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LordReed:
Who said anything about a boat taking down the ship? It was a land based anti-ship missile but sure Russian incompetence/recklessness/carelessness is a funnier explanation so I guess you are a bigger comedian than Zelenskyy. Bwahahahahaha!

I can't with your goose chase

Appleyard:
Those weapons are real, not propanganda, as you would want to believe. Most have been tested in this conflict but has not been used predominantly.

The S-400 for example proved it's capability when the S-400 anti-aircraft missile deployed in Belarus directly shoot down a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter jet over Kyiv at a distance of 150 kilometers and a huge meteor shower appeared over Kyiv. It created a new long-distance record for shooting down enemy aircraft in actual combat by anti-aircraft missiles.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russia-s-s-400-missile-system-gains-first-blood-in-ukraine-su-27-shot-down-150km-away-reports

The Russians can detect stealth, that is the main reason Turkey jettisoned the F-35 and instead opted for the S-400 due to what they saw happened in Syria. So the Harpoons are hardly a threat in that regard.

Why I would have loved to see more of these weapons being used, I also want this war to end quickly before it escalate out of hand. Moreover, there are talks that the US and NATO have sent covert guys over to Ukraine to study Russian war secrets. Who knows? Maybe that's why the Russians are hesitant to use some of their modern weapons predominantly. Whatever, war is bad.

alaye.. Turkey jettisoned F-35 for S-400.. Guy! if you no lie you go die?
Just asking for friend.

Russia can detect stealth.. Na so
una go dey hype hype hype... small missile, e go fall hand. una go come dey run around dey find cover story to explain why

S-400 is crap. Quote me anytime anywhere. Until it has proven its capabilities in a combat environment. Then it doesn't deserve a mention

gamechanger547:
The below is just one of the types of T72 tanks out there.

compare to turret to the one you posted.

However the below are various specs available and currently operated by different countries in the world.

T72 is different from T90 and because some posted a tank as T90 do not make it one.

Current operators
Algeria – 500 T-72, T-72M, T-72M1 and T-72AG (last generation)
Angola [3] – 44 T-72M1 bought from Belarus in 1999[4]
Armenia – 84 T-72B
Azerbaijan – ~572 T-72A, T-72B and T-72 SIM2
Belarus – 446 T-72B in service. [5] Various T-72 modifications in reserve. [6]
Bulgaria – 80 T-72M2 and a large number (some 350) in reserve.[7]
Czech Republic – 543 inherited from former Czechoslovakia in 1993. 30 modernized T-72M4CZ in service as of 1 January 2016, 86 T-72M1 in storage.
Democratic Republic of the Congo – 100 T-72AV delivered by Ukraine in 2010. [8]
Djibouti – 42 bought from Yemen.
Ethiopia – 50 bought from Yemen, 171 T-72UA1 vehicles reportedly ordered from Ukraine in 2011. [9]
Tigray Defense Forces[10]
Georgia – 50 T-72A and T-72M1 in 2004. 140 T-72A, T-72M1 and T-72B in 2005. 170 T-72M1, T-72B and T-72 SIM-1 in 2007. [11] Approximately 191 T-72 in 2008. [12]
Hungary – 195 T-72M and T-72M1 in 2009. [13] 15 in active service, 113 in reserve, 77 donated to new Iraqi Army . Hungary announced it ordered 44 Leopard 2A7+ tanks from Germany, which are to replace the T-72 in the 2020s. [14][15]
India – 1,900 T-72M and T-72M1 as of 2008 [16]
Iran – 480-540 T-72S and 140-300 T-72M1 as of 2021. 100+ T-72M captured during the Iran–Iraq War, licensed production still underway as seen in Iranian factories. Numerous upgraded models. Many T-72M's upgraded to Rakhsh standard.
Iraq – 1,000 T-72 Ural (1973), T-72 Ural
modernization, T-72M, T-72M1 and Saddam tanks were in service with Iraqi Army in 1990. 375 T-72 Ural (1973), T-72 Ural
modernization, T-72M, T-72M1, Lion of Babylon and Saddam tanks were in service with Iraqi Regular Army in 2003. Only 125 T-72M1 are in service as of 2009 with the
new Iraqi Army. Some T-72S MBTs in service with the PMF. [17] Some T-72s have been upgraded and modernized by Iran with Rakhsh kits. [18]
Kazakhstan – 300 [19]
Kenya – 77 T-72AV from Ukraine in 2007. 33 delivered in Feb 2009 may bring total to 110.
Kyrgyzstan – 215 [20]
Laos – T-72B1 [21][22][23][24]
Libya – 150 in 2003[13]
Malaysia – 48 PT-91M delivered by Poland (improved Polish PT-91 , which is itself an improved variant of the T-72M1) [25]
Morocco – 148: 136 T-72B and 12 T-72BK from Belarus delivered in two shipments, first in 1999 and the second in 2000. [26][27]
Mongolia – 100 [28][29][30]
Myanmar – 139 T-72S. [31]
Nicaragua – 50 T-72B tanks.[32][33] Initial photographs suggest the tanks are substantially upgraded with elements from the T-72B3M program as well as numerous other improvements.
Nigeria [3] – 77+ T-72M1 maybe in larger numbers.
North Korea
North Macedonia – 31: 30 T-72A and 1 T-72AK delivered from Russia in 2000. [34]
Poland – 586 T-72M1 and T-72M1D [35] (2006, 2007 – 597, [36] 2005 – 644, 2004 – 649 [37] ) and 135 T-72M1Z [35][38] (T-72M1 upgraded to PT-91 standard). Also 230 PT-91 in service.
Russia – (active): ~2,284, 155 T-72BM "Rogatka", 8,000 in reserve. [39] 270 T-72B3 received in 2013. [40] Additional 143 T-72B

Why don't you just do simple research instead of showing your ignorance.
The T-90 was built base on which tanks body?

You dey here dey go off point

Themandator:
Russian army is a third world army with good Rocket... CIA

Same third-world army that destroyed US Terrorist pet project in Syria, handed much of the country's control back to Assad. Neutralize 37 out of 51 cruise missiles fired by the US into Syria, and took Crimea without firing a single shot, and is currently partitioning Europe's second biggest country into two.

If that's the definition of a third-world army, I would like my country Nigeria to be just even half of that, and nobody would have to worry about Boko Haram and herdsmen anymore.

JooEeL:
Russia no get time for propaganda.

Saying it as it is.

Russia didn't acknowledge it. They claimed it was a fire incident until the evidence became overwhelmingly

mamawa123:
This war really expose Putin and Russia as a country

WW3 is looming..

railone:
can you inform the other guy since he said there was no T-90 in Ukraine

They are all confused and busy contradicting themselves

railone:
you mean iran oil that are sold in secrecy..
Dude where do you get your 411 from. Change your loud supply abeg.

When I typed that reply, I didn’t realize MBS had actually gone to Beijing to negotiate a petroYaun deal U are the only one left clinging to d dollar

railone:
Why don't you just do simple research instead of showing your ignorance.
The T-90 was built base on which tanks body?

You dey here dey go off point

Stop being a dingbat!!!! Go crosscheck facts from fiction.

Mouth breathers can't separate facts from fiction, so don't be like them.

What was posted there were T72 tanks; you can even find some on Google image posts of T72 tanks.

Ukraine and western medias have posted lots of images of destroyed and captured weapons only to be proven by propaganda burst podcast and other medias as fake.

Let me calm you down a little; Ukraine is trying with Western support and military intelligence especially that of US but most stuffs they put out are fake while some are true. But in this case, it's T72.

I grew up amongst Military people ( The army and Air force) and some went to become Generals before retirement and I got juniors and friends who are red necks in the Army, Air force and Navy.( Several of whom trained in the UK and USSR way back)

I used to be like most people who think the US and the west are far more powerful than Russia till I sat with them in a closed office and they enlightened me of what they saw when they trained in those countries. ( Several of them got training in more than 2 countries as they were specialist)

Won't say more.

Appleyard:
Same third-world army that destroyed US Terrorist pet project in Syria, handed much of the country's control back to Assad. Neutralize 37 out of 51 cruise missiles fired by the US into Syria, and took Crimea without firing a single shot, and is currently partitioning Europe's second biggest country into two.

If that's the definition of a third-world army, I would like my country Nigeria to be just even half of that, and nobody would have to worry about Boko Haram and herdsmen anymore.

Oga, CIA met Russian army in Afghanistan and after years came to the conclusion.
If you are interested in what has been destroyed in Syria, I will let you know that Russia lost airmen and crew trying to birth their only aircraft carrier in Syria... Russia doesn't owned a functional carrier till date due to cost of production


Oga, juxtaposed with all the stories you have read about Russia, they are not there

Russia that will produce just one hardware with hype... Where is their famed t14 tanks in this war?

Do you know that us tested the validity of their claims on the t 14 tank in Syria with javelin and it destroyed the tank

gamechanger547:
Stop being a dingbat!!!! Go crosscheck facts from fiction.

Mouth breathers can't separate facts from fiction, so don't be like them.

What was posted there were T72 tanks; you can even find some on Google image posts of T72 tanks.

Ukraine and western medias have posted lots of images of destroyed and captured weapons only to be proven by propaganda burst podcast and other medias as fake.

Let me calm you down a little; Ukraine is trying with Western support and military intelligence especially that of US but most stuffs they put out are fake while some are true. But in this case, it's T72.

I grew up amongst Military people ( The army and Air force) and some went to become Generals before retirement and I got juniors and friends who are red necks in the Army, Air force and Navy.( Several of whom trained in the UK and USSR way back)

I used to be like most people who think the US and the west are far more powerful than Russia till I sat with them in a closed office and they enlightened me of what they saw when they trained in those countries. ( Several of them got training in more than 2 countries as they were specialist)

Won't say more.

simple question wey I ask you... you dey tell me story about your virtual life.

Facts is the javelin took out a T-90. if you like be the whole army yourself. Fact is fact

tonididdy:
I can't with your goose chase

LoLz! Only you brought boat, brought self destruct, brought carelessness, so na you know wetin you dey chase. Bwahahahahaha!

Igbofam:
They are all confused and busy contradicting themselves

Russia is lucky they haven't brought their Su-57 into the fight. Ukraine for use stinger and Starstreak unmask its stealth.

bakar007:
Western Keypad warriors will start celebrating as usual , there many more where this ship comes from.

You’re saying that losing a $750 million dollar ship isn’t a big deal for Russia? You might’ve missed it but this wasn’t just a regular Russian ship. This was the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

railone:
Russia is lucky they haven't brought their Su-57 into the fight. Ukraine for use stinger and Starstreak unmask its stealth.

Ukraine is fighting smart while Russia is just fighting like a bull in a China shop.

Kpokpoogri:
Oga this ship was hit 4 days ago(not today)...Russia initially denied Ukrain claims of sinking the ship...only to confirm it now.

Go rest abeg

Hmnn

Krismas:
When I typed that reply, I didn’t realize MBS had actually gone to Beijing to negotiate a petroYaun deal U are the only one left clinging to d dollar

and that is news to you?

then you don't have any idea about US international relationships, it's not always smooth sailing but they know the tent they sleep at night.

Keep watching the news, when the dollar is actually being threatened. US will go to war so for now it's not except to you that's on the other side that jump at every little thing anti-west

efficiencie:
It's funny how this war is being promoted on both sides. Will sinking a Russian warship end the war? People have been displaced, civilians have been turned to soldiers, the carnage is real yet many are cheerleading from the comfort of their homes. By the time this war is over Ukraine would have been reduced to rubble or we would be hiding in underground shelters from nuclear fallout.

The EU and the US have already set up a fund to rebuild Ukraine, making recovery easier. Russia’s Allies won’t be offering a dollar to help the crushed economy recover.

ebufa:
Too many babies on this forum....and you are one of them! no Russian ship was sunk....the ship was safely evacuated ,This is a fact that has been confirmed by the pentagon! for all I care I maybe relating with an ss2 student! The fire was from an accident on board,whats the matter with you dumb zoogerians!

There's no need to engage illiterate IPOB in argument since Russia military headquarter has confirmed the sunk of MASKOVA.

Krismas:
When I typed that reply, I didn’t realize MBS had actually gone to Beijing to negotiate a petroYaun deal U are the only one left clinging to d dollar

No, many more are clinging to the dollar. Fact is, if the dollar ever tanks your naira will be truly worthless, even more than it is today. Only the foolish wish for the fall of the West because the wise in your country know that if the West fails, Nigeria will cease to exist.

smallrincowis16:
You seems to be uninformed. You can't demilitarized Russia, that's what NATO knew very well, now, they are on the verge of controlling see if azov and most of the black see. That's a real threat to NATO which was their main aim of arming ukrain or ukrain joining NATO.

As for the loses it is bound to happen but go and check most weapon Russia has lost were disposable weapon not even near the best of their armament. The MOSKVA that was lost was due for retirement but since new cruiser is under construction/refurbishment it has to continue to serve, for the past 10 years it has not been deployed beyong it's natural zone which tells you the situation of things with her. And the only useful thing on her was her big radars other things are as good as nearly useless. Why didn't ukrain strike those coveat that were hauling missiles at it if it really intended to cause damage??

You are making to laugh uncontrollable. Russia military headquarter has lamented on the loss.

railone:
simple question wey I ask you... you dey tell me story about your virtual life.

Facts is the javelin took out a T-90. if you like be the whole army yourself. Fact is fact

I have given you facts but it's like you're bent over believing what you want to believe.

Russia is dealing with your Ukraine and it's ok for you to feel bad about it.

Posting T72 as T90 won't win you the war even if you turn yourself to Azov battalion commander.

Don't know what you don't understand! You guys posted T72 as T90 of which eg the same one you guys posted with Z sign close to the destroyed building is posted on Google image as T72!

Russia gives vivid account of what they hit, Equipment, building, weapons, location etc but what do Ukraine do? recycle fake pictures and few automatic ones over and over again.

They even posted a picture of Russia space rocket been pulled with a tractor by an Ukraine farmer.( They claimed it was captured)

You people have been bursted why not move on rather than keep trying to force me to accept your propaganda?

Why is Ukraine not dishing out info of Russians they claimed to have killed or captured?

It should be around 300,000 now abi!

Ukraine have at least 44,000 fighters in Donbass and they're still losing ground. ( The US is encouraging them to keep fighting instead of surrendering).


IQ really matters!!


Do people really think about the reason why the US and western countries shutdown Russian Medias and withdrew their license?

It's to change the narrative and prevent a balanced report/view.

railone:
you don't seems to grab the idea.. if a drone can distract a defense system that's meant to track up to 30 projectiles and destroy them. what does that tell you?

That Russia is a truly third world army as declared by the CIA

gamechanger547:
I have given you facts but it's like you're bent over believing what you want to believe.

Russia is dealing with your Ukraine and it's ok for you to feel bad about it.

Posting T72 as T90 won't win you the war even if you turn yourself to Azov battalion commander.

Don't know what you don't understand! You guys posted T72 as T90 of which eg the same one you guys posted with Z sign close to the destroyed building is posted on Google image as T72!

Russia gives vivid account of what they hit, Equipment, building, weapons, location etc but what do Ukraine do? recycle fake pictures and few automatic ones over and over again.

They even posted a picture of Russia space rocket been pulled with a tractor by an Ukraine farmer.( They claimed it was captured)

You people have been bursted why not move on rather than keep trying to force me to accept your propaganda?

Why is Ukraine not dishing out info of Russians they claimed to have killed or captured?

It should be around 300,000 now abi!

Ukraine have at least 44,000 fighters in Donbass and they're still losing ground. ( The US is encouraging them to keep fighting instead of surrendering).


IQ really matters!!

Oga, why didn't Russia capture the capital of Ukraine like they had intended?

gamechanger547:
I have given you facts but it's like you're bent over believing what you want to believe.

Russia is dealing with your Ukraine and it's ok for you to feel bad about it.

Posting T72 as T90 won't win you the war even if you turn yourself to Azov battalion commander.

Don't know what you don't understand! You guys posted T72 as T90 of which eg the same one you guys posted with Z sign close to the destroyed building is posted on Google image as T72!

Russia gives vivid account of what they hit, Equipment, building, weapons, location etc but what do Ukraine do? recycle fake pictures and few automatic ones over and over again.

They even posted a picture of Russia space rocket been pulled with a tractor by an Ukraine farmer.

You people have been bursted why not move on rather than keep trying to force me to accept your propaganda?

Why is Ukraine not dishing out info of Russians they claimed to have killed or captured?

It should be around 300,000 now abi!

Ukraine have at least 44,000 fighters in Donbass and they're still losing ground. ( The US is encouraging them to keep fighting instead of surrendering).


IQ really matters!!

you talk too much.. IQ matters then answer the question. Which tank body is the T-90 base on?

Russia top of the line attack helicopter, Ka-52 Alligator was downed using an Anti-tank missile. Do you know how silly that is. It's supposed to have laser and missile lock warning system yet that didn't happen.

Their precious Su-35, again top of the line 4++ gen fighter jet was hit with a stinger missile.

And you're here saying there in no T-90 in Ukraine.

FYI, the T-90 sort of resembles the T-72 but it's upgraded and those upgrade are unique and can't be mistaken.

You don't even know simple something. You are here moving in all direction.

As long as Kyiv is still standing then Ukraine is still in the fight, that's the basic rule in war fare, take the capital and win the war, anything else is in between.

Go educate yourself more bro

railone:
you talk too much.. IQ matters then answer the question. Which tank body is the T-90 base on?

Russia top of the line attack helicopter, Ka-52 Alligator was downed using an Anti-tank missile. Do you know how silly that is. It's supposed to have laser and missile lock warning system yet that didn't happen.

Their precious Su-35, again top of the line 4++ gen fighter jet was hit with a stinger missile.

And you're here saying there in no T-90 in Ukraine.

FYI, the T-90 sort of resembles the T-72 but it's upgraded and those upgrade are unique and can't be mistaken.

You don't even know simple something. You are here moving in all direction.

As long as Kyiv is still standing then Ukraine is still in the fight, that's the basic rule in war fare, take the capital and win the war, anything else is in between.

Go educate yourself more bro

Look at a mofo who's saying someone talks too much!

Who is moving in all directions? you or me!

You must be silly.

What part of English language don't you understand?

Check Google image but you kept asking the same question in different ways.

you've got low IQ

Appleyard:
Those weapons are real, not propanganda, as you would want to believe. Most have been tested in this conflict but has not been used predominantly.

The S-400 for example proved it's capability when the S-400 anti-aircraft missile deployed in Belarus directly shoot down a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter jet over Kyiv at a distance of 150 kilometers and a huge meteor shower appeared over Kyiv. It created a new long-distance record for shooting down enemy aircraft in actual combat by anti-aircraft missiles.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russia-s-s-400-missile-system-gains-first-blood-in-ukraine-su-27-shot-down-150km-away-reports

The Russians can detect stealth, that is the main reason Turkey jettisoned the F-35 and instead opted for the S-400 due to what they saw happened in Syria. So the Harpoons are hardly a threat in that regard.

Why I would have loved to see more of these weapons being used, I also want this war to end quickly before it escalate out of hand. Moreover, there are talks that the US and NATO have sent covert guys over to Ukraine to study Russian war secrets. Who knows? Maybe that's why the Russians are hesitant to use some of their modern weapons predominantly. Whatever, war is bad.

Mr. Russia has no war secret to give anybody key alone the US

CIA already told White House that Russian army is a third world army with good rockets
. Ukraine army chiefs believe that the West is not arming them as fast as they have requested because they are afraid they, Ukrainians, wouldn't be satisfied with pushing back Russia from their territory but going on to March to Moscow


Russia only saving grace is nuclear weapons.

Russia lost 15k men in a ten year war in Afghanistan but US that stayed for 20 years lost less than 3k.men


There is nothing about war that Russia can teach the US and Israel

railone:
you talk too much.. IQ matters then answer the question. Which tank body is the T-90 base on?

Russia top of the line attack helicopter, Ka-52 Alligator was downed using an Anti-tank missile. Do you know how silly that is. It's supposed to have laser and missile lock warning system yet that didn't happen.

Their precious Su-35, again top of the line 4++ gen fighter jet was hit with a stinger missile.

And you're here saying there in no T-90 in Ukraine.

FYI, the T-90 sort of resembles the T-72 but it's upgraded and those upgrade are unique and can't be mistaken.

You don't even know simple something. You are here moving in all direction.

As long as Kyiv is still standing then Ukraine is still in the fight, that's the basic rule in war fare, take the capital and win the war, anything else is in between.

Go educate yourself more bro

You people put your mouth into what you don't know.

The T-90 is not just a renamed T-72, while it has the same chassis as the T-72, it has a different turret, as well as gun, engine and capabilities in general.

Are you ok now.

They have the same chassis but different turret, gun, engine etc.

I simply ask you guys to check the turret and compare but you people kept going to and fro.

You spoke about the same Ka52 which are now operating in pairs to destroy Ukraine Militarily!
They have done a lot of damage to Ukraine Militarily. Few might have been brought down but too few to change the war in Ukraine favor.

You seem to amaze me with what you put out!

Saying you take a capital eg Kyiv before you win a war? You win a war when the other party is exhausted, demoralized, degraded and they lack the ability to continue to fight.

Did turkey capture Cyprus capital before they made peace? Did UK capture Argentina capital before they surrendered Falkland islands?

France was beaten black and blue by Germany during WW2 in a month of fighting.

War is not child's play especially when you have lots of backers.

As per Su35, several are still flying over Ukraine on bombing raids likewise Su34 and almost obsolete Su24 and Su25.

Why haven't Ukraine destroyed all the Su24 and Su25 bombing them if it's that easy as you claim or say?

US lost it stealth jet which they claimed was invincible over Yugoslavia to a Soviet obsolete anti missiles system used by the Serbs and they quickly took the remaining ones out of service.( They grounded them permanently).

You people should get your facts right.

smallrincowis16:
Maybe you are fantasising or you ignore what you wrote.

It being flagshit in the Russian navy doesn't mean it need escort like careers, whoever say that should bring evidence, which I am saying, when US was using cruisers was it moving around with escorts? Maybe you should answer that.

I am still of the opinion it was not shot at, all the claim was coming from MSM and Ukraine media which are known to be liers. Even pentagon can not verify the claim cos they monitored the ship and the ship was moving on it's own propulsion before sinking whig tells you those Twitter armchair are nothing but liers, maybe you should bring verified evidence that other ship in the ship departed the area not truing to revue the ship?

This is TASS RUSSIAN news agency

It was being towed, by other ships

Are Russians and the West both lying?

I have your time to debunk your ignorance

During the towing of the Moskva cruiser to the designation port, the ship lost stability due to hull damage, sustained during the detonation of ammunition because of a fire. Amid the heavy storm, the ship sank," the Ministry said.

https://tass.com/russia/1438045?utm_source=google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=google.com&utm_referrer=google.com

gamechanger547:
You people put your mouth into what you don't know.

The T-90 is not just a renamed T-72, while it has the same chassis as the T-72, it has a different turret, as well as gun, engine and capabilities in general.

Are you ok now.

They have the same chassis but different turret, gun, engine etc.

I simply ask you guys to check the turret and compare but you people kept going to and fro.

You spoke about the same Ka52 which are now operating in pairs to destroy Ukraine Militarily!
They have done a lot of damage to Ukraine Militarily. Few might have been brought down but too few to change the way in Ukraine favor.

You seem to amaze me with what you put out!

Saying you take a capital eg Kyiv before you win a war? You win a war when the other party is exhausted, demoralized, degraded and they lack the ability to continue to fight.

Did turkey capture Cyprus capital before they made peace? Did UK capture Argentina capital before they surrendered Falkland islands?

France was beaten black and blue by Germany during WW2 in a month of fighting.

War is not child's play especially when you have lots of backers.

As per SU35, it's still flying over Ukraine on bombing raids likewise S34 and almost obsolete Su24 and Su25.

Why haven't Ukraine destroyed all the Su24 and Su25 bombing them it it's that easy as you claim or say?

like I said you talk too much....

When was France considered captured, wasn't it the fall of Paris. Same for Germany.
Japan surrendered, they weren't defeated.
Same with all other ways that ended that way.

Dude you don't very little idea of war fare...

You were sent pictures of the T-90 but you kept doubling down on your ignorance. Now here the � of it on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t3cva5/destroyed_t90/

watch it and then come and explain to me how the T-72 you claimed it was has a SHOART

smallrincowis16:
I don't know where you get that, but there are ports in Russia far East, even in Vladivostok that can construct such ship, izumo helicopter careers are already under construction and have more tonnage like 2800tonnes. Also there is a cruiser under repair/modernization Russia whiv is due to commissioning this year, it hasmore tonnage than this.

It was never deployed to Syria, maybe you can give me any source on that

Russia just finished constructing a dry dock that can fit their Aircraft carrier, which is far more bigger and heavier than the moskva.

"Russia possesses 40 shipyards, however only seventeen among them has the capacity to build vessels greater than 122 meters in length and only five among them has the capacity to build large ocean ships"

This ship is 186 meters long, weighs a whooping 11,000+ tons, and the most shipyards present in russia can only handle construction of vessels not heavier than 7000 tons deadweight.

The Moskva class were built in mykolav in ukraine during the USSR days and they remain the only shipyard capable to handle sizes of this ships.

tonididdy:
Pfff.... Beer parlour propaganda.
Same America said they cannot verify if the Ukrainian claims are true.
You don't know what a flagship is, do you?
You think it's a baby you can distract with toys

Oga go brush up your skills.

I never said the americans did this, but i believe they handed the intelligence to the ukrainians who took the chance and.....kabooom