OAra:
To put it bluntly, Putin is operating on borrowed time.

The modernization of the Russian military has happened by taking huge loans via 2 semi-governmental institutions (Vnesheconombank, which acts as an independent development bank and Promsvyazban, which services around 70% of Russia's military defence contracts), thus not weighting on the limited state's budget. Now these 2 entities will be completely frozen out of Western camarketss.

The mix of Western sanctions includes financial sanctions (currently targeting over 80% of the Russian banking sector), export control actions (for example Western companies are barred from selling modern tech, semiconductors etc to Russia and its allies) and personal sanctions (Putin's close allies and their families, the Duma's members etc).

Today, first day of the crisis, the Russian market opened up at -30% and the central bank had to massively intervene to avoid a collapse of the ruble (which is underway anyway, reaching 89.60 rubles to 1$), with further interventions likely to be required.

To sum it up, Russia's economy will be heavily hit by the sanctions, its people (already suffering from a weak economy) will suffer even more, and with its main military revenue sources blocked, it is highly unlikely Russia will be able to maintain a military edge for long, with some even calling this the Kremlin's swan song (I do not believe this for a second, but it's true that they will be severely weakened).

Putin is acting on borrowed time. He knows it, the West knows it, and he knows that his enemies know it.

In the medium-long term this little war will have costed Russia x10, x100 times more than what they gained.

Sanctions might not make for big news, but they have the power to throw a country in terminal economic decline. Enjoy your famine, Russians.

shut up.

franugo:


Some of you throw out your opinions as facts. Where did you get this info from? Gimme a source.

India has the largest military personnel but US is the strongest in the world.

Google is yiur friend check and confirm

Everything You said Made sense apart from the clause "Sanctions Has No Power". Sanctions is more powerful than military intervention.

engrsyer:
No shaking. Russia has done all his risk analysis before embarking on this war. He knows NATO allies has nukes as well and he has warned them of immediate reprisal if any country misbahaves. Sanctions has no power. Russia also has allies even if it is not up to NATO/West. So Paris should keep quiet and watch the movie. By sunday Zelensky would surrender.

Awesometouch1:

Hehehe, it seems to be the only nation that has "Great" attached to its name, and that for reason.

It was a name the British Island savages gave themselves. They are not great.

We just have to understand that anything that makes NATO join the war, we are going to experience the real chilling with the big boys, we go run kiri kiti run kata kata no go fit drink water drop cup. As in hell on earth. God a beg!


Know this and
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franchasng:
Stop believing nonsense military propagandas peddled by people trying to antagonize US.


Russia is no match to the US alone talk more of NATO. What Putin is doing is to use scare words to intimidate this present set of NATO nation leaders into abandoning Ukraine for him to bully as he pleases. Russia is scared of NATO, if not why is Putin scared of Ukraine joining NATO? If Putin truly believes NATO is a pushover then he should allow Ukraine join NATO first and then he can invade and use that opportunity to deal with NATO since he has IQBCKSLS pointed at every nation of the world, nonsense talk.



To let you know that Putin is scared of US or NATO stopping him from bullying Ukraine, before this invasion, he went to China to meet with China's President Xi Jinping in an effort to get a backup ally should things go south for him.



Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and all those communist like nations fear US because they know US controls the world and even their own nation's economy.


Russian military and tech companies depend on semiconductors from the US. Most of them use US patent technologies to survive yet you guys believe Russia is this or that.



Vladimir Putin is on Instagram and I guess Twitter. Russian government officials also use Twitter and majority of Russians depend on US tech platforms for social and other purposes. And these are all American technologies.


When Trump banned Android from selling their technology to China, Chinese mobile phone makers almost crashed.



Most of you overrate Russia and underrate the great America just because you hate America maybe because of religion.



No country on earth can challenge US, the only problem with US right now is poor leadership

China can challenge the US.

Unlike Russia, China has the most resilient economy in the world and the technological know-how.

Their economy is linked to every other global economy so you can't sanction them too much without harming yourself.

China is the real threat, not Russia.

NigeriaZoo:


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-says-putin-needs-understand-nato-has-nuclear-weapons-2022-02-24/

I have no iota of sympathy for the Ukrainian government. America would have done the same, just imagine Benin republic being used by South Africa, Egypt, Liberia morocco, and co for weaponry purposes against nigeria.

nervorum:
Pure trash!

90% of nukes are shared btw the toothless US and Russia, with the latter having abt 6000,and the former about 5500.

The EU is weak. Their selfishness would restrain a coordinated, swift and impactful response, and therein is their downfall. They had the resources to stop this, they refused to deploy.

The present US govt has failed to show courage, not necessarily militarily. 45 was an unstable character, but he showed courage, he barks and bites. 46 is as toothless as the EU. Too much talking!

History is being written before our own eyes. The balance of power may chg after this.

Ukraine and the Baltic states would likely pay a hefty price.

This crisis was avoidable. Support Ukraine to be neutral, in exchange for western style democracy. That way Putin's fear is allayed. Use economic tools to Partner Russia against China. Russia has since stopped being the problem of the West, its China and N. Korea.

First it was pestilence, now the sword is looming.

The strategic failure of American politics is allowing China and Russia to unite.

That was an amateurish mistake that the likes of Henry Kissinger would never have made.

China is the real threat, as far as western civilisation is concerned.

Their cities are world class, their prosperity is world class, their education is world class, and their technology is world class, and their exports, supply chain and manufacturing is peerless and cutting across every sector.

A true superpower in the making that Russia will never be.

Seriously, I am smarter than most of these politicians and diplomats.

Ukraine is gone forever ! In some few hours from now,reality will dawn on the West and NATO. As for all these ineffective sanctions and threats of more sanctions,Putin does not give a penny about it ! I have a feeling that the strong man of Russia has already packaged some lethal cyber weapons to deal with the west big corporate organizations/companies as a response to these sanctions. NATO member countries,especially the U S should better brace up for a serious cyber attacks !

engrsyer:
No shaking. Russia has done all his risk analysis before embarking on this war. He knows NATO allies has nukes as well and he has warned them of immediate reprisal if any country misbahaves. Sanctions has no power. Russia also has allies even if it is not up to NATO/West. So Paris should keep quiet and watch the movie. By sunday Zelensky would surrender.

Tbh, you just said my mind lol.
I see Ukraine giving in soonest! Russia is too sophisticated for Ukraine.

A foremost European leader said maintaining the superiority of his country can only be attained by having better relationship with its enemies than its enemies have with each other.

America should have better relationship with both China and Russia than China and Russia have with each other.

That is the only way to maintain a strategic edge.

Unfortunately they have bundled it.

mumumugu:
is not Ukraine vs Russia. This is Ukraine vs Ukraine sessionist which Russia support.


It is like Nigeria vs Biafra but England supporting Biafra.

Let us not hype this into third world war

Them fire bomb inside Ukraine capital Kiev and you are still calling Sessionist??
This is pure Ukraine vs Russian war. There is nothing like Sessionist here.

stinflame:
[[s]quote author=franchasng post=110524807]I have said this countless times.


NATO will destroy Russia in few days should war escalate but the problem is leadership. Current leaders of NATO member nations are cowards, they lack the willpower and courage to use their strength and might. Even to disconnect Russia from SWIFT they cant summon the courage to do it and cripple Russian economy immediately.


If Vladimir Putin was a US President right now, Russia will be retreating in hours.


Its not as if Russia is that strong, yes they have military might but they are almost a poor country, but they have a strong man as President who understands the law of power and how to lead a war. He talks tough thereby making opponents to see Russia as the greatest giant. Vladimir Putin is the strongest President on earth right now but Russia is never the strongest nation.



Some people are rich but don't command the respect, thats the case of US now under Pa Joe Biden. US have gradually become a toothless bulldog under Democratic leadership, what a shame.



Just make Vladimir Putin the President of US and Joe Biden the President of Russia and watch Russians pissing in their pants with fear.




In as much as I condemn Russian invasion of Ukraine, I must admit that I admire Putin's courage and guts, its unparalleled [/s]

You call it Coward, but you fail to understand the World most especially the European countries have passed the stage where the immediate Show of strength is there immediate reaction.
They know the power of War,they will never make the first move when it comes to war in this current dispensation and time. For you to know, currently the European countries are just like Big Brothers and that shouldn't be mistaken for weakens.
Russia should face all penalties the US are imposing on them , if putin is wise enough he will safe Russia Economy by pulling out.
And there is no Single Leadership problem With NATO, the only thing I see here is mature minds who are not ready to hit back fire for fire. But by through vital sanctions.

So why are the sanctions not yet vital and coming heavy, and why treat Putin with kid's gloves.

The reason is cos they are cowards. They know what to do, they don't want to do it for their selfish individual interest. Their US big brother is weak, so EU is able to get away with its cowardice, and risk plunging us all into another nasty global crisis.

franchasng:
Stop believing nonsense military propagandas peddled by people trying to antagonize US.


Russia is no match to the US alone talk more of NATO. What Putin is doing is to use scare words to intimidate this present set of NATO nation leaders into abandoning Ukraine for him to bully as he pleases. Russia is scared of NATO, if not why is Putin scared of Ukraine joining NATO? If Putin truly believes NATO is a pushover then he should allow Ukraine join NATO first and then he can invade and use that opportunity to deal with NATO since he has IQBCKSLS pointed at every nation of the world, nonsense talk.



To let you know that Putin is scared of US or NATO stopping him from bullying Ukraine, before this invasion, he went to China to meet with China's President Xi Jinping in an effort to get a backup ally should things go south for him.



Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and all those communist like nations fear US because they know US controls the world and even their own nation's economy.


Russian military and tech companies depend on semiconductors from the US. Most of them use US patent technologies to survive yet you guys believe Russia is this or that.



Vladimir Putin is on Instagram and I guess Twitter. Russian government officials also use Twitter and majority of Russians depend on US tech platforms for social and other purposes. And these are all American technologies.


When Trump banned Android from selling their technology to China, Chinese mobile phone makers almost crashed.



Most of you overrate Russia and underrate the great America just because you hate America maybe because of religion.



No country on earth can challenge US, the only problem with US right now is poor leadership

Yinmu As always in as much as I don’t like bloodshed , but guy America is scared Including NATO. If Russia is not a Super power forget this lies they’re blabbing that it’s because Ukraine is not member that’s why they can’t strike .
NATO would have defied international law and NATO principles to massage their EGO.

Ukraine is the second biggest European country yet it’s been decimated In less than 48 hours .
Eastern Europe will be conquered by Russia in a matter of days if Russia wants to go all out .

America, France , Uk can’t risk a War right now not because of world peace but the fact that they want to remain superpowers . Going to War will expose them . China and Russia are eager for war. NATO will be praying China don’t invade Taiwan, That’ll be a must fight for them

For the sake of integrity.but I doubt if they’ll fight only sanctions can be meted out nothing more nothing less . Just as NATO shy away from Ukraine that’s how some NATO members will refuse to support a full-scale blown war with Russia or China .
At the end it’s only America, Israel , Uk, France that will fight . The rest are not reliable.

engrsyer:
No shaking. Russia has done all his risk analysis before embarking on this war. He knows NATO allies has nukes as well and he has warned them of immediate reprisal if any country misbahaves. Sanctions has no power. Russia also has allies even if it is not up to NATO/West. So Paris should keep quiet and watch the movie. By sunday Zelensky would surrender.

Yeah, just a little spanking to a stubborn child. He will realise his mistakes in couple of days

engrsyer:
No shaking. Russia has done all his risk analysis before embarking on this war. He knows NATO allies has nukes as well and he has warned them of immediate reprisal if any country misbahaves. Sanctions has no power. Russia also has allies even if it is not up to NATO/West. So Paris should keep quiet and watch the movie. By sunday Zelensky would surrender.

"Sanctions have no power"



You know nothing boy.

anonymous1759:



Yinmu As always in as much as I don’t like bloodshed , but guy America is scared Including NATO. If Russia is not a Super power forget this lies they’re blabbing that it’s because Ukraine is not member that’s why they can’t strike .
NATO would have defied international law and NATO principles to massage their EGO.

Ukraine is the second biggest European country yet it’s been decimated In less than 48 hours .
Eastern Europe will be conquered by Russia in a matter of days if Russia wants to go all out .

America, France , Uk can’t risk a War right now not because of world peace but the fact that they want to remain superpowers . Going to War will expose them . China and Russia are eager for war. NATO will be praying China don’t invade Taiwan, That’ll be a must fight for them

For the sake of integrity.but I doubt if they’ll fight only sanctions can be meted out nothing more nothing less . Just as NATO shy away from Ukraine that’s how some NATO members will refuse to support a full-scale blown war with Russia or China .
At the end it’s only America, Israel , Uk, France that will fight . The rest are not reliable.

Unfortunately, I agree with you mostly. The US may join the fray if Putin crosses out of Ukraine. That's where it becomes irreversible.

blackpanda:
Where will this end?

Putin knows this already. He's calculating that even if Ukraine doesn't fall, he will succeed in annexing two more regions of ukraine

Onuku ! You mean the region he has openly accepted as an independent nations ?

Linesman:
One day Biafra will be Freed.

Amen to that

TOPCRUISE:
That's a threat that Russia will not take lightly.
Russia never trusted NATO because of this foolish statement France made and that is one of the reason they feared Ukraine joining NATO.

What Russia is doing is only giving Ukraine more reasons to join NATO.

OAra:
To put it bluntly, Putin is operating on borrowed time.

The modernization of the Russian military has happened by taking huge loans via 2 semi-governmental institutions (Vnesheconombank, which acts as an independent development bank and Promsvyazban, which services around 70% of Russia's military defence contracts), thus not weighting on the limited state's budget. Now these 2 entities will be completely frozen out of Western capital markets.

The mix of Western sanctions includes financial sanctions (currently targeting over 80% of the Russian banking sector), export control actions (for example Western companies are barred from selling modern tech, semiconductors etc to Russia and its allies) and personal sanctions (Putin's close allies and their families, the Duma's members etc).

Today, first day of the crisis, the Russian market opened up at -30% and the central bank had to massively intervene to avoid a collapse of the ruble (which is underway anyway, reaching 89.60 rubles to 1$), with further interventions likely to be required.

To sum it up, Russia's economy will be heavily hit by the sanctions, its people (already suffering from a weak economy) will suffer even more, and with its main military revenue sources blocked, it is highly unlikely Russia will be able to maintain a military edge for long, with some even calling this the Kremlin's swan song (I do not believe this for a second, but it's true that they will be severely weakened).

Putin is acting on borrowed time. He knows it, the West knows it, and he knows that his enemies know it.

In the medium-long term this little war will have costed Russia x10, x100 times more than what they gained.

Sanctions might not make for big news, but they have the power to throw a country in terminal economic decline. Enjoy your famine, Russians.

But doggonedogg said sanctions don't work.

Anyway you at right

nervorum:


So why are the sanctions not yet vital and coming heavy, and why treat Putin with kid's gloves.

The reason is cos they are cowards. They know what to do, they don't want to do it for their selfish individual interest. Their US big brother is weak, so EU is able to get away with its cowardice, and risk plunging us all into another nasty global crisis.

Watch & See, Effects of sanctions comes gradually, and when a country begins to feel it is when it is at the breaking point and massive sufferers.

Use your nuclear weapons to reset Putin's brain

blackpanda:
Where will this end?

Putin knows this already. He's calculating that even if Ukraine doesn't fall, he will succeed in annexing two more regions of ukraine

Cremia has been annexed.

Donbass, Lughansk, Kiev and entire Ukraine will soon annexed. If he succeeds. Luthannia, Belarus, Poland, Slovenia, Georgia, Moldova, Romania, all the neighbouring countries will soon be annexed. Putin's ultimate goal is to bring back the old powerful U.S.S.R into existence

Awesometouch1:

What does Russia have That Britain doesn't have a better one? Russia doesn't even have the resources to prosecute a war long enough to win.
Kindly find out about the size of the Russian economy in comparison to their mates.
Which war have they fought and made any progress without Britain coming to their aid from 1700 to 1945?
I repeat, which large scale war has Russia ever fought without British weapons?

Even in this recent years, do you know how much Britain has been daring Russia and do you think they are doing it for nothing?
Russia will definitely lose a sea war with Britain(they don't have what it takes to stand Britain on the sea), they can't win in the air or land. So which one can they win? Maybe spiritual war or witchcraft
Even just yesterday Britain placed direct military conflict with Russia over Ukraine on the table.
The only country to do that.
Are you kidding me?

I don't need to read your long unnecessary epistle.
What does Russia has that Britain doesn't?
Russia has more fire power than Britain, by far!
Russia produces their military hardware and doesn't depend on importation.
Russia has the natural resources to make far more if need be.
Russia has better, war studded soldiers to take super powers head on not running to their allies like Britain.

I seriously don't want to delve into this unnecessary argument as even you is aware that Britain will don't be dumb enough to take a mad country like Russia head on.
Russia has many countries that can take them head on but Britain is clearly not one of them.

franchasng:
I have said this countless times.


NATO will destroy Russia in few days should war escalate but the problem is leadership. Current leaders of NATO member nations are cowards, they lack the willpower and courage to use their strength and might. Even to disconnect Russia from SWIFT they cant summon the courage to do it and cripple Russian economy immediately.


If Vladimir Putin was a US President right now, Russia will be retreating in hours.


Its not as if Russia is that strong, yes they have military might but they are almost a poor country, but they have a strong man as President who understands the law of power and how to lead a war. He talks tough thereby making opponents to see Russia as the greatest giant. Vladimir Putin is the strongest President on earth right now but Russia is never the strongest nation.



Some people are rich but don't command the respect, thats the case of US now under Pa Joe Biden. US have gradually become a toothless bulldog under Democratic leadership, what a shame.



Just make Vladimir Putin the President of US and Joe Biden the President of Russia and watch Russians pissing in their pants with fear.




In as much as I condemn Russian invasion of Ukraine, I must admit that I admire Putin's courage and guts, its unparalleled

Aboki concentrate on your fura business and stop meddling on matters you clearly do not understand. How many times has un sanctioned America for all there blatant disregard for sovereignty integrity ?

blueAgent:


The same Russia that German flogged in World War 2?

Lol
Germany did flog everyone in the second world war and it took alliances to defeat them.

I stand by my point, Russia is capable of taking anyone head on today in military warfare.
The world leaders are wiser than you and decided not to start head on confrontation with them.

Russia can be defeated easily but not in military confrontations.

Awesometouch1:

Yes, you make much sense but Putin is only doing this because he is sure NATO won't intervene directly. NATO has said it repeatedly over couple of weeks they won't send soldiers to defend Ukraine.
Russia had been using one foot at a time to test the waters before taking their next step each time. They also know the boundaries NATO has set as red-line and won't cross it.
However, if Ukraine decides to fight it out, Russia will lose eventually, going by the world's definition of defeat. Ukraine has the man power. They just lack the tools, resources, and maybe, training.

Do you know what?, had the US suddenly risen to defend Ukraine before now there wouldn't have been any invasion. Russia would've still saved face since they've been claiming they were not out for invasion and that the West was only imagining it.

Furthermore, if NATO decides now to push Russia out of Ukraine Russia will freak out and will more than welcome negotiations.

My brother, nobody wants a nuclear war. If Russia wasn't nuclear powered, Britain would've been the first country to declare war on Russia immediately they invaded Ukraine just like the way they declared war on Germany the instant they invaded Poland.

It was not by chance you and I speak English today. Great Britain has reigned supreme on the face of this earth for centuries and in fact were even instrumental in the creation of a German state. Britain has had such tremendous influence on the rest of Europe that will surprise you. Before I used to think all European countries were equal but I was wrong. Britain is a Master in Europe.

Right now, Britain is the only country I've heard make mention of an eventual direct military conflict with Russia over Ukraine. That's the kind of bloody fighters they are. According to those that know, they are the only country that has successfully beaten Russia to the point of surrendering after invading them.

Forget that they are smaller, the British are the ones with the real chest for war. America shy away from war by all means unless they are pushed to the wall like the 9/11 and Pearlharbour.

Had Russia been responsible for a thing like 9/11, America would've descended on them with their whole might irrespective of any noise from Putin.

Cc.Astoria I saw a comment you made claiming that Britain cannot match Russia because of their landmass hence the mention

mumumugu:
is not Ukraine vs Russia. This is Ukraine vs Ukraine sessionist which Russia support.


It is like Nigeria vs Biafra but England supporting Biafra.

Let us not hype this into third world war

England never supported biafra though

they will game contests within Russia, just monitor how Russia folks will betweens against putin

[quote author=nervorum post=110528289]

Unfortunately, I agree with you mostly. The US may join the fray if Putin crosses out of Ukraine. That's where it becomes irreversible. [/quote


America knows UK knows , including France that their the targets. Russia and China are ready like I said . The body language is revealing .
America, UK and France needs to go toe to toe with Russia or China to redeem their image . Countries who look up to them are watching if they don’t show strength their power is gone. There’s time for everything. At this point is Strength not diplomacy.

ObamaMessi:
Guy you cracked me up.What do you want to verify?

I go tell u after dem drop ham