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| Proof Allah Not God by Femiwilli: 6:15pm On Feb 23, 2022 |
Many people dont accept that allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob God never said He is the God of Ishmael the forefather of mohammed Exodus 3:6 I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob This man explains it further that allah is NOT God. He highlights something most moslems miss. Moahmmed's name has to do with allah, which means that b4 islam allah was worshiped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODq0BooqXQk 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by AntiChristian: 10:06am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Femiwilli: Allah is not God But Christian Bible writers used Allah for their God in Arabic and Hausa Bible. Farawa (Genesis) 1:1-10 Allah appears 11 times in 10 verses 1A sa'ad da Allah ya fara halittar Sama da duniya, 2duniya ba ta da siffa, sarari ce kawai, duhu kuwa yana lulluɓe da fuskar zurfin teku, Ruhun Allah kuma yana shawagi bisa ruwayen. 3 Allah ya ce, “Bari haske ya kasance,” sai kuwa ya kasance. 4 Allah ya ga hasken yana da kyau. Allah ya raba tsakanin hasken da duhu, 5ya ce da hasken, “Yini,” duhu kuwa, “Dare.” Ga maraice, ga safiya, kwana ɗaya ke nan. 6 Allah ya ce, “Bari sarari ya kasance tsakanin ruwaye, don ya raba tsakaninsu.” 7 Allah kuwa ya yi sarari, ya kuma raba tsakanin ruwayen da suke ƙarƙashin sararin da ruwayen da suke birbishin sararin. Haka nan kuwa ya kasance. 8 Allah ya ce da sarari, “Sararin sama.” Ga maraice, ga safiya, kwana na biyu ke nan. 9 Allah kuwa ya ce, “Bari ruwayen da suke ƙarƙashin sararin su tattaru wuri ɗaya, bari kuma sandararriyar ƙasa ta bayyana.” Haka nan kuwa ya kasance. 10 Allah ya ce da sandararriyar ƙasar, “Duniya,” tattaruwan ruwayen da aka tara kuwa, ya ce da su, “Tekuna.” Allah ya ga yana da kyau. It doesn't matter if you don't understand Hausa Bible of Genesis 1:1-10. Christians would agree they don't worship Allah but why would these Christian translators use Allah so much in the Hausa Bible? I guess this is a plot to deceive the unsuspecting Hausas to accept Christianity just as Grape juice was used to replace wine in the Bible. So Christians can use a God they call an Idol to deceive people to their religion? Any Hausa should never be a Christian with this hypocrisy! 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:46am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Femiwilli: Same lies from ignoramus. Saying Allah is a moon God is simple false. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {And He has subjected to you the night and the day, the sun and the moon; and the stars are subjected by His Command. Surely, in this are proofs for people who understand. }[16:12]. Allah also Says: {It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit.}[36:40]. He also Says: {They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage. It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, etc.) that you enter the houses from the back but Al-Birr (is the quality of the one) who fears Allâh. So enter houses through their proper doors, and fear Allâh that you may be successful.}[2:189]. He Says: {And has made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?}[71:16]. He Says: {And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses, to be of service to you; and He has made the night and the day, to be of service to you.}[14:33]. Where did they get Allah is moon god from Qur'an and Sunnah? And it's even pathetic they claiming all what is being said in the video! This guys are super ignorant of what they are saying! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 7:47pm On Feb 24, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Anytime Muslims are exposed that their Allah is an idol and not the same as the Allah Arabic-speaking Christians worship, Muslims run to get validation from the Christians. Islam Allah is a moon and star idol whose image they put at the top of the minarets of their mosques. Muslims, stop using the fact that Arabs Christians also refer to God as Allah to say that Muslims Allah is not a pagan god. The generic name for God is Ilah in Arabic and it's usually preceded with 'Al' which means 'The' hence, Al-Ilah which was later contracted to mean Allah. As for your own Allah, the Arab moon god is called Lah and this is also preceded by Al which means 'The' hence, Al and Lah was combined to give you your own Allah. The Allah Christians,(whether Arabs or Hausa) pray to and worship is the Holy One of Israel, the Father of Christ the Mesaiah, The One not confined to the Kaaba, the One Who doesn't support immorality, the one whom Muhammad was not his Prophet, the one not prayed to in the mosques. So, the name may sound the same, the One Christians worship is different. The Arab Christians never joined in the naked worship of Allah in the Kaaba, they never did pilgrimage to the Kaaba, they never associated with the Allah of the Muslisms. Another thing you should know is that the so called pagans were actually worshipping Allah who was and is, also a pagan god they knew Allah for whom he was and still is, Muhammad didn't tell about a new Allah, Christians and Jews in Mecca that time never joined them in naked worship of Allah the immoral god in the Kaaba, everyone knew the whom they were worshipping. Abdulmuttalib, Muhammad’s grandfather wh every Muslim agree was pagan but being a pagan that he was, he named his son after his Idol, Allah : Abd Allah :Abdullah.. Another evidence is the revelation in the Quran:
Note that from the above, they mentioned Allah as their god who had been supporting their sexual immoralities and nudity during Tawaf and this continued even until after Muhammad became the Prophet of the same allah and then decided to modify the tradition but Fahisha still take place at the Kaaba, women are being groped abs molested while doing Tawaf
And even today, Christians who call God Allah don't pray to Allah the idol of the Kaaba, they don't accept the Muhammad as the Messenger of God, they don't associate with the idol Allah, so how can you Muslims say you worship the same God as Christians ? Continue worshipping your idol while Arab and Hausa Christians worship Al-Ilah the Holy One of Israel. But Muhammad made us know that the pagan Allah was the same Allah his Quraysh tribe worshipped that's why he retained all the practices and only modified some. Allah of Muslims and Islam is the same as Hubal and Baal the moon idol and that's why the symbol of Islam is crescent moon and star. Islam clearly goes against the order of God that they should not set up a stone for worship Lev.26.1 - "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God. While Yahweh forbids bowing down to stone, Muslims bow down to the Blackstone to kiss it as part of the religious obligation during hajj. Shalom 3 Likes |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 7:52pm On Feb 24, 2022 |
Femiwilli:Allah is the pagan idol of Quraysh that pagans including Muhammad’s grandfather, Abdulmuttalib worshipped and even named Abdullah his son after. Muhammad only continued the family idol practice and passed in down to Muslims Muhammad was worshipping his tribal idol, Allah in the cave before he had encountered with the jinn that pressed him down Muhammad knew that it was a jinn and he feared that something bad might happen to him but Khadijah and Waraqa were determined to make muhammad a prophet by all means Waraqa pronounced Muhammad as a prophet and not any divine power! 3 Likes |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:17am On Feb 25, 2022 |
advocatejare: Where are the evidence for all these wild assumptions? 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 10:38am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv:Sahih Bukhari 3 talks about how the jinn pinned muhammad down three times, talks about how Muhammed feared tht something bad may happen to him, talks about how he ran to his wife Khadija who took him to Waraqa who pronounced him a prophet. You Muslims accept that Abdulmuttalib was a pagan, what was the name of his idol? Allah! How do we know? Idol worshippers name their children after their idols. Abdulmuttalib named Abdullah, muhammad’a father after Allah his idol! 2 Likes |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by motayoayinde: 10:27am On Feb 26, 2022 |
Femiwilli: OF ALL THE SPURIOUS THINGS ADVANCED BY ISLAMOPHOBES TO DISPARAGE ISLAM,THIS IS THE MOST LAUGHABLE. IT JUST SHOWS HOW DESPERATE THEY ARE TO HURT ISLAM. OTHER CHRISTIANS ARE EMBARRASSED WHEN THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THIS AND THIS IS WHY: MILLIONS OF NORTHERN NIGERIAN CHRISTIANS REFER TO GOD (their warped version) AS ALLAH EVERYDAY! MILLIONS OF ARAB CHRISTIANS REFER TO GOD (their warped version) AS ALLAH EVERYDAY! ARAB JEWS AND CHRISTIANS REFER TO GOD AS ALLAH LONG BEFORE THE PROPHET WAS BORN. ARABIC VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE HAVE THE WORD ALLAH AS GOD IN THEM. SO WHAT IS OBSESSION OF ISLAMOPHOBES WITH THE NAME WE CALL THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE? DO THEY QUESTION WHY THE IGBO CALL HIM CHINEKE? DO THEY ASK WHY THE YORUBA CALL HIM OLORUN? DO THEY NOT HAVE A NAME FOR THE ALMIGHTY IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE? BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, SHOULDN'T THEY (christians especially) WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE ABOUT THE ALMIGHTY WHO IS ABSOLUTELY GOD AND NOT MAN? AND ABSOLUTELY ONE AND NOT THREE? AND ABSOLUTELY POWERFUL AND NOT KILLABLE OR NEEDING A HUMAN SACRIFICE TO FORGIVE SINS? ALLAH IS SIMPLY THE NAME FOR THE ALMIGHTY GOD IN ARABIC. |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by haekymbahd(m): 12:43pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
Femiwilli:I believe you are a Christian please tell me who was the God of Ishmael.. And what/which nation did the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob made out of ishmail Genesis 21 17 And God heard the voice of the youth, and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven and said to her, What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the youth where he is. 18 Arise, raise up the youth and support him with your hand, for I intend to make him a great nation. 2 Likes |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by motayoayinde: 2:19pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
haekymbahd: JAZAAKALLAH BRO. Advocatejare ANSWER THIS. AND DONT TYPE RUBBISH LIKE YOUR "LAH" god LATRINE THEORY WHICH I'M SURE YOU FABRICATED WHILE POOING. |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 3:10pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
motayoayinde:Next time ask someone to teach you with courtesy. When you ask in a sensible way I’ll answer you. “Answer this” as if you’re paying me to be teaching you! You want the same person that types “rubbish” to come and teach you, it shows your level of intelligence! |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 3:28pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
haekymbahd:God blessed Ishmael because he was a seed of Abraham, there was never a mention of Ishmael or his descendants serving Yahweh. When Yahweh introduced Himself he said he is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Exodus 3:6) Note that there was no mention of Ishmael! Then he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God. -Exodus 3:6 You tell us the nation if you know: This is what the scriptures says about Ishmael: "This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.” -Genesis 16:5-12 As for the descendants of Isaac, God said kings of MANY NATIONS will come from him (as against Ishmael of one nation): Genesis 17:15-22 Then God said to Abraham, “Regarding Sarai, your wife—her name will no longer be Sarai. From now on her name will be Sarah. And I will bless her and give you a son from her! Yes, I will bless her richly, and she will become the mother of many nations. Kings of nations will be among her descendants.” 2 Likes |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by haekymbahd(m): 6:02pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
advocatejare:Allah SWT said: "Allah, your Lord and the Lord of your first forefathers?" (QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 126) "And they denied him, so indeed, they will be brought [for punishment]," (QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 127) who was the God of ishmail or which God did he worship with his mother. Who is your God? Mind you Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac only knew God as Allah/Elohim they didn't know anyone bearing Yahwe. It was only from Moses they started calling him Yahwe. Exodus 6 2 And God said to Moses, I am the Lord. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty [El-Shaddai], but by My [a]name the Lord [Yahweh--the redemptive name of God] I did not make Myself known to them [in acts and great miracles]. The name Allah/Elohim had been in existence even before Muhammad it was the name Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac knew. The descendant of Ishmael started associating partners with Allah that was their offence. ALLAH the creator alone deserves to be worshipped. Example: during the time of Moses his followers started worshipping calf while he was away and alive now imagine what could have happened to Ishmaels descendants after his death. Where is the Great nation God promise to make out of Ishmael? |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 6:54pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
haekymbahd:Stop asking silly questions, tell us your answer My God is Yahweh How does El-Shaddai look like Allah. Allah is a pagan moon idol Elohim is the Arabic equivalent of Ilah and not Allah What’s the reference for this? Allah is devil that wants to be worshipped like the real God Stop asking idiotic questions, just tell me the answer if you know! |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Femiwilli: 4:22am On Feb 28, 2022 |
haekymbahd: If God was the God of Ishmael ,then God would have said so. Instead we see He never said He is the God of Ishmael Abraham had to beg God to bless Ishmael, which means that if Abraham did not then he would not have been blessed Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! Notice that God said to Abraham that he will have a son, which means that this ishmael was not what God wanted. Genesis 17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. Notice that nobody asked God to establish His covenant with Isaac, God chose to do it on His own. Also God said its the seed of Isaac NOT Ishmael that has the covenant So Ishmael is not in the covenant , hence Mohammed is NOT of God. Thats why God never said He is the God of Ishmael  No vex but allah is NOT God & will never be God. allah confirmed he is not the God of the Jews & Christians Surah 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends: They are but friends to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah does not guide them |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Femiwilli: 4:26am On Feb 28, 2022 |
motayoayinde: allah confirmed he is not the God of the Jews & Christians Surah 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends: They are but friends to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah does not guide them 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by haekymbahd(m): 6:41am On Feb 28, 2022 |
Femiwilli: God himself heared the voice of Ishmael and it wasn't Abraham who spoke Genesis 21 17 And God heard the voice of the youth, and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven and said to her, What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the youth where he is. 18 Arise, raise up the youth and support him with your hand, for I intend to make him a great nation. Where is the Great nation God made out of Ishmael or was God lieing? Who was the God of Ishmael? Femiwilli:Then why did God curse isreal.. Mathew 23 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, murdering the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a mother fowl gathers her brood under her wings, and you refused! 38 Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate (abandoned and left destitute of God's help). [I Kings 9:7; Jer. 22:5.] 39 For I declare to you, you will not see Me again until you say, Blessed is He Who comes in the name of the Lord! Yet God cursed the isrealites that they won't see him again due to their disobedience. Have they accepted the one that came in the name of the lord. Can you see why God told Muslims not to be friends with Jews also they attack Muhammad early on trying to kill him Allah SWT said: "And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, Our hearts are wrapped. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few." (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 155) Femiwilli:You are deceiving yourself, so Muslims should follow Jews who rejected Jesus or christians who equate him as God. No we Muslim can not join this 2 groups because both deviated. So why does Jews and Christians dislike each other stop being an hypocrite. Moreover they were both trying to prevent the spread of Islam.. Allah has always been God and will forever be God either you accept or not. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:58am On Feb 28, 2022 |
advocatejare: You should have quoted the Hadiths that mentioned Jinn pinning down Muhammad three times! 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 1:14pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv:Sahih al-Bukhari 3 Narrated 'Aisha (the mother of the faithful believers): The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright daylight, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food likewise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, …. 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by RightChannel: 2:15am On Mar 01, 2022 |
advocatejare: Rashduct4luv this is serious oo |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:03am On Mar 01, 2022 |
RightChannel: How serious is it? |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:05am On Mar 01, 2022 |
advocatejare: The hadith says "Angel" not Jinn. Quote the one that says Jinn as you said before. advocatejare: |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 10:03am On Mar 01, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv:Angels don’t pin people down, angels don’t harass messengers of God Angels make their intentions known to the people they are sent to Angels introduce themselves to the people they are sent to! We know that the so called angel that appeared to muhammad and pressed him down three times is not an angel but a demon because of the above reasons: 1. He pressed Muhammad (O rin Muhammad mole) that’s an attribute of demonic oppression 2. He didn’t make intentions known to muhammad, he only said “read” he didn’t say he had come to tell muhammad that he was destined to be a prophet. Muhammad was pronounced a prophet by Waraqa 3. He didn’t introduce himself from being from God 1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 3:59pm On Mar 01, 2022 |
advocatejare: So the hadith mentioned angel but you decided it's not angel and lied that it was Jinn right? |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by RightChannel: 4:18pm On Mar 01, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: How an ordinary jinn pinned down muhammad |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:10am On Mar 02, 2022 |
RightChannel: Where is "Jinn" mentioned in the hadith? |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 10:21am On Mar 02, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv:The attributes of the so called Jibreel were that of a jinn and not of an angel. You don’t know and instead of asking you don’t want to: “So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.” -Yunus 10:94 |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by RightChannel: 11:11pm On Mar 02, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: Your question had been answered already but let me just add this to it so as to open wide your brain. When the same Jibril visited Mary as written down in your Qur'an, did he pinned Mary down? |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 3:42pm On Mar 04, 2022 |
So in essense, the hadith says Angel but you changed the Angel to Jinn out of your own volition. Then you started broadcasting lies about Jinn when the text says Angel. You are simply a liar. advocatejare: RightChannel: The Islamic concept of Angel is that they obey the command of their Lord and they never disobey Him. Pinning him down was not to kill him. |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by advocatejare(m): 7:39pm On Mar 04, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv:What was the intention of pinning him down? To possess him? |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by RightChannel: 9:11am On Mar 05, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: I asked you a question but you failed woefully to answer. The same Jibril that visited Mary as written down in your Qur'an, did he pinned Mary down? Angel Gabriel is not like Angel Micheal, you can use the internet to know more about the two Angels. Angel Gabriel will never pin anyone's down just because he wanted to pass a message.. Demons (Jinns) tormented your prophet in cave and not Angel Gabriel Rashduct4luv: So you agreed that he was pinned down  the work of Angel Gabriel is to make God's message understandable to people and helps them to accept it with a pure heart and not to pin someone's down.. Several times this same prophet of yours went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down1 Like |
| Re: Proof Allah Not God by Rashduct4luv(m): 3:31pm On Mar 07, 2022 |
RightChannel: That Angel gave the news of a son to Mary. Was the news of a Son given to Muhammad? How was the actions of the Angels similar in those instances? Angel Gabriel is not like Angel Micheal, you can use the internet to know more about the two Angels. Angel Gabriel will never pin anyone's down just because he wanted to pass a message.. Demons (Jinns) tormented your prophet in cave and not Angel Gabriel You have your beliefs different from mine. Your own Angel Gabriel can't do what you said according to your Bible. According to Islam, Angels obey whatever Allah commands them and they have no freewill like humans. So you agreed that he was pinned downThis is the work of Angel as you stipulate it or was that what is found in your Bible? Anyways, Islam is different from your belief! |
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