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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:54pm On May 03, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Another deluded epl fan boy

I love how Luís diaz is faring at the epl

Don't mind them jare
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:55pm On May 03, 2022
Hanibal:
As at December 2021, Luiz Diaz was part of the Porto team, and according to Komekn back then he( Diaz) isn't good enough to make the Fulham team grin

Oga komekn comments sometimes Sha

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:02am On May 04, 2022
BascoVanVeli:



Tammy had 6 goals and 2 assists for Chelsea in the league, Iheanacho has 4 goals and 5 assists.
My point is simple...Tammy had limited games still highest goal scorer with Chelsea and move to Roma.Iheanacho based on his good stats despite limited appearance should move.... am not comparing the duo but using Tammy situation as a reference point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:07am On May 04, 2022
Blueelf:


At least we didn't buy Duaz with over 80m Euros unlike a certain Grealish

# Fraudiola

Long time my bro grin grin grin
As for grealish guardiola no try

Na City board buy am though ,pep didn’t really want him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 12:09am On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:

As for grealish guardiola no try

Na City board buy am though ,pep didn’t really want him

That's england for you

They know how to hype average players

That's why one Uncle here said Diaz won't make Fulham team and Porto will be beaten by Leicester

grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 1:21am On May 04, 2022
chrisooblog:
Bro you just can't dismiss how a better environment will impact on how good a player will turn out.

Do you know how many incredibly gifted kids that play on the streets who were never discovered just because of the poor environment we live in?

Messi that we all praise was it not a better Spanish system that brought him to limelight. Someone that had a health condition if not for Barcelona that paid for his medical treatment would we even know such a player exists?

Let's even talk other sports Divine Oduduro never ran sub 10 or 20 seconds when he was in Nigeria immediately he went to America for stu

I have no problem with Abraham but I'm just being factual that being born in a country that is developed has given him access to opportunities that have seriously boosted his career.


You guys are really funny on this arguement. How can you think wearing booths and having a father to drop you off at your football academy is the criteria to succeed in football.

Look at it this way. It's like academics where a rich parents pays for the best school for a child and a poor parent manages to send the child to a public school or a village school. What's gonna be the outcome of this. The answer is very easy as each person here can simply conduct that analysis on his or herself. That you are attending the most expensive secondary school in Nigeria is an investment in a child's future simply because of the exposure it brings along. That you have attended a public school or village school is based on the individuals ability to display extraordinary academic performance to boost his chances of moving forward to the university and getting a good job.

If you are the rich normal kid, you will go to a university ( which is like the soccer booths) you will get a degree and if you are intellectually gifted get a job without the influence of your parents. If you aren't so bright you might need the connection of your parent to secure a job( like how English players always get offers and loans easily even when they don't perform well in the current club)

If you are the public school chap in the university, who still manages to hold on to excellence in academic performance you must be really exceptional for that academics achievement to bring you a great job that totally liberates your family from poverty ( think that Nigerian working in big tech or Silicon Valley like Microsoft , google or Wall Street , or big oil firm) think of that one guy from university days who got such jobs on pure merit ( think about every Nigerian player who worked his way playing football in Nigeria before making headlines at the Dailies or national tv) it couldn't have been easy to be mikel obj at Chelsea or iheanacho at Manchester city (they both conquered the world by their hardwork respectively at under 20 for former and under 17 for the latter winning their nation laurels)

But the bottom line is , how many rich kids get good jobs after attending expensive and supposed good schools today? How many English players are in the first team of the top six teams of the EPL. The truth is everyone wants the best and whatever opportunity you are presented with in life it will always be up to you to make the best out of it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 1:53am On May 04, 2022
M7even:


You guys are really funny on this arguement. How can you think wearing booths and having a father to drop you off at your football academy is the criteria to succeed in football.

Look at it this way. It's like academics where a rich parents pays for the best school for a child and a poor parent manages to send the child to a public school or a village school. What's gonna be the outcome of this. The answer is very easy as each person here can simply conduct that analysis on his or herself. That you are attending the most expensive secondary school in Nigeria is an investment in a child's future simply because of the exposure it brings along. That you have attended a public school or village school is based on the individuals ability to display extraordinary academic performance to boost his chances of moving forward to the university and getting a good job.

If you are the rich normal kid, you will go to a university ( which is like the soccer booths) you will get a degree and if you are intellectually gifted get a job without the influence of your parents. If you aren't so bright you might need the connection of your parent to secure a job( like how English players always get offers and loans easily even when they don't perform well in the current club)

If you are the public school chap in the university, who still manages to hold on to excellence in academic performance you must be really exceptional for that academics achievement to bring you a great job that totally liberates your family from poverty ( think that Nigerian working in big tech or Silicon Valley like Microsoft , google or Wall Street , or big oil firm) think of that one guy from university days who got such jobs on pure merit ( think about every Nigerian player who worked his way playing football in Nigeria before making headlines at the Dailies or national tv) it couldn't have been easy to be mikel obj at Chelsea or iheanacho at Manchester city (they both conquered the world by their hardwork respectively at under 20 for former and under 17 for the latter winning their nation laurels)

But the bottom line is , how many rich kids get good jobs after attending expensive and supposed good schools today? How many English players are in the first team of the top six teams of the EPL. The truth is everyone wants the best and whatever opportunity you are presented with in life it will always be up to you to make the best out of it.
This is nothing but the truth, regardless of where a player is born they still need to put it the necessary effort to succeed as professionals even in the UK there are players who were very good art youth level but with time they fade away to obscurity.
Jordon Ibe is an example, Reece Wabara of Man City had to abandon football to start up his clothing business

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 4:36am On May 04, 2022
M7even:


You guys are really funny on this arguement. How can you think wearing booths and having a father to drop you off at your football academy is the criteria to succeed in football.

Look at it this way. It's like academics where a rich parents pays for the best school for a child and a poor parent manages to send the child to a public school or a village school. What's gonna be the outcome of this. The answer is very easy as each person here can simply conduct that analysis on his or herself. That you are attending the most expensive secondary school in Nigeria is an investment in a child's future simply because of the exposure it brings along. That you have attended a public school or village school is based on the individuals ability to display extraordinary academic performance to boost his chances of moving forward to the university and getting a good job.

If you are the rich normal kid, you will go to a university ( which is like the soccer booths) you will get a degree and if you are intellectually gifted get a job without the influence of your parents. If you aren't so bright you might need the connection of your parent to secure a job( like how English players always get offers and loans easily even when they don't perform well in the current club)

If you are the public school chap in the university, who still manages to hold on to excellence in academic performance you must be really exceptional for that academics achievement to bring you a great job that totally liberates your family from poverty ( think that Nigerian working in big tech or Silicon Valley like Microsoft , google or Wall Street , or big oil firm) think of that one guy from university days who got such jobs on pure merit ( think about every Nigerian player who worked his way playing football in Nigeria before making headlines at the Dailies or national tv) it couldn't have been easy to be mikel obj at Chelsea or iheanacho at Manchester city (they both conquered the world by their hardwork respectively at under 20 for former and under 17 for the latter winning their nation laurels)

But the bottom line is , how many rich kids get good jobs after attending expensive and supposed good schools today? How many English players are in the first team of the top six teams of the EPL. The truth is everyone wants the best and whatever opportunity you are presented with in life it will always be up to you to make the best out of it.
oga I don't know how this is becoming rocket science for some of us here to comprehend the point goodjoe is making, two people putting the same level of hard work, one attending the best school and the other a village school, both doing very well, who do you think will get a better job. A player doing very well in say arsenal academy and another player doing very well in one local academy in Nigeria, who do you think have an edge. Better opportunity will always have the upper hand whatever way you choose to look at it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 4:40am On May 04, 2022
Karlovych:
This is nothing but the truth, regardless of where a player is born they still need to put it the necessary effort to succeed as professionals even in the UK there are players who were very good art youth level but with time they fade away to obscurity.
Jordon Ibe is an example, Reece Wabara of Man City had to abandon football to start up his clothing business
nobody is saying a UK base player don't need to put in effort. We are saying someone in Nigeria putting in the same effort with someone in said UK, will never yield the same result.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 5:05am On May 04, 2022
zicky:
nobody is saying a UK base player don't need to put in effort. We are saying someone in Nigeria putting in the same effort with someone in said UK, will never yield the same result.
The UK system is more organized than the Nigerian one, a lot of EPL teams have scouts that help identify potential talents and sign them up to their teams even before they become teenagers.

Until recently most Nigerian teams didn't even have a youth side or an academy so it is always going to be a difficult hurdle for an aspiring footballer to overcome.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:17am On May 04, 2022
Karlovych:
This is nothing but the truth, regardless of where a player is born they still need to put it the necessary effort to succeed as professionals even in the UK there are players who were very good art youth level but with time they fade away to obscurity.
Jordon Ibe is an example, Reece Wabara of Man City had to abandon football to start up his clothing business

I do not understand all this long story. A player has a chance to get a shot at playing for Chelsea because of his talent and hardwork. Another has little to zero chance of getting into Chelsea even if his is twice as talented and hard-working as a kid in England because he was born in Nigeria.

Yet you people want to equate it as the same opportunity. Haba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:19am On May 04, 2022
Karlovych:
The UK system is more organized than the Nigerian one, a lot of EPL teams have scouts that help identify potential talents and sign them up to their teams even before they become teenagers.

Until recently most Nigerian teams didn't even have a youth side or an academy so it is always going to be a difficult hurdle for an aspiring footballer to overcome.



That is the point. It is not worth the long debate. It is far harder for a kid born in Nigeria when compared to a kid born into the English system.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 5:52am On May 04, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I do not understand all this long story. A player has a chance to get a shot at playing for Chelsea because of his talent and hardwork. Another has little to zero chance of getting into Chelsea even if his is twice as talented and hard-working as a kid in England because he was born in Nigeria.

Yet you people want to equate it as the same opportunity. Haba.
I get your point though, it's just left for the players to continue to work hard for themselves and put in the needed effort to actualize their dreams.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 7:33am On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:

Another deluded epl fan boy
I love how Luís diaz is faring at the epl
I'm not an epl fan boy

thats just the truth
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 7:36am On May 04, 2022
Blueelf:


That's why one Uncle here said Diaz won't make Fulham team and Porto will be beaten by Leicester

grin grin grin
and why do you think Leicester can't beat them?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:44am On May 04, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I do not understand all this long story. A player has a chance to get a shot at playing for Chelsea because of his talent and hardwork. Another has little to zero chance of getting into Chelsea even if his is twice as talented and hard-working as a kid in England because he was born in Nigeria.

Yet you people want to equate it as the same opportunity. Haba.
Oga Joe,Mikel Obi was born here but Man utd and Chelsea fought over him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 7:45am On May 04, 2022
But matter of fact Komekn has nothing against Porto, the fact that a Nigerian made left back aka Zaidu Sanusi is consistently starting games at a supposedly top European club like Porto was giving him sleepless nights, a Nigerian born and bred left back can't possibly be quality, it doesn't make sense, so problem had to be Porto, Porto had to be a useless team, infact so useless it is the equivalence of mid table championship teams.
Hence the Fulham comparisms. grin
The day Sanusi leaves Porto, and Porto signs Fred onyedinma or any of his carpenter init boys, the narrative will change cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 7:54am On May 04, 2022
even West Ham go beat Porto


Abi nor be Lyon remove Porto for Europa league


the same Lyon way West Ham trash
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 8:17am On May 04, 2022
It's simple really let's all not put our children in the best schools or hire the best tutors for them. Tell them to rely in their innate ability to succeed abi? grin

Whatever struggle kids in academies have over there Nigerian kids have 10x worse. At least such kids have quality academies where they are dropped off. Most Nigerian kids don't even have access to academies to go to before we even talk about quality.

M7even:


You guys are really funny on this arguement. How can you think wearing booths and having a father to drop you off at your football academy is the criteria to succeed in football.

Look at it this way. It's like academics where a rich parents pays for the best school for a child and a poor parent manages to send the child to a public school or a village school. What's gonna be the outcome of this. The answer is very easy as each person here can simply conduct that analysis on his or herself. That you are attending the most expensive secondary school in Nigeria is an investment in a child's future simply because of the exposure it brings along. That you have attended a public school or village school is based on the individuals ability to display extraordinary academic performance to boost his chances of moving forward to the university and getting a good job.

If you are the rich normal kid, you will go to a university ( which is like the soccer booths) you will get a degree and if you are intellectually gifted get a job without the influence of your parents. If you aren't so bright you might need the connection of your parent to secure a job( like how English players always get offers and loans easily even when they don't perform well in the current club)

If you are the public school chap in the university, who still manages to hold on to excellence in academic performance you must be really exceptional for that academics achievement to bring you a great job that totally liberates your family from poverty ( think that Nigerian working in big tech or Silicon Valley like Microsoft , google or Wall Street , or big oil firm) think of that one guy from university days who got such jobs on pure merit ( think about every Nigerian player who worked his way playing football in Nigeria before making headlines at the Dailies or national tv) it couldn't have been easy to be mikel obj at Chelsea or iheanacho at Manchester city (they both conquered the world by their hardwork respectively at under 20 for former and under 17 for the latter winning their nation laurels)

But the bottom line is , how many rich kids get good jobs after attending expensive and supposed good schools today? How many English players are in the first team of the top six teams of the EPL. The truth is everyone wants the best and whatever opportunity you are presented with in life it will always be up to you to make the best out of it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 8:24am On May 04, 2022
bros the thing tire me self
TheGoodJoe:


I do not understand all this long story. A player has a chance to get a shot at playing for Chelsea because of his talent and hardwork. Another has little to zero chance of getting into Chelsea even if his is twice as talented and hard-working as a kid in England because he was born in Nigeria.

Yet you people want to equate it as the same opportunity. Haba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:43am On May 04, 2022
Blueelf:


That's england for you

They know how to hype average players

That's why one Uncle here said Diaz won't make Fulham team and Porto will be beaten by Leicester

grin grin grin
the same way they hv been forcing Declan rice to United via their media cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:46am On May 04, 2022
Samueltemi337:
even West Ham go beat Porto


Abi nor be Lyon remove Porto for Europa league


the same Lyon way West Ham trash

And Frankfurt beat westham

Ogogoro analysis and too much capping

Frankfurt also beat Barca and I guess they are better than Barca and even taiwo Awoniyi Union Berlin is better than Barca because they beat Frankfurt

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by VillageBus(m): 8:50am On May 04, 2022
chrisooblog:
It's simple really let's all not put our children in the best schools or hire the best tutors for them. Tell them to rely in their innate ability to succeed abi? grin

Whatever struggle kids in academies have over there Nigerian kids have 10x worse. At least such kids have quality academies where they are dropped off. Most Nigerian kids don't even have access to academies to go to before we even talk about quality.

this one you are shouting Access to academy, did anybody stopped the nigerian kids from joining any local team close to them?
Simply join the feeders team of any npfl team in the state you stay, but no aspiring footballers in Nigeria want to move from there father's house to Europe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 9:07am On May 04, 2022
Super Eagles’ incoming boss Jose Peseiro has reportedly identified eight players who he will look to build his team around ahead of the 2023 Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) Qualifiers.

With the Nigeria Football Federation set to officially announce the new Super Eagles boss, the Portuguese is believed to be keeping a close eye on the current situation and has plans in place.

According to insiders, Peseiro has already identified a core group of players who he believes he can trust at Super Eagles going forward, and the 62-year-old intends to give young players opportunities too.

Maduka Okoye, whose performances have come under fire in recent times, has been studied by Peseiro in recent weeks and the Portuguese intends to try and get the best out of the Watford bound goalkeeper.

The former Al Ahly boss will try to integrate Ademola Lookman, Akinkunmi Amoo and Calvin Bassey to the national team set up very well.

Others are Moses Simon, Wilfred Ndidi, Joe Aribo and Victor Osimhen.

Peseiro is also committed to give Nigeria Professional Football League stars the chance to shine in his team. Copied from futbalgalore.com.ng
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 9:24am On May 04, 2022
So joining Enyimba feeder team is the same as playing in Chelsea academy? Please tell me more.

VillageBus:
this one you are shouting Access to academy, did anybody stopped the nigerian kids from joining any local team close to them?
Simply join the feeders team of any npfl team in the state you stay, but no aspiring footballers in Nigeria want to move from there father's house to Europe.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 9:43am On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:


And Frankfurt beat westham

Ogogoro analysis and too much capping

Frankfurt also beat Barca and I guess they are better than Barca and even taiwo Awoniyi Union Berlin is better than Barca because they beat Frankfurt
Na you bring that leg Na


because Diaz dey perform for Liverpool nor mean say Porto go perform well for premier league


Abi this one nor be ogogoro analysis too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:45am On May 04, 2022
Samueltemi337:
Na you bring that leg Na


because Diaz dey perform for Liverpool nor mean say Porto go perform well for premier league


Abi this one nor be ogogoro analysis too

Only the epl big boys are better than Porto and that’s a fact .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 9:48am On May 04, 2022
Na wa so much argument going on no body won gree Blue font Sha won win every argument yet some people know gree grin grin grin

For me opportunity lies in every Conner of the world wether USA or Zimbabwe as long as you kick the round leather so good someone will notice you and give you the necessary support to get to the top, players are emerging in the slum in an unknown country while top talents are being wasted even in the most advanced country simply because there isn't a perfect system all you need is grace and someone who would take you to the top wink
Abeg I know want argument na my own I talk cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 10:00am On May 04, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Only the epl big boys are better than Porto and that’s a fact .
just your opinion
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:07am On May 04, 2022
If his hypocrisy was electricity it would easily power Nigeria two times over.
Hanibal:
As at December 2021, Luiz Diaz was part of the Porto team, and according to Komekn back then he( Diaz) isn't good enough to make the Fulham team grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Koboko99(m): 10:15am On May 04, 2022
I think so many monikers here just analyse football based on what they see on tv. Many didn't play the game at a serious level or don't understand how things work in this country.

You think it's that easy for a 10 years old to just go walk to an NPFL team and Join feeders team or academy.

In your state of residence, how many teams are in the NPFL, NNL or how many academies are in your state?

Do you know how many the number of football clubs and academies in London alone?

In Nigeria 80% of what we call academies and local football clubs are just gatherings at the field of a primary or secondary schools every evening. No proper structure, no equipments, no good facilities..... NOTHING!!!

Back then we couldn't even afford bips, one set will have to wear clothes while the opponents will play bare chested just to differentiate them. I'm not even talking about boots, cones or even balls.

Komekn even talked about kids being depressed that they can't make it into chelsea academy...i laughed. How many times have you heard enyimba or Kano pillars having academy trials

I've seen exceptional talents rot in Nigeria because the opportunities are non existent, no godfather, no connections.

In England if you're talented, disciplined, hardworking etc, there a very high chance you'll have at least a decent career, you can have all that and more in Nigeria and still rot. Na only annual community end of the year tournaments them go see your talent grin grin

If a player fails a trial in Chelsea, he can still play in Luton, Burton, Shrewsbury, Salford or go to Wales, Ireland or Scotland.....Even other countries in Europe.

The difference is very clear....what we call opportunities here are almost non existent!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 10:40am On May 04, 2022
zicky:
oga I don't know how this is becoming rocket science for some of us here to comprehend the point goodjoe is making, two people putting the same level of hard work, one attending the best school and the other a village school, both doing very well, who do you think will get a better job. A player doing very well in say arsenal academy and another player doing very well in one local academy in Nigeria, who do you think have an edge. Better opportunity will always have the upper hand whatever way you choose to look at it.

My brother, we come from a poverty driven society where football is a means to an end. Even academics is also a means to an end here. A friend on mine had a scholarship to Oxford for his masters degree in law. His roommate a British, who was running his masters in theoretical physics asked my friend his intention after college. My friend's goal was straight forward being an A student he hopped to secure a job in a multinational oil firm which he eventually did , while his roommate was just to maximize his God given talent by merely acquiring the degree and retiring to his fathers country side farm.

My point is if a young kid in Europe has an opportunity to play in an academy simply because he was born there , so long as that kid grows and his mettle doesn't reach the desires of an ambitious club he is dropped.

World beaters like Saido Mane who grew up playing in African villages realized what football meant to them. Average yet hungry players like Tammy Abraham who were opportuned in a supportive environment realized how much commitment they must put in to get to where they are. Does Tammy look perfect despite all the opportunities ? Of course not, there are many loop holes in his game but he has excelled amongst hundreds of his young colleagues to be where he is.

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