I already alluded to the bolded.Some men love intelligent ladies and would love to hear their wife's input.
However, when he senses constant impolite disagreement, he's likely to stop anything that encourages it.

You keep mentioning insecurity, but do you know most ladies standing up to their husbands have complex and are the insecure ones? There are easy ways to make your husband respect you. Attitude is everything.
Except for transformed individuals, Women seem to love the "bad" guys more. Those that act like, "if you like you can go", "I'm only obligated to do these because you're now with me"...

I have seen men who won't praise their wives in their presence but praise them to the high heavens when with friends.You can't blame them,I personal believe most women allow praises get to their head unlike men.

Blunttruth:


How does she show how stupid the man is? Sometimes it's the men's insecurities that makes him imagine things and read meaning to the most harmless statements. Even when it's matters that are just general topics once the woman's opinion differs ,it's a problem. Submission doesn't mean a woman should not air her opinion on matters. You air your opinion with politely, if the man does not accept it then you go along with him, but it will be on record that you objected. Next time he will ask you or such your opinion of he is wise.

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Senomi:
Most nigerian girls are vampires, just that they feed on money instead of blood

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From this moment on, you’ve been banned from food section!
If I catch you there ehn…
Na when you see food, you dey form better person.
By then, Nigerian girls go turn wife material.

Senomi:
Great IQ abeg, I dey already make plans with one, she dey give me peace of mind, she's all I honestly need right now

How you take measure her IQ?
With your own?

inumidun2010:
1. So SUBMISSION is a CURSE right?... Everybody just MISQUOTING the SCRIPTURES to suit their WARPED MIND.... Mind you, SUBMISSION wasnt meant for WOMEN alone, the SCRIPTURES talked about SUBMISSION to AUTHORITIES...

SUBMISSION in MARRIAGE was never part of the MOSAIC LAW, MARRIAGE is OLDER than THE LAW...
Gal.3.13 - Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
This PORTION of the SCRIPTURES was making reference to the MOSAIC law that states that CURSED IS ANY MAN HUNG ON A TREE..

Deut.21.22 - And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
Deut.21.23 - His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

2. NO DEY MISYARN SCRIPTURES , YOU HEAR...
if you CHOOSE not to SUBMIT to your HUSBAND, it DOESNT AFFECT ME... but it will AFFECT ME IF , you twist the WORD OF GOD to JUSTIFY YOUR INADEQUACIES.... PEACE

1. In Genesis 3 vs 16, God Himself placed a submission curse on marriage. Then God sent Jesus Christ to redeem men and their marriage from the very same curses recorder in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 - His offers for salvation is from this curse.

The same Jesus Christ then goes on to tell His followers that in the Kingdom of God, He alone is the Head/Master, Teacher, Shepherd etc., to which His followers are to submit to - stipulation that they are all equal under Him.

2. Open that book intelligently so you can understand how you can't bow to God and the opinions of men at the same time.

Shevchenkko:
Very rare to find in Nigeria now

The reason for that is IQ and submission are mutually exclusive.

Streetbabah:
It's a dilemma choosing to marry between a spouse with good character and submissiveness who relies on you to make 80% of all decisions.... And a spouse with high IQ of great intellects whom u can discuss anything with be it business politics and so on with who is also a self starter... people's opinions are needed

it takes a woman with high IQ to know her role in the family , that's what submissiveness is all about.

Senomi:

Guy forget am, when you see game wey go cut you go know, unless say u be strong headed manchester city fan

Guy! No such thing as a sure game. You suppose know.

Zonefree:
It takes a lady with Great IQ to be submissive.

Have you seen a feminist with an IQ above 2 before?

Dont mind the @Poster that is asking a really dumb question!

Women who are intelligent, who have high I.Q, who are successful and have self dignity, have No Prolemo respecting their Husbands or any man for that matter and they also get respect in return.

It is the Woorwor-Face, empty head, No future ambition types who have nothing to show, that are always trying to instigate a gender-fight against men, to make-up for their lack of intellect and internal ugliness.

Our guys will always chose submissive ladies with no brains maybe because most of them can't match up with a high IQ lady. They believe a lady with high IQ will challenge them and they will appear dumb most of the time.
But real men with high IQ will go for women of high IQ because they know the value of such women.
They know that a woman with high IQ can still be submissive around a responsible man who knows that women should be treated right. But a submissive woman may never grow and IQ let along having a high IQ.
Won't respond to men with low IQ who may decide to call me demeaning names cos they feel attacked.

ginggerxy:
it takes a woman with high IQ to know her role in the family , that's what submissiveness is all about.

Wrong! A woman or man with high IQ would never want to submit in anyway or form to another human being - man or woman.

Kobojunkie:


1. In Genesis 3 vs 16, God Himself placed a submission curse on marriage. Then God sent Jesus Christ to redeem men and their marriage from the very same curses recorder in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 - His offers for salvation is from this curse.

The same Jesus Christ then goes on to tell His followers that in the Kingdom of God, He alone is the Head/Master, Teacher, Shepherd etc., to which His followers are to submit to - stipulation that they are all equal under Him.

2. Open that book intelligently so you can understand how you can't bow to God and the opinions of men at the same time.

Well, to start with, GOD placed CURSE on MAN, and not MARRIAGE...It was MAN who SINNED not the INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE....

MARRIAGE was not DEVISED by MAN , GOD was the CHIEF- PLANNING OFFICER....

JESUS redeemed MAN from the CURSE of the LAW.. THERES NOTHING LIKE CURSE OF MARRIAGE.... MOSES BROUGHT THE LAW, MARRIAGE existed before MOSES...

When it comes to these things, its a spectrum.

My preferred spectrum: 60% IQ 40% submissive.

I don't need a door mat. She can disagree with me so long as it is done respectfully. She must not be careless with her mouth.
I have been with a veeeery dumb and submissive woman before and I don't want that for my self or my children.

Everything falls on you. You cannot even delegate important things to her to manage, because you cannot trust that she has the good sense to perform it without your direct oversight. That's no way to run a family.

It is good to know that certain things are being handled without your direct management of said thing.
I want to be able to travel for business while knowing that all is well at home because the commanding officer while I am away is not dumb.

The OP framed the question in a very bad way.
He makes it look like a submissive woman is dull, which is not the case.
Your comment further pushes that way of thinking, that a woman who is submissive is dull.

Anyway to each his own.

MISSCONGENIALITY:
Our guys will always chose submissive ladies with no brains maybe because most of them can't match up with a high IQ lady. They believe a lady with high IQ will challenge them and they will appear dumb most of the time.
But real men with high IQ will go for women of high IQ because they know the value of such women.
They know that a woman with high IQ can still be submissive around a responsible man who knows that women should be treated right. But a submissive woman may never grow and IQ let along having a high IQ.
Won't respond to men with low IQ who may decide to call me demeaning names cos they feel attacked.

Who go marry us wey no Dey submissive bayi (pulling my hair and shedding hot tears on the road )

Why look for one when you can have both. A high IQ woman will be submissive to a high IQ man.

wallrichy:
Woman with Great IQ will be submissive cos she's intelligent to know the value of being submissive. I love great IQ women that can discuss politics, sciences, arts and world in general. Even though, you might not know everything but just have a good idea of what it's all about. A woman that can teach the children their school homework once in a while when am not available. A woman that is ever ready to build up on her achievement and not mine. A Oliver twist when her success and achievements is concerned, always wanting to achieve success in her endeavours....that's my queen..

Exactly. Plus your kids are going to be smart because kids usually inherit their mother’s intelligence

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! A woman or man with high IQ would never want to submit in anyway or form to another human being - man or woman.

being intelligent does not equate to going to school. Being arrogant does not equate to being intelligent. To me knowing your role in any relationship and playing it right is what submissiveness means and not really being dumb and willing to take anything thrown at you.

angelfallz:
The OP framed the question in a very bad way.
He makes it look like a submissive woman is dull, which is not the case.
Your comment further pushes that way of thinking, that a woman who is submissive is dull.

Anyway to each his own.

That's why i added that a woman with high IQ can still be submissive with the right man by her.

macrodata:
Why not strive for a woman with great IQ that's submissive? Yes, they are out there.

you now added strive....

Oh sorry, I must have missed that part.

MISSCONGENIALITY:
That's why i added that a woman with high IQ can still be submissive with the right man by her.

A wife with IQ can still be submissive! Tm

Why don't women ask these same questions, seeing as men aren't intelligent as much as they think women aren't?

The way men ask these dumb questions you would think intelligence is criteria for only women when there are many dumb, low IQed men with such debates.

When will women begin to marry men with high IQs?

Streetbabah:
It's a dilemma choosing to marry between a spouse with good character and submissiveness who relies on you to make 80% of all decisions.... And a spouse with high IQ of great intellects whom u can discuss anything with be it business politics and so on with who is also a self starter... people's opinions are needed

Bad character spoils every intelligence or ability or gift a spouse has to bring to the table. Give me a submissive wife and I'll create a woman with will marvel the world.

What kills me about this submission thing is the only men I’ve seen demanding it like their lives depend on it are insecure, broke and have nothing going on for them and only seek a sense of relevance from the women they are romantically involved with. Most can’t even guide themselves to make reasonable live changing decisions, but you want me to submit myself to you. Real case of a blind man leading.
See them willing to substitute IQ for “submission”. It’s hilarious. Unna go Dey alright.

inumidun2010:
1. Well, to start with, GOD placed CURSE on MAN, and not MARRIAGE...It was MAN who SINNED not the INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE....

MARRIAGE was not DEVISED by MAN , GOD was the CHIEF- PLANNING OFFICER....

2. JESUS redeemed MAN from the CURSE of the LAW.. THERES NOTHING LIKE CURSE OF MARRIAGE.... MOSES BROUGHT THE LAW, MARRIAGE existed before MOSES...

Again, stop reading that book upside down. .

1. In Genesis 3 vs 16(a) you are told by God that the curse only applies to men and women in marriage meaning that curse is on marriage and does not affect those who are not in marriage.

2. There is no such thing as the curse of the Law so i suggest you review these silly ideas and beliefs you hold to since they have no meaning.

The curse Jesus Christ came to save(Salvation) from is the condemnation of sin aka Death and this is as defined by God in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 this as explained in the Gospels starting in John 3 vs 16 - 21.

ginggerxy:
being intelligent does not equate to going to school. Being arrogant does not equate to being intelligent. To me knowing your role in any relationship and playing it right is what submissiveness means and not really being dumb and willing to take anything thrown at you.

As I already tried several times to explain at this point, a high IQ is not a measure of your intelligence but instead a measure of your ability to apply critical reasoning skills in situations. Where intelligence and submission can coexist, great IQ and submission cannot coexist this since these are mutually exclusive ideas.

The idea of roles on relationships, for instance, may make sense to the intelligent, but such things become easily meaningless as you go up the IQ quotient rule, this since individuals with high IQ value such things as equality and individual responsibility higher than an individual's gender claims.

Cutehector:
There has never been a woman who was shown excess love and pampered well who didnt submit naturally..

Pamper these girls brothers, make dem loved and give them hot sex, they will submit naturally.

ur very right bruv....except say she no love you

macrodata:
Why not strive for a woman with great IQ that's submissive? Yes, they are out there.

I can show you a unicorn if you want. This one is blue

lolu2019:
She should keep her iq.submissiveness is d real deal.i am d manager of d house.

I have both in my wife

Blunttruth:


Great IQ, is a no brainer. But people who are insecure and can't stand being around someone like that will opt for the submissive dumb one. Think about the kids you will have, don't let your ego make you have a 50/50 chance of having a dumb child.

Leave us with our insecurities, send us submissive women please

illumined999333:
Submissive spouse it is for me.
When I was younger, I was very interested in how smart a girl is. Yes smart women are cool, but I don't want a woman who wouldn't listen to me cos she thinks she is right.

Smart women actually have a mind of their own, and this could be good. But sometimes, even when they are wrong, they fail to take corrections cos they do not think they are wrong.

ur right bruv.....my own be say,as long as she can construct simple English an express herself well, am good to go....to hell with IQ