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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Tvegas(m): 6:33pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Lovelygbems:if your firm have some level of integrity why are they rushing to start a business for wish the appropriate licence has not been issued? That alone is criminal. Nigeria is just one huge crime scene where everyone take the law into their hand. I challenged you or your colleagues months ago,Your firm started by selling undeveloped plots in remote areas and within the twinkle of an eye theyve moved into agritech ,hospitality, banking etc. This clamp down is long overdue. It was just another ponzi scheme packaged in a better way. 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Tvegas(m): 6:39pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
sonofElElyon:I hope you don't have your money in this company. Its not fair for them to start a business for which they haven't gotten the right approval that should be the right definition of fairness. Who are they that SEC will withhold merited approvals from them? 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by owolabi5: 8:15pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
emmanuelewumi: The bolded is apt sir To promise investors high % return on investments is very risky and quite unsustainable because the business climate is not always favourable. That is why approved investment houses/banks offer low % returns that certainly won't default. When I see high % returns from an unlicensed firm the red flag is obvious irrespective of the guise HY***P, CRY**TO, FOR***X, REAL ESTATE, ETC and almost certainly they default and run under simply because the model has never proved to be sustainable and it will never be! 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 8:18pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
owolabi5: High returns are possible but they are not guaranteed and can't be consistent. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:23pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Mpeace:I said it ,that when the dust settles the dollar and American banks will pay for it.Trust will be lost and countries may no longer see dollars as the currency for international trade only 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by owolabi5: 8:48pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
emmanuelewumi: Exactly my point sir |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Lovelygbems: 9:00pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Tvegas: What's your definition of a Ponzi scheme? Selling land and developing them gradually isn't a crime best to my knowledge And then, we didn't "rush"....we started and we WILLINGLY approached them for licensing. We did what was required and was awaiting approval. There was no provocation to warrant a clamp down |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by sonofElElyon: 9:02pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Tvegas: I don't have my money there. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by sonofElElyon: 9:06pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 9:27pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Lovelygbems:It is obvious you are not being truthful.You approached sec for what particular license.Your area of interest no get defined limits. Is it license to be jack of all trade and you expect approval .This was what killed cashcraft. This is how some businesses scam illiterates by telling them they have CAC no and quote it on the sign post/documents 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Tvegas(m): 9:34pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
Lovelygbems:its obvious your knowledge of corporate best practices is quite limited. The way it works is that law abiding fund managers submit themselves to regulatory agencies they don't ask for deposits or investments until they are duely licenced. Read more on regulatory frameworks as I won't waste my energy responding to you again. I repeat, the entire country is one HUGE CRIME SCENE. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by talk2me2: 10:01pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
dipoolowoo:Actually what they recommend is 1.6 cent ÷ 10 = 0.16 United States of America cent per share. When converted into the Nigeria currency is the equivalent of about 66 kobo per share. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by gbengafaro1986: 10:02pm On Mar 15, 2022 |
OK What would be likely effect on yields for a lot of financial institutions here that have dollar hedged investments like Eurobond Biafran4life: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by IYGEAL(m): 12:50am On Mar 16, 2022 |
sonofElElyon: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by hmohammed(m): 4:12am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Tvegas: Nigerians are wicked, dubious people |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Lovelygbems: 7:00am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Biafran4life: We run investment packages....one of the many financial instruments...that's what we seek approval for and not on any of our other businesses If you read the statement well, you'd see where we stated that we used to do it among a few people and share profits....it was when we started to go large scale we sought them out for approval Now, I feel I need to explain better what we do here to clear misconceptions... If you watch LIONS DEN on TVC, you would have a fair understanding of what we do.... As a holding company,we have controlling interests in these businesses A private equity it is because they have not gone public yet Now, what you call "jack of all trades" is what we call not putting our eggs in one basket.... These companies we target (both start ups and buy outs) are researched to be in key sectors such as oil and gas, dredging, real estate, Agriculture etc Now, you say high interest rates....but is it high interest rate without the right time value? For example, I ask you to Invest 10m in our petrochemical to pay you interest and capital back in two years..... In just one of our sales outlets, we can get this money in a week....not to talk of two years Again, i ask you to invest same amount in our pepper farm in one year....pepper matures in 3 months.....we would have gotten profits four times over before we share with investors Are these not viable businesses? Can you call them Ponzi? These are not audio businesses....they exist and are functioning well The idea of having many again is not to have our eggs in one basket. Believe it or not, we have thousands of investors we are accountable to It isn't possible that all these businesses won't bring in profit at thesame time.... So we understand the business space quite well Those that have gone under probably didn't diversity well or have a strong and experienced management team We are not a one to two man business....we have a team of experts in our top management team.....those who have attended world class business schools We are striving to be the exception....and we would continue to do so |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by handsomebolanle: 7:11am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: I'm so sorry.. Not to mean you ain't telling the truth....but just that I've heard this kind of rinsed formats many many times They all ended in tears Good luck to your business and investors. 8 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 7:50am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: In other words your company is trying to raise venture capital from the public. "Unsecured loans provided to start-up companies and businesses that may not be able to get traditional loans are called venture capital." Here are requirements for registration as VC managers: https://sec.gov.ng/check-lists/requirements-for-registration-as-venture-capital-managers/ From my small research VC funding comes with serious Risks which I hope are addressed in the registration requirements, hence it's very wrong to sell these "investment packages" to the public without proper licensing. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by IYGEAL(m): 7:52am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: All these Petrochemical, Agric and real estate jargons are what the likes of Afolabi of EatRich and Ijioma of Chinmark of this world used to milk people's funds to the tone of billions before coming up with now stale but similar stories of having some kind of difficulties and eventually running away, virtually unscathed. I understand folks have found this route a fast way to become really rich by means of preying on people's financial ignorance. In no distant time, promoters like you would flood social media with countless giveaways (with investors' money of course), hiring and firing - including even snatching people's wives in the name of faux investment haven. Pa Emma made a suggestion which you have carefully not responded to: why pay individual investors huge returns when you can get more for less from banks? Simple answer: banks aren't as gullible as your target investors because they would ask relevant questions and demand documentations which you will obviously find disturbing as they'd be bad for your business. The law and its enforcers have managed to make a sum total of zero progress in punishing perpetrators, that's why orchestrators like you keep on rebranding and coming up with fresh nomenclature immediately after the demise of one. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Lovelygbems: 8:11am On Mar 16, 2022 |
IYGEAL: And where do banks get funds from?? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 8:19am On Mar 16, 2022 |
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by kolaish(m): 8:36am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems:@Lovelygbems, I need to let you know once and for all, that nobody here know you personally and intentionally want to discredit you or your organization. But please note that the people you are talking to here are seasoned financial analyst and gurus that have seen it all. Some people here have been in this financial and investment climate for over 3 decades including yours truly. The truth is that NO REASONABLE BUSINESS operates without due approval from appropriate authority. I like your aggresive marketing and loyalty to your employee, but then I do not think the company you are promoting is worth it, because when the jungle matures the promoters will run away and leave you in a quagmire. Please stop defending the company here and channel your energy to better use. I wish you good luck in your endeavours. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Lovelygbems: 8:36am On Mar 16, 2022 |
ositadima1: Interesting....a red flag is pointing out that individuals put their money into banks?? Like banks don't have a team that meets individuals for funds?? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 8:43am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: Boring... I know banks are closely regulated by the CBN. Who regulates your business model? 8 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:44am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems:.From what you have said I want to believe the licence you applied concerning the investment branch of your holdco is for fund manager. That is good,which I know sec will not give you approval if you don't meet the requirements I am asking this particular question because it was Christmas last year when I was on vacation trip my wife was praising chinmak group,that the CEO is even now her mentor on Facebook.And he told me how they are into everything and making progress. Your post yesterday redirected me via a link by someone here to discover chinmak has closed shop and I said what the hell and even my wife didn't know about it . Now,my question is this. What makes all you have said about your holdco different from chinmak ?And the public should believe it will not go under looking at this your unrealistic roi As I notice this multi businesses was equally what they claimed they do even outside the country 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Hedgefunds: 8:48am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: You are not licensed to request or sell investment package to the public. https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-59607451.amp Maxwell Odum same process. N213bn fraud...Also claim to be into Trading / Investment package. Thousands of Agrictech gone awoof with investors money. mostly Fools And greedy people will give there money to you people . It will End in Tears. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:53am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: You seem to be a marketing employee. How can you pay back money you took from investors in just 1 week from one of your sales outlets? Then it shows that it is a Ponzi scheme. And that you are not well versed with what the business you represent are really doing. It is advisable to just take loans from banks and do this business. Since you pay your investors interest, you can as well pass these interests to the banks. Subsequently you can pay the banks back after 1 week from your sales. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 9:02am On Mar 16, 2022 |
RabbiDoracle:Oga I hail you. Any change of thought concerning the market.Do we still expect up movement for the year or just flat expectations. I personally don't see down movement generally maybe on individual stocks |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by freeman67: 9:11am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Hmmm.... Thank God there are seasoned investors here to test what whatever 'investment' advertised in the interest of all so no one will fall except those not willing to listen. However, @Lovelygbems if you are not part of the founders and owners of this investment you are vigorously marketing here, please do not market it to your family members, friends and neighbours. You may become their enemy for life when the proprietors of the investment decides to close shop and jet out to either Paris, Dubai or the Carribbean Island as they always do. For the avoidance of doubt, in addition to the names already mentioned you can Google or even search the names below on Nairaland here. Their marketers did more than you are doing now but at the end, it is what it is..... Brisk Capital Limited MBA Forex... AddyFinance & Investments Limited Imagine Global Solution Limited. Wales Kingdom Capital Quintessential Investment Company The map.ng 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 9:13am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Biafran4life: Market is bullish. All Emerging market. The seed has been sown long ago. F - 50 U - 40 G - 90 A - 60 Z - 75 2Fs - 15 And many more. This is a possibility based on TA. Impossible is nothing. Do your due diligence. 7 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 9:30am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: Yoruba will say enú dun to rò efò............ Ar this stage of ur marketing one has to paint out the avatar of whom you are expecting to fall for this......You all are targeting newbies and the young that don’t understand Business into this , no seasoned contributor to this thread from inception will fall for this If u are new especially to investment and you don’t understand the jargons Ogas of this thread are talking about better follow the axoim “If it sounds too good to be true Walahi In this Nigeria IT CAN NEVER BE TRUE” Premium Tears awaits u 7 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by IYGEAL(m): 9:48am On Mar 16, 2022 |
Lovelygbems: There goes the mundane answer; the same pushed by Russia's Mavrodi of well known establishment. 1 Like |
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