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Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by OBALOLA55(m): 6:37pm On Feb 15, 2022
okwusdaddy:

So the Catholic Church has been baptizing people wrongly for over 2000 years and yet people are still flocking to the Church in thier billion and you are the one to correct them as a bible scholar that you are.I wish you the best.
VERY CORRECT SIRE
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by jamace(m): 6:42pm On Feb 15, 2022
That is to say, the priest has not been reading his Catholic doctrinal books. Then which books has he been reading?.. Na wa o.. shocked shocked

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Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by ArewaNorth: 6:43pm On Feb 15, 2022
12rev:

Quit stroking your ego on some false hope. You want to compare christianity and islam in terms of violence? You must be joking.

Those who imposed the religion on u authored the article. Check the source!
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by jnrbayano(m): 6:56pm On Feb 15, 2022
ogascomax:
As if Catholic Church baptism is valid before. Any baptism that is not done by immersion is invalid.

Didn't stop with your immersion assertion, the baptism must also be done in Jordan, and by your cousin. Furthermore, you must be 33years of age

Isn't it?

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Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by OLULAW: 7:05pm On Feb 15, 2022
Legalities rather than spirituality. One of the reasons Dietrich Bonhoeffer called for religionless Christianity. I understand the Roman Catholic theological underpining of using 'I' instead of 'we', but is it really necessary? What about those who have passed away? Biblically, Jesus said "Go ye into all the nations, baptising them in the bame if the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you." I know the RCC emphasizes, doctrine, scriptures and traditions, and these are ascribed equal status. Nonetheless, it's nonsensical to declare these baptisms invalid.

I write as an agnostic, with deep insights into systematics and philosophical theology.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Nobody: 7:12pm On Feb 15, 2022
ArewaNorth:


Those who imposed the religion on u authored the article. Check the source!
Sorry you seem to mix things up, only islam was spread by "jihad".
Anyway since you want one have it....The old testament where you get your "christianity is violent" from is judaism not christianity.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Nobody: 7:17pm On Feb 15, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Here, to help you better comprehend Paul's statement that you all love to quote without real understanding of the message....
undecided

Paul attempts a comparison between the Old Covenant Law which was written and given to the people of Israel by Moses- God wrote parts of it on stone - to the New Covenant Law , Jesus Christ , which is said to be written on the hearts of those who belong to Jesus Christ. undecided
Can you give a practical example with this?

It is not an agreement of written laws, but it is of the Spirit

What makes the new convenant law different from the old btw?
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by ArewaNorth: 7:38pm On Feb 15, 2022
12rev:

Sorry you seem to mix things up, only islam was spread by "jihad".
Anyway since you want one have it....The old testament where you get your "christianity is violent" from is judaism not christianity.

Remember crusaders?

Largest religious violence in the history of earth.

It seems u are just a Christian by identity like many others but not a knowledgeable Christian!
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by NamelessOGBENI(m): 7:48pm On Feb 15, 2022
Another comic relief..

What a way to unwind.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Nobody: 8:00pm On Feb 15, 2022
ArewaNorth:


Remember crusaders?

Largest religious violence in the history of earth.

It seems u are just a Christian by identity like many others but not a knowledgeable Christian!
Yea you can mention hitler and joseph stalin as well, they were just as violent as your prophet, unlike Jesus Christ whom christianity is modelled after.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Elidrisy20: 8:10pm On Feb 15, 2022
Okay wetin be the right word?
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Chinny024(f): 8:17pm On Feb 15, 2022
I am that only Nairaland Catholic,Staunch one.. I stand by my faith....In the name of the father,Son,and holy spirit...No gate of hell shall prevail on the solid rock,Peter...
Catholic yesterday, today,and forever!!!



NB: Unnecessary quotes shall be ignored as usual..

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Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by IbileIfe: 8:26pm On Feb 15, 2022
We baptize you is in order of In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The Roman Catholic Church has no right to invalidate what has already been done in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

This matter is closed.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by McBishop2020: 8:39pm On Feb 15, 2022
He didn't resign as a Catholic Church priest. He is simply doing penance.

Read the article properly.

Meanwhile, a lot of things can render baptism invalid. One of which is the use of holy water,.

Remember, once a priest of the church, always a priest of the church- resignation or not.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by HoceeFlashfoto: 8:40pm On Feb 15, 2022
Gullah:

You are just putting the cart before the horse. Who ordained baptism? Was it Christ or the catholic church? Every church has their own way of doing it which is different and so long as they follow the scriptural instructions, they are valid. It doesn't matter what anyone says. Are you telling me that if I am baptised in a church according to scriptural instructions then I relocate to another place and maybe the new church I attend do it differently then I have to be baptized again? The story didn't say the baptism wasn't done according to the scriptures, it says the priests didn't say I instead of we. That's not a disqualifier in the eyes of God, the Bible didn't say anywhere that you must say we instead of I. God has recognized that baptism and it is valid whether the human denomination accepts it or not. The recipient of such baptism don't have to do another one. The only thing that can render a baptism illegal is if it wasn't done according to the scriptures.
The bible said. (I)
Catholics don't do anything outside the faith of the bible.

John answered them all, saying, ‘I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, the strap of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.’” — Luke 3:16
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by HoceeFlashfoto: 8:42pm On Feb 15, 2022
Luke 3:16
Have answer it all.
John answered them all, saying, ‘I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, the strap of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.’” — Luke 3:16

I'm proud to be a Catholic.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by HoceeFlashfoto: 8:44pm On Feb 15, 2022
OBALOLA55:
VERY CORRECT SIRE

Not Catholics
Read to understand.
It was the priest
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Munzy14(m): 8:50pm On Feb 15, 2022
Kobojunkie:
This Catholic cult is insane!
ROFLMAO
grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy wink
Catholic cult?

Smh..

Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:04pm On Feb 15, 2022
OLULAW:
Legalities rather than spirituality. One of the reasons Dietrich Bonhoeffer called for religionless Christianity. I understand the Roman Catholic theological underpining of using 'I' instead of 'we', but is it really necessary? What about those who have passed away? Biblically, Jesus said "Go ye into all the nations, baptising them in the bame if the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you." I know the RCC emphasizes, doctrine, scriptures and traditions, and these are ascribed equal status. Nonetheless, it's nonsensical to declare these baptisms invalid.

I write as an agnostic, with deep insights into systematics and philosophical theology.
The problem is whether the Catholic church declares them invalid or not, Jesus Christ decreed that all worship, rituals included, carried out according to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) are void and hence meaningless - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:05pm On Feb 15, 2022
Munzy14:
Catholic cult?
Smh..
Yes, Catholism is a cult. undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:06pm On Feb 15, 2022
HoceeFlashfoto:
Luke 3:16
Have answer it all.
John answered them all, saying, ‘I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, the strap of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.’” — Luke 3:16

I'm proud to be a Catholic.
You mean to say that the priest was supposed to repeat all of John's statement above? shocked
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:10pm On Feb 15, 2022
McBishop2020:
He didn't resign as a Catholic Church priest. He is simply doing penance.

Read the article properly.

Meanwhile, a lot of things can render baptism invalid. One of which is the use of holy water,.

Remember, once a priest of the church, always a priest of the church- resignation or not.
But there is no such a thing as "Holy water", and according to Jesus Christ, the only thing that can render our worship (including baptisms) null and void is if done according to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) - which He declared all lies - rather than according to the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself. - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:12pm On Feb 15, 2022
IbileIfe:
We baptize you is in order of In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The Roman Catholic Church has no right to invalidate what has already been done in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

This matter is closed.
The priest in question is submitted to the catholic church doctrines and traditions - instead of to Jesus Christ - you cannot serve two masters in the Kingdom of God. So that alone gives the catholic church, his master, authority over him and all he carries out under their flag. undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by HoceeFlashfoto: 9:17pm On Feb 15, 2022
Kobojunkie:
You mean to say that the priest was supposed to repeat all of John's statement above? shocked


As a priests, when you're doing the ordeal of christ...
You're more like a christ then because christ is three person in one God.
So that (I) means one God in three person... I'm referring to word I Instead of we.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Basiliun: 9:20pm On Feb 15, 2022
I think the scripture should be s model and blueprint for christian"s practices, bu, wondering why they could not make any scriptural refference in their corrective measures
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:20pm On Feb 15, 2022
12rev:
Can you give a practical example with this?

It is not an agreement of written laws, but it is of the Spirit

What makes the new convenant law different from the old btw?
There are numerous differences between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. However, if you paid attention to the entire context, you find that what Paul seemed to stress is that the Old Covenant was written on tablets, and scrolls, for the people of Old and they were taught from person to person- God literally gave the task of teaching His Old Law to every israelite in the land. undecided

While where it has to do with with the New Covenant, Jesus Christ, Paul stated that the details of the Law are etched in the hearts of those who belong to Jesus Christ - they are all born of Spirit and so have eternal life according to John 3 vs 5 - 8 & Ezekiel 36 vs 26 - 27. and are taught by Him and Him alone undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:26pm On Feb 15, 2022
HoceeFlashfoto:

As a priests, when you're doing the ordeal of christ...
You're more like a christ then because christ is three person in one God.
So that (I) means one God in three person... I'm referring to word I Instead of we.
Ordeal of Christ? More like Christ? But Jesus Christ never did baptize anyone while He was here on earth, so what is the meaning of becoming like Christ in this ordeal of Christ you speak of? undecided

Also, according to Jesus Christ,the only way to become like Him is in fact to trust and obey His commandments and He clearly warned those who love Him to never submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) so nothing of your statement even here adds up to what scripture says of Baptisms. undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Munzy14(m): 9:53pm On Feb 15, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Yes, Catholism is a cult. undecided
That's your problem...It equally explained your personality the more. lipsrsealed
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:54pm On Feb 15, 2022
Munzy14:

That's your problem...It equally explained your personality the more. lipsrsealed
Your response makes no sense! undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by oluwaahmed: 9:54pm On Feb 15, 2022
November24:


Which Pope... Guy relax abeg...i read scriptures not Bible, Jesus read the scriptures, was it your Antichrist Pope that wrote it? Which Bible did Paul read? Or Peter? Or Abraham?

They did better than my generation without this compilation
Except you are reading from the same scroll Jesus read from, or from the abridged versions of the scroll which all Jews posses(even the Ethiopian & igbo Jews have this Torah) you are only reading a selected collection of scrolls compiled by the Catholic Church, hence you have no point insulting the Catholic Church because you are all in the same shepple boat.
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Kobojunkie: 9:56pm On Feb 15, 2022
oluwaahmed:

Except you are reading from the same scroll Jesus read from, or from the abridged versions of the scroll which all Jews posses(even the Ethiopian & igbo Jews have this Torah) you are only reading a selected collection of scrolls compiled by the Catholic Church, hence you have no point insulting the Catholic Church because you are all in the same shepple boat.
So what if the Bible scripts where processed by the Catholic church, that doesn't change the fact that the church does not itself abide by it. undecided

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who Obey His Commandments. Despite the Catholic church working scripture available to all, the establishment refuses to adhere to the teachings and Commandments of Jesus Christ . I on the other hand do, so how does that make me a Catholic or put me in the same boat as the Catholic organization? undecided
Re: Father Andres Arango Resigns After 25 Years Over Invalid Baptism - Pictures by Munzy14(m): 9:58pm On Feb 15, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Your response makes no sense! undecided
K

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