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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by money121(m): 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
Cold Zobo

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Mooh247: 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2022
WhatsApp messages don't leak people share them via screenshot

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Twoclans(f): 5:30pm On Apr 18, 2022
Leaks can happen only from the sender or the receiver .

Where are the IT gurus ,please they should come and explain further .My brain is paining me .
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by CoronaVirusPro: 5:30pm On Apr 18, 2022
talk2hb1:

It leaked in the middle!

In the middle of where? thighs?

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by talk2hb1(m): 5:33pm On Apr 18, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:


In the middle of where? thighs?
Is it not the life they want us to believe.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by FireUpNow(m): 5:34pm On Apr 18, 2022
Always bear in mind that every computer programe has a bug which means they are not 100% secured that is why hackers can always gain access through the bugs found in the programs
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Eriokanmi: 5:35pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Good!
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ivolt: 5:35pm On Apr 18, 2022
GREATIGBOMAN:
Don't fool ur self


Since it's Whàtsapp that created both the encryption and decryption modules



What makes u think they can't decrypt your messages
That is not how cryptography works.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by SincereBigot: 5:35pm On Apr 18, 2022
we no even understand wetin una dey discuss for this thread.. what do you mean by whatsapp leak

please give us an example of the type of leak you are talking about so that we can understand

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ivolt: 5:36pm On Apr 18, 2022
FireUpNow:
Always bear in mind that every computer programe has a bug which means they are not 100% secured that is why hackers can always gain access through the bugs found in the programs
It is not hackers, it is the receiver, sender or phone thief that leaks messages.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by AngelicBeing: 5:37pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Gbamsulotely wink

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by pansophist(m): 5:38pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.

There is a loophole though.

If you backup your whatsapp message, then it has to be decrypted before backing up, and then whatsapp can view your messages, or even a good hacker. So never back up messages.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by ToyinDipo(m): 5:39pm On Apr 18, 2022
Destined2lead:
I have been really thinking about this.

How do private messages leak on WhatsApp even though it's encrypted.

Some people claim the encryption has loop holes.

What do you think?.
I think your phone is leaking.
That's end-to-end encryption, not point-to-point encryption.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by seyz91(m): 5:40pm On Apr 18, 2022
Oga OP, you be olodo cheesy

WhatsApp messages or chats don't leak, na person expose am from his/her end, the encryption only against hacking

Destined2lead:
I have been really thinking about this.

How do private messages leak on WhatsApp even though it's encrypted.

Some people claim the encryption has loop holes.

What do you think?.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by LaconicINC: 5:41pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
abeg e, ogbeni leave that thing, any information can be intercepted, it's just that the need for it has not arisen yet. It's only telegram encryption that I know is topnotch

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Bmaster(m): 5:41pm On Apr 18, 2022
Destined2lead:
I have been really thinking about this.

How do private messages leak on WhatsApp even though it's encrypted.

Some people claim the encryption has loop holes.

What do you think?.
so op,u wish to know the more,even the more,more than the originator ?

Easy ooo
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Springboot: 5:42pm On Apr 18, 2022
Show me one case of a leaked what'sapp msg and I'll give to u 50k instantly, please I'm not talking of a case where one party leaked the others msg.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by FireUpNow(m): 5:43pm On Apr 18, 2022
ivolt:

It is not hackers, it is the receiver, sender or phone thief that leaks messages.
well if that is what encryption means but I want to believe that no message sent on the internet be it email or Whatsapp or Facebook is 100%. There is every degrees of error in life though it could be infinisimal (negligeable)

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by egemibak(m): 5:45pm On Apr 18, 2022
I heard Telegram messages are not encrypted on group chat as of today. That is one major disadvantage using Telegram for serious business.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Benwallt(m): 5:45pm On Apr 18, 2022
Screen shots
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Nobody: 5:47pm On Apr 18, 2022
Most people screenshot some actually create the messages with an app
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by linearity: 5:48pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.

Thee is an exception to this rule and if you read one of the last WhatsApp disclosure that you agreed to before continuing to use WhatsApp you will see it there…the exception is:

If you are chatting with someone using a business account, that business or individual can hire a third party social media manager or someone to monitor their business WhatsApp messages in order to response to and address customer issues.

In that case, there will be an API connection to the third party and all your messages can be seen by them and respond to by them and not just your intended receiver.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by CaptainFM1: 5:49pm On Apr 18, 2022
ItsGoodToBeGood:




An intentional disclosure of
something secret or private.

The end to end encryption means it's only decrypted by the recieving end.

If the recieving end may further send the same message to another party.

And the cycle goes on.

End to end encryption simply means no other party can wiretap/decryt/eves drop on it, unless the message is intentionally sent to them.

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by MissionaryArchi(m): 5:49pm On Apr 18, 2022
BlaqFaze:
True but it needs a key to be decrypted and only one person has that key... that's the receiver in the case of messages. No other person/third party can have access to that message except the sender/receiver decides to leak it.

This is one of the selling points of Telegram... their encryption is so good that the Russian government can't hack it and Putin banned the owner from Russia (the owner of Telegram is Russian).
For the Russian government to ban telegram and allow WhatsApp that means the later can be decrypted by a third party
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by pseudonomer: 5:49pm On Apr 18, 2022
GREATIGBOMAN:
Don't fool ur self


Since it's Whàtsapp that created both the encryption and decryption modules



What makes u think they can't decrypt your messages

You don’t know how this thing works. They can’t view it.

“ The security behind end-to-end encryption is enabled by the creation of a public-private key pair. This process, also known as asymmetric cryptography, employs separate cryptographic keys for securing and decrypting the message. Public keys are widely disseminated and are used to lock or encrypt a message. Private keys are only known by the owner and are used to unlock or decrypt the message.

In end-to-end encryption, the system creates public and private cryptographic keys for each person who joins.

An example

Let’s say Alice and Bob create accounts on the system. The end-to-end encrypted system provides each with a public-private key pair, whereby their public keys are stored on the server and their private keys are stored on their device.

Alice wants to send Bob an encrypted message. She uses Bob’s public key to encrypt her message to him. Then, when Bob receives the message, he uses his private key on his device to decrypt the message from Alice.

When Bob wants to reply, he simply repeats the process, encrypting his message to Alice using Alice’s public key…”

https://www.preveil.com/blog/end-to-end-encryption/

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Jimmy231: 5:49pm On Apr 18, 2022
Wasere
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Bimpe29: 5:50pm On Apr 18, 2022
flames007:
The thing is: end to end encryption means that message sent from your end gets encrypted as you hit the send button, then gets decrypted when it enters the other person's inbox. Hence, whatsapp can't know what you send. It's practically impossible to intercept a message in transit to view it's content - not even whatsapp can do that, so if there's a leak, it's from one of the ends.
Simply explained!
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by MissionaryArchi(m): 5:51pm On Apr 18, 2022
linearity:


Thee is an exception to this rule and if you read one of the last WhatsApp discussions that you agreed to before continuing to use WhatsApp you will see it there…the exception is:

If you are chatting with someone using a business account, that business or individual can hire a third party social media manager or someone to monitor their business WhatsApp messages in order to response to and address customer issues.

In that case, there will be an API connection to the third party and all your messages can be seen by them and respond to by them and not just your intended receiver.
Yaaa this is true.
You're intelligent and smart
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by Nobody: 5:51pm On Apr 18, 2022
BlaqFaze:
True but it needs a key to be decrypted and only one person has that key... that's the receiver in the case of messages. No other person/third party can have access to that message except the sender/receiver decides to leak it.

This is one of the selling points of Telegram... their encryption is so good that the Russian government can't hack it and Putin banned the owner from Russia (the owner of Telegram is Russian).

Telegram is more encrypted than WhatsApp. Ever wonder why what you discussed on WhatsApp sometimes shows up as advert on instagram and Facebook?

Especially if the same email or Mobile number links all.

Discuss about buying bed on WhatsApp and you might wake up to see furniture adverts on Facebook the next day.

Ever wondered why?

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Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by LoudlyMouthed: 5:52pm On Apr 18, 2022
Hack without prior info (leak) of the system spec, config, user details.. into empty space, with no gain (fun/strength/cash) I've not seen.



Leaks are from bridge, policies.. inside sender or receiver's device (keylogger, clone.. terms& condition you don't usually read, screenshot)

Beware of those you call friends, including META
Re: If Whatsapp Messages Are Encrypted End To End, How Then Do They Leak? by MrSensor(m): 5:52pm On Apr 18, 2022
AdeniyiA:


Why don't you just correct it and explain your own understanding of the topic posted instead of attacking personality. Grow up bro
which bro?

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