EgunMogaji2:


Try to watch this YouTube channel for inspiration.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSWldaT-AE

Personally, I dropped the ball by going along with the Nigerian nonsense.

FEGEITOK:
It is not always what is said it is also the implications of what is done.

If a third party sees a gang of motor park touts appear around a vehicle driven by a non member of the park to force his away for stopping to pick a passenger in front of their park does it matter that there was no prearrangement?

Didn't they gather together to achieve the same purpose at the same time?

I never used mob action in the meaning under US law.

Mob action is when a group of people come together to enforce their own version of right over another.

If it happens online it can be called an online mob or cyber bullying.

Check cyber bullying under Nigerian Law.

FEGEITOK:
It is not always what is said it is also the implications of what is done.

If a third party sees a gang of motor park touts appear around a vehicle driven by a non member of the park to force his away for stopping to pick a passenger in front of their park does it matter that there was no prearrangement?

Didn't they gather together to achieve the same purpose at the same time?

I never used mob action in the meaning under US law.

Mob action is when a group of people come together to enforce their own version of right over another.

If it happens online it can be called an online mob or cyber bullying.

Check cyber bullying under Nigerian Law.

EgunMogaji2:
The art of deflection.

EgunMogaji2:
The art of deflection.

The offender has now become the victim.

Stopthecap:



You are still here with all your legal mumbo jumbo

From mob action to flash mob to cyber mobbing to harassment to intimidation and harassment..

So it is not what is said now...it is implication hmmmm......

Please get your facts straight and illustrate clearly how I and by extension "the mob" you claim I am a part-of have bullied here

I will soon start charging you for legal advice

DUNKA:

Oga I tell you. The offender has now become the victim.

God pass them. This deflection and distraction tactics has long been deep rooted here on this forum and some useless garbage and rubbish being spewed out above just goes to show that Buhari/ APC are not the problem with Nigeria

FEGEITOK:
It doesn't matter whether the bullying is from the side of the vendor or the client.

I deal with principles, either way the same principles apply, it is wrong.

THE MOB ACTION, CYBERBULLYING, HARRASMENT, INTIMIDATION etc WILL CONTINUE

bolu1986:
Screeded ceiling slate...

FEGEITOK:
It doesn't matter whether the bullying is from the side of the vendor or the client.

I deal with principles, either way the same principles apply, it is wrong.

Once you determine a principle in law, all you need to do next is to find fact pattern matches.

issue #1: a vendor is owing a client

issue #2: the client asked the vendor to pay

issue#3: the vendor is either unable to pay or is refusing to pay

issue#4: the client said the vendor will have no peace until the vendor pays

issue#5: the vendor has sympathizers that insist that acting in concert with the client they will ensure the vendor has no peace until he pays the client

issue#6: ever since the public statements to the above above, see issue#5, whenever the vendor posts, the client and sympathetic monikers always post disclaimers, innuendoes, etc?

What is wrong then with calling the actions of the client and the sympathetic monikers mob action? online mobbing? cyber bullying

Is it impossible to discuss the action by itself (the actus reus) without the motive (mens rea)?

I said it from the get-go, that I am not concerned with the state of the mind of the posters but the actions of the posters.

The actions of the posters constitute mob action against the vendor, one or more of them have made posts to that effect in the past.

Don't just have the time to dig those posts out.

It is what is it, unpalatable as it maybe.

Even in the courts, the judges will take a look at both the actions and the state of mind individually and separately before attempting to make inferences from considering both together.

End of discussion

I come from a long line of lawyers on both sides of the family, so forgive me for seeing things legally and not just morally.

That said, I hope and pray the vendor resolves the contractual dispute with the client ASAP, I said that much in the past, that is my position today.

But two wrongs do not make a right, and it is my duty to spot the wrong when I see it
EDITED

EgunMogaji2:


I paid N204K for 20 tons in Ibadan this month. I wonder what the net effect of this will be. Will people be building smaller structures or construction will become stagnant?

Prices are going up all across the board. My mason team grudgingly accepted N65/block instead of the N50/block that I paid pre Covid.

MMotimo:
Rollcall of “known” victims. Just a reminder that is a fairly short list and just the ones I know. I have no doubt there are more.

Real people, millions lost and now the perpetrator is back to hunt and haunt more prey. Only a sociopath does that! But how is he not emboldened when his fraud has been delicately described as “non classical fraud.” Cry the beloved country! Now, we know fraud can be differentiated as “not fraud in the classical definition of fraud” What!!! Packaging the Naija way smh. Any wonder brabus / n3xt is back for new victims now that someone who did not lose millions to him can excuse his atrocities as poor management skills.


https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2063#100083033

Of course, n3xt/ brabusng / brabus / kobocity would not be a victim of jealousy and envy if he doesn’t remind us of his phantom “haters, other builders and competitors “ as if his return has caused any reputable builder here to lose business. What a joke!

The real builders are currently sleeping, trying to get some rest because there’s actual site visits to be completed tomorrow. Only laptop internet builders stay up till now to act as judge and jury of their own case to save their skin. It’s the price of internet shenanigans to lure in unsuspecting Nigerians.

FEGEITOK:
For the records, I have asked the vendor to show good faith, I have asked him to make partial payments if he is unable to make payment in full, I have also asked him to consult a lawyer.

Check those words against my moniker. The relevant posts will appear

I have said before actions and inactions can create legal obligations. That A doesn't realize this doesn't mean that B will not. That C does not take action doesn't mean D will not take action to enforce his or her rights.

What I will not do is post the above everytime the vendor posts, I will not engage in such collective action, my license to practice is too important to join those who know no better to do what is patently wrong.

I came from a background in which words are currency, so I pick and choose my words very carefully.

I insist that the words "mob action" apply to the matter at hand. Every word or phrase has several meanings and I have clarified that the meaning under American law which makes it a crime is not my meaning, I used it in it's plain literal meaning and not legal meaning.

If there is any legal meaning attached under Nigerian Law, then the appropriate word is "cyber bullying" and there have been cases in that regard that you can look up to see if they don't apply.

EgunMogaji2:


Which is why I've been silent because it'll turn into an EgunMogaji tun ti zeh thing. Anyways my thread is still up despite several high level attempts to remove it.

twinskenny:
Video on my what'sapp status
This guy enter within second

Carmal90:


Omo..

Plain all the way then.

mufutau55:


I saw it. Those burglary holes are too wide.

"Monkey jump from one tree to the other because the trees are close, if not close, let the monkey jump".
Toto o.

Hajji M.

FEGEITOK:
For the records, I have asked the vendor to show good faith, I have asked him to make partial payments if he is unable to make payment in full, I have also asked him to consult a lawyer.

Check those words against my moniker. The relevant posts will appear

I have said before actions and inactions can create legal obligations. That A doesn't realize this doesn't mean that B will not. That C does not take action doesn't mean D will not take action to enforce his or her rights.

What I will not do is post the above everytime the vendor posts, I will not engage in such collective action, my license to practice is too important to join those who know no better to do what is patently wrong.

I came from a background in which words are currency, so I pick and choose my words very carefully.

I insist that the words "mob action" apply to the matter at hand. Every word or phrase has several meanings and I have clarified that the meaning under American law which makes it a crime is not my meaning, I used it in it's plain literal meaning and not legal meaning.

If there is any legal meaning attached under Nigerian Law, then the appropriate word is "cyber bullying" and there have been cases in that regard that you can look up to see if they don't apply.

sonnie10:

Please, stop over at my place for breakfast. Bill is on me.

KelvinCoaster:

Iriruaga100:
Na only thief dey support thief!!

somehow:


When it's time to put their money where their mouth is, they will disappear but come here to preach or label those who has chosen to expose and warn potential victims about a certain known character.

Today is 20th, rather than type epistle, you can as well help him out or just give him a project he can use the money to pay up the one he was paid before but spent.

Even with all the evidence(s) scattered all over Nairaland, they rather bury their heads in the sand and start asking silly questions answered multiple times already.

Nonsense upon nonsense.

I know the excuses I'm dealing with offline, that I'm quiet here does not give any bloody person not affected by the matter the right to dance in my garden.

Iriruaga100:
Na only thief dey support thief!!

GoodFaith:

Repeat after me
"only thief dey support thief!!["
"only thief dey support thief!![

DUNKA:
Stay the course. Wicked people everywhere. Dont give up until N3xt/Brabus/Bosun does the right thing by refunding your hard earned money. Maximum pressure must be applied as he is feeling the heat.

They want silence so Bosun continues where he left off as if all is well.

This 2022 go choke