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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by emmy512: 6:46pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Eaglesence:tell us how it happened. What data was leaked, who leaked it and why they did so we can analyse the claims further |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by airsaylongcome: 6:47pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
ivolt: Bow down to someone who understands how security and encryption works! You understand the maths and the economics of it. It's not about building an unbreakable algorithm. It's about building one that will cost the attacker a lot of money to breach in return for minimal gain. Basically getting someone to spend $1bn to steal something worth $100 3 Likes |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Eaglesence: 6:47pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
emmy512: Too long an explanation i can only send a voice note which is impossible here |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by airsaylongcome: 6:49pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Eaglesence: Your phone was compromised. Probably with a keylogger or some other hack tool. I will hazard a guess that you are running an android and click on just about any link you come across. Probably also running GBWhatsapp. Might be wrong on the last one 2 Likes |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Eaglesence: 6:53pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
airsaylongcome: You are so right! Please bro what do i do. Help me get rid of em |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Nobody: 7:05pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Whatsapp messages are end to end encrypted dosen't mean that they can't be intercepted. Intercepting an encrypted whatsapp message in it's encrypted form with the intention of decrypting it without the main tool (the private key) which only the phone user can have access to is where the main problem lies as it could take years to decrypt. No whatsapp leaks has ever been done by decryption using the private key,it's either from the sender or the reciever that's why they are all screenshots. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Powersurge: 7:07pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Destined2lead: WhatsApp is encrypted bro. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by phemmyfour: 7:08pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Destined2lead:it's leaked from either the sender or the receiver |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by abbey621(m): 7:12pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Data in transit can be encrypted, so can data at rest but the problem you have is not encryption(logical access) but that of confidentiality(physical access). Your private whatsapp chats can only be decrypted using your own keys, this simply means your device, password etc., if your password or device becomes compromised either via your own carelessness or ignorance then encryption is basically useless. Like others have said, you've been hacked! Your solution is simple, know the devices you've used to check your email and whatsapp, reset all those devices back to factory settings making sure everything is wiped clean. Change your password including that of all your emails, enable 2 step authentication for your emails and whatsapp and never allow anyone access to install apps on your devices again. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Obascoetubi: 7:16pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Springboot:that of aba kyari vs hushpupi |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Nobody: 7:17pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
LoudlyMouthed: You get the point. There are always keyword filters and we know what this means. Telegram ain’t so safe either. Hence most people pay for their own encrypted communication modalities. Even that ain’t 100% safe cos FBI and co can still eve drop. Lobatan? 1 Like |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by BlaqFaze: 7:17pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Eaglesence:Stop clicking on phishing links e.g When someone shares a WhatsApp message that "FG is distributing laptops to student" or "MTN/Glo/Airtel are giving 50gb to their customers"(this one is rampant)... don't click on those links |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Springboot: 7:20pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Obascoetubi: That from the phone seized from hushpupi 1 Like |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Techguy96(m): 7:37pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
FireUpNow:That's not the case with WhatsApp, the message are being leak from end users (senders or receivers), not from the server. Even if u were able to hack the server, the information you would get will be encrypted, u still have to go through the stress of decrypting it yourself. Imagine adding a salt variable to the initial message before encryption, when u manage to decrypt the message, u still won't understand the message. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by brightalo1010: 7:39pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
FireUpNow: Keep quiet abeg, go and read what encrypted means before you start this your jargon |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by brightalo1010: 7:45pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
pansophist:. You're ignorance of what you're saying. Typical Nigerian saying whatever they believe is true even when they have no facts about it.
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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ivolt: 7:50pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Eaglesence:Your boyfriend or friend leaked it. Quite simple. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by chubinwa(m): 8:14pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
flames007:Exactly my point |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by musicwriter(m): 8:23pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Destined2lead: I've tested the so called WhatsApp encryption and I can tell you confidently that there's no such thing as encryption is reality. When the CIA, MI16, French secret service and their African slave agents began monitoring me in Cotonou, Benin republic because I was writing a book that white people didn't like, I deliberately seized the opportunity to set them up using WhatsApp to see whether WhatsApp is really encrypted but at the end it was obvious they were reading my messages. I've done the same experiment in Nigeria and the outcome was the same. As long as they know your phone number or device IMEI number or WIFI signal name or even your email address, they'll read your WhatsApp messages. I blogged about the experience. See how the CIA and MI16 lure innocent people to commit terrorism Note: I don't want to leave the impression that every Dick, Tom and Harry can unencrypt WhatsApp to read your messages. If something is encrypted (whether WhatsApp or something else) only highly specialized people like the CIA can unlock it. So, don't be afraid to use WhatsApp. 1 Like |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Onyenna(m): 8:27pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Gbam!! |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Dammysmart: 8:33pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Eaglesence:send a pm. Your acct most probably linked 1 Like |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by MrCEO69(m): 8:40pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Deicide: Oga wey sabi,,, u neglected the one he got correct why demoralize the guy to boost your own ego |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Poleski: 8:44pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Destined2lead: It doesn't leak. Anyone who has full access to your phone can access your WhatsApp without any difficulty. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Abusadiqworld: 8:45pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
flames007:You ave said it all. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Eaglesence: 8:55pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
ivolt: My brother's girlfriend or one of his staff both IT gurus |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Eaglesence: 8:57pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Humm true i received some of such. How do i get rid of hackers who are already on my phone please? |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by flames007(m): 9:02pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Xandelle:what i mean is it's impossible to intercept and read an end-to-end encrypted message. Thanks for your input though. |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Jaelluiz: 9:03pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
There is no algorithm that cannot be broken theoretically. The strength of encryption lies in the strength of the keys in use. If a receiver has the private key, the message will be decrypted quickly and easily. If a rogue receiver intercepts the message and does not have the matching private key to decrypt, he would have to try all possible permutations(Guesses) for the private key which will decrypt the message. This is where it gets quickly boring. For algorithms like AES 256, it would take few billion years to try all possible combinations of keys to decrypt using present technologies. Maybe a few million years using quantum computing. Bottom line is WhatsApp message leaks usually happen from irresponsible handling of data or device by the sender or receiver. **I do not know what algorithm WhatsApp uses** |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by raphy(m): 9:06pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
What is the dragging all about. If you send someone message and don't want a third party to knw about it they can just screen shot it and send it that is how is licking So I don settled this Matter abi Oya posted giv me chill heneken...with pepper soup |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by BlaqFaze: 9:07pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Eaglesence:If it's a serious case, your best bet is to factory reset your phone and creating new accounts: email, WhatsApp, etc |
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Eppking(m): 9:08pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
Hello Sir, Telegram messages are not encrypted on group chat as of today. That is one major disadvantage using Telegram for serious business. A lot of yahoo boys already know this from inception and that is the reason Telegram is heaven to them. Group messages on Telegram are usually transmitted as plain text over the network and can be read without stress. Whatsap group messages are encrypted just like we had BBM in those days. Whatsap messages in the days of BBM were not encrypted. WhatsApp had to meet that criteria before they were able to match up and eventually relegated BBM. I hope this is useful to someone out there. BlaqFaze: |
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