Thanos:

1- Basketball is the game of Hot tajes so I’ll oblige. Only during Luka’s rookie season was Steph above him in anything, since then, Luka has shown, and proven to be the better player. This is not a knock-on Steph, it’s just the reality. When Steph was asked to do more with less, just this last season, he put up otherworldly numbers only to be bounced in the play-in. The exact same situation Luka is in now, only that the baby Goat against all odds, managed to drag this sorry ass excuse for a team to the WCF.

Cap. Luka is not better than Jokic. I already said it here. Nobody in this current era of basketball can put up more numbers than Curry if he had that mamba mentality (because he shoots better than everyone at his worst). But mamba mentality won't make other players around you good and it certainly would not win you anything. Warriors roster in 2019-21 was the worst in the NBA back to back. 20-21 was only different because Steph was there to play compared to 2019-20 where he got hurt in game 2 or so and GSW won only 15 games.

To put this into context, that G-league warriors team only had scoreless Draymond during the play-in to compete with Lebron and AD and then Ja Morant and his Grizzlies and they lost by 1 point in both games. What's more? That Grizzlies team were awarded a 3-pt shot for a shot that reviews have shown was clearly 2-pt in OT where they won. So the Warriors were essentially cheated having put up more regular season wins than Dame and CJ, Lebron, AD and Westbrook etc. I can name better rosters that won less than the GSW team of last season.

Alot of you are getting a reality check this season. Media, pundits, fans alike. Not just concerning Steph, even Steve Kerr. Only Tim Legler can hoist his head high as he was the only one who never disrespected the warriors to garner click baits.

Don't get me wrong, Luka's day in the sun will come but he is not there yet.

Khanben:



Thank you, sometimes when I hear people talk, I wonder if they are watching tennis or golf.
This is a team sport, and they is nothing no one player can do if the other team is way better.
MJ has the highest points scored in a nba playoffs game at 63pts, but you know what, he not only lost that game, he was swept in that series. I watched KG go 3 straight years in his prime without making the playoffs, was that because he was not one of the best 5 players in basketball or because his team was just crap.
You swap Luka with Steph for both teams and the Mavs would have a worse chance of winning 1 game, than they have now.

PS: Steph team last year was not worse than this Mavs team and they couldn't even make the playoffs

We like to troll and sometimes are blinded by sentiments when it comes to teams and players that we like. Everyone loves a hero story, one man striving against the odds to victory. But even with how much the whole narrative of one man carrying his team to the championship, the reality is other people played their parts. The last one man show was dirk. That is why it is called a miracle run. Even with that, Jason terry outplayed dirk in many games during that run. Without him, my man's would still be ringless. So let's stop the cap. Some players are drafted into a perfect situation, with the perfect team and tend to underachieve, some player get drafted, become so good that it almost becomes a problem for their team ala, my mavs. Some players take a while to blossom, while some with great potential might end up battling demons on and off the court that would never let them realize their potential. But this is basketball. Shit would be boring if we tried to argue rationally hence, another hot take. Achievements of white/European players would always be discredited because they are white. They would never allow a white person become basketball's GOAT.

Khanben:



Thank you, sometimes when I hear people talk, I wonder if they are watching tennis or golf.
This is a team sport, and they is nothing no one player can do if the other team is way better.
MJ has the highest points scored in a nba playoffs game at 63pts, but you know what, he not only lost that game, he was swept in that series. I watched KG go 3 straight years in his prime without making the playoffs, was that because he was not one of the best 5 players in basketball or because his team was just crap.
You swap Luka with Steph for both teams and the Mavs would have a worse chance of winning 1 game, than they have now.

PS: Steph team last year was not worse than this Mavs team and they couldn't even make the playoffs

Absolute nonsense. If Phil Jackson had not changed Jordan's way of playing he would still have put up big numbers and lost in the playoffs to the Pistons and Celtics alike. His way of hunting his own shots was never going to make his team a winning one and Jordan adjusted. Then swapping Luka with Steph and the Mavs would be leading 3-0. How you affect winningness is not the shots you took or the points you garnered but how you got those points whilst maximizing the talents or lack of it around you. Without Steph's gravity, every body else on that GSW roster will play far worse than they currently are playing but we saw the Mavs roster play better against the Jazz without Luka. I won't even touch the completely bogus point about the GSW roster last season. That does not qualify as a basketball take.

Android22:
Cap. Luka is not better than Jokic. I already said it here. Nobody in this current era of basketball can put up more numbers than Curry if he had that mamba mentality (because he shoots better than everyone at his worst). But mamba mentality won't make other players around you good and it certainly would not win you anything. Warriors roster in 2019-21 was the worst in the NBA back to back. 20-21 was only different because Steph was there to play compared to 2019-20 where he got hurt in game 2 or so and GSW won only 15 games.

To put this into context, that G-league warriors team only had scoreless Draymond during the play-in to compete with Lebron and AD and then Ja Morant and his Grizzlies and they lost by 1 point in both games. What's more? That Grizzlies team were awarded a 3-pt shot for a shot that reviews have shown was clearly 2-pt in OT where they won. So the Warriors were essentially cheated having put up more regular season wins than Dame and CJ, Lebron, AD and Westbrook etc. I can name better rosters that won less than the GSW team of last season.

Alot of you are getting a reality check this season. Media, pundits, fans alike. Not just concerning Steph, even Steve Kerr. Only Tim Legler can hoist his head high as he was the only one who never disrespected the warriors to garner click baits.

Don't get me wrong, Luka's day in the sun will come but he is not there yet.

Like I said, there is no fun if we need to argue rationally. Jokic has an argument because of his 2 MVPS of which people can debate if he deserved them or not as the criteria seems to be changing any season. For Jokic, his ceiling is far lower than doncic's. You can watch him, see the holes i his game that needs improvement, only to realize this man has given you a 30 point triple double, with the win. It's apples and oranges. At the moment, i would say they are exchangeable but i'd give doncic the edge because i jokic can be very passive at times on the offense. Something that would never happen with doncic.
2-Also, lets stop with the whole warriors were robbed, cheated argument. Any team can make a case for one or two calls that changed their season. It's a lazy argument and i won't say further.
3-Curry can not play with mamba mentality because it would make him a worse player. No one would go near a shoot fiist PG who takes 40 shots, of which 20 are 3s no matter how good you are. So, it circles back to what I'm saying, the team construction, situation, and a host of other factors have to align to ensure you are successful. I'd say, no one was more important to the curry you are seeing now than Kerr. If not for him, i doubt we would be seeing curry in the same lighn now.

Thanos:

1- Basketball is the game of Hot tajes so I’ll oblige. Only during Luka’s rookie season was Steph above him in anything, since then, Luka has shown, and proven to be the better player. This is not a knock-on Steph, it’s just the reality. When Steph was asked to do more with less, just this last season, he put up otherworldly numbers only to be bounced in the play-in. The exact same situation Luka is in now, only that the baby Goat against all odds, managed to drag this sorry ass excuse for a team to the WCF.
2- Ya'll need to stop with the Jayson Tatum over hype. This man was drafted into one of the best-run organizations. Has been coached by some of the league's brightest minds, and has a team that is expected to make a run at the championship every year since he got to the league. Yet nothing to show for it. I put it to you that if JT had been drafted by a Cleveland, Kings, hell, even my Mavs, my man would be another Bradley Beal. A decent player putting numbers on a below-average team whose yearly target is to make the playoffs and get bounced in the first round. The kid is a star but is too inconsistent now to be called a superstar.
3- If you are a gambling man, few websites have the Mavs winning these series at +63 points. You are all about to witness the start of the greatest basketball story ever told. MAVS IN 7!!!!!

My friend shut up.
Until Luca wins a title, a scoring title, an unanimous MVP, he has not done anything.
For now, Luca is only a prospect who has achieved nothing. Infact he is still way below Dirk nowitski in the Dallas hierarchy.
BTW, I was talking about this series where he is minus 20. You guys came into the series claiming the white boy is the best player left in the playoffs. Now he is -20, has a lower FG%, lower 3pt%, and is about to get bounced.

Android22:
Absolute nonsense. If Phil Jackson had not changed Jordan's way of playing he would still have put up big numbers and lost in the playoffs to the Pistons and Celtics alike. His way of hunting his own shots was never going to make his team a winning one and Jordan adjusted. Then swapping Luka with Steph and the Mavs would be leading 3-0. How you affect winningness is not the shots you took or the points you garnered but how you got those points whilst maximizing the talents or lack of it around you. Without Steph's gravity, every body else on that GSW roster will play far worse than they currently are playing but we saw the Mavs roster play better against the Jazz without Luka. I won't even touch the completely bogus point about the GSW roster last season. That does not qualify as a basketball take.

So if we swap Luka with steph, the Mavs will be leading 3-0? Good one

PS: MJ got swept in 86 not because of Phil, but because his team was not good enough, heck Pippen had not even been drafted yet.
As for Phil Jackson, show me a team where he has won without having 2 all-nba caliber players. He his like every other great coach a product of the talent he had to work with.

Android22:
Absolute nonsense. If Phil Jackson had not changed Jordan's way of playing he would still have put up big numbers and lost in the playoffs to the Pistons and Celtics alike. His way of hunting his own shots was never going to make his team a winning one and Jordan adjusted. Then swapping Luka with Steph and the Mavs would be leading 3-0. How you affect winningness is not the shots you took or the points you garnered but how you got those points whilst maximizing the talents or lack of it around you. Without Steph's gravity, every body else on that GSW roster will play far worse than they currently are playing but we saw the Mavs roster play better against the Jazz without Luka. I won't even touch the completely bogus point about the GSW roster last season. That does not qualify as a basketball take.

Mavs played better against the jazz with Luka absent? Lol. So you are one of those people who believe role players playing far above their averages is sustainable because their best player was absent? You do know kleber was shooting 12/16 from across games 2 & 3. You think he could have maintained that? Bros. Stop it. Just stop it

Skrrrrrrr:


My friend shut up.
Until Luca wins a title, a scoring title, an unanimous MVP, he has not done anything.
For now, Luca is only a prospect who has achieved nothing. Infact he is still way below Dirk nowitski in the Dallas hierarchy.
BTW, I was talking about this series where he is minus 20. You guys came into the series claiming the white boy is the best player left in the playoffs. Now he is -20, has a lower FG%, lower 3pt%, and is about to get bounced.

He has done more for the Mavs in his first 4yrs than Dirk did is his first 10yrs with the team

Thanos:

Like I said, there is no fun if we need to argue rationally. Jokic has an argument because of his 2 MVPS of which people can debate if he deserved them or not as the criteria seems to be changing any season. For Jokic, his ceiling is far lower than doncic's. You can watch him, see the holes i his game that needs improvement, only to realize this man has given you a 30 point triple double, with the win. It's apples and oranges. At the moment, i would say they are exchangeable but i'd give doncic the edge because i jokic can be very passive at times on the offense. Something that would never happen with doncic.
2-Also, lets stop with the whole warriors were robbed, cheated argument. Any team can make a case for one or two calls that changed their season. It's a lazy argument and i won't say further.
3-Curry can not play with mamba mentality because it would make him a worse player. No one would go near a shoot fiist PG who takes 40 shots, of which 20 are 3s no matter how good you are. So, it circles back to what I'm saying, the team construction, situation, and a host of other factors have to align to ensure you are successful. I'd say, no one was more important to the curry you are seeing now than Kerr. If not for him, i doubt we would be seeing curry in the same lighn now.

I am not one of those staunch fans that are oblivious to the flaws of their players and coaches in sync. I may be Steve Kerr's greatest critic here but at the same time I won't let people under rank him. So do not take my response about Luka as my attempt to undermine him. He is legit. But he is simply not better than Jokic. He is not a more versatile scorer, passer and defender and he certainly does not make others better. He is just a basketball savant that needs coaching to take him to the next level. That is it.

And I am not making excuses about the warriors. Everyone keeps saying KDs foot is the reason Nets did not beat the Bucks last season because that 1 extra point would have won them the game. Well, if Memphis had not gotten that extra 1 point at the time of the game, GSW would have been fishing for a 2pt shot and not a 3 pt shot to close the deficit. These things go both ways.

Mamba mentality will make Curry a worse player in efficiency but he will average 38 ppg and what not. If Harden, AI and Kobe got hype for that, why not Curry? Everyone talks about team construction and all that good stuff but they forget that none of those things fell into place without Curry being the type of player that he was and had always been...selfless. Yet we praise Magic for his selflessness and then use that same selflessness to judge Curry, wrongly. It is flawed and common sense will fight it here to a standstill.

Khanben:


So if we swap Luka with steph, the Mavs will be leading 3-0? Good one

I might be histrionical but the Mavs will be leading the series. We have seen these things so many times. All of your pundits gave the Mavs 5 or 6 to win the series. They are down 3 now and of a sudden they don't have a roster. What a load of tosh.

Thanos:

Mavs played better against the jazz with Luka absent? Lol. So you are one of those people who believe role players playing far above their averages is sustainable because their best player was absent? You do know kleber was shooting 12/16 from across games 2 & 3. You think he could have maintained that? Bros. Stop it. Just stop it

So if they are not that good what made you predict Mavs in 5? And later 6?

Skrrrrrrr:


My friend shut up.
Until Luca wins a title, a scoring title, an unanimous MVP, he has not done anything.
For now, Luca is only a prospect who has achieved nothing. In fact, he is still way below Dirk Nowitzki in the Dallas hierarchy.
BTW, I was talking about this series where he is minus 20. You guys came into the series claiming the white boy is the best player left in the playoffs. Now he is -20, has a lower FG%, lower 3pt%, and is about to get bounced.

How many people have won a unanimous MVP? How many people have won a scoring title? So that is your criteria. You have somehow decided to remove other accolades like all NBA and all-star selections because it is rubbish abi. Bros, be calming down. Should I bring yo stephs plus and minus from last season? There's no point sef, baba did not make the playoffs so it's not a valid argument. If you cannot understand the role of building the right team, then go and be dragging your worst analyst award with keyshawn. My boy would be on his 3rd straight Nba first team. I don't even want to bring in the age argument. What had Steph achieved at 23? Eh. My boy's story has barely begun and he is already a lock for the HoF. GTFOH

Android22:
I might be histrionical but the Mavs will be leading the series. We have seen these things so many times. All of your pundits gave the Mavs 5 or 6 to win the series. They are down 3 now and of a sudden they don't have a roster. What a load of tosh.

One guy has a team with 4 Allstars and the other has a team with 1 allstar and all of a sudden his team is better. GSW has 3 players on a Max or super max contract, mavs have only 1. Poole has who is the 6th man has a better contract option than the mavs 2nd best player in Brunson . So all of a sudden the mavs are better
Get out of here with your crap

Android22:
I might be histrionical but the Mavs will be leading the series. We have seen these things so many times. All of your pundits gave the Mavs 5 or 6 to win the series. They are down 3 now and of a sudden they don't have a roster. What a load of tosh.

You have started. Most NBA analyst still had GSW to win. The ones that choose the mavs mainly said mavs in 6/7. Are GSW the better team? Yes. Is luka the best player on the court? Yes. Those two things do not have to be mutually exclusive bros.

Android22:
So if they are not that good what made you predict Mavs in 5? And later 6?

I am not nostradamus egbon. I made a prediction based on my opinion. The prediction failed. That's all. It's not that deep. Moreover, I am a mavs fan, were you expecting me to come and be saying GSW in 4?

Khanben:



PS: MJ got swept in 86 not because of Phil, but because his team was not good enough, heck Pippen had not even been drafted yet.
As for Phil Jackson, show me a team where he has won without having 2 all-nba caliber players. He his like every other great coach a product of the talent he had to work with.

Of course I am not arguing Jordan should have beat the 69 win Celtics with that roster. But I can guarantee you that the Bulls of 91-93 if somehow taken back in time to play that Celtics team would still have lost if MJ was shot hunting like he used to do before Phil. My post was not to undermine Jordan nor to big up Phil, it was to show that scoring 40 and 42 points of ISO- HEAVY basketball does not constitute to being better than the other player who is doing 31 and 32 points. You have to look at the whole scheme and story to see what is truly going on.

Khanben:



Thank you, sometimes when I hear people talk, I wonder if they are watching tennis or golf.
This is a team sport, and they is nothing no one player can do if the other team is way better.
MJ has the highest points scored in a nba playoffs game at 63pts, but you know what, he not only lost that game, he was swept in that series. I watched KG go 3 straight years in his prime without making the playoffs, was that because he was not one of the best 5 players in basketball or because his team was just crap.
You swap Luka with Steph for both teams and the Mavs would have a worse chance of winning 1 game, than they have now.

PS: Steph team last year was not worse than this Mavs team and they couldn't even make the playoffs

Cap.
The warriors team last year were the worst in the NBA. You guys should actually check stats and stop arguing blindly. That notwithstanding, they missed the playoffs because Steph missed significant time, the man only played 63games.
At times the best player on that Team was Draymond and a bunch of G Leaguers.
The warriors even now, are only a good team because Steph plays for them. His off ball movement and conditioning makes life easier for everybody. For all the talk about wiggins, he was a bust before coming to the warriors despite playing with Towns, lavine and even Butler. All players that would comfortably walk into this warriors roster.

Khanben:


One guy has a team with 4 Allstars and the other has a team with 1 allstar and all of a sudden his team is better. Get out of here with your crap

Who are the 4 all stars? Your own previous posts on this matter will be your judge.

Thanos:

You have started. Most NBA analyst still had GSW to win. The ones that choose the mavs mainly said mavs in 6/7. Are GSW the better team? Yes. Is luka the best player on the court? Yes. Those two things do not have to be mutually exclusive bros.

Luka is not the best player on the court. Curry is outplaying him badly. Most analysts did what about GSW? HAHAHA.

Thanos:

I am not nostradamus egbon. I made a prediction based on my opinion. The prediction failed. That's all. It's not that deep. Moreover, I am a mavs fan, were you expecting me to come and be saying GSW in 4?

So why are you then arguing upandan when you have accepted that your takes are purely just straight from the fire of your own emotions?

Android22:
I am not one of those staunch fans that are oblivious to the flaws of their players and coaches in sync. I may be Steve Kerr's greatest critic here but at the same time I won't let people under rank him. So do not take my response about Luka as my attempt to undermine him. He is legit. But he is simply not better than Jokic. He is not a more versatile scorer, passer and defender and he certainly does not make others better. He is just a basketball savant that needs coaching to take him to the next level. That is it.

And I am not making excuses about the warriors. Everyone keeps saying KDs foot is the reason Nets did not beat the Bucks last season because that 1 extra point would have won them the game. Well, if Memphis had not gotten that extra 1 point at the time of the game, GSW would have been fishing for a 2pt shot and not a 3 pt shot to close the deficit. These things go both ways.

Mamba mentality will make Curry a worse player in efficiency but he will average 38 ppg and what not. If Harden, AI and Kobe got hype for that, why not Curry? Everyone talks about team construction and all that good stuff but they forget that none of those things fell into place without Curry being the type of player that he was and had always been...selfless. Yet we praise Magic for his selflessness and then use that same selflessness to judge Curry, wrongly. It is flawed and common sense will fight it here to a standstill.

You know. I am beginning to to feel like you have an agenda against luka? Are you sure you've watched him play? The only area jokic has an edge, and that is if we can call it that is in defense. He doesn't make the team better? Literally every player on the mavs had their career years playing with luka. Not a better passer? Lol. Dude, the only reason doncic is not averaging 15 assists a game is because the guys he plays with are very streaky. Not a dynamic scorer? What is the meaning of that sef? He cn score on all three levels, averages more PPG than jokic? Help me out bro because I really don't understand that bolded statement. It's clear as day you do not watch the games so there's no nee dto force the issue.
Well, he could have averaged 40, and remain ringless with a boatload of all stars and All NBA second teams. A good player, but never great. Glad to see he was coached to another direction that made everyone on both sides winners.

Android22:
Of course I am not arguing Jordan should have beat the 69 win Celtics with that roster. But I can guarantee you that the Bulls of 91-93 if somehow taken back in time to play that Celtics team would still have lost if MJ was shot hunting like he used to do before Phil. My post was not to undermine Jordan nor to big up Phil, it was to show that scoring 40 and 42 points of ISO- HEAVY basketball does not constitute to being better than the other player who is doing 31 and 32 points. You have to look at the whole scheme and story to see what is truly going on.

The team in 91-93 had better players, that is why they won, Phil has never won without MJ, Shaq or Kobe in his team. That tells me it's not just his system, but also the caliber of players he had.
As for the Mavs, have you actually watched any of the games, or are you just reading box scores. Every single player on the Mavericks apart from Luka is a role player and that is a fact.

Thanos:

Like I said, there is no fun if we need to argue rationally. Jokic has an argument because of his 2 MVPS of which people can debate if he deserved them or not as the criteria seems to be changing any season. For Jokic, his ceiling is far lower than doncic's. You can watch him, see the holes i his game that needs improvement, only to realize this man has given you a 30 point triple double, with the win. It's apples and oranges. At the moment, i would say they are exchangeable but i'd give doncic the edge because i jokic can be very passive at times on the offense. Something that would never happen with doncic.
2-Also, lets stop with the whole warriors were robbed, cheated argument. Any team can make a case for one or two calls that changed their season. It's a lazy argument and i won't say further.
3-Curry can not play with mamba mentality because it would make him a worse player. No one would go near a shoot fiist PG who takes 40 shots, of which 20 are 3s no matter how good you are. So, it circles back to what I'm saying, the team construction, situation, and a host of other factors have to align to ensure you are successful. I'd say, no one was more important to the curry you are seeing now than Kerr. If not for him, i doubt we would be seeing curry in the same lighn now.

Cap cap cap.

Jokic does everything better than Doncic, I don't know what you ate this morning. Denver only look bad because they played the warriors. Jokic did better against the warriors than Luka is currently doing. Luca can't even defend to save his life.
If curry was a ball hogger like Luka, he'd win the scoring title every year.

Android22:
Who are the 4 all stars? Your own previous posts on this matter will be your judge.

Klay, Steph, Green and Wiggins. Have all been Allstars in this league

Android22:
So why are you the arguing upandan when you have accepted that your takes are purely just straight from the fire of your own emotions?

Not fire of emotions oga. Hindsight sha. Now everybody is yapping. If the series was 3-0 the other way round, we won't be having this argument. Hell, if my boys did not choke in GM2, we won't be here. It's your time. Enjoy abeg.

People can revise history no be small. I am hearing mamba mentality up and down. Show me where Kobe made it past the 2nd round with Shaq or Gasol with all his mamba mentality. Same Kobe that lost a finals to Billups and co, don't even get me started abeg

Thanos:

You know. I am beginning to to feel like you have an agenda against luka? Are you sure you've watched him play? The only area jokic has an edge, and that is if we can call it that is in defense. He doesn't make the team better? Literally every player on the mavs had their career years playing with luka. Not a better passer? Lol. Dude, the only reason doncic is not averaging 15 assists a game is because the guys he plays with are very streaky. Not a dynamic scorer? What is the meaning of that sef? He cn score on all three levels, averages more PPG than jokic? Help me out bro because I really don't understand that bolded statement. It's clear as day you do not watch the games so there's no nee dto force the issue.
Well, he could have averaged 40, and remain ringless with a boatload of all stars and All NBA second teams. A good player, but never great. Glad to see he was coached to another direction that made everyone on both sides winners.

Luka is not a more versatile scorer than Jokic. Luka is almost a 1 trick pony. Jokic can post you up, shoot the mid range, 3 pt etc. Jokic is a more versatile passer. Luka's passing game is predominantly collapse the defense and pass to the wings. If they make the shot, good or else nothing. Luka is just expected to score more than Jokic and he does it which is why he is great. If you want to talk about a wobbly roster, then you can make the argument for Jokic which is why he is the MVP. Until then, Luka is still up and coming.

Skrrrrrrr:


Cap cap cap.

Jokic does everything better than Doncic, I don't know what you ate this morning. Denver only look bad because they played the warriors. Jokic did better against the warriors than Luka is currently doing. Luca can't even defend to save his life.
If curry was a ball hogger like Luka, he'd win the scoring title every year.

And luka plays bad because his 3 & D players cannot make a shot to save their lives. I can do this all day bro

Khanben:


The team in 91-93 had better players, that is why they won, Phil has never won without MJ, Shaq or Kobe in his team. That tells me it's not just his system, but also the caliber of players he had.
As for the Mavs, have you actually watched any of the games, or are you just reading box scores. Every single player on the Mavericks apart from Luka is a role player and that is a fact.

Was Draymond not a role player? When Steph was out was Draymond not the laughing stock of the NBA? When did Wiggins do anything of note for GSW without Curry playing? What about Klay? I hope you can see how you made my points for me. Curry helped all those people get the all star selections they got. Without him, they were all treated as bad to mid players.

Android22:
Luka is not a more versatile scorer than Jokic. Luka is almost a 1 trick pony. Jokic can post you up, shoot the mid range, 3 pt etc. Jokic is a more versatile passer. Luka's passing game is predominantly collapse the defense and pass to the wings. If they make the shot, good or else nothing. Luka is just expected to score more than Jokic and he does it which is why he is great. If you want to talk about a wobbly roster, then you can make the argument for Jokic which is why he is the MVP. Until then, Luka is still up and coming.

Oga you do not watch games at all. Saying Luka does not have a post just shows you don't watch basketball. Luka that was backng down a 7ft center does not have a post game. Oha fear God

Thanos:

Not fire of emotions oga. Hindsight sha. Now everybody is yapping. If the series was 3-0 the other way round, we won't be having this argument. Hell, if my boys did not choke in GM2, we won't be here. It's your time. Enjoy abeg.

You choked game 2 because the Warriors are playing better than you. Nets also led Celtics by 15 or so in game 2 and still lost. Is it by shooting 3 pt shots without knowing you will drop down to the mean? Did Luka not see his team losing? What did he do about it?

Khanben:
People can revise history no be small. I am hearing mamba mentality up and down. Show me where Kobe made it past the 2nd round with Shaq or Gasol with all his mamba mentality. Same Kobe that lost a finals to Billups and co, don't even get me started abeg

You are now talking without reading. We are actually panning mamba mentality. That is the point.