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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:06am On Jun 11, 2022
ChristineC:
I asked a United group this same question. these are all known names. perhaps there's some other technical research or data scrutinized but basically anybody constantly watching can see what they are so about.

I think enquiries were earlier made for Bruno Neves as well. I like his style, he's also the right age and I'm sure he'd be open for the move. I don't know why we backed out.


It seems the board does not really want to spend huge money.

When one considers the number of players leaving, the number of established and upcoming clubs fighting for Top 4, and the fact that we have a new manager I expect a transfer budget of at least 200m pounds.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:53am On Jun 11, 2022
Afrodoc2 and ChristineC, I don't think we can risk going for prospects now. Even South American talents don't come cheap anymore since the time of Neymar. Now, you'd find talents from South American going for over 40-50m...

I don't consider the likes of Bissouma, Neves and co as hidden talents that need a scout to discover.

For now, I think the scouts are focused on identifying players for the academy...

As for the willingness of the board to spend, the fact that we are quoted as willing to pay over 80m for FDJ suggest the board are willing ho stump the cash...There's talk of Timber and Anthony so, that's over 150m if completed...

I am sure that we will sign a LB and possibly a CM assuming we get the already rumored targets...I think ETH might settle for Martial or Rashford as a CF...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 9:22am On Jun 11, 2022
afrodoc2:

It seems the board does not really want to spend huge money.

When one considers the number of players leaving, the number of established and upcoming clubs fighting for Top 4, and the fact that we have a new manager I expect a transfer budget of at least 200m pounds.
200m added to what we can recoup from sales of AWB, Martial and co should do just fine.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 9:31am On Jun 11, 2022
patrickmuf:
Afrodoc2 and ChristineC, I don't think we can risk going for prospects now. Even South American talents don't come cheap anymore since the time of Neymar. Now, you'd find talents from South American going for over 40-50m...

I don't consider the likes of Bissouma, Neves and co as hidden talents that need a scout to discover.

For now, I think the scouts are focused on identifying players for the academy...

As for the willingness of the board to spend, the fact that we are quoted as willing to pay over 80m for FDJ suggest the board are willing ho stump the cash...There's talk of Timber and Anthony so, that's over 150m if completed...

I am sure that we will sign a LB and possibly an CM assuming we get the already rumored targets...I think ETH might settle for Martial or Rashford as a CF...
I think Bissouma and Bruno will improve the midfield but the problem is probably the cost. being that they already are in the EPL, their clubs will try to be unreasonable with pricing.

scouting for academy is great too, I think time will tell if there's progress there. Hannibal will probably be a testament shortly.

80m on de Jong is steep and I'd rather take a walk. we can get two quality midfielders for that price if we get our bearings right.

Rashford and Martial are done. let's just move on from unseriousness early enough for once in this club.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:06am On Jun 11, 2022
patrickmuf:
Afrodoc2 and ChristineC, I don't think we can risk going for prospects now. Even South American talents don't come cheap anymore since the time of Neymar. Now, you'd find talents from South American going for over 40-50m...

I don't consider the likes of Bissouma, Neves and co as hidden talents that need a scout to discover.

For now, I think the scouts are focused on identifying players for the academy...

As for the willingness of the board to spend, the fact that we are quoted as willing to pay over 80m for FDJ suggest the board are willing ho stump the cash...There's talk of Timber and Anthony so, that's over 150m if completed...

I am sure that we will sign a LB and possibly an CM assuming we get the already rumored targets...I think ETH might settle for Martial or Rashford as a CF...

Yeah. You do make good points. The scouts can go for the academy players while the manager identifies who he wants from more known players.

In terms of board readiness I said so because I keep hearing that they won’t spend more than 150m (not sure if Euro or pounds).

I am not passing any judgement until the window ends. They should just know that they have to support the new manager with very good buys. All this talk about him being able to work wonders with the current squad is alarming. His name is Eric ten Hag not Prof Peller.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 10:23am On Jun 11, 2022
Fabrizio Romano: Manchester United are working on new deal for the Argentinian talent Alejandro Garnacho. Talks already started to get things done by this year.

Man Utd plan is to offer a five year deal as Garnacho is considered a huge talent.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:25am On Jun 11, 2022
afrodoc2:


Yeah. You do make good points. The scouts can go for the academy players while the manager identifies who he wants from more known players.

In terms of board readiness I said so because I keep hearing that they won’t spend more than 150m (not sure if Euro or pounds).

I am not passing any judgement until the window ends. They should just know that they have to support the new manager with very good buys. All this talk about him being able to work wonders with the current squad is alarming. His name is Eric ten Hag not Prof Peller.
At this point, I am very careful not to fall for the usual media reportage...

I complained sometime back that I don't get to read other clubs monitoring, talking, negotiating, convincing and all that for a player but at United it's like a timeline of events that last for weeks and someone saud it's because I don't follow other clubs which I refused to believe. The drama is just too much, they should just go ahead and sign players so we can stand in good footings come August. I can't stand another season of mediocre football...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:31am On Jun 11, 2022
ChristineC:
I think Bissouma and Bruno will improve the midfield but the problem is probably the cost. being that they already are in the EPL, their clubs will try to be unreasonable with pricing.

scouting for academy is great too, I think time will tell if there's progress there. Hannibal will probably be a testament shortly.

80m on de Jong is steep and I'd rather take a walk. we can get two quality midfielders for that price if we get our bearings right.

Rashford and Martial are done. let's just move on from unseriousness early enough for once in this club.
I wouldn't mind if we shipped both or either of Rashford or Martial out but to this point, nothing suggest we are seriously giving it a thought...The biggest stumbling block is that wages that means it's either ETH finds a way to bring out the best in them or we lose them on a free...I think we might settle for giving them one more season in hope that they rediscover their form else we stand a chance of losing them for free in a couple of years time...

Our net spend is high because either lose players on a free or for less of their value. It's painful when you co sider how much we pay to get the players here...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 11:36am On Jun 11, 2022
ChristineC:
I think Bissouma and Bruno will improve the midfield but the problem is probably the cost. being that they already are in the EPL, their clubs will try to be unreasonable with pricing.

scouting for academy is great too, I think time will tell if there's progress there. Hannibal will probably be a testament shortly.

80m on de Jong is steep and I'd rather take a walk. we can get two quality midfielders for that price if we get our bearings right.

Rashford and Martial are done. let's just move on from unseriousness early enough for once in this club.
Their salary is a reason it won't be easy to offload them. I don't see either of them accepting a pay cut to move, so loan deals would be the best option. Bissouma shouldn't cos more that 40m, but i would prefer either Ndidi or Philips (either will cost far more sadly).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 11:49am On Jun 11, 2022
So una just pretend not to see how Austria is pressing well and achieving results under Ragnick shay?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:52pm On Jun 11, 2022
Our squad next season..

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 3:24pm On Jun 11, 2022
FirstbornWds:
So una just pretend not to see how Austria is pressing well and achieving results under Ragnick shay?

Ragnick alert grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 5:59pm On Jun 11, 2022
FirstbornWds:
So una just pretend not to see how Austria is pressing well and achieving results under Ragnick shay?


cc
TrebleChamp
Nitrogen

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 7:24pm On Jun 11, 2022
patrickmuf:
Afrodoc2 and ChristineC, I don't think we can risk going for prospects now. Even South American talents don't come cheap anymore since the time of Neymar. Now, you'd find talents from South American going for over 40-50m...

I don't consider the likes of Bissouma, Neves and co as hidden talents that need a scout to discover.

For now, I think the scouts are focused on identifying players for the academy...

As for the willingness of the board to spend, the fact that we are quoted as willing to pay over 80m for FDJ suggest the board are willing ho stump the cash...There's talk of Timber and Anthony so, that's over 150m if completed...

I am sure that we will sign a LB and possibly a CM assuming we get the already rumored targets...I think ETH might settle for Martial or Rashford as a CF...

City got Alvarez for £15M, our useless scouts need to do their fůcking job. Alvarez is a solid talent!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by segunzik(m): 8:29pm On Jun 11, 2022
We never still sign person oo. Hmm.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by segunzik(m): 8:30pm On Jun 11, 2022
FirstbornWds:
So una just pretend not to see how Austria is pressing well and achieving results under Ragnick shay?


Abeg abeg, the mention of this man name dey give me trauma. Make him carry him wahala dey go.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 9:00pm On Jun 11, 2022
segunzik:


Abeg abeg, the mention of this man name dey give me trauma. Make him carry him wahala dey go.

Na una team be the problem. No be PressNick.

Austria day ball wella under his tutelage.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by WhoDeyHause: 9:04pm On Jun 11, 2022
FirstbornWds:


Na una team be the problem. No be PressNick.

Austria day ball wella under his tutelage.
Look at this dead barka fan calling another team a problem. Is your club not finished? Manyoo want to take your best midfielder away so you can see money to pay player salary and you are insulting them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Santos07: 9:38pm On Jun 11, 2022
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 9:51pm On Jun 11, 2022
Are you alright? How about we wait until after a dozen or so games? The results should prompt you to look at tactics/strategy, not the other way around. I mean how's he doing it? If you like squeeze hard, if nothing commot over a period of time, you are just another journeyman coach who despite racking up losses repeatably tells us, 'oh, at least i have a philosophy'. Shut up and get us the fucking results.
FirstbornWds:
So una just pretend not to see how Austria is pressing well and achieving results under Ragnick shay?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 9:59pm On Jun 11, 2022
benji93:
Are you alright? How about we wait until after a dozen or so games? The results should prompt you to look at tactics/strategy, not the other way around. I mean how's he doing it? If you like squeeze hard, if nothing commot over a period of time, you are just another journeyman coach who despite racking up losses repeatably tells us, 'oh, at least i have a philosophy'. Shut up and get us the fucking results.

It's a simple case.


The idea and philosophy were always there. The players were just too lazy asf to execute it.


Ragnick wasn't the problem. United was!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 10:00pm On Jun 11, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Look at this dead barka fan calling another team a problem. Is your club not finished? Manyoo want to take your best midfielder away so you can see money to pay player salary and you are insulting them.

What I dropped was for footballing purposes. Go and play bet.. I didn't call you here
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 10:08pm On Jun 11, 2022
This is my problem. You are looking at the Philosophy first not the results. Sorry, but that's not smart.
FirstbornWds:


It's a simple case.


The idea and philosophy were always there. The players were just too lazy asf to execute it.


Ragnick wasn't the problem. United was!!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 10:42pm On Jun 11, 2022
patrickmuf:
They can play together so, rest...

A midfield of Neves, De Jong and VDB will be just fine with Bruno playing as a false nine like Tadic did at Ajax... Ronaldo won't play many games so, if we don't get a striker then Bruno as a false 9 should suffice...

ETH should make a decision on Martial and Rashford ASAP...

Make I hear say Ronaldo no play all d games.

That Wayward bruno can't be my top 9.

He will miss 20 score 10

Ronaldo will not get up to 20 chances but if he see 5 he go score 3.

Rashford is just depressed.

Martial has lost hope in football

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 10:48pm On Jun 11, 2022
DeJong still dey traffic?? cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 10:48pm On Jun 11, 2022
Under a week.. Liverpool don come sign nunez
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:35am On Jun 12, 2022
adebayo201:


cc
TrebleChamp
Nitrogen
initial gra gra tinz grin..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:40am On Jun 12, 2022
Mrviktor:


Make I hear say Ronaldo no play all d games.

That Wayward bruno can't be my top 9.

He will miss 20 score 10

Ronaldo will not get up to 20 chances but if he see 5 he go score 3.

Rashford is just depressed.

Martial has lost hope in football
But not his fat weekly paycheck
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:42am On Jun 12, 2022
Nezzjnr:
DeJong still dey traffic?? cheesy
grin..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 2:01am On Jun 12, 2022
benji93:
This is my problem. You are looking at the Philosophy first not the results. Sorry, but that's not smart.

I wonder how you expect results when there's no understanding to make it happen. How do you go to war without first mapping a strategy to confront opposition?

You need to first present your understanding of the game before even talking about possible results. Only then can you even map a proficient technique to win.

Now Austria has had an improved game entirely since Ragnick took over, staying above Croatia and France; two heavyweights that played in the finals of the last WC. But Nah, your SMARTNESS won't less you see that... It's rather focused on seeing results when the problem wasn't the gaffer that explicitly has a strategy but a lazy bunch of guys that make a disgraceful team!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:43am On Jun 12, 2022
olabode89:


City got Alvarez for £15M, our useless scouts need to do their fůcking job. Alvarez is a solid talent!!
Have you watched him play? For 15m it's a risk...

We got Pellestri for 10m what do you make of him?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 8:46am On Jun 12, 2022
patrickmuf:
Have you watched him play? For 15m it a risk...

We got Pellestri for 10m what do you make of him?

Loaner cheesy cheesy

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