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It's also time for the international space station to be dismantled and Russia collect their Zvezda and Zarya module let's see how the ISS will still remain after that.

The West can't keep sanctioning the Russia space sector and expect to fold their arms even when Russia is an integral and important part of the ISS

Same thing they did in 2014

SarkinYarki:
Useless Democrats have been planning to cripple Russia for years now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yDaaE6WuG4

Russia has already been crippled.

Better relocate to Russia now

If you have 100,000 Naira you will be living like a king!

Zimbabwean dollar is higher than Rubbles now

Economy has been crippled far before now. The final burial the west is doing now

uniquetechng:
Nord 1 stream only account for 40% of gas supply to Europe, Europe is working on alternatives already. Germany has stopped the Nord 2 pipeline, so the situation wont favour Russia no matter how you look at it.

let them stop nord 1 now

DoggoneDogg:
This one is over the heads of our Nairaland war analysts and strategists that's why page 1 calm


What it simply says is that the West rely on Russia to transport their satellites to space. Now that they have sanctioned Russia, Russia has refused to transport their satellites to space.


Imagine banning your benefactor.
These people stupid die.

Not exactly, they are in agreement with the Russian firm not like Europe depends on Russia to transport satellites to space.

CoronaVirusPro:
Russia has already been crippled.

Better relocate to Russia now

If you have 100,000 Naira you will be living like a king!

Zimbabwean dollar is higher than Rubbles now

Economy has been crippled far before now. The final burial the west is doing now

is that what cnn told you?

jesmond3945:
let them stop nord 1 now

Thats Russia's only hope of survival for now.

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incogni2o:
E no pain .

Make them even chop the satelite

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Are you aware that your almighty NASA uses Russian rockets to go to space??

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uniquetechng:
Not exactly, they are in agreement with the Russian firm not like Europe depends on Russia to transport satellites to space.

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So who transports their satellites to space?
NASA abi??


Una go learn by force nor worry

angelfallz:
https://www.quora.com/Whos-winning-Ukraine-or-Russia/answer/Paul-Denlinger?ch=15&oid=341949069&share=35048d7e&srid=uT7V2k&target_type=answer

Who's winning, Ukraine or Russia?
In times like this, it helps me to look back to get perspective.

In 1989, there were the Tiananmen demonstrations in Beijing, where students called for western-style freedom and democracy, and urged Deng Xiaoping and the Chinese Communist Party to relinquish power.

The most famous image from that time is the image of tank man, the individual who became a symbol for so many people in the west of the desire among ordinary Chinese for freedom and democracy.

The whole world outside China sided with this one individual. Following the events of June 4, sanctions were imposed on the Chinese government; some of these are still in place, such as the US and EU arms embargoes against the Chinese government. For years, the Chinese economy slowed down. Deng Xiaoping called on Chinese to continue to go about their lives. In 1992, he visited southern China and Shenzhen to encourage business and trade with the rest of the world. Slowly, the economy picked up. Today, China has the largest economy in the world.

Who won: the Western media and western values of freedom and democracy? Or was it the Chinese Communist Party?

I would say that it was the Chinese Communist Party which rode out all the criticism and embargoes coming from all directions, and got on with the business of modernizing China. The people who made the most noise and predicted its downfall lost.

In 2019, there were severe demonstrations and arson in Hong Kong, with many of Hong Kong’s youth calling for Hong Kong to become independent of China, or even becoming a British colony again. They repudiated their own Chinese heritage, and fully embraced Western values of freedom and democracy, and called on the US government to intervene on their behalf. Western non-government organizations (NGOs) gave financial support to these demonstrators which made it difficult for many people to go to work. The Hong Kong government was helpless in dealing with the demonstrations.

The Western media again embraced these Hong Kong demonstrators as a symbol for how the people of Hong Kong and ordinary Chinese wanted freedom and democracy so that they could elect their own political leaders, just as they are elected in the west.

The Chinese government in Beijing passed a National Security Law for Hong Kong; the Hong Kong government had been unable to pass this since Hong Kong was returned to the PRC in 1997 because of local opposition. With the passage of the National Security Law, Beijing was able to send security personnel to Hong Kong to provide support to the Hong Kong police in apprehending demonstrators, and in putting the leaders on trial.

Today, in 2022, there are no more demonstrations in Hong Kong, and people are able to commute to their daily jobs without fear. The National Security Law has made clear that calling for overseas support against the Chinese government is illegal. Some Hong Kong people who do not like this law are emigrating to western countries. But the majority of people in HK have chosen to stay, and are just quietly getting on with their lives.

Most people in the Western media have forgotten about these Hong Kong demonstrations, because now they are focused on what is happening in Ukraine.

Here are the lessons I have learned, and how I apply them to the Russia/Ukraine dispute:

Issues are complicated, and most people don’t have the patience to understand all the contributing factors. Instead they embrace their own emotions and images. But often these are not real, because politics and international relations are about raw power, not emotions.
The stronger the initial reaction, the more quickly it is forgotten. People have short attention spans, and they are getting shorter;
Sanctions work until the nations and companies applying the sanctions review their profit and loss statements at the end of the quarter. Then they start wondering;
The western media has a stranglehold on western audiences because they like to focus on human interest stories with victims. How can anyone not sympathize with a Ukraine mother who loses her 9 year-old daughter who was shot by a Russian soldier? Doesn’t that show how evil Putin is? What more needs to be discussed?
The people and politicians who win in the end are the ones who take the long view and can ride out a tough situation, and don’t let the media frenzy distract them. Who was in charge in China in 1989? The Chinese Communist Party. Who is in charge in China in 2022? The Chinese Communist Party. I am not saying that they are good or bad, but they certainly know how to ride out a tough situation without getting distracted by western media noise.
Putin was a KGB colonel stationed in East Germany when the Berlin Wall came down. He has ruled Russia after the collapse of the USSR, and when it went through a decade of chaos before it gradually rebuilt its economy and society. Setting aside what you think of him personally, he is a tough person who has seen a lot more than any other western politician, and has had to survive these challenges.

China’s Xi Jinping is also a tough character; he was sent to a village for seven years where he had to clean latrines, among other tasks, for seven years. Do you know any western politicians or media personalities who had to do this? I don’t.

I believe that the close personal bond between Putin and Xi is based on the fact that both have had to deal with huge personal challenges, and they came out winning in the end. They understand that patience wins in the end, not what other people, especially the western media, say about them.

Right now, Ukraine’s President Zelenskyy is doing all he can to stay in front of the western media and win sympathy for Ukraine. Most in the west denounce Putin for his policy, and he is largely staying out of public view. Most people in the West are convinced that Putin is insane.

Putin is toughing things out, while western governments and the media are trying to land a knockout blow against Russia.

But Russia has had to deal with very tough situations before, and they came out as winners, just as the Chinese Communist Party has in China.

If my observations about China apply, Putin will come out the winner in the end, even though he will suffer in the short-term and will never be accepted in the West. But that doesn’t matter, because in the end, it is what Russians think of him which is most important.

Nice one bro!

RichDad1:
Those mention are not up to “half of the world” besides, Western Europe and America are not the only Russian business interests that are not cool with this war.

China , India are already 3 billion people , the rest is over a billion ...and you think it's not half of the world ? Who thought you maths ? ... Europe and USA are not even upto India combined

ken6488:
you think Russia is Libya?

You dey mind them if u.s get mind make dem attack first

CoronaVirusPro:
Russia has already been crippled.

Better relocate to Russia now

If you have 100,000 Naira you will be living like a king!

Zimbabwean dollar is higher than Rubbles now

Economy has been crippled far before now. The final burial the west is doing now

Any country on earth I go to I am 1 percenter

uniquetechng:
Nord 1 stream only account for 40% of gas supply to Europe, Europe is working on alternatives already. Germany has stopped the Nord 2 pipeline, so the situation wont favour Russia no matter how you look at it.

Again Europe would suffer greatly from stoping the Certification of Nord Stream 2

Royal Dutch Shell are the major investor, and using Nord Stream 2 Baltic sea routes would make gas cheaper in Europe as they don't have to pay Ukrainians through Nord Stream 1 route

DoggoneDogg:
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So who transports their satellites to space?
NASA abi??

O
Una go learn by force nor worry

Airbus Defence and Space in France , and OHB in Sweden and few other companies can handle that

Mooh247:


When gas supply don cut and their light don reduce.... Na to go sell I better pass my neighbour generator to Europeans go sure pass

China joined the group lol, nah new market be that

Mooh247:
Again Europe would suffer greatly from stoping the Certification of Nord Stream 2

Royal Dutch Shell are the major investor, and using Nord Stream 2 Baltic sea routes would make gas cheaper in Europe as they don't have to pay Ukrainians through Nord Stream 1 route

Nord 2 has been stopped already long before the war started due certification issues with Getman officials, uts not even about the war.

uniquetechng:
Russian economy depends on its gas export so cutting off the Nord 1 stream will afdect Russia more, remember China is the 5th biggest gas producer in the world and domestic gas supply account for 65% of their annual gas consumption so China cant rescue Russia in this instance.

bro the point be say na everyone go feel d heat, after all the sanctions… dem go surely hit back, dem no want to be distracted, focus on Ukraine first then dem deal with economic setbacks later, tbh nah everyone go feel am… he never turn off the gas, price don rise plus inflation, make we wait and see… I just want the bloody war to stop, I like economic and cyberwar better…. This is no fun….

SarkinYarki:
Useless Democrats have been planning to cripple Russia for years now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d4rcoPulY4

Another NL ignorant mor.on

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uniquetechng:
Airbus Defence and Space in France , and in Sweden and few other companies can handle that

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Look at this idiot giving me google search results.
I'm talking about the rockets not the company.

Nawa for Nairaland war strategist

Teaser4:
bro the point be say na everyone go feel heat, after all the sanctions… dem go surely hit back, dem no want to be distracted, focus on Ukraine first then dem deal with economic setbacks later, tbh nah everyone go feel am… he never turn on the gas, price don rise plus inflation, make we wait and see… I just want the bloody war to stop, I like economic and cyberwar better…. This is no fun….

Russia don practice all worst scenerio and simulated all possible reaction so Europe just dey act film

With $650 billion Foreign reserve, and 2000 tonnes of Gold reserves.. many countries would secretly break the sanction and trade blackmarket with Russia

Triangles1:
Don't be surprised the west cooked this war in other to seize some of Russian investment, Putin supposed to carry his billionaire families along this war, it may look as if Russia is winning but the west are on top of the game,
If you know you know.

Wisdom is profitable power only exhaust the strength.

Putin on hardwork.
The west on smart work.

. Honestly, that's what is happening. Putin is all brawns only.
Definitely he will capture Kyiv but he wouldn't win and even if he stops the operations, the west would still use the sanctions to ruin Russia and drag them back in such a way that it would take a very long time for Russia to recover.

Russia is getting bleeped real hard. Though I don't support US and NATO.

Betscoreodds:
CNN fake news media has made you to become addicted to lies you can't think for yourself you don't even understand again how powerful Russia is... You don't know whatever USA has Russia has it almost times two..

,, you talk too much

UpLoyo:
Another NL ignorant mor.on

See my message is not for people with low IQ so please move on Gbefu

Basheer22:
Go help them lift it since you're in a hurry

Well you know nothing my friend if you think someone like Putin will sit back and swallow the sanctions

Patoski7:
You dey mind them if u.s get mind make dem attack first

I just dey laugh them most people think Russia can be bullied

DoggoneDogg:
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Are you aware that your almighty NASA uses Russian rockets to go to space??

Are you joking?

That will never ever happen again in rusia's future forever History.

Do you follow space news?

America has already ridden it's last contract ride with rusia.

SpaceX is the new Highway

Mooh247:





You sanction them, they sanction you back


Let Putin turn off Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline to Europe, let's see if Europe without Electricity powered by gas turbines are better than normal Nigerians without power shouting up NEPA

Let's see if they can withstand winter cold without Russian gas

Now all satellite company would have to pay through their noses to use NASA or Space X lunch vehicles..... America is truly an evil genius and masters of the game.



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You are too wicked. You want 40 million people to die in one week abi

Triangles1:
Don't be surprised the west cooked this war in other to seize some of Russian investment, Putin supposed to carry his billionaire families along this war, it may look as if Russia is winning but the west are on top of the game,
If you know you know.

Wisdom is profitable power only exhaust the strength.

Putin on hardwork.
The west on smart work.

west is only doing initial gra gra … Fighting Putin or Russia is like fighting Boko haram they don’t care to lose all and they don’t care to blow up the whole world … and again Europe will beg last last , they need Russia oil and gas to survive

Make una beg Russia oo, make this war no extend come Africa oo

Ikem11:
Well you know nothing my friend if you think someone like Putin will sit back and swallow the sanctions

Putin can't do anything. By the time they are thru with Putin, he will realise that Russia is bigger than Putin.

[quote author=Triangles1 post=110720353]Don't be surprised the west cooked this war in other to seize some of Russian investment, Putin supposed to carry his billionaire families along this war, it may look as if Russia is winning but the west are on top of the game,
If you know you know.

Wisdom is profitable power only exhaust the strength.

Putin on hardwork.
The west on smart work.[/quo


You don’t know anything

Mooh247:
Russia don practice all worst scenerio and simulated all possible reaction so Europe just dey act film

With $650 billion Foreign reserve, and 2000 tonnes of Gold reserves.. many countries would secretly break the sanction and trade blackmarket with Russia

How much of its foreign reserves can Russia access as at today? Tell us.