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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by SKIBiNSKI(m): 9:52am On Mar 30, 2022
Loewe:


Yep. I feel like Russia knew they had Europe by the balls before being so bold to invade a sovereign nation. They knew it would come to sanctions and they knew the gas would give them a political and economic edge...

Some countries have openly said they won't boycott Russian gas, why? Cos they have no other option... If they did, they would have long boycotted Russia's gas.
Europe can not live without Russian gas, they can pretend they don't need russia but they do. Now they are running around begging for gas/oil from the Arabs (Dubai) Dubai who executed 81 innocent citizens of their country including africans last week. What is the difference between Russia and Dubai? Did you also know that the
son of a former Russian spy who is Putin's friend is a member of parliament in the UK. His name is Lord Lebedev. Why did the
UK government not sanctions him? (But they claimed to sanction Abramovich) Or remove him from UK house of lords? This so called Russian invasion of Ukraine has being political. Did you know that the UK is still buying Russian gas till today. The UK's chancellor's wife owns a company in Russia as of today. People need to wake up to Europe's and the UK's hyporcricies. Nigeria should be worried rather that the UK may invade nigeria and cause conflicts so as to take over and control nigerian oil.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by alabo1: 9:53am On Mar 30, 2022
seunny4lif:
Ruble is now less than 90 to Dollar from 135 since Russia made the announcement of Petrol-Ruble.

USA fought and killed many head of states that tried to change from Petrol-Dollar for the past 50 years but in just 3 weeks Biden destroyed that dream by banned Russia from access Dollars.

Hungary PM said Solidarity with Ukraine will not heat or put food on the table for Hungarians, with or without EU, Hungary need gas and no country can provide it for them except Russia.

Russia and China have been looking for way out of Dollar as way of doing businesses but it was hard for them, now they don’t even have to worry about it again.

When we will have United Africa leaders that will do things like this, we can’t be selling our resources Dollars or Euros or Pounds.
We need our own money here, we even if it’s west Africa currency or maybe we should all option for Naira grin or Cedi because CFA is a big NO, France control that money.
We need vision leaders here

That was Gaddafis vision.A true visionary killed by the west to maintain their hegemony. My joy is at the end of this crisis the unipolar world and the dollar depenence for international trade will end. Already saudi arabia and china are commencing yuan/riyal payments while india and russia have commenced rubles/rupee payments. The western hypocrisy is much. You freeze Russian assets abroad (even those of private citizens) due to a so called invasion not linked to you and that is not a breach of contract? Russia has not waged war on Britain,France, New Zealand, Australia or Germany yet had assets frozen including their sovereign reserves and that was fair. Now due to the sanctions you have placed She is insisting in ruble payment and you are crying breach of contract. Nonsense

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by ledaman: 9:53am On Mar 30, 2022
BKayy:
Then they will have two options
1. Either watch their citizens freeze to death next winter and their countries turned into a war front by riots OR....
2. Invade Russia and take the gas by force.
Who will dire Russia with such effontry?

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by baralatie(m): 9:54am On Mar 30, 2022
toprealman:
Putin is playing dumb here. He is pushing a people that invest so much on research and innovation. Boys are not smiling. That gas will soon become useless......biofuel research teams smiling.
Okay so
You want Germany to freeze to death till when biofuel becomes sustainable that it powers the whole of Europe!
No problem

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by seunny4lif(m): 9:55am On Mar 30, 2022
kiddkash:

west Africa tried with a single currency called Eco. they tried implementing it January last year, but France didn't allow it, because they said they colonized many countries in West Africa, they are speaking French and are using CFa.

google it for yourself to find out the truth
I know about CFA-France since 2003 when OBJ tried to make us use ECOWAS money.
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by angelfallz(m): 9:56am On Mar 30, 2022
Also US consumes most of its gas. The US does not have enough gas for Europe
baralatie:

Russia pumps it's gas through pipelines to Europe .it removes all kinds of costs thereby making it cheap.
Also because of the cost of production of Russia gas(it cannot be beaten to it by any gas producing nation)


Us gas mostly will be shipped(guess how much that will cost)

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Help2020: 9:56am On Mar 30, 2022
seunny4lif:
Ruble is now less than 90 to Dollar from 135 since Russia made the announcement of Petrol-Ruble.

USA fought and killed many head of states that tried to change from Petrol-Dollar for the past 50 years but in just 3 weeks Biden destroyed that dream by banned Russia from access Dollars.

Hungary PM said Solidarity with Ukraine will not heat or put food on the table for Hungarians, with or without EU, Hungary need gas and no country can provide it for them except Russia.

Russia and China have been looking for way out of Dollar as way of doing businesses but it was hard for them, now they don’t even have to worry about it again.

When we will have United Africa leaders that will do things like this, we can’t be selling our resources Dollars or Euros or Pounds.
We need our own money here, we even if it’s west Africa currency or maybe we should all option for Naira grin or Cedi because CFA is a big NO, France control that money.
We need vision leaders here
Ghana non be our friend.
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by DropsMic(m): 9:56am On Mar 30, 2022
seunny4lif:


When we will have United Africa leaders that will do things like this, we can’t be selling our resources Dollars or Euros or Pounds.
We need our own money here, we even if it’s west Africa currency or maybe we should all option for Naira grin or Cedi because CFA is a big NO, France control that money.
We need vision leaders here

We are blacks. We live in Africa, the playground of the west. Even if an African country manage get visionary leader it won't take the white man anything to have him killed. All they need do is look for someone in his cabinet or military to do the job (their usual modus operandi) and because there's none as greedy as the black man, they will always find that someone.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by baralatie(m): 9:56am On Mar 30, 2022
angelfallz:
Also US consumes most of its gas. The US does not have enough gas for Europe
Chai!
Europe has entered this one!

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Nobody: 9:57am On Mar 30, 2022
seunny4lif:
Ruble is now less than 90 to Dollar from 135 since Russia made the announcement of Petrol-Ruble.

USA fought and killed many head of states that tried to change from Petrol-Dollar for the past 50 years but in just 3 weeks Biden destroyed that dream by banned Russia from access Dollars.

Hungary PM said Solidarity with Ukraine will not heat or put food on the table for Hungarians, with or without EU, Hungary need gas and no country can provide it for them except Russia.

Russia and China have been looking for way out of Dollar as way of doing businesses but it was hard for them, now they don’t even have to worry about it again.

When we will have United Africa leaders that will do things like this, we can’t be selling our resources Dollars or Euros or Pounds.
We need our own money here, we even if it’s west Africa currency or maybe we should all option for Naira grin or Cedi because CFA is a big NO, France control that money.
We need vision leaders here

You remember what happened to the last African leader that tried the bolded part of your comment right?

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by SKIBiNSKI(m): 9:57am On Mar 30, 2022
I don't care about Russia, Ukraine, America or UK they are all oppressors of Africans. Africans needs to worry about their own problems in their own countries. Fucck! pink Europeans!

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by ledaman: 9:58am On Mar 30, 2022
He who plays the pipper dictate the tune. Vladimir Putin the man of the moment grin

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by MT: 9:59am On Mar 30, 2022
Putin cannot just wake up to unilaterally change a signed contract agreed by all parties. The contract states Russia gas would be paid for in Euros and NOT in rubles. Russia will be dragged to Court of Arbitration for resolution.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by SKIBiNSKI(m): 9:59am On Mar 30, 2022
SlyfoxxjReturns:


You remember what happened to the last African leader that tried the bolded part of your comment right?
so should africa carry on being ruled by America and Europe? Is it not time Africa step up and look after their own?

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by angelfallz(m): 9:59am On Mar 30, 2022
Russia is already selling to China and India at a discount
Qatar gas would take years because the infrastructure is not in place for it.

Algeria has even refused the USA's request to increase gas supply to Europe
https://see.news/algeria-rejects-us-request-to-increase-gas-supply-to-europe/
Alusiizizi:
They(EU and NATO) have no choice. Russia's next move will definitely be to apply discounts to their oil and gas. Add to that the sheer cost of infrastructure over-haul and we see that the Qatar pipe dream is just that. A pipe dream.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by MT: 10:00am On Mar 30, 2022
ledaman:
He who plays the pipper dictate the tune. Vladimir Putin the man of the moment grin

Not when signed contract is involved
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by seunny4lif(m): 10:01am On Mar 30, 2022
SlyfoxxjReturns:


You remember what happened to the last African leader that tried the bolded part of your comment right?
I know
They were betrayed by their brothers
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Nobody: 10:02am On Mar 30, 2022
EU put themselves in this position. The woke climate agenda in their own internal politics is what led to them reducing oil and gas production only to depend solely on Russia for this.

It doesn’t even make sense because if we are going to fight climate change then ALL countries need to work together not just Europe reducing emissions while Russia and China pump away as if it’s not the same atmosphere or ozone layer the whole world has.

The foolishness and wokeness of liberal politicians in the west is what is expediting the shift of power to the east. They are willingly giving up power in many cases. Wokeness is a cancer.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Nobody: 10:03am On Mar 30, 2022
SKIBiNSKI:
so should africa carry on being ruled by America and Europe? Is it not time Africa step up and look after their own?
it is time. I support it. I am just telling you they will never let it happen.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by baralatie(m): 10:04am On Mar 30, 2022
MT:
Putin cannot just wake up to unilaterally change a signed contract agreed by all parties. The contract states Russia gas would be paid for in Euros and NOT in rubles. Russia will be dragged to Court of Arbitration for resolution.
This case will take like 5 years to complete adjudication!
Europe would have freezed to death
cry

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Xiaohei(m): 10:04am On Mar 30, 2022
Whatever America, EU, China… decide to do is their cuppa, not ours. These past few have been hell for Nigerians with terrorists unleashing carnage and killing scores of people with brazen impunity! I no longer give a f.uck about the Russia - Ukraine war. Buhari, the terrorist sympathizer in chief of Nigeria and his marauding bandwagon of terrorist sympathizers and financiers are leading this once great country into an almost irreversible doom! Nigerians, should wake up!

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by ken6488(m): 10:04am On Mar 30, 2022
USA can't save Europe

USA need gas too
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by andy82: 10:05am On Mar 30, 2022
Illuminatiship:
What ever happens na Dem know, Nigeria match pain me yesterday.

grin grin

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by baralatie(m): 10:05am On Mar 30, 2022
SlyfoxxjReturns:
EU put themselves in this position. The woke climate agenda in their own internal politics is what led to them reducing oil and gas production only to depend solely on Russia for this.

It doesn’t even make sense because if we are going to fight climate change then ALL countries need to work together not just Europe reducing emissions while Russia and China pump away as if it’s not the same atmosphere or ozone layer the whole world has.

The foolishness and wokeness of liberal politicians in the west is what is expediting the shift of power to the east. They are willingly giving up power in many cases. Wokeness is a cancer.
Which European country has gas.uk is no longer in the EU
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by BKayy: 10:05am On Mar 30, 2022
MT:


Not when signed contract is involved
The so called "signed contract" was rendered useless when the sanctions started.
Now they have to force Russia the old way to honour it or.......

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Nobody: 10:05am On Mar 30, 2022
God bless you for this insightful write up bro. I strongly believe it’s high time Africans woke up from their docility and yes-sir attitude. We as Africans do not need to understand that no one can love you more than yourself. The Chinese realized this timely and look at them today. But my fear and regret is a lot of youths, especially on this forum, would rather choose to have the West, Russia or China make decisions that will impact their lives for them. Sadly enough, they are even professing they’d rather be led by the the Americans hegemony and do follow-follow. But you in what, if they(current generation of African youth) fails to wake up, future generations will undoubtedly will- its a truism

When we will have United Africa leaders that will do things like this, we can’t be selling our resources Dollars or Euros or Pounds.
We need our own money here, we even if it’s west Africa currency or maybe we should all option for Naira grin or Cedi because CFA is a big NO, France control that money.
We need vision leaders here
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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by ledaman: 10:06am On Mar 30, 2022
MT:


Not when signed contract is involved
European countries need Russia more than toothless sanction of UK and America.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by OgbeniSamm(m): 10:07am On Mar 30, 2022
obailala:
You guys have said it all... if the gas stops flowing, Europe's economy (including that of Russia) would take an unprecedented fall. Citizens across Europe will surge into the streets demanding their leaders stop playing politics with their lives.

Russia's won't fall. Europe isn't even the largest buyer of Russian gas, it is China. There are other countries ready to continue buying from Russia, even some NATO countries are already having a rethink citing outrages in their countries and economic collapse. It's Europe that will suffer.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by OgbeniSamm(m): 10:08am On Mar 30, 2022
Johnrake69:
They might try to invade Russia. Europeans can’t stand hardship

They can't invade Russia, it's going to be a suicide mission. They know better.

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Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Nobody: 10:08am On Mar 30, 2022
baralatie:

Which European country has gas.uk is no longer in the EU

Forget EU. I meant Western Europe in general. Norway produces more than the UK
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by Nobody: 10:09am On Mar 30, 2022
babyfaceafrica:
Please why can't USA sell cheap gas like russia? Why is Russia gas the cheapest everywhere

It’s essentially same gas different constituents, but American LPG gas is first compressed into specialized ships that will run on diesel (cost). Russian LNG gas is simply delivered via pipes.
Re: Ukraine: What Will Happen If EU & NATO Countries Refuse To Pay For Russia's Gas? by SKIBiNSKI(m): 10:09am On Mar 30, 2022
Europe has gone begging for gas in Morroco, the morrocans they claimed to be terrorists, grin soon they will invade Nigeria and cause conflicts in nigeria so as to take over the control of nigerian oil, nigerians should be worried more about Europe invading their country with conflicts (for oil) than worry about Russia bombing Ukraine, the Ukrainians will still be far better than africans regardless of invasion by putin.

150000 UK citizens are linning up to accept UKrainian refugees into their houses right now, would they have accepted african refugees? I don't think so.

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