morpheus101:


Can you answer the question regarding the video I posted as to your stated stance of Mashaba on what it is you say he stands for?

The fool is going to reveal his Xenophobia sooner or later, just wait.

morpheus101:


You are digressing. Where have you been on this beautiful continent of ours to qualify some of your statements?

morpheus101:


Politicians are not enemies but opponents, if he has coffee with an opponent and someone reads extra into that well there you go.

Is there anywhere he stated that he will never speak to Jacob Zuma nor have tea with him. Even the Whites Malema chastises all day still invite him to speeches and engagements. What's your point?

YEBOmadiba:


Lol, u think your 'President of Africa' wants any of you not to come to SA or be deported. Get real son.

YEBOmadiba:


If u think Malema having meetings with Zuma has nothing to do with both of them planning on how to stay out of jail for corruption then you've finally proven u know nothing about SA like u claim to all day and night on this forum.

YEBOmadiba:


I know the same way u know about Tembisa, Alex and Diepsloot.

morpheus101:


Tembisa is not as bad as they make it out to be.

in fact there is a popular Chis nyama place thre I used to frequent, very good Brai. I forget the name now.

Have you been?

morpheus101:


Where is the evidence of your claim. If non there then we it is heresay.

morpheus101:


Its not what I "think" or what you assume he is "implying". It is what he continues to state and do that intelligent people rely on.

Julius continues to point at the powerful economic forces at hand that are "driving" this influx of immigrants and has chastised the Zimbabwean government for allowing a large influx of their people into S. Africa as well as state that Criminal elements in the country should be treated as such "criminals".

I have heard no advocation for mass immigration into the country in any of his rhetoric but your slow brains don't seemto understand because you are looking for a messiah like figure to come save you from these "savage" illegals.

You still haven't answered any of my questions and are trying to use what's called a "straw man" to lead us away from the question posed to you.

YEBOmadiba:


He doesnt need to "advocate for mass immigration into SA" coz it's already happened - half of Zimbabwe (and Africa ) is here and advocates against their deportation through his "there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric.

YEBOmadiba:


"there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric.

morpheus101:


What part of the above statement is incorrect?

morpheus101:

This is the nonsense that you and people like Mashaba continue to spew and the rest of your illiterate population swallow up.

Granted that there is an illegal immigration problem in SA the estimated population of Immigrants as a whole stands at about 1% of the entire population in South Africa.


of the largest number of immigrants, 3 million are an estimated Zimbabwean and compared to its 15 million population size constitutes one third and not half of Zimbabweans. The proximity being the most contributing factor to the size

Of the entire 1 billion Africans on the continent with Nigeria, Egypt and Ethiopia being the largest populations, less than .001% are in South Africa.

You my friend are spewing false narratives.

Just because you see them all curled up in Hilbrow doesn't mean they are that many.

Bantu education I tell you.

fergie001:

The business must have gone sour over the years

Zondo will get it!

YEBOmadiba:
Just in - Mpumalanga in the lead

fergie001:

Rama should overturn it.

YEBOmadiba:
I think I can stomach her appointment. Your faves are retiring soon and the one man left has rumours of sexual assault bedeviling him. I think she's the only one offering hope - I saw a snippet of her address regarding women's rights (didn't watch anything on her before then) and she kinda did it for me.

fergie001:

Why should she not vie in 3 years time?

This sentiment coming to an interview and crying doesn't work or move me.

I know the age issue is why they are considering her but she isn't a member of the ConCourt and might bring in a legal quagmire even though it is Constitutionally permissible.

Bringing someone from the SCA to head those who have been in the ConCourt is somehow, well they know best but they are setting a precedent that might bring up some problems later.

In Nigeria, you can't be Chief Justice if you are not in the Supreme Court (our own version of ConCourt). The next in line wrt seniority will normally walk into it.

YEBOmadiba:
That makes sense but sometimes the aspirants within the Concourt might be compromised and not worthy of the promotion. I see how bringing in an outsider could be unpalatable. U make valid points - honestly I havent been invested in this whole process.

Let's see what Rama says - I'm surprised the commission came to a decision so quickly - less than 24 hours.

YEBOmadiba:


Bantu education is saying 3 million Zimbabweans in a population of 60 million people in SA amounts to 1% of the population ? Nigerian inferior literacy rates at work!

fergie001:
yebomadiba

morpheus101:


I correct my stats- "The immigrant population in South Africa stands at 4% of the population of South Africa.

Now even with the "correction" in those stats and given the population of Africans as a percentage of the entire population of Africa the premise put fore-ward does not falter.

How is it that the whole of Africa is in your country?

See below and Listen carefully to your future xenophobic camouflage wearing leader who is dressed up for battle but can't go into drug dens to battle those there and juxtapose it to a more level headed intellectual who articulates the foreign national and informal sector issue brilliantly with action behind it.

YEBOmadiba:


If JSC has no power to recommend then what was the use of the interviews

fergie001:

Usually, they will screen and submit their recommendations to the President who can pick any of the four. Rama still reserves the rights to pick any of the four. The SA Constitution does not compel the President to pick the JSC's preferred nominee...once the four have been screened in, he is at liberty to pick any. Remember Dikgang & that mad man Mogoeng.

In Nigeria usually, the NJC (our own version of JSC) will submit the most senior to the President leaving him no choice. However, conventionally, the two most senior is submitted to him then he can pick any of his choosing.

Their screening and recommendations are usually secret.

YEBOmadiba:
Yes, the key word being "recommendations". So why is Thuli saying the JSC has no right to recommend when they're the ones who conducted the interviews.

Yes, we get it the President is the ultimate decision maker but if the JSC can't guide him then what's the purpose of their involvement?

fergie001:

It's just like half a dozen and six.
The part he is stressing is that, it shouldn't have been public. Any recommendation(s) should have been under wraps.

Usually, they will submit all four names with their respective scores, strengths and weaknesses. That should have been the pattern, because now they are democratically setting up the President.

If he doesn't pander to Maya, he becomes an enemy to many. Well, that's to him but here, before the interviews the President already has his own 'man'.

Even if you place him last with zeros all through, the President will appoint him.

fergie001:
yebomadiba

YEBOmadiba:


4% or almost 8%?

YEBOmadiba:

What's the percentage of whites in SA and their influence? And then tell me again that South Africans need not worry about such a large population of foreign nationals similar to that of the white.

morpheus101:


South Africa does not have over 5 million illegal immigrants living in their country. It does have an influx of immigrants mostly from the southern hemisphere of which that would be logical seeing that is the most vibrant economic hub in that area.

If you are successful in removing half of that population from your country you will still have the same percentage of joblessness irregardless because on the supply side of the economic model you are not growing.

^{[/sup] gibberish [sup]}


Last time I checked the white population stood at about 5 million and the colored population at the same rate mostly concentrated in the Western cape.

^{[/sup] what's the percentage of 5 mil to 60 million - Einstein? Is it not around 8% like I said? [sup]}

Ahh I see you are afraid these immigrants will outwit you economically as the whites did yet you outnumber them 10 to 1.

^{[/sup] how can people from failed states who work for slave wages outwit us? The point is that it's a substantial number of people. [sup]}

If that is not Xenophobia at its finest and don't knwo what is
^{[/sup] flawed formula towards reaching this conclusion [sup]}

YEBOmadiba:
gibberish. how can people from failed states who work for slave wages outwit us? undecided The point is that it's a substantial number of people

YEBOmadiba:
what's the percentage of 5 mil to 60 million - Einstein? undecided Is it not around 8% like I said?

YEBOmadiba:
I get you . But then it shouldn't have been televised coz that sets up public expectations.