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| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 2:53am On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:In politics ,you have to reach out to other nationalities,you have to beg,make friend and build trust.even afenifere supports igbo presidency,but i can tell you for free,the politicans do not know what they are doing.Allowing restructuring to take place and you can now contest ,it will not be attractive anymore.once its properly done. You dont have the numbers to win ,only rotimi amaechi can make an impact.he can gather some votes. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by allcomage: 4:30am On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:How then are some boasting that if apc zones presidency to the south, Tinubu would win when Olufalaye didn't in 1999. The sw is about to embark on a wild long political journey. Most of you have said that the 11 states of sess are irrelevant in winning elections, 2023 beckons, good luck to Yoruba apc and congratulations in advance for winning Nigeria presidency. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:04am On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:restructioring is desired by all,was it GEJ that scuttled the implementation of the confab submission or vested northern interests? you forget that the national assembly has a role to play in any constitutional amendment. Rotimi Amaechi is viewed as a traitor by his own people, asides his political journeymen in choba and environs, amaechi is a pariah in rivers state talk less of the rest of the southsouth and southeast, if he is popular enough in the remaining four geopolitical regions of country to give him the victory your guess is as good as mine |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:16am On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:it wasn't a spoiler game. At least not in 1979, Igbo's were recovering from the civil war and had little to no political aspirations at the center, but they had regional interests on easy conduct of business, as I wasn't alive then, i take my parents account of it, they called awolowo foolish in his declaration to ban imports, they said that before that statement Igbo's were neither for or against awolowo, how is that a betrayal of Yorubas if the candidate was a honest idiot who vowed to work against your interests by banning the import and trade in second hand goods? If igbos voted for obasonjo against olu falae both yorubas and obasonjo against buhari where is the spoiling happening? But a Yoruba vote against GEJ without any policy issue affecting them negatively at stake is the real definition of spoiling, an act of malice and an act of hatred |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:19am On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:i don't know about that but if the southeast voted against him then the numbers do not add up in his favour |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:28am On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:that is your take, my parents were alive then and can be adjudged politically neutral so I will go with their analysis, if igbos were told to believe all that you claimed when they know for a fact that Gowon was president then I guess the propaganda machine didn't start yesterday, but truth is all that couldn't be made to stick to awolowo as he was only in an advisory role in government, the executive positions were taken by northerners so a shagari presidency would have offended their sensitivities, i go with my parents analysis of awolowo being an honest idiot who alienated the southeast from him by his campaign utterances giving the opposition ammunition to use against him |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:47am On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:the British used southerners and mainly northcentral minorities in the pre-independence Nigerian army because they postulated that the proliferation of intercenine warfare made the men from these areas good soldiers fodder, the officer corps came from educated southerners, the advent of the core north into the military only came after independence where unqualified dunces like the buharis and shagaris were taken in in a progrom driven by tafawa balewa for his northern agenda, i thought this was common history or don't they teach Nigerian history in schools anymore? |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 7:06am On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Shagari was not solider ,the british used hausa soliders to fight other ethnic nationslitord in history because the british always identify the martial tribe and the people that gave them.problems to conquer.The southereners were recruited into the army for admi istrative purposes,and not combat.Tbe people called the pag an tribe from the north were later recruited so as to have a balanced army. They later created elite schools like that of Eton in england ,called Barewa college ,so has to groom and train the leaders of Nigeria,the school produced 4 heads of state. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 7:24am On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Awolowo did all that for a purpose while he was a finance minister.Ojukuwu looted the central bamk in benin,so he changed the currency,what was bad in changing the currency to control the money in circulation and protect your countries currency during a war? Awolowo went on inspection of the parts of eastern Nigeria during negotiation and saw people with kwashikor while the soliders and elites were very fat.What do you expect ,food that was meant for the people were diverted and captured by biafran soliders what do you expect him to do in a war.They stopped supplies. 20 pounds policy,after the war he told all igbos to go to the national bank of Nigeria,all igbos with deposits before the war,to write their names and amount they had in the bank.To the government suprise the names and amount written,was more that the whole deposit in all the nigerian banks at that time.people write tbeir names just to collect money.So awolowo decided to make sure it goes round by giving everyone a flat rate of 20 pounds.since then ,i have never heard the truth from any igbo person ,about what led to it.Only the wrong and emotional stories. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 8:11am On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:I think its morally okay,to support the region that supports you.After the civil war the west was the first to welcome easterners,accepted them rented there house to them gave them there property back.You use the hospitals,schools markets and because millionares.so is it not normal,that you will support such people politically,which will advance their region,and inturn further improve the life of the igbos that land every hour in places like lagos and ibadan. , |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 8:14am On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Can you send the link to the speech awolowo made to ban imports of these items?Thanks,even if its true does that not make sense?used clothings!Nigeria already was ahead of many countries in all areas of textile production. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 1:04pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:i will search but I make no promises, I believe awolowo had our local textile industry in mind when he made that campaign promise but it was against the vested interests of Igbo traders heavily invested in it and their dependents so the opposition ran with it and blew it out of proportion as is expected |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 1:19pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:be that as it may, awolowo wasn't the primary or even one of the biggest villains of their civil war woes, general shagari, relative to shehu i think by virtue of being a Fulani wartime enemy qualified as a bigger villain if we Want to use emotion over logic, I'm not saying elements of that sentiment wasn't there but logic will say business interests of the day was the determinant factor |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 1:44pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:oga which history books did you read? British colonisation started from the coast then through river routes via the oil rivers courtesy of the royal Niger company, soldiers were exclusively from southern and middlebelt stock as the sokoto caliphate was at war with the royal Niger company, lord lugard himself went on this campaign and was in command when the walls of kano and rano were breached! Hausas were hardly part of that army oga, and when they became part of the army they were admitted in trickles, the colonial army was southern and middlebeltan and the officer corps largely southern, don't mistake the current Nigerian army with the British colonial army of Nigeria we had at independence, that army was professional, our current army is mediocre by comparison. I know shagari wasn't a soldier but one of his close relatives made it to general in the army, I think he was a couple of years ahead of buhari, he is late now, I have no arguments about barewa college but power staying in the north and the underdevelopment of Nigeria served British interests so they created barewa college so that the largely uneducated north would start producing people to go into the Nigerian civil service dominated by educated southerners and water down the effect of southern pan-africanists inimical to British post colonial interests, |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 1:46pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
olas24u:the mistake you make is in seeing the southeastern vote against awolowo as a vote against the southwest when it simply is a policy repudiation vote |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 3:50pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Seems you have mixed it up, expeditions started before merchandising and colonization,the portuguese and the arabs came before the british.The northners were called mohammadians by the british people.They already had islam through the arabs before the british came,they met usman dan fodio ,who had conquered the north and installed emirs .Nigeria use to be 2 countries , nigeria river area which is the south and mohammadians which was the core north and the pagans who where in chibok and tiv areas.colonization was not sudden they started through a business ,Mr Goldie owned the royal Niger company He later sold nigeria ,he was the one that employed lugard.places were conqured in bits. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 3:54pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:That followed a pattern till date,so you can reach a conclusion from historical facts.Tinubu has never been governor in eastern Nigeria ,he has only been a senator and governor in Lagos but the hatred from the easterners need to researched in schools. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by FreedomfromtheT: 5:42pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
potent5:You made a valid point. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by FreedomfromtheT: 5:43pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
ivandragon:That is it. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by FreedomfromtheT: 5:48pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
How can that be? The Southeasterners are interested only in having the Republic of Biafra, stretching from the Benue Basin to the creeks of the Niger Delta, with all the solid and "watery" minerals in and above the ground. They may take offence if you offer them president of the ZOO! Take heed to thyself!And should they continue to remain citizens of the 'ZOO' beyond 2023, then nothing stops a competent person from among them from being the president of the 'ZOO' country for justice, peace, progress and unity of the 'ZOO'. Thanks. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by FreedomfromtheT: 5:53pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
So you'll find the mind to vote for another Fulani in 2023 in spite of present realities just to spite a Yoruba amongst whose people your own people live peacefully and where they conduct their businesses without fear of molestation? There's no other place in Nigeria apart from the Southeast where the Igbo are safer apart from Western Nigeria!Sir, it is not about spiting my in-laws, the Yoruba. It is about the double standard of saying the North have have had their turn, that it should go to the Yoruba who had and have equally had their turn but the Igbo who are yet to have either president or vice should be denied. Doesn't it smack of hypocrisy and double standard? |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:04pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
olas24u:do you think the hatred of Tinubu is from southeasterners alone? I am from the south south, i was born in Lagos, i grew up in Lagos, asides my tertiary education, schooling was entirely in Lagos, most of my working life has been in Lagos, i have real estate and business investments in lagos, i am an atypical lagosian by default, if i can't have an opinion albeit a negative opiñion of Tinubu then who can? Correct me if i am wrong but you are of the school of thought that i have to be ethnic Yoruba to qualify to have a stake in how Lagos is governed despite the fact that i vote there or in the presidential aspirations of Tinubu who is a character hated across Nigeria in retrospect in view of his unrepentant role in the fostering o buhari as president while he paid lip service without actual condemnation to the Fulani perpetrated genocide across Nigeria because he was protecting his future presidential aspirations by protecting his standing witj the fulani president while tens of thousands of Nigerians were being murdered by roving fulanis with a Fulani compromised military aiding and abetting the murderers, same was repeated by him at the #ENDSARS protests and he Tinubu sincerely believes buhari's support is all he needs to become president like the rest of us are inconsequential and you're busy accusing igbos doing what the rest of us are doing in rejecting a vile, useless, worthless vermin of an individual with high opinions of himself! Look many of us might disagree on who we support but we are almost majorly agreed on who we don't support |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 6:11pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
olas24u:we are discussing in terms of our(Nigerian) military history and its ethnic composition and as such it must start with colonisation/conquest and before that our history with those who did the colonisation/conquest and as such we are talking about the British/Nigerian history which started with slave trade at the coasts to the royal Niger company after abolition and then the protectorates at the coasts to the missionaries and finally colonial conquests prior to the turn of the 19th century |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by Jomonix: 6:24pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
lloydtruth:Well said |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 6:59pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Igbos are like that ,infact there minds can easily be manipulated Awo ,tinubu,Buhari, you can see the trend .But no yoruba in return hate any easterner for any reason.You own a property in Lagos ,does not make you a citizen of Lagos,you are an investor and a resident of Lagos.Only few people hate tinubu and they are the real indigenes of Lagos, such as people like Bode george.Nobody expected what he did and the real citizens did not benefit expect few .He had a plan to be president,so he made citizens of other states accross Nigeria dominated the civil service.you can vote in Lagos,but you cannot do what you like ,igbos are not the only people in lagos,we have the south south people in ajegunle,the hausa fulani people in mile 12, Agege,the ilaja,s ,all in lagos.Out of all this group,it was an igbo man that first mentioned that Lagos was a no mansland.His name is jaja nwachukwu. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 7:01pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Igbos are like that ,infact there minds can easily be manipulated Awo ,tinubu,Buhari, you can see the trend .But no yoruba in return hate any easterner for any reason.You own a property in Lagos ,does not make you a citizen of Lagos,you are an investor and a resident of Lagos.Only few people hate tinubu and they are the real indigenes of Lagos, such as people like Bode george.Nobody expected what he did and the real citizens did not benefit expect few .He had a plan to be president,so he made citizens of other states accross Nigeria to dominate the civil service.you can vote in Lagos,but you cannot do what you like ,igbos are not the only people in lagos,we have the south south people in ajegunle,the hausa fulani people in mile 12, Agege,the ilaja,s ,all in lagos.Out of all this group,it was an igbo man that first mentioned that Lagos was a no mansland.His name is jaja nwachukwu. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 7:07pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:South south people donot have any problems with yorubas infact from the 1st republic ,we always align ,2nd and 3rd republic it was the same thing.They collect money higher than all other states ,they have 13% derivation,so what problem will they have with tinubu. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 7:15pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
olas24u:we don't have problems with Yorubas but we do with Tinubu, this is a dichotomy you should accept is 1. Possible 2. Real Understand that many people from across Nigeria live in Lagos and see what is in effect a monopoly of economy and politics by one man despite appearances and protestations in Lagos and think yorubas too weak to permit that and would never tolerate it to happen to them and secondly, Tinubu brought buhari, despite the bloodshed across Nigeria by buhari's fulanis Tinubu won't condemn him openly because of his ambitions, we see that too. We are of the opinion that Tinubu's ambitions shouldn't be worth the life of a single Nigerian, buhari is hated and Tinubu can not be disassociated from him |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by GalaticHorde: 7:24pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
olas24u:your logic doesn't apply to this discourse, when census is conducted, will Lagos state approve of me travelling back to delta state to get counted? Doesn't Lagos state frown on northerners who travel back to their state of origin during election period to vote as this skews voter statistics against them? If the state should want me to be counted as a resident during census, want me to vote here during election, want me to work and invest and by extension pay taxes here, then it should be my lack of indegene status that should stop me from having a say or an opinion in the state where I was born or grew up shebi? In that case, I don't oppose Tinubu contesting for presidency of Lagos since you surmised I have little stake there and also know yorubas have investments in the Niger delta, I hope you agree they shouldn't have any say in governance in that region after all they are mere investors |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by olas24u(f): 8:16pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
GalaticHorde:Lol!Dangote is on of the biggest investor in Lagos ,he is from kano and a resident of lagos and citizen of Nigeria.Vaswani brothers ,chargouri,s ,Thankashi changal, chellerams ,are all residents of lagos ,citizens of Nigeria ,india and lebanon.They have a stake in the business environment and infastruture through the manufacturer association of Nigeria.we are talking politically now,the governance of the state are not connected with the business of the state .Nigerdelta people are very okay with yorubas ,they normally dont have any problems at all in lagos.The only time we heard of the nigerdelta people was when they wanted to demolish ajegunle. |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by Cajal(m): 9:54pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
Achuwa1:Is TINUBU blocking them from contesting? Ahhhh This younger generation |
| Re: Peller To Atiku: Only An Enemy Of Nigeria Will Want Power To Remain In The North by TheRealGap: 11:41pm On Mar 25, 2022 |
fergie001:Same South that rallied against South president(Goodluck) hypocrite everywhere! I believe a selfish Southerner will not want Presidency to go the South eastern part.��� |
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