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If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Destined2lead(op): 7:21pm On Apr 14, 2022
I have been really thinking about this.

How do private messages leak on WhatsApp even though it's encrypted.

Some people claim the encryption has loop holes.

What do you think?.

Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by flames007(m): 7:37pm On Apr 14, 2022
What do you mean by leak? Let's that from there.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by flames007(m): 7:37pm On Apr 14, 2022
What do you mean by leak? Let's start from there.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ItsGoodToBeGood: 7:42pm On Apr 14, 2022
flames007:
What do you mean by leak? Let's that from there.
An intentional disclosure of
something secret or private.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by flames007(m):
ItsGoodToBeGood:
An intentional disclosure of
something secret or private.
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.

Modified: Wow, i just logged in after a long day and found a lot of engagement on this comment. However, some people quoted me out of context. To clarify, It's possible to intercept an encrypted data, but impossible to read it except you have the key. Some conspiracy theorists might even argue that whatsapp is not entirely honest about the end-to-end encryption promise that even they can't see the data. Well, i won't be surprised if that's the case. It's facebook's way to violate users' privacy. But i. all honesty, end-to-end encryption ought to be the safest way to transmit data - in a perfect world.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by AdeniyiA(m): 7:49pm On Apr 14, 2022
ItsGoodToBeGood:
An intentional disclosure of
something secret or private.
That's disclosure by d owner or another person having access to the device. The end to end stuff is a security feature against hacking or phishing
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Deicide: 7:59pm On Apr 14, 2022
AdeniyiA:
That's disclosure by d owner or another person having access to the device. The end to end stuff is a security feature against hacking or phishing
It has nothing to do with phishing. You people would just be throwing random words up and down.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ItsGoodToBeGood: 8:25pm On Apr 14, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Exactly
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by AdeniyiA(m): 8:39pm On Apr 14, 2022
Deicide:
It has nothing to do with phishing. You people would just be throwing random words up and down.
Why don't you just correct it and explain your own understanding of the topic posted instead of attacking personality. Grow up bro
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by talk2hb1(m): 8:58pm On Apr 14, 2022
Destined2lead:
I have been really thinking about this.

How do private messages leak on WhatsApp even though it's encrypted.

Some people claim the encryption has loop holes.

What do you think?.

Lalasticlala please help push to appropriate section.
It leaked in the middle!
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Nobody:
Don't fool ur self


Since it's Whàtsapp that created both the encryption and decryption modules



What makes u think they can't decrypt your messages

Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by BlaqFaze: 9:20pm On Apr 14, 2022
GREATIGBOMAN:
Don't fool ur self


Since it's Whàtsapp that created both the encryption and decryption modules



What makes u think they can't decrypt your messages lols funny
This means Bitcoin can be hacked, in the sense that someone can send 1 BTC to multiple accounts undecided

The only way WhatsApp and Telegram messages leak is when someone from one of the ends decides to leak it
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by eldervine: 11:52pm On Apr 14, 2022
There is one hole laik dat in the NW corner of the application dats where its leaking from.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by airsaylongcome: 2:04am On Apr 15, 2022
GREATIGBOMAN:
Don't fool ur self


Since it's Whàtsapp that created both the encryption and decryption modules



What makes u think they can't decrypt your messages
Do you know how encryption works? Do you know that all encryption algorithms are publicly available? That is everyone knows how they work? The strength of encryption is not that the encryption algorithm is hidden. It's that it's public. Even banks use encryption tools that are available to the public. Whatsapp can use whatever algorithm. But your phone determines what key to use for the encryption. Whatsapp even with detailed knowledge of the encryption algorithm cannot access the content because they don't know the key
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Destined2lead(op): 1:33pm On Apr 15, 2022
eldervine:
There is one hole laik dat in the NW corner of the application dats where its leaking from.
Lol
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Destined2lead(op): 1:33pm On Apr 15, 2022
Hmm
airsaylongcome:
Do you know how encryption works? Do you know that all encryption algorithms are publicly available? That is everyone knows how they work? The strength of encryption is not that the encryption algorithm is hidden. It's that it's public. Even banks use encryption tools that are available to the public. Whatsapp can use whatever algorithm. But your phone determines what key to use for the encryption. Whatsapp even with detailed knowledge of the encryption algorithm cannot access the content because they don't know the key
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by softworldsystem(m): 3:34pm On Apr 15, 2022
cool
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by LordTosinJ(m): 7:00pm On Apr 15, 2022
Anything that can be encrypted can also be decrypted -- Lukas 2023 undecided
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by bularuz(m): 7:43am On Apr 16, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Yes I believe you are right,
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by bularuz(m): 7:44am On Apr 16, 2022
LordTosinJ:
Anything that can be encrypted can also be decrypted -- Lukas 2023 undecided
Not with out salt
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by WhizdomXX(m): 12:55pm On Apr 16, 2022
airsaylongcome:
Do you know how encryption works? Do you know that all encryption algorithms are publicly available? That is everyone knows how they work? The strength of encryption is not that the encryption algorithm is hidden. It's that it's public. Even banks use encryption tools that are available to the public. Whatsapp can use whatever algorithm. But your phone determines what key to use for the encryption. Whatsapp even with detailed knowledge of the encryption algorithm cannot access the content because they don't know the key
Interesting. Continue please.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by WhizdomXX(m): 12:56pm On Apr 16, 2022
BlaqFaze:
This means Bitcoin can be hacked, in the sense that someone can send 1 BTC to multiple accounts undecided

The only way WhatsApp and Telegram messages leak is when someone from one of the ends decides to leak it
But bitcoin cannot be hacked.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by BlaqFaze: 1:15pm On Apr 16, 2022
WhizdomXX:
But bitcoin cannot be hacked.
Yh...I was just showing that guy's ignorance
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by BlaqFaze: 1:18pm On Apr 16, 2022
LordTosinJ:
Anything that can be encrypted can also be decrypted -- Lukas 2023 undecided
True but it needs a key to be decrypted and only one person has that key... that's the receiver in the case of messages. No other person/third party can have access to that message except the sender/receiver decides to leak it.

This is one of the selling points of Telegram... their encryption is so good that the Russian government can't hack it and Putin banned the owner from Russia (the owner of Telegram is Russian).
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ATEAMS: 5:28pm On Apr 18, 2022
Okay
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by merits(m): 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
grin
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Case closed!
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Rebuke: 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
Gb watsap can be easily compromised.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by DigitalStepdad: 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
The middle .... They leak from the middle since they are encrypted end to end ... But they didn't say nothing about the middle sha
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Judolisco(m): 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
End to end... Like no third party...
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