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Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by 1stGenAmerican(f): 6:42am On May 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin U are so ignorant!
I shud stop wasting my time quoting ur fake posts

Your attempt to insult me tell me you don’t have answers. Goodbye sir

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Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Topmaike007(m): 7:04am On May 16, 2022
gambojimeta:

Putin can't finish small Ukraine and has exhausted his military capabilities. It would be suicidal than to face either of Sweden or Finland. Best he can use is the nuclear weapon and multiple nuclear would land in Russia in return.
and then world war begins
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by loswhite(m): 7:06am On May 16, 2022
ocelot2006:
@ OP and the Team Slava Ukraine, before you celebrate, mbok I URGE YOU all to take a break and look at the battlefield map, especially at the Kharkiv front. Maybe then reality will hit in. A few things to note:

(1)The Ukrainians never launched any successful counter-attack that helped them recapture territories around Kharkiv. Contrary to what's being touted around, some Russians units actually ceded ground voluntarily in tactical withdrawals to more defensible positions. The areas left by the Russians are what's now reoccupied by the Ukrainians and spurned as "recaptured".

(2)To be fair , the Ukrainians have reached the Russian boundary, BUUUUUUUUT the area "recaptured" is basically a tiny sliver of territory compared to what's still being held by the Russians.

(3) In a considerable area around same Kharkiv, the Russians just repulsed a Ukrainian push about a day ago.

(4) The whole "push" around Kharkiv is frankly considered strategically unimportant. Frankly it ties up Ukrainian units, preventing them from reinforcing beleaguered units in the East Donbass front.
Russian General from the bedroom....lol.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by loswhite(m): 7:10am On May 16, 2022
Igbofam:
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The height of Russian brainwash.

Which Russians are feeding Ukrainian? Is it the same Russians who stole Ukraine's grain from their storage and smuggled it to Syria 2 days ago?

Which Ukrainian soldiers are killing Russian POWs?

Which Russians are avoiding killing civilians? Is it the same Russians who shelled and massacred many civilians in Bucha?

Just so you know a captured Russian soldier is currently on trial in Ukraine for killing a civilian.

No Russian soldier is treating Ukrainian soldiers with respect. We have seen Ukrainian soldiers they killed by shooting them in the head with their hands tied behind their backs. Even one they killed and threw into a well.

Even Russian soldiers are being barbaric toward their own. A Russian commander shot and killed one of his soldiers because he was wounded and couldn't walk. He saw him as useless.

This is why they were able to send very young and ill equiped conscripts to war without regard of their safety and lives . Same reason why they keep lying to their parents about the deaths of their children.

Russians are barbarians
Don't waste your time on Russian Apologist.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by ocelot2006(m): 7:18am On May 16, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


Every time the Russian Army retreats from the failed takeover of a Ukrainian city, you guys try to convince us that the city was considered strategically unimportant. We know better, starting with Kiev. Which strategy includes retreating from the capital without leaving soldiers to occupy the entire city? Which Army would waste time and resources attacking cities that are ‘strategically unimportant’?
You know better, just like we know better.

I'm no military expert, but 'ever heard of a feign/distraction or tieing up an opponent's resource? Apart from that, if Kharkiv was strategically important, why won't the Russians push in more Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) to take the city of 2 million? Belgorod is just across the border after all. What you fail to understand is that:

(1)The objective is primarily the Donbass, not Kharkiv city.

(2)Invading/Trying to take over a large city, especially one of 2 MILLION, simply sucks up a whole lot of manpower and resource from the attacker to seize and hold as it as favours the defenders. A key example is Mariupol. The Russians can't afford that distraction, especially when they're effecting a number of pushes at the Donbass front.

(3) Believe it or not, the Russians have learnt lessons from the 1st phase of the war and are not eager to repeat past mistakes.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by ocelot2006(m): 7:20am On May 16, 2022
HardMirror:
you talk too much without making sense

Sorry Mr. "sensible". Please share your "wisdom"
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by 1stGenAmerican(f): 7:21am On May 16, 2022
ocelot2006:


I'm no military expert, but 'ever heard of a feign/distraction or tieing up an opponent's resource? Apart from that, if Kharkiv was strategically important, why won't the Russians push in more Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) to take the city of 2 million? Belgorod is just across the border after all. What you fail to understand is that:

(1)The objective is primarily the Donbass, not Kharkiv city.

(2)Invading/Trying to take over a large city, especially one of 2 MILLION, simply sucks up a whole lot of manpower and resource from the attacker to seize and hold as it as favours the defenders. A key example is Mariupol. The Russians can't afford that distraction, especially when they're effecting a number of pushes at the Donbass front.

(3) Believe it or not, the Russians have learnt lessons from the 1st phase of the war and are not eager to repeat past mistakes.

One question: if Kharkiv wasn’t important, why did the Russian army leave the last location to attack it?

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Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by samdede(m): 7:23am On May 16, 2022
Hmmm.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by ocelot2006(m): 7:29am On May 16, 2022
Techsupport:


when they are pursued out of Ukraine, You will still come and tell us that they made a tactical and orderly withdrawal from Ukraine, you will tell us that they have decided to go home because the special operation is over.

When the Ukrainians are able to carry out a proper mechanized counter-attack and actually push the Russians away from the Donbass region back to the border, then we'll talk. Until then no sensible person will consider Ukraine merely reoccupying areas already left by the Russians, who've carried out an orderly retreat to better defensible areas, a "successful counter-attack". That's unless you want to spin propaganda to make the Ukrainians and yourselves feel good.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Igbofam: 7:32am On May 16, 2022
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ocelot2006:


I'm no military expert, but 'ever heard of a feign/distraction or tieing up an opponent's resource? Apart from that, if Kharkiv was strategically important, why won't the Russians push in more Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) to take the city of 2 million? Belgorod is just across the border after all. What you fail to understand is that:

(1)The objective is primarily the Donbass, not Kharkiv city.

(2)Invading/Trying to take over a large city, especially one of 2 MILLION, simply sucks up a whole lot of manpower and resource from the attacker to seize and hold as it as favours the defenders. A key example is Mariupol. The Russians can't afford that distraction, especially when they're effecting a number of pushes at the Donbass front.

(3) Believe it or not, the Russians have learnt lessons from the 1st phase of the war and are not eager to repeat past mistakes.
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Trash!

So suddenly Russia is having manpower issues and cannot take over a city of just 2million people?

Thank you for confirming the OP.

Like I said, Russia are seriously having reinforcement issues so will keep getting overrun by the Ukrainian forces. They have no air dominance, they rely on long range artillery or cruise missiles which are counter productive because it means their infantry cannot move freely otherwise they would also get hit.

The Russians have not learned any lessons because Ukrainians are very smart. Taking out their commanders and colonels on the field leaves the Russians without leaders and their troops in disarray.

Russia was shelled out of Kharkiv in a counter offensive. They did not carry out a tactical withdrawal. They had to run for their lives
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Igbofam: 7:34am On May 16, 2022
ocelot2006:


When the Ukrainians are able to carry out a proper mechanized counter-attack and actually push the Russians away from the Donbass region back to the border, then we'll talk. Until then no sensible person will consider Ukraine merely reoccupying areas already left by the Russians, who've carried out an orderly retreat to better defensible areas, a "successful counter-attack". That's unless you want to spin propaganda to make the Ukrainians and yourselves feel good.

They are coming for Donbas. They already stopped 2 Russian offensives from SW AND SE donbas. The recapture of Donbas is inevitable
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by ocelot2006(m): 7:34am On May 16, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


One question: if Kharkiv wasn’t important, why did the Russian army leave the last location to attack it?

What last location? What I know is that at the start of the conflict, Russia actually pushed into Kharkiv city but were beaten back as they faced stiff resistance. Ever since then they've basically been shelling the city. In the 2nd Phase, they've not made any push into the city and they CLEARLY stated that liberating Donbass was the objective. Kharkiv city is not. Even at that, the Russians are still in the Kharkiv Oblast.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by adadike(f): 7:37am On May 16, 2022
Putin , I beg you in the name of our Lord Jesus and the blessed Virgin Mary , please swallow your ego and put an end to this needless war. Thousands are already dead and still counting and if you like it or not , one day, this yeye war go end then we will all look back in regret at all the things and lives we lost just over nothing
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by ocelot2006(m): 7:39am On May 16, 2022
Igbofam:


They are coming for Donbas. They already stopped 2 Russian offensives from SW AND SE donbas. The recapture of Donbas is inevitable

They've already tried last week by equally trying to cross the Donetsk river. They were badly beaten back will the Ukrainian pontoon bridge destroyed. Until they're able to cross that natural barrier and threaten the supply line that runs from Belgorod through Izyum, I will not hold my breath. Keep in mind that there's a Russian force still in front of them in same Kharkiv Oblast AND across the border in Belgorod.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by MichaelSokoto(m): 7:44am On May 16, 2022
Igbofam:
This thread confirms the other thread I posted today.

Russia is getting it very hot from the Ukrainian Ukrainian/American forces

https://www.nairaland.com/7127542/russia-losing-war-ukraine-equipment
Fixed!
cool
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Igbofam: 7:44am On May 16, 2022
ocelot2006:


They've already tried last week by equally trying to cross the Donetsk river. They were badly beaten back will the Ukrainian pontoon bridge destroyed. Until they're able to cross that natural barrier and threaten the supply line that runs from Belgorod through Izyum, I will not hold my breath. Keep in mind that there's a Russian force still in front of them in same Kharkiv Oblast AND across the border in Belgorod.

Also bear in mind that the Russian forces yesterday just tried to cross the inhulets river in central-eastern Ukraine and suffered a crushing and massive defeat at the hands of the Ukrainian forces.. cheesy

Ukraine is pushing hard and rolling all over the Russian forces.

Did Russian Telegram forget to tell you guys about that news?

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Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by 1stGenAmerican(f): 7:44am On May 16, 2022
ocelot2006:


What last location? What I know is that at the start of the conflict, Russia actually pushed into Kharkiv city but were beaten back as they faced stiff resistance. Ever since then they've basically been shelling the city. In the 2nd Phase, they've not made any push into the city and they CLEARLY stated that liberating Donbass was the objective. Kharkiv city is not. Even at that, the Russians are still in the Kharkiv Oblast.

Why waste time and ammunition in Kharkiv if it isn’t important?

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Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Agwotulumbe(f): 7:44am On May 16, 2022
adadike:
Putin , I beg you in the name of our Lord Jesus and the blessed Virgin Mary , please swallow your ego and put an end to this needless war. Thousands are already dead and still counting and if you like it or not , one day, this yeye war go end then we will all look back in regret at all the things and lives we lost just over nothing
come let's get married and have sex kiss
I want to get you pregnant immediately

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Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by sangresan(m): 7:59am On May 16, 2022
Seven US mercenaries who were fighting with Kiev forces in the Donbass region were killed at the Krasitel plant in Rubizhnoye city, Apty Alaudinov, an assistant to the head of Chechnya, told RIA Novosti on May 15.

Footage showing the passport of one of the slain mercenaries, Joseph Ward Clark, surfaced online earlier. Clark, a native of Washington who was born in 1987, was reportedly an agent of the US intelligence.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by fmonigent(m): 8:00am On May 16, 2022
Elvictor:
The moment I saw the username

I just know, nothing truth can come out of senseless individual grin grin

Give us your own version
Yeye dey smell
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by uchennaq(m): 8:00am On May 16, 2022
I hope those cowards on nairaland saw the video that is circulating everywhere on how Russian soldiers murdered two civilians by shooting them in the back as they were walking away after asking them for cigarettes.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by sangresan(m): 8:01am On May 16, 2022
A mass shooting took place in the City of Buffalo, in New York at a grocery store. 10 are dead, 3 are injured. The shooter is a self-proclaimed White Supremacist as stated in his manifesto. The shooter livestreamed his attack. On the first page he used the Symbol of the "Black Sun". The "Black Sun" symbol, is a hate symbol. This same symbol is used by the Nazi group The Azov Battalion in Ukraine. The shooter, goes over in detail what weapons he used and his gear, along with why he did the attack, and how he was going to carry it out. The attack is currently being investigated by law enforcement agencies as a terror attack and hate crime. The shooter is currently in custody.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Benny6944: 8:02am On May 16, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
Nonsense


Oh short up. Mariupool will be next. watch out
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by sangresan(m): 8:03am On May 16, 2022
Bloomberg: EU develops plan to buy gas from Russia without violating sanctions

The European Union intends to offer gas importers a solution that, on the one hand, allows them to avoid violating sanctions when buying fuel in Russia, and, on the other hand, to satisfy the requirements of the Russian Federation to pay in rubles.

The executive body of the EU at a closed meeting allowed the governments of European countries to open ruble accounts in Gazprombank and buy Russian gas. However, companies must make a clear statement that they consider their obligations fulfilled when they pay in euros or dollars in accordance with existing contracts. After that, European buyers should not require any action from Russia regarding payment.

The EU's executive body has told governments that the guidance will allow them to buy gas without violating anti-Russian sanctions.

According to Putin's decree, companies must open two accounts with Gazprombank - one in euros and one in rubles. At the same time, payments for gas are not credited until the conversion of euros into rubles.

Earlier it was reported that 20 European companies have already opened ruble accounts with Gazprombank, 14 have requested documents for opening an account, and 4 have already made a payment in rubles.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by DerrickzB: 8:04am On May 16, 2022
[quote author=Igbofam post=112866982][/quote]

Good morning child of hate, perdition and falsehood!! The izyum you said Ukraine has captured they are been whooped like a kid!! I wonder how you sleep and eat with lies running round in your mouth!! You said Ukraine is winning but see pictorial evidence that they are loosing badly!!! Try dey rest!!

Always post pictures to back up your claims and at least you could have some face here!!

Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by sangresan(m): 8:06am On May 16, 2022
See ya life..

Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Benny6944: 8:07am On May 16, 2022
Igbofam:


Are Russian troops still in Kharkiv or have the Ukrainian forces driven them out?

The OP is factual and you know it grin

Stop crying blood bro





What have Russians gained so far from the war?

Can you tell us? Only with time they will be wipped off Ukraine


Zelen made it clear, he can never negotiate with Russia until they leave d entire country. now Russia are begging for negotiation which won't happen
Incase you don't know, fin just announced joining NATO.

I thought your as$licking Rapi$t Russia Putin said he's gonna nuke them if such happens.. lol let's see how he does that.. oh now he now changed his coward mind that it will now matter on what infrastructure NATO builds in the border lol...

Georgia will soon join watch out.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Benny6944: 8:07am On May 16, 2022
Igbofam:


Are Russian troops still in Kharkiv or have the Ukrainian forces driven them out?

The OP is factual and you know it grin

Stop crying blood bro




What have Russians gained so far from the war?

Can you tell us? Only with time they will be wipped off Ukraine


Zelen made it clear, he can never negotiate with Russia until they leave d entire country. now Russia are begging for negotiation which won't happen
Incase you don't know, fin just announced joining NATO.

I thought your as$licking Rapi$t Russia Putin said he's gonna nuke them if such happens.. lol let's see how he does that.. oh now he now changed his coward mind that it will now matter on what infrastructure NATO builds in the border lol...

Georgia will soon join watch out.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by sangresan(m): 8:08am On May 16, 2022
US and other Western countries are running low on weapons already. Their stockpiles have been shipped to Ukraine and many of those weapons ended up captured by pro-Russian forces.
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Benny6944: 8:10am On May 16, 2022
Elvictor:
It is even from UK intelligence, the intelligence that couldn't get their drowning country out of inflation, and lack of money �� grin grin grin




Op short up... who has been reporting if it wasn't France,USA and uk satellite intelligence? has your overrated Russia made use of their poor satellites so far in this war? so why do you expect such report from Ukr at war with puppy Russia ?
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Asapchris(m): 8:11am On May 16, 2022
Elvictor:
The moment I saw the username

I just know, nothing truth can come out of senseless individual grin grin
Not every is a lie… try and confirm yourself
https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1525945367401009153?s=21&t=TXnTbJtxn8Sd_NdGObaGsQ
Re: Ukraine Has ‘won The Battle Of Kharkiv’ As War Reaches ‘tipping Point’ by Nodogragra4me(m): 8:12am On May 16, 2022
KillerCrocodile:
Putin's Russia would think twice or thrice before invading another country.

Zelensky troops should Finish all the Invaders.

The Overall Plan according to US Defense Secretary is, to weaken the Russian military that they would find it difficult to Invade another country.

Russia have lost more troops in 81 days of war in Ukraine than they lost in a decade of War in Afghanistan.

They can choose to deny the military Casualties, no problem...... We are used to their lies and denials.

Slava Ukraini....... Glory to the Heroes.




Russia will never be in a hurry to invade any country with NATO mad US support

Arms and ammunition is pouring into Ukraine on a daily basis

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