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Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by naptu2: 2:59pm On Jul 03, 2012

Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by BlackBaron: 3:46pm On Jul 03, 2012
I really wanna slap the photographer who couldn't even take full on pictures. All we got is front,side and back view.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 10:12am On Jul 04, 2012
ACM10:

APC was used in the dying days of WW1. British invented it from tractor prototype which they used to overrun German positions in the trenches. This forced the Germans to sue for peace. But Germans did perfect the use of APC in the battlefield in the WW2


You are very correct guy! I was initially laughing at what somebody wrote that APCs were not used during WW I. Sadly, the guy even wrote with non-existent authority- a very poor student of History...

"During World War I (1914-1918) the British developed and used the first armored track-laying vehicles in an attempt to break the deadlock of trench warfare on the Western Front. To maintain secrecy, the vehicles were shipped to the battle zone in crates marked “tanks,” hence the origin of the name."
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by ACM10: 12:46pm On Jul 04, 2012
Bymbolar:


You are very correct guy! I was initially laughing at what somebody wrote that APCs were not used during WW I. Sadly, the guy even wrote with non-existent authority- a very poor student of History...

"During World War I (1914-1918) the British developed and used the first armored track-laying vehicles in an attempt to break the deadlock of trench warfare on the Western Front. To maintain secrecy, the vehicles were shipped to the battle zone in crates marked “tanks,” hence the origin of the name."

Young men these days hardly devote time to read history. They spends most of their time watching Nollywood junks.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Chongaiman: 9:44pm On Jul 04, 2012
ACM10:

APC was used in the dying days of WW1. British invented it from tractor prototype which they used to overrun German positions in the trenches. This forced the Germans to sue for peace. But Germans did perfect the use of APC in the battlefield in the WW2

FYI an APC is not a tank. Are you aware that the Germans also produced their own tanks which saw action in WW1?
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Chongaiman: 10:28pm On Jul 04, 2012
Bymbolar:
. . . . I was initially laughing at what somebody wrote that APCs were not used during WW I. Sadly, the guy even wrote with non-existent authority- a very poor student of History...

"During World War I (1914-1918) the British developed and used the first armored track-laying vehicles in an attempt to break the deadlock of trench warfare on the Western Front. To maintain secrecy, the vehicles were shipped to the battle zone in crates marked “tanks,” hence the origin of the name."

ACM10:
Young men these days hardly devote time to read history. They spends most of their time watching Nollywood junks.


On the contrary, tanks, not APCs were used in WW1. It's just like calling Keke NAPEP a car. Both tanks and APCs are armoured vehicles (or Class 'A' vehicles in military terminology) but perform different functions. In the 9jan Army, the former are the exclusive preserve of the Armoured Corps while APCs are mostly used by the infantry. Other specialized uses of APCs include command vehicles (Sultan), ambulances (Samaritan), recovery vehicles (Samson) and as platform for a variety of weapons such as mortars, anti-tank guided weapons and surveillance devices.

APCs have larger carrying capacity than tanks. Also the main armament of a tank has a very much larger calibre than that of an APC. Tanks are tracked while APCs are either tracked (T) or wheeled (W). In the 9jan Army inventory, the main battle tanks (MBTs) are T-55 (Russia) and Eagle Vickers (Britain). APC variants in its inventory include Steyr Mark I and II [T] (Austria), MOWAG [W] (Switzerland), MTLB [T] (Poland), BTR [W] (Ukraine) and Cobra [W] (Turkey). Over to you. . .
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 9:17am On Jul 05, 2012
Chongaiman:

@Chongaiman, no no no! Calling Armoured Tanks an APC is not and will never be tantamount to calling KEKE NAPEP a CAR, ok?

Now, let's get it right! During the WW I, the only Country with the most superior Military capability was Britain. The tank had no single inventor. The Royal Naval Air Service, which operated some armored cars, originated ideas for “landships.” Simultaneously, British colonel Ernest Swinton proposed the military use of track-laying tractors. Both suggestions came to the attention of the First Lord of the Admiralty, Sir Winston Churchill. He set up a Landships Committee that laid down specifications. At that time, Armoured Tanks were the only Military hardware used to move personnel on land with high protection while simultaneously mobilizing armament to the war fronts. See, in the Military Strategy these four are very important- Mobility, communication, Firepower and protection- all of which the tanks served.

Come to think of it. Tanks were the first generation of Armoured vehicles for combat operations to achieve the 4 strategies mentioned above. The commonly used APCs for Infantry Deployment today, which you seem to be familiar with, are latter-Days inventions. Above all, don't confuse yourself with pre-existing notion on Military Armoured Vehicles, please. They are only different in terms of usages- they are all meant to protect the PERSONNEL. It is not the level of armament that matters, otherwise they would be unmanned vehicles like the Drones.So the armoured Tanks that were used during the WW I were the earliest version of APCs and are still the Strongest reserved for Combat operations till date. Pele !


On the contrary, tanks, not APCs were used in WW1. It's just like calling Keke NAPEP a car. Both tanks and APCs are armoured vehicles (or Class 'A' vehicles in military terminology) but perform different functions. In the 9jan Army, the former are the exclusive preserve of the Armoured Corps while APCs are mostly used by the infantry. Other specialized uses of APCs include command vehicles (Sultan), ambulances (Samaritan), recovery vehicles (Samson) and as platform for a variety of weapons such as mortars, anti-tank guided weapons and surveillance devices.

APCs have larger carrying capacity than tanks. Also the main armament of a tank has a very much larger calibre than that of an APC. Tanks are tracked while APCs are either tracked (T) or wheeled (W). In the 9jan Army inventory, the main battle tanks (MBTs) are T-55 (Russia) and Eagle Vickers (Britain). APC variants in its inventory include Steyr Mark I and II [T] (Austria), MOWAG [W] (Switzerland), MTLB [T] (Poland), BTR [W] (Ukraine) and Cobra [W] (Turkey). Over to you. . .
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 9:20am On Jul 05, 2012
Chongaiman:




On the contrary, tanks, not APCs were used in WW1. It's just like calling Keke NAPEP a car. Both tanks and APCs are armoured vehicles (or Class 'A' vehicles in military terminology) but perform different functions. In the 9jan Army, the former are the exclusive preserve of the Armoured Corps while APCs are mostly used by the infantry. Other specialized uses of APCs include command vehicles (Sultan), ambulances (Samaritan), recovery vehicles (Samson) and as platform for a variety of weapons such as mortars, anti-tank guided weapons and surveillance devices.

APCs have larger carrying capacity than tanks. Also the main armament of a tank has a very much larger calibre than that of an APC. Tanks are tracked while APCs are either tracked (T) or wheeled (W). In the 9jan Army inventory, the main battle tanks (MBTs) are T-55 (Russia) and Eagle Vickers (Britain). APC variants in its inventory include Steyr Mark I and II [T] (Austria), MOWAG [W] (Switzerland), MTLB [T] (Poland), BTR [W] (Ukraine) and Cobra [W] (Turkey). Over to you. . .







@Chongaiman, no no no! Calling Armoured Tanks an APC is not and will never be tantamount to calling KEKE NAPEP a CAR, ok?

Now, let's get it right! During the WW I, the only Country with the most superior Military capability was Britain. The tank had no single inventor. The Royal Naval Air Service, which operated some armored cars, originated ideas for “landships.” Simultaneously, British colonel Ernest Swinton proposed the military use of track-laying tractors. Both suggestions came to the attention of the First Lord of the Admiralty, Sir Winston Churchill. He set up a Landships Committee that laid down specifications. At that time, Armoured Tanks were the only Military hardware used to move personnel on land with high protection while simultaneously mobilizing armament to the war fronts. See, in the Military Strategy these four are very important- Mobility, communication, Firepower and protection- all of which the tanks served.

Come to think of it. Tanks were the first generation of Armoured vehicles for combat operations to achieve the 4 strategies mentioned above. The commonly used APCs for Infantry Deployment today, which you seem to be familiar with, are latter-Days inventions. Above all, don't confuse yourself with pre-existing notion on Military Armoured Vehicles, please. They are only different in terms of usages- they are all meant to protect the PERSONNEL. It is not the level of armament that matters, otherwise they would be unmanned vehicles like the Drones.So the armoured Tanks that were used during the WW I were the earliest version of APCs and are still the Strongest reserved for Combat operations till date. Pele !
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Chongaiman: 9:57am On Jul 05, 2012
I still beg to disagree. Both tanks and APCs are AFVs but perform different roles. Basically a tank is offensive while APC is defensive.

Bymbolar:
. . . Above all, don't confuse yourself with pre-existing notion on Military Armoured Vehicles, please. They are only different in terms of usages- they are all meant to protect the PERSONNEL. . .

The military puts bread on my table. If it does the same to you, then I suggest you revise your précis and notes so as not to be in doubt.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 5:51pm On Jul 05, 2012
Chongaiman: I still beg to disagree. Both tanks and APCs are AFVs but perform different roles. Basically a tank is offensive while APC is defensive.



The military puts bread on my table. If it does the same to you, then I suggest you revise your précis and notes so as not to be in doubt.


Yeah, I noticed from the on set that you are a MP. Sorry, we need not go on insinuating insult, neither do will need resulting to falacies. Okay?
Let us just put issues in proper perspective here, please. Tanks and any armoured vehicle for that matter are armour protected with ballistic steel, kevlar, dyneemar and homogeneous steel just for the sake of protecting the occupants- never to protect the armament. No!

If you read my previous comments very well, you would realize that I said all Military vehicles only deffer in terms of usages for which they are deployed and built. But above all, they were invented to avoid human casualties as troops either make offensive or defensive maneuvers. So for your information, the Tanks used during the WW I were ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIERS- used to protect British soldiers and Forces of the Allied Powers as they either made offensive or defensive maneuvers.

Great to know that the Military is your immediate constituency. It is not mine, but I have studied so much on the subject of discussion at the Department of War Studies-KC too.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 9:09am On Jul 06, 2012
Chongaiman: I still beg to disagree. Both tanks and APCs are AFVs but perform different roles. Basically a tank is offensive while APC is defensive.



The military puts bread on my table. If it does the same to you, then I suggest you revise your précis and notes so as not to be in doubt.


Yeah, I noticed from the on set that you are a MP. Sorry, we need not go on insinuating insult, neither do will need resulting to falacies. Okay?
Let us just put issues in proper perspective here, please. Tanks and any armoured vehicle for that matter are armour protected with ballistic steel, kevlar, dyneemar and homogeneous steel just for the sake of protecting the occupants- never to protect the armament. No!

If you read my previous comments very well, you would realize that I said all Military vehicles only deffer in terms of usages for which they are deployed and built. But above all, they were invented to avoid human casualties as troops either make offensive or defensive maneuvers. So for your information, the Tanks used during the WW I were ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIERS- used to protect British soldiers and Forces of the Allied Powers as they either made offensive or defensive maneuvers.

Great to know that the Military is your immediate constituency. It is not mine, but I have studied so much on the subject of discussion at the Department of War Studies-KC too.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 11:22am On Jul 06, 2012
Chongaiman: I still beg to disagree. Both tanks and APCs are AFVs but perform different roles. Basically a tank is offensive while APC is defensive.



The military puts bread on my table. If it does the same to you, then I suggest you revise your précis and notes so as not to be in doubt.


Yeah, I noticed from the on set that you are a MP. Sorry, we need not go on insinuating insult, neither do will need resulting to falacies. Okay?
Let us just put issues in proper perspective here, please. Tanks and any armoured vehicle for that matter are armour protected with ballistic steel, kevlar, dyneemar and homogeneous steel just for the sake of protecting the occupants- never to protect the armament. No!

If you read my previous comments very well, you would realize that I said all Military vehicles only deffer in terms of usages for which they are deployed and built. But above all, they were invented to avoid human casualties as troops either make offensive or defensive maneuvers. So for your information, the Tanks used during the WW I were ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIERS- used to protect British soldiers and Forces of the Allied Powers as they either made offensive or defensive maneuvers.

Great to know that the Military is your immediate constituency. It is not mine, but I have studied so much on the subject of discussion at the Department of War Studies-KC too.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 8:36am On Jul 07, 2012
Chongaiman: I still beg to disagree. Both tanks and APCs are AFVs but perform different roles. Basically a tank is offensive while APC is defensive.



The military puts bread on my table. If it does the same to you, then I suggest you revise your précis and notes so as not to be in doubt.


Yeah, I noticed from the on set that you are a MP. Sorry, we need not go on insinuating insult, neither do will need resulting to falacies. Okay?
Let us just put issues in proper perspective here, please. Tanks and any armoured vehicle for that matter are armour protected with ballistic steel, kevlar, dyneemar and homogeneous steel just for the sake of protecting the occupants- never to protect the armament. No!

If you read my previous comments very well, you would realize that I said all Military vehicles only deffer in terms of usages for which they are deployed and built. But above all, they were invented to avoid human casualties as troops either make offensive or defensive maneuvers. So for your information, the Tanks used during the WW I were ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIERS- used to protect British soldiers and Forces of the Allied Powers as they either made offensive or defensive maneuvers.

Great to know that the Military is your immediate constituency. It is not mine, but I have studied so much on the subject of discussion at the Department of War Studies-KC too.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Bymbolar(m): 8:16am On Jul 09, 2012
Chongaiman: I still beg to disagree. Both tanks and APCs are AFVs but perform different roles. Basically a tank is offensive while APC is defensive.



The military puts bread on my table. If it does the same to you, then I suggest you revise your précis and notes so as not to be in doubt.


Yeah, I noticed from the on set that you are a MP. Sorry, we need not go on insinuating insult, neither do will need resulting to falacies. Okay?
Let us just put issues in proper perspective here, please. Tanks and any armoured vehicle for that matter are armour protected with ballistic steel, kevlar, dyneemar and homogeneous steel just for the sake of protecting the occupants- never to protect the armament. No!

If you read my previous comments very well, you would realize that I said all Military vehicles only deffer in terms of usages for which they are deployed and built. But above all, they were invented to avoid human casualties as troops either make offensive or defensive maneuvers. So for your information, the Tanks used during the WW I were ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIERS- used to protect British soldiers and Forces of the Allied Powers as they either made offensive or defensive maneuvers.

Great to know that the Military is your immediate constituency. It is not mine, but I have studied so much on the subject of discussion at the Department of War Studies-KC too.
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by naptu2: 9:18am On Jul 09, 2012
Wow! What's going on? How many times?
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by AjanleKoko: 10:47am On Jul 09, 2012
They need to take some of these locally made tanks to Yobe, Jos, and all the other hotspots in the North jare. No be for show. undecided
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by igbo2011(m): 6:44pm On Sep 01, 2013
Beaf: Up 9ja! We can do it! Such news makes me so proud.
I hope the thing looks like a growling beast.

Anyways, lets use it to immediately invade Cameroon. Na me go drive am. grin

Why Cameroon?
Re: Nigerian Army To Unveil 1st Locally Made Armoured Cars by Pascalberry(m): 9:26pm On Aug 20, 2015
Bymbolar:



You are very correct guy! I was initially laughing at what somebody wrote that APCs were not used during WW I. Sadly, the guy even wrote with non-existent authority- a very poor student of History...

"During World War I (1914-1918) the British developed and used the first armored track-laying vehicles in an attempt to break the deadlock of trench warfare on the Western Front. To maintain secrecy, the vehicles were shipped to the battle zone in crates marked “tanks,” hence the origin of the name."
Ah could even remember the name of the 1st tank made by britain. . .xumtin lyk "mark.1"

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