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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by eyinjuege: 10:35pm On Feb 01, 2022
GboyegaD:
Only God knows who is speaking the truth. At this time, the family should back off as it is glaring Nigeria is irredeemable when it comes to getting justice.

But why do you think justice isn't been served in this case?
Should innocent people be punished for a crime they didn't commit? Is that justice?
Should the other boys, the school be held accountable for what they had nothing to do with?
The whole purpose of the inquest is to put all the facts and information from different sources together and arrive at a plausible conclusion to what happened to the child.
It's not to punish anybody, but to find out the truth.
His death shouldn't have happened, but why did it happen is what this inquest will tell us.
I'm sure more information will be made public. Statements from his roommates about the alleged beating would also be looked at.

abbey621:


There's no law that requires mandatory hospitalization for illnesses, it is just common sense. The fact that the physician came to see the child and was treating him for Chronic Malaria? E gbami.....Malaria really? In the eyes of the law the parents have done their part by involving the physician but not all physicians are mentally okay especially in 9ja.

So is it the fault of the Dr now? If the child had presented with malaria symptoms he will be treated as such. If he had presented with trauma symptoms he would be treated as such too.
What magic is the Dr supposed to do for a child who should have been hospitalised in the first place?
If the law were to be followed, the child's guardians are in trouble not taking him to the hospital especially if the Dr asked them to. Infact, the Dr would have called the police on them abroad.

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by manchester4lyf: 10:35pm On Feb 01, 2022
15 years family doctor saying all dis in court and even a church member ,
That's Nigeria for u ,Are we going to say a parent that can afford to take a child to a private school doesn't have money to take the child to hospital for treatment ,A family that has a family doctor for that matter
WHO BE MUMU
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by ivolt: 10:36pm On Feb 01, 2022
emezuo17:
. I am not in support of taking him to the church instead of a hospital but the bottom line is that, some one should be held responsible for the circumstances that led to The boy's condition. He was healthy before going to that school so the school authority should explain what happened to the boy that warranted going to church or hospital for help. That is the crust of the matter.
How did you know he was healthy?
Did you run a comprehensive health check on him before resumption?

It is high time we stop the evil idea of pinning every death on others without evidence.

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by dominique(f): 10:38pm On Feb 01, 2022
With all these latest developments regarding this, anyone that still holds the school responsible or calling for it's closure is nothing but a daft punk. The family withheld and twisted so much information that have painted the school so negatively that I doubt if it would ever recover.

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by michlins(m): 10:40pm On Feb 01, 2022
The parents are culpable if this testimony is admitted by the court.

They're should be expecting to do time too
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by sanpipita(m): 10:59pm On Feb 01, 2022
Sylvester's parents failed him by letting him die at home, for all their money they didn't act reasonably
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by GboyegaD(m): 11:12pm On Feb 01, 2022
eyinjuege:


But why do you think justice isn't been served in this case?
Should innocent people be punished for a crime they didn't commit? Is that justice?
Should the other boys, the school be held accountable for what they had nothing to do with?
The whole purpose of the inquest is to put all the facts and information from different sources together and arrive at a plausible conclusion to what happened to the child.
It's not to punish anybody, but to find out the truth.
His death shouldn't have happened, but why did it happen is what this inquest will tell us.
I'm sure more information will be made public. Statements from his roommates about the alleged beating would also be looked at.



So is it the fault of the Dr now? If the child had presented with malaria symptoms he will be treated as such. If he had presented with trauma symptoms he would be treated as such too.
What magic is the Dr supposed to do for a child who should have been hospitalised in the first place?
If the law were to be followed, the child's guardians are in trouble not taking him to the hospital especially if the Dr asked them to. Infact, the Dr would have called the police on them abroad.

Too many twists in the story.
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by YungMillionaire: 11:13pm On Feb 01, 2022
emezuo17:
. I am not in support of taking him to the church instead of a hospital but the bottom line is that, some one should be held responsible for the circumstances that led to The boy's condition. He was healthy before going to that school so the school authority should explain what happened to the boy that warranted going to church or hospital for help. That is the crust of the matter.

True but they should have gotten him medical attention at least there is a good chance their son would still be alive. And then they can fight the school later. No amount of court case can bring him back.
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by YungMillionaire: 11:14pm On Feb 01, 2022
SarkinYarki:

It wasn't even a church they took him to ..he was taken to a Traditional Doctor place and spent days there

Na wa o! Anyway, medical attention was what was needed not prayers by traditional doctor or pastor.

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Naijaolosho2: 11:20pm On Feb 01, 2022
They've approached the family doctor with either a huge sum of money or death threats. If it's the former,he's a betrayer and if latter,why fear death which is constant (as it is one of human characteristics)?

I think a foul play is involved somewhere.

Indeed,fear the RICH.

The law is an ass. embarassed
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by eyinjuege: 11:23pm On Feb 01, 2022
GboyegaD:


Too many twists in the story.

Its really a sad case. A young life with so much potential lost.
A major lesson I've learnt in this case is never to run with all the social media brouhaha about different issues. And that things are not always the way they appear.

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by fluffybaby(f): 11:24pm On Feb 01, 2022
All those pastors who discourage you from seeking medical help have drs that visit their homes to treat them. Don't fall for their scam. Those seminars the lie to the church that they are attending abroad, they are actually going for medical care but don't want you to know
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Lifestone(m): 11:32pm On Feb 01, 2022
AfroKnight:


At least he didn’t misspell coroner. You must be so knowledgeable.
I am sure he now knows the meaning of Coroner. We can allow rest
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by abbey621(m): 11:34pm On Feb 01, 2022
eyinjuege:


But why do you think justice isn't been served in this case?
Should innocent people be punished for a crime they didn't commit? Is that justice?
Should the other boys, the school be held accountable for what they had nothing to do with?
The whole purpose of the inquest is to put all the facts and information from different sources together and arrive at a plausible conclusion to what happened to the child.
It's not to punish anybody, but to find out the truth.
His death shouldn't have happened, but why did it happen is what this inquest will tell us.
I'm sure more information will be made public. Statements from his roommates about the alleged beating would also be looked at.



So is it the fault of the Dr now? If the child had presented with malaria symptoms he will be treated as such. If he had presented with trauma symptoms he would be treated as such too.
What magic is the Dr supposed to do for a child who should have been hospitalised in the first place?
If the law were to be followed, the child's guardians are in trouble not taking him to the hospital especially if the Dr asked them to. Infact, the Dr would have called the police on them abroad.

Can you quote the law that you speak of? A physician operates according to certain ethical codes and one of it is do no harm, what the f**k do you mean the child presented malaria symptoms? Based on what? Physician is the expert here, he should have been the one to advise hospitalization immediately. Please don't speak of abroad as if it is one magical place, I've been abroad for a decade and some years now and we have doctors making house calls all the time, it is the job of the expert to insist on emergency protocols. No law abroad would jail such a parent, I repeat no law!
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by press9ja: 11:37pm On Feb 01, 2022
God help us..

OYA CHECK MY SIGNATURE BELOW
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by nedekid: 11:39pm On Feb 01, 2022
Anieke77:
I dey look dis lawyer somehow
Because him no talk the "story" we Wan hear abi?

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by PoliteActivist: 11:44pm On Feb 01, 2022
Sonnobax15:
lipsrsealed

Make dem allow this boy innocent soul to rip abeg...And that school should forever be converted to a bet9ja shop or a brothelundecided

Rubbish undecided

Only in Naija will they still be talking about re-opening that school. It should be converted to a shrine to bullied and murdered children
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by nedekid: 11:44pm On Feb 01, 2022
Phock2sweet:
Take his body to shrine bury him with cutlass and broom. You will see justice.
Hmm, hope that cutlass and broom wount show justice on those you don't expect.
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by eyinjuege: 11:48pm On Feb 01, 2022
ivolt:

How did you know he was healthy?
Did you run a comprehensive health check on him before resumption?

It is high time we stop the evil idea of pinning every death on others without evidence.
Honestly.
Even if he was healthy on resumption, people fall ill. Students catch malaria, typhoid, whitlow etc in boarding house and even in their fathers' houses.
But I've never really understood why boarding houses always have to wait for parents to come and get their child when ill. The parents may be living in Abuja or may be on a trip abroad, and child is in Lagos. How are they supposed to get there quickly?
I think parents should be made to pay comprehensive health insurance for their wards and the schools should do like a general insurance cover for the students in good hospitals where those schools are located. Just for emergencies, especially in Naija where ambulance services are rubbish.
Once a child is ill, one of the school nurses can follow them to the hospital. The parents can meet up with them there or something
But then again, parents who are already struggling to pay school fees, na dem go wan pay yearly health insurance that their child may never need for the whole number of years he spends at the school? cry

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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by jaxxy(m): 11:53pm On Feb 01, 2022
WiszyFraud:
There are always two sides to a story



lipsrsealed

Yes bt will dowen college tell the truth on their own side like the family doctor is doing on the family’s side??

Will dowen say the truth or continue to claim football injuries and bacteria killed the boy. Will they explain the role of the students he mentioned in the own side of the story??

There are really 2 side to a story bt let’s not lie about our side of the stories also.

I would like to know the timeline of events b4 and after he left the school.
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by PoliteActivist: 11:53pm On Feb 01, 2022
Okwyjesus:


The school is innocent joor.

The school should be shut FOREVER.
LIARS!
Students said there was no football played that period AND the first autopsy and Sly's own words supported what the students said actually happened!
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Eketem: 12:09am On Feb 02, 2022
jaxxy:


Yes bt will dowen college tell the truth on their own side like the family doctor is doing on the family’s side??

Will dowen say the truth or continue to claim football injuries and bacteria killed the boy. Will they explain the role of the students he mentioned in the own side of the story??

There are really 2 side to a story bt let’s not lie about our side of the stories also.

I would like to know the timeline of events b4 and after he left the school.

The family is giving their own testimony for now. Dowen will soon give their own . The autopsy reports will also be examined. This is a process , all the answers won't come in one day
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Eketem: 12:13am On Feb 02, 2022
eyinjuege:


But why do you think justice isn't been served in this case?
Should innocent people be punished for a crime they didn't commit? Is that justice?
Should the other boys, the school be held accountable for what they had nothing to do with?
The whole purpose of the inquest is to put all the facts and information from different sources together and arrive at a plausible conclusion to what happened to the child.
It's not to punish anybody, but to find out the truth.
His death shouldn't have happened, but why did it happen is what this inquest will tell us.
I'm sure more information will be made public. Statements from his roommates about the alleged beating would also be looked at.



So is it the fault of the Dr now? If the child had presented with malaria symptoms he will be treated as such. If he had presented with trauma symptoms he would be treated as such too.
What magic is the Dr supposed to do for a child who should have been hospitalised in the first place?
If the law were to be followed, the child's guardians are in trouble not taking him to the hospital especially if the Dr asked them to. Infact, the Dr would have called the police on them abroad.



Presented malaria based on what test please? A scam was conducted on 27th and he was referred to a specialist hospital for management but this doctor without tests started treating for malaria. This doctor should have his licence revoked.
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Eketem: 12:17am On Feb 02, 2022
sisisioge:
Millions on the line...the school will not accept liability. Who should we blame? Let's blame the grieving parents! The question is....how did an healthy boy became so sick that he needed hospital gravely in your care dear school? Enlarged liver....how

All those responsible for the boy's death will know no peace!

Again this is just the Doctors testimony. The school will call it's witnesses and the autopsy report will be examined by then we will know what led to the liver damage.

It is best to wait for the review of the autopsy report if you want to know what led to the liver damage.

It is the family who requested for this Inquest. Everything about the boys death will be examined including what happened in school and shared here. Answers will not come in one hearing but hopefully the Inquest should be done by February ending. You will hopefully get your answers .
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by eyinjuege: 12:19am On Feb 02, 2022
abbey621:


Can you quote the law that you speak of? A physician operates according to certain ethical codes and one of it is do no harm, what the f**k do you mean the child presented malaria symptoms? Based on what? Physician is the expert here, he should have been the one to advise hospitalization immediately. Please don't speak of abroad as if it is one magical place, I've been abroad for a decade and some years now and we have doctors making house calls all the time, it is the job of the expert to insist on emergency protocols. No law abroad would jail such a parent, I repeat no law!

Oh please, come off it.
What emergency protocols are in place in Nigeria?
Home visits abroad are for housebound patients, usually due to chronic illnesses.
That child was assessed by a clinician, and his assessment was that of malaria. Malaria and trauma are very 2 different presentations and can't be mistaken for each other like you tried to imply . Malaria and sepsis may however present similarly.
The child didn't die the day the clinician saw him, I believe he likely worsened as the days went by. The next time they called the Dr to come, he was in a terrible state and the write up states he was referred to the hospital.
If as parent, your child's condition worsens you take them to the hospital or call an ambulance for such.
Unfortunately, the health system abroad is very different from that of Nigeria.
I don't expect a Dr to force admission on an adult patient with capacity.
However, if as a Dr abroad, a child is thought to be ill enough that you would be asked to make a house call, and the parents refuse an ambulance, I will expect you to call the police on them. I will expect you to call the safeguarding lead paediatrician in hospital who will set the ball rolling on getting that child admitted without the parent's consent.
That child will be taken into the hospital, whether the parents like it or not and they may likely not be allowed access to that child in hospital.
They may lose access to all their children actually.
Calling the police is to enforce taking the child to the hospital at that moment.
From some of the testimonies, it seems the parents don't believe in hospitals
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by nachisunday(m): 12:31am On Feb 02, 2022
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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by nachisunday(m): 12:36am On Feb 02, 2022
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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Stanchem029: 12:36am On Feb 02, 2022
nachisunday:
wait you mean SCAM?.. and am here typing on to send just 30thousand from my side hustle bis. Oh God another again, thanks for this quick report.
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Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by Eketem: 12:38am On Feb 02, 2022
eyinjuege:


Oh please, come off it.
What emergency protocols are in place in Nigeria?
Home visits abroad are for housebound patients, usually due to chronic illnesses.
That child was assessed by a clinician, and his assessment was that of malaria. Malaria and trauma are very 2 different presentations and can't be mistaken for each other like you tried to imply . Malaria and sepsis may however present similarly.
The child didn't die the day the clinician saw him, I believe he likely worsened as the days went by. The next time they called the Dr to come, he was in a terrible state and the write up states he was referred to the hospital.
If as parent, your child's condition worsens you take them to the hospital or call an ambulance for such.
Unfortunately, the health system abroad is very different from that of Nigeria.
I don't expect a Dr to force admission on an adult patient with capacity.
However, if as a Dr abroad, a child is thought to be ill enough that you would be asked to make a house call, and the parents refuse an ambulance, I will expect you to call the police on them. I will expect you to call the safeguarding lead paediatrician in hospital who will set the ball rolling on getting that child admitted without the parent's consent.
That child will be taken into the hospital, whether the parents like it or not and they may likely not be allowed access to that child in hospital.
They may lose access to all their children actually.
Calling the police is to enforce taking the child to the hospital at that moment.
From some of the testimonies, it seems the parents don't believe in hospitals

It seems you are not following the whole process of the Inquest.

So a family member testified on Friday he said thr boy was taken for a scan on the 27th and it showed an enlarged liver. The hospital where they had the scan referred him to The specialist hospital in Oghara. The doctor however countered the referral and chose to treat him for malaria.

The doctor in his Testimony also confirmed that he and the parents attend the same church and he believes in a combination of prayers and treatment.

This for me indices him, he didn't act in the best interest of the patient but allowed the relationship and church doctrine guide him.

The doctor should be responding to a medical board and defend his licence
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by abbey621(m): 12:39am On Feb 02, 2022
eyinjuege:


Oh please, come off it.
What emergency protocols are in place in Nigeria?
Home visits abroad are for housebound patients, usually due to chronic illnesses.
That child was assessed by a clinician, and his assessment was that of malaria. Malaria and trauma are very 2 different presentations and can't be mistaken for each other like you tried to imply . Malaria and sepsis may however present similarly.
The child didn't die the day the clinician saw him, I believe he likely worsened as the days went by. The next time they called the Dr to come, he was in a terrible state and the write up states he was referred to the hospital.
If as parent, your child's condition worsens you take them to the hospital or call an ambulance for such.
Unfortunately, the health system abroad is very different from that of Nigeria.
I don't expect a Dr to force admission on an adult patient with capacity.
However, if as a Dr abroad, a child is thought to be ill enough that you would be asked to make a house call, and the parents refuse an ambulance, I will expect you to call the police on them. I will expect you to call the safeguarding lead paediatrician in hospital who will set the ball rolling on getting that child admitted without the parent's consent.
That child will be taken into the hospital, whether the parents like it or not and they may likely not be allowed access to that child in hospital.
They may lose access to all their children actually.
Calling the police is to enforce taking the child to the hospital at that moment.
From some of the testimonies, it seems the parents don't believe in hospitals

Do you know for a fact that the parents refused? When they refused did the doctor make a report? You keep saying Nigerian system is different from abroad but continue to use abroad as your yardstick....... Firstly, you said doctor diagnosed malaria yet it wasn't critical enough to warrant hospitalization, you then want to blame the parent for not taking the kid to the hospital when the physician clearly did not see it as essential until it was too late(Professional quack)......... but seriously, you are right as a parent I would have driven upside down in traffic to get my child to the emergency room but from a legal perspective they did nothing wrong unless you can prove they refused professional advice of the physician.

P.S. The wealthy or semi wealthy often have private doctors who make house calls not just for bed ridden patients, I have two doctors in my extended family doing this for a living.
Re: Sylvester Oromoni Not Taken To Hospital For Treatment – Family Doctor Testifies by eyinjuege: 12:41am On Feb 02, 2022
Eketem:


Presented malaria based on what test please? A scam was conducted on 27th and he was referred to a specialist hospital for management but this doctor without tests started treating for malaria. This doctor should have his licence revoked.

There is a reason malaria medications are available over the counter in Nigeria.
You really don't need tests to start treatment for malaria in Nigeria.
This is because Nigeria is a malaria endemic region- its everywhere all the time, so yes it is very common.
In order to avoid severe malaria and to avoid inundation of the barely available health services, medications are available over the counter for it.
A market woman/ truck driver can treat malaria in Nigeria, so that's not a tenable excuse to indict the Dr.
What I can possibly hold against the Dr is if he didn't advice them if his symptoms worsen to call an ambulance / take to hospital. Or even ask parents to call him for a follow up on Syl. I don't think the parents have health insurance, the govt too doesn't pay for them either, so it's strictly pay as you go when they ask a physician to come to them. If they don't call the Dr, he won't come.

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