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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:40am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


It is never a midfielders fault when a striker isn't firing. I don't believe in blaming midfielders when strikers don't score because that's what Torres fans used to do while everyone could see that Torres is hiding on the pitch.

Only a small percentage of strikers goal come from the Hollywood pass from the midfielder. 95% is from cutbacks, crosses, hustle and bustle, strikers own dribbling, striker instigating the pass with his movement, and sheer opportunism.

Lukakus problem is simple. He got injured just before the juicy run of fixtures came where he would have filled his boots and boosted his confidence. He came back from injury, gave an interview that turned fans against him and that also coincided with a tough run of fixtures and his confidence sank lower and lower. We are now in the easy run of fixtures where he should ordinarily use to gain his confidence back but he has lost his place and rightly so.
The earlier you know Lukaku can not play elite football the better it will be for us.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 2:40am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Maybe he thought Havertz has a right foot

Any serious right footed player in that position will go for goal.A striker with killer instinct would have hoped to score from a rebound if necessary.

Anybody who knows Lukaku even sparingly will know that he always reacts that way to any shot taken which didn't end up at the back of the net.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:50am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Just saw highlights. No chance of him following that ball because he had already taken a couple steps the other way anticipating a cutback from Havertz. He was nowhere in the vicinity having gone for the cutback. This is way off, and complete witchhunting.

At this point, Lukaku switches his run to go for the cutback, you say he should have been at the backpost when the ball hit the post. How will someone running in the direction of Havertz be at the backpost before a defender running in a straight-line toward the goal. Pure agenda.
Lukaku is not intelligent with that move, he crowded the situation for himself and Havertz. As an intelligent attacker you spread the counter because that other defender was already on Havertz. Havertz did the right thing by shooting, lukaku ought to have finish the rebound if he was half intelligent as a striker. He is just brawn and pace with average intelligent.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:51am On Mar 14, 2022
hensben:
The earlier you know Lukaku can not play elite football the better it will be for us.

Yeah, Belgium record scorer and current Serie A POTY cannot play elite football. I sorry for all Belgians and Serie A footballers. Hope you know Lukaku is in the top20 all time scorers in EPL?

All you are seeing is bad luck of getting injured at the wrong time and lack of confidence of his own making

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 2:55am On Mar 14, 2022
Kai can Havertz all. What a goal that was. Sublime.
At least we can point to having an intelligent player in the squad. Long may this continue.

It's Lille next.

We are here to win.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:56am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Yeah, Belgium record scorer and current Serie A POTY cannot play elite football. I sorry for all Belgians and Serie A footballers. Hope you know Lukaku is in the top20 all time scorers in EPL?

All you are seeing is bad luck of getting injured at the wrong time and lack of confidence of his own making
Stat is deceiving and doesn’t tell it all. Ole saw this too and benched him. It’s not by stat padding against San Marino and Cyprus. Serial a is slow which suited his game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:58am On Mar 14, 2022
swiz123:


Any serious right footed player in that position will go for goal.A striker with killer instinct would have hoped to score from a rebound if necessary.

Anybody who knows Lukaku even sparingly will know that he always reacts that way to any shot taken which didn't end up at the back of the net.

Striker don't make runs for rebounds unless they are completely out of the picture for a pass.

At this point the decision is made to go for the cutback run, there is no reason for any striker to believe the defender will catch Havertz unless Havertz loses distance on the defender by poor ball carrying or a suboptimal line of running. The defender is Matt Targett, not Usain Bolt

If he went for rebound, he would be behind the defender and you will claim he is hiding

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:03am On Mar 14, 2022
hensben:
Stat is deceiving and doesn’t tell it all. Ole saw this too and benched him. It’s not by stat padding against San Marino and Cyprus. Serial a is slow which suited his game.

Someone should please statpad for Chelsea. We can't be seeing Neil Maupay in goalscorers chart with 8 goals and none of our strikers there

Lukaku scored 27 goals in his first season at Manure. Name the last Chelsea striker to do that, you'll have to go further back than Diego Costa

Infact help me name the 2nd highest goalscorer at the last World Cup or the UEFA Nations league topscorer last season. No Cyrpus there.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:04am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Striker don't make runs for rebounds unless they are completely out of the picture for a pass.

At this point the decision is made to go for the cutback run, there is no reason for any striker to believe the defender will catch Havertz unless Havertz loses distance on the defender by poor ball carrying or a suboptimal line of running. The defender is Matt Targett, not Usain Bolt

If he went for rebound, he would be behind the defender and you will claim he is hiding

You are forming too many hypothesis which isn't surprising whenever you want to cover your favourites. The mofo should have went for a rebound when he saw that the defender has limited Havertz's option to attempting a shot.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:13am On Mar 14, 2022
swiz123:


You are forming too many hypothesis which isn't surprising whenever you want to cover your favourites. The mofo should have went for a rebound when he saw that the defender has limited Havertz's option to attempting a shot.

At the time of the cutback run, the defender hadn't limited the option. I don't expect him to go running backpost where Schar has blocked any possible passing line to back post. That run is my favourite run as a striker, and one of the reason I won golden boot in my Uni playing days. There are many ways Havertz could get that ball to the cutback, simplest is running in a straighter line, not cutting the angle to Targett and using his right foot, not that Havertz choice is wrong because he also got his shot away so either way the team has achieved its goal. Swap Havertz for a right footed James and that cutback is coming. That was the correct run.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:27am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Someone should please statpad for Chelsea. We can't be seeing Neil Maupay in goalscorers chart with 8 goals and none of our strikers there

Lukaku scored 27 goals in his first season at Manure. Name the last Chelsea striker to do that, you'll have to go further back than Diego Costa

Infact help me name the 2nd highest goalscorer at the last World Cup
Like I said stat is deceiving. His game play is average and disrupt Tuchel’s tactics. Now we can see the board forced him on Tuchel to be starting. If not anything this crisis relived Tuchel of that burden. Lukaku lack football basics. Clutch players with technical abilities does it for me, not stat-padding and the team will be suffering and lacking tactical structure.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:46am On Mar 14, 2022
hensben:
Like I said stat is deceiving. His game play is average and disrupt Tuchel’s tactics. Now we can see the board forced him on Tuchel to be starting. If not anything this crisis relived Tuchel of that burden. Lukaku lack football basics. Clutch players with technical abilities does it for me, not stat-padding and the team will be suffering and lacking tactical structure.

Tuchel signed Lukaku, end of, like you advised him to.

His unreliable touch has been known about since he started playing. It didn't stop anything. Apart from that, all you are seeing is lack of confidence. A nigga who shot himself to top 20 EPL all-time goalscorers by the age of 26 is not as clueless at striker work as some would have you believe. Nigga is just at his lowest confidence following that interview on the back of injury.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:55am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Tuchel signed Lukaku, end of, like you advised him to.

His unreliable touch has been known about since he started playing. It didn't stop anything. Apart from that, all you are seeing is lack of confidence. A nigga who shot himself to top 20 EPL all-time goalscorers by the age of 26 is not as clueless at striker work as some would have you believe. Nigga is just at his lowest confidence following that interview on the back of injury.
He was second option because options were limited in the market. That aside, he has never be a clutch player like we know elite attackers for, he either score when the team is leading comfortably or against weak opponents. Rarely do anything against top defenders. He is a mid table striker. If at all, he only strive in counter attack set up. Most of his goals for Belgium are against San Marino, Luxembourg, Cyprus, etc.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CSTRR: 3:56am On Mar 14, 2022
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Are you guys sure that these people have an IQ or we are just overrating them because they are oyinbo?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 5:25am On Mar 14, 2022
hensben:
The earlier you know Lukaku can not play elite football the better it will be for us.

Are you sure you have followed Lukaku’s career because this is reading like recency bias. You can make a good argument that Lukaku is not a good fit for Tuchel’s system or not playing his best football because of a myriad of issues, including self inflicted issues but saying Lukaku can not play elite football is absolutely false and blasphemous.

Personally, I think if Chelsea/Tuchel/ Lukaku put the work in mastering and tweaking the tactics, Lukaku can be successful at Chelsea but I doubt Tuchel has that time, especially at this critical point of the season and that is why he is sticking with what works.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 6:15am On Mar 14, 2022
Roland17:


Are you sure you have followed Lukaku’s career because this is reading like recency bias. You can make a good argument that Lukaku is not a good fit for Tuchel’s system or not playing his best football because of a myriad of issues, including self inflicted issues but saying Lukaku can not play elite football is absolutely false and blasphemous.

Personally, I think if Chelsea/Tuchel/ Lukaku put the work in mastering and tweaking the tactics, Lukaku can be successful at Chelsea but I doubt Tuchel has that time, especially at this critical point of the season and that is why he is sticking with what works.


For me, it's the price tag. Yes he can play elite football, and yes he's probably suffering from slumped confidence, but it's what happens when he's not scoring that matters to me.

For £100m, you buy elite-level dynamism, which sets the player apart the moment he's on the ball.

Elite-level dynamism is what you see in their tactical play, technical awareness, and as I always say, their technical ability on the ball. It's what makes them go to the right channel, left channel, midfield, and destroy opponents, bring their team mates into play and improve overall technical structure of the team, even when they are struggling in front of goal.

This elite-level dynamism, Lukaku lacks. So when he's not scoring, it is not good to watch.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:38am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime you are making it look like Hojberg has too much limited space to throw in that pass.

In image 1, did you consider the space AFTER the frame? Look at where Kane finally connected with the ball in image 2.

And contrary to what you want us to believe, the farther the pass, the harder the accuracy. You can't tell me that an over the top long pass from the halfway line is easier than a chip in front of penalty box.

Odiro possible biko.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:57am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:

Simple projectile motion would tell you the more difficult skill if you know the physics required to gain elevation and drop the ball in a specific space.

grin
Convess physics.

50d33q:

Kane made the run, holgberg saw who he was passing to.
Havertz was out of picture, jourginho picked him out
2 different scenarios that we don't need concave or convess lens to calculate
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:04am On Mar 14, 2022
Roland17:


Are you sure you have followed Lukaku’s career because this is reading like recency bias. You can make a good argument that Lukaku is not a good fit for Tuchel’s system or not playing his best football because of a myriad of issues, including self inflicted issues but saying Lukaku can not play elite football is absolutely false and blasphemous.

Personally, I think if Chelsea/Tuchel/ Lukaku put the work in mastering and tweaking the tactics, Lukaku can be successful at Chelsea but I doubt Tuchel has that time, especially at this critical point of the season and that is why he is sticking with what works.

You already use IF in your statement which prove that he can not play elite football. Someone that can not hold the ball properly, only rely on pace and power, mid table level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 7:06am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


Tuchel signed Lukaku, end of, like you advised him to.

His unreliable touch has been known about since he started playing. It didn't stop anything. Apart from that, all you are seeing is lack of confidence. A nigga who shot himself to top 20 EPL all-time goalscorers by the age of 26 is not as clueless at striker work as some would have you believe. Nigga is just at his lowest confidence following that interview on the back of injury.

Lukaku was a board signing with time you guys will realize this. Transition merchant

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:13am On Mar 14, 2022
nateevs:


For me, it's the price tag. Yes he can play elite football, and yes he's probably suffering from slumped confidence, but it's what happens when he's not scoring that matters to me.

For £100m, you buy elite-level dynamism, which sets the player apart the moment he's on the ball.

Elite-level dynamism is what you see in their tactical play, technical awareness, and as I always say, their technical ability on the ball. It's what makes them go to the right channel, left channel, midfield, and destroy opponents, bring their team mates into play and improve overall technical structure of the team, even when they are struggling in front of goal.

This elite-level dynamism, Lukaku lacks. So when he's not scoring, it is not good to watch.
At the emboldened, that’s what make a player elite. Lewandowski, Benzema, Kane possess all this. Even in the past elite attackers possess these qualities. Lukaku is slow with the ball, like a trailer turning.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 7:30am On Mar 14, 2022
hensben:
At the emboldened, that’s what make a player elite. Lewandowski, Benzema, Kane possess all this. Even in the past elite attackers possess these qualities. Lukaku is slow with the ball, like a trailer turning.

If he attempts to run the ball in tight spaces, he will end up embarrassing himself. All his stans complained that is it everybody's fault that he isn't getting services grin grin grin , we warned them that a good striker doesn't need to be spoon-fed. They said we don't create chances but immediately his mediocre ass was dropped, chances started coming. Now, all his stans have seen what we have known all these while except popi who wants to head to North London in search of a locksmith to unlock his bag of beans.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 7:48am On Mar 14, 2022
Woke up to shouts of Happy birthday!

Man's not getting any younger no more cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DissTroy(m): 7:54am On Mar 14, 2022
EmmanuelScott1:
Ban ko, Ban Ni
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:58am On Mar 14, 2022
Skimpledawg:
Woke up to shouts of Happy birthday!

Man's not getting any younger no more cheesy
Happy birthday Apostle

Live long and prosper
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:00am On Mar 14, 2022
Skimpledawg:
Woke up to shouts of Happy birthday!

Man's not getting any younger no more cheesy

Happy birthday apostle

Shey we go shayo for mountain? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibunkun1(m): 8:06am On Mar 14, 2022
Skimpledawg:
Woke up to shouts of Happy birthday!

Man's not getting any younger no more cheesy

Happy Birthday MOG grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 8:08am On Mar 14, 2022
BlueMann:


Happy birthday apostle

Shey we go shayo for mountain? cheesy
On top mountain?
Why are you like this son of man? grin

Ibunkun1:


Happy Birthday MOG grin
Gracias Boss.

Segedinho:

Happy birthday Apostle

Live long and prosper
Appreciate Chief.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:19am On Mar 14, 2022
Ibime:


You are talking undiluted trash

Havertz was personally picked out but Kane was not?

The difficulty of a pass is determined by the amount of space in which you are dropping the ball, not any megedefegede you typed above.

All passes are into a space, whether the striker runs or not, that is their business, the object of the pass is to drop it into a space. The more space the easier the pass. If a striker and defence is on the halfway line and you have a whole half to pass into, that's the easiest assist you will get in football. That's why teams park bus, because the less space, the harder it is to play in the striker.

Jorginhos pass is actually a regular pass that Thiago Silva has made many times this season.

Hojberg pass is way more difficult because he can only hit a small pocket of space. If you don't know this, you don't know basics of football.
Lol, it's only trash because it doesn't align with your thoughts today. Hojberg pass is just an up through ball that's mostly triggered by strikers run. Kane was already making the run (seeing the space afforded) and hojberg (in sync) capitalized on it. I mean any professional midfielder can attempt such a pass. Stop making it seem as if na one " once in a season stuff". That's a chipped pass and we all know that space is not little(the way you're making us believe) compared to the distance at the back post and the run advantage Kane already had over the defender (who'll need to turn before running). Moreover, hojberg was even at the center area of the pitch sef, making it easier to give that chipped pass.

Compared to Jorg whose distance is farther(very far to be honest), at a side of a pitch and have two attackers to pick out yet he isolated and picked havertz with that pass. Only someone who has an agenda against Jorg will say that pass was easier to make than hojberg. While I respect that you play ball well, but they put others for here at the back of your mind say we play ball too.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:33am On Mar 14, 2022
Skimpledawg:
Woke up to shouts of Happy birthday!

Man's not getting any younger no more cheesy
Happy birthday apostle. Long life and prosperity oo grin

My birthday wish be say make you put arsenal for your prayer make we make top4 and make man u no go carry UCL this season. E no plenty pass laidat grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:43am On Mar 14, 2022
It's funny how people view that Jorg pass as just a "long ball" dropping it into space. Making it seem as if that pass no get intent and vision

Swap Jorg name with iniesta, fabregas and pirlo and we'll be hearing praises of Hollywood passe by those legends. Even Rodri and fabinho never do this wan yet(this season) but we still dey hear alert from Popi once in a while about them grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:52am On Mar 14, 2022
Jodera:
Lol, it's only trash because it doesn't align with your thoughts today. Hojberg pass is just an up through ball that's mostly triggered by strikers run. Kane was already making the run (seeing the space afforded) and hojberg (in sync) capitalized on it.

This is quite a foolish argument, as if Havertz wasn't making a run or as if any midfielder needs to see a run to know where to drop a through ball.

Havertz had started making his run ogbeni, and if Kane run was a trigger faster, that's because he knows what Hojberg will do having received numerous of those passes

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