys dey smoke grin grin

Na so una dey love una neighbours?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f):
cornelboy:
I'm alright. I thought you've left the thread for good smiley
I pardon you for assuming wrongly, I'm use to your wrong assumptions already. I was so busy, I had some important things to do but good to know someone here missed me.
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey:
cornelboy:
What's the Father's name? Is Jesus the Father's name?
Have you seen any Trinitarians use God's sacred name YHWH in worship?
Don't they direct all their worship to Jesus?
Here's where the confusion lies, trinitarians of nowadays even believe Jesus to be YHWH.

Sometimes i wonder if trinitarians and Unitarians are twin brothers grin grin

The Bible not reality tells me that Trinity is a false doctrine not supported by the scriptures!

Bàbá jábọ́ ńbè cheesy grin
What's the Father's name?
Father that is what Jesus used the most in calling God. grin grin

Is Jesus the Father's name?
Check above. Jesus didn't address the Father as Jesus.

Have you seen any Trinitarians use God's sacred name YHWH in worship?
When your eyes and ears want to see and hear only what you are allowed to see and hear you will not know that they use more than YHWH in worship grin grin grin.

Before the existence of the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses they met TRINITARIAN using YHWH. Some will even tell you what you have come to know as JEHOVAH was given to you by a CATHOLIC MONK grin grin grin

Don't they direct all their worship to Jesus?
Directing all their worship to the TRINITY includes the FATHER and Jesus. grin grin


Here's where the confusion lies, trinitarians of nowadays even believe Jesus to be YHWH.
TRINITARIANS will tell you, you don't understand what it means. Be careful grin grin

Sometimes i wonder if trinitarians and Unitarians are twin brothers
You are free to keep wondering grin grin

The Bible not reality tells me that Trinity is a false doctrine not supported by the scriptures!
TRINITARIANS will tell you TRINITY is not a false doctrine grin grin

Bàbá jábọ́ ńbè
Ti e ba n ja bo. E ma fori la le sa oooo
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Janosky: 10:53pm On Feb 01, 2022
achorladey:
We know your own mode of operation. LIE FIRST, then later accept the LIE as you truth grin grin grin. Your response quoted below is.........



Meaning they don't love the Father grin grin. You will LIE on behalf of TRINITARIANS to look good paapaa. When next you come to a TRINITARIAN thread this will haunt you. grin

and you added...



In that three persons do they love God the FATHER grin grin grin. Do they worship God the FATHER as God in that three persons?






The only true God Jesus worship is that referred to as God the FATHER abi?

Do TRINITARIAN also worship that God the FATHER that Jesus worships? grin grin

Do they love that God that Jesus worship and loves to?

We know UNITARIANS like you worship DOGHEAD grin grin grin

Don't ask me how I know. grin grin

The question remains do they worship the Father as God in that three persons grin grin

If you agree they do, do they love him.


Another lie installment is what I am waiting for grin grin grin
1 John 5:3 if you love God keep His commandments.

John 20:17 , worship only the Father and God of Jesus.

Simple instructions without Achorladey medemede
grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey:
Janosky:
1 John 5:3 if you love God keep His commandments.

John 20:17 , worship only the Father and God of Jesus.

Simple instructions without Achorladey medemede
grin
1 John 5:3 if you love God keep His commandments.
The issue is not if, do TRINITARIANS love God the FATHERgrin grin grin

worship only the Father and God of Jesus
Do they worship God the Father of Jesus in the TRINITY?

Simple instructions without Achorladey medemede
No be today I don show times over una no dey follow una God's viewpoint. You suppose still remember.

I was waiting for you to add more LIES and DECEPTION peddling grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Nobody555(f): 1:15am On Feb 02, 2022
Lol initial post is which mod of weed did you smoke?


achorladey:
And you are you are introducing what will make one DIE young to me because me I am a boy grin grin because na only boys dey smoke grin grin

Na so una dey love una neighbours?
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 6:07am On Feb 02, 2022
Nobody555:
Lol initial post is which mod of weed did you smoke?
initial post is which mod of weed you smoke
Initial response was I am not aware my neighbour smoke weed. grin grin grin

You came again with

A girl doesn't smoke
I replied, And you are you are introducing what will make one DIE young to me because me I am a boy
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