Covert1:


Would you say threat of sanctions or end user restriction requirements that comes with US sales. The latter seems more probable to me. As a regional power any inhibitions to power projection for national interests is a minus.

I guess I can start dreaming on the C-130s replacements that would be a logistic banger. Nothing appears though to show our Air Forces planners looking in that direction.

Threats of sanctions is a serious worry for Nigeria, that's why I see significant concerns with US weapons. However it was same threat of sanctions that dissuaded Nigeria from getting the remaining MI-35M helicopters from Russia.

If you can't buy from anywhere else, you might as well just buy from America. That threat exists, and we have to live with it.

Their are restrictions on the use of the A-29 Super Tucanos, and their would be restrictions on the use the AH-1Z helicopters also.

I don't think Nigeria is allowed to use the Super Tucano outside of Nigeria for instance. We have to find a balance, and procure the right mix of military equipment.

We are buying helicopters and the Super Tucano from America, the M-346F/A from Italy. Areas where we can't deploy the Tucanos, we use the M-346F/A.

Nothing appears to show we are interested in the C-130s for now, all pointers show we will receive some C-295 aircrafts from Airbus in the near future. This won't be a bad purchase, but we should jettison them, in my opinion, for the C-130J instead.

Nigerian Navy LST, NNS Kada

Nemesis4you:


Do you have same pic in HD ?
Want to do some research on the vehicle in the middle

Nemesis, let's talk.

A little simplistic, however if we say the War in Armenia was a the UCAV, is it infallible to refer to the war in Ukraine as the war of Artillery, Tanks, Cruise missiles and Special Operations Forces?

What is your understanding of Special Forces and do you think the war in Ukraine ensures that further expansion of Special Forces units, especially in terms of capabilities and their range of employment?

Your thoughts.

kabe1:


Threats of sanctions is a serious worry for Nigeria, that's why I see significant concerns with US weapons. However it was same threat of sanctions that dissuaded Nigeria from getting the remaining MI-35M helicopters from Russia.

If you can't buy from anywhere else, you might as well just buy from America. That threat exists, and we have to live with it.

Their are restrictions on the use of the A-29 Super Tucanos, and their would be restrictions on the use the AH-1Z helicopters also.

I don't think Nigeria is allowed to use the Super Tucano outside of Nigeria for instance. We have to find a balance, and procure the right mix of military equipment.

We are buying helicopters and the Super Tucano from America, the M-346F/A from Italy. Areas where we can't deploy the Tucanos, we use the M-346F/A.

Nothing appears to show we are interested in the C-130s for now, all pointers show we will receive some C-295 aircrafts from Airbus in the near future. This won't be a bad purchase, but we should jettison them, in my opinion, for the C-130J instead.

Makes sense

Except maybe China which holds a lot of US debt and the Americans are loathe to sanction or antagonize not even over Taiwan

Not a fan of the C-295. Political will, will get us the C-130J or even the C-5 Super Galaxy. We need enhanced strategic airlift capability.

Covert1:



Makes sense

Except maybe China which holds a lot of US debt and the loathe to sanction or antagonize

Not a fan of the C-295. Political will, will get us the C-130J or even the C-5 Super Galaxy. We need enhanced strategic airlift capability.

Do you mean the C-17? That's currently out of production, but if you actually mean the C-5, we will never get that.

I'm not a fan of the C-295 either, I don't think it has the tonnage to be useful in Nigerian military service. C-130J on the other hand is just perfect.

One fighter capability, I think we should stick with the JF-17 for fighter capability or if we can the J-10. My problem with the J-10 is, I don't believe the US will allow Nigeria purchase the J-10 is when we also have the AH-1Z Viper.

kabe1:


Do you mean the C-17? That's currently out of production, but if you actually mean the C-5, we will never get that.

I'm not a fan of the C-295 either, I don't think it has the tonnage to be useful in Nigerian military service. C-130J on the other hand is just perfect.

One fighter capability, I think we should stick with the JF-17 for fighter capability or if we can the J-10. My problem with the J-10 is, I don't believe the US will allow Nigeria purchase the J-10 is when we also have the AH-1Z Viper.

I meant the C-5, the US tend to look the other way when it comes to surplus equipment not in active production. The C-130J though makes a lot of sense for the NAF having mastered the Aircraft needing no certifications for its pilots.

Except you mean pressures directly from the US as they do with some nations. That has apparently not been the case with Nigeria that actually takes its non-aligned status seriously. I think purchasing the J-10 won't be a problem, worse we use a third party Pakistan. But who knows in this treacherous world of geo-politics and the fight to remain relevant you might be right, just dunno anymore because as we can see shortly after Pakistan got the J-10 Prime Minister Imran Khan was removed and he says himself intelligence points directly to the US as the culprit that bribed lawmakers to oust him.

National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) and SAAF night exercise

Late yesterday afternoon and into last night, the ASR Unit, supported by NSRI Station 18, trained with the SA Navy Super Lynx helicopter (operated by 22 Squadron of the SAAF) at Melkbosstrand. The objective of the exercise was to find a casualty floating in the water at night. The casualty would be wearing a life jacket and the only indication of their location was the flashing light on their life jacket.The exercise was split into 2 sessions; a daylight phase and then a night time/ dark phase.During the daylight phase, several sorties were completed utilizing direct recovery (using a rescue strop) and the basket recovery method.The night phase was more challenging with the air crew utilizing Night Vision Goggles (NVG), minimal lights from the helicopter and the ASR Rescue Swimmer utilizing cyalumes. Despite the complete surrounding darkness and no moon, the air crew and rescue swimmer managed to locate and recover their patients with great success.
Pics by Kim Germishuys

SAAF mountain rescue training with the Mountain Club of SA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3GGRLNlG8c

Any new delivery for the VT4 tanks to nigeria ?

Nigeria received only 6 in april 2020 at the delivery ceremony

https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/04/16/nigeria-receives-chinese-armored-vehicles/

Flanker:


Yes , according to media at that time , they received from china in 2020 a batch of 17 vehicles without specifying each model

From sipri : from china 2020

- 3 SH-2 122mm Self-propelled gun
- 2 SH-5 105mm Self-propelled gun
- 6 VT-4 Tanks
- 6 ZTL-09 AFSV

= 17

Lurker4Long:
National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) and SAAF night exercise

Lurker4Long:
SAAF mountain rescue training with the Mountain Club of SA.

Odunayaw, fyi :

As an avid mountain hiker, and soon to resume my sailing lessons, I for one am grateful knowing the SAAF and the volunteers of the Mountain Club of SA and the NSIR are there should I get in trouble out in the mountains or at sea.

Flanker:
Any new delivery for the VT4 tanks to nigeria ?

Nigeria received only 6 in april 2020 at the delivery ceremony

https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/04/16/nigeria-receives-chinese-armored-vehicles/

No evidence of new Tank deliveries for Nigeria.

The President's office announced the single largest procurement of Armoured vehicles a few weeks back.

So, it's safe to assume we might be getting additional Tanks and Artillery systems.

jl115:


- you government doesn't have to disclose the number since Norinco does disclose the number of its products sold

You are a real retard show me where Norinco said it sold only six VT4 tanks to Nigeria

jl115:

- the documentry is not from 30years ago but like 5 years ago.... That's the state of your military

No that is actually the state of your drowning military.

jl115:

- yet your moniker has only existed for a couple of months?

So moniker is now a Yard stick for measuring who has been on nairaland for long or not.

jl115:

- how can you have more SPHs when you only have 30 and the SA army has 64?

That must have again come from you anus like always dumbo

jl115:

- as I said I have your government budget downloaded....no other source is more relevant than your government itself.

My government defence spending is bigger than yours and everybody agrees including your beloved Sipri

jl115:

- how can you neither saying I am and am not a drug abuser be a fact?

My word is my word and that is the FACT

jl115:

- A TDL is a TDL bru... You either have it or you don't.... But we all know Nigeria doesn't have a TDL and neither is it working on one.

You can either frustrate yourself on it or quit wailing

jl115:

- Google search your Frigates, Subs, TDL, modern air defence...

And what modern air defence have South Africa got

All those you mention are your problems

jl115:

- every country in Nato as well Russia and China that have blufor trackers and TDL.

I guess NATO Russia and China are the whole world

jl115:

- nope just the same delusional similarities between you and him... That's all

No, it actually you that is delusional and mentally sick and broken

jl115:

-I gave you a link and a photo.... What more do you want

What link did you give me you are a big fraud for trying to false your way out of this I said show me prove of your Armed force possession of armed drone? that is the question, the link you provided does not say your armed force have armed drones does it.


Lair

jl115:

- it's nothing special according to you yes?

No just FACT

jl115:

- Kondor E resolution = 1m Nigeriasat 2 resolution =32m....how is it better again?

Lolzzzz..

Nigeriasat2 can do 2.5m so they are both very high resolution satellite, with the fact that we have total control of our satellite but yours is controlled by Russia

Flanker:
Any new delivery for the VT4 tanks to nigeria ?

Nigeria received only 6 in april 2020 at the delivery ceremony

https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/04/16/nigeria-receives-chinese-armored-vehicles/

Although Nigerian media reported Nigeria placed orders for 35 Tanks, quoting our Defense minister.

In May 2019, Minister of Defence, Brigadier General Mansur Dan-Ali, said the Nigerian government had provided funding for the acquisition of modern equipment for the Nigerian armed forces, with some in service and others on the way

This included 35 main battle tanks, 25 Typhoon MRAPs (mine-resistant, ambush protected vehicles), 20 Armoured Guard Booths, five armoured mine-clearing vehicles, 50 troop-carrying vehicles and 40 Buffalo vehicles, among others for the Nigerian Army.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2021/03/nigerian-military-receives-tanks-artillery-from-china/amp/

Massive news and important foreign direct investment for Nigeria.

SierraNevCorp to inaugurate their permanent presence in Nigeria & ongoing success of the A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircraft program. We remain committed to providing the tools & training for Nigeria to counter insecurity.

At the time the deal was completed, it was the largest ever Foreign Military Sale in Sub-Saharan Africa, valued at $497 million.

We hope Nigeria can increase operational effectiveness by adding another squadron of A-29 aircraft as quickly as possible.”


Some ignorant people were claiming the Nigerian government paid 600 million dollars for this deal


https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-nigerian-military-partnership-leads-to-private-sector-investment/

Flanker:
Any new delivery for the VT4 tanks to nigeria ?

Nigeria received only 6 in april 2020 at the delivery ceremony

https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/04/16/nigeria-receives-chinese-armored-vehicles/

Don't try to quote Sipri here bro, the guy you are trying to validate does not believe Sipri

kabe1:
Massive news and important foreign direct investment for Nigeria.

SierraNevCorp to inaugurate their permanent presence in Nigeria & ongoing success of the A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircraft program. We remain committed to providing the tools & training for Nigeria to counter insecurity.

At the time the deal was completed, it was the largest ever Foreign Military Sale in Sub-Saharan Africa, valued at $497 million.

We hope Nigeria can increase operational effectiveness by adding another squadron of A-29 aircraft as quickly as possible.”


Some ignorant people were claiming the Nigerian government paid 600 million dollars for this deal


https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-nigerian-military-partnership-leads-to-private-sector-investment/

Some drowning military can't afford this


Even if you give them for free, they will be grounded in weeks

Omofaye99:


Some drowning military can't afford this


Even if you give them for free, they will be grounded in weeks

kabe1:

Geopolitics has changed very fast when Russia invaded Ukraine.

The US now See's Nigeria as a very strategic partner, let's take India for example there were times when the US would not partner with the Indians for anything the US won't sell weapons to India forcing India to make Russia it's sole arms supplier but now the US is trying to reduce India's dependents on Russian made weapons.


After Russia's invasion of Ukraine the US parliament all of a sudden approved the sale of AH attack helicopters and I asked myself where did all those human rights abuse concerns disappeared to after it blocked the sales for months and things were looking very bad and every one was thinking the sales will not go through

The US now See's Nigeria as the largest Nation and also the largest democracy in the African continent and has now started it's campaign to drow Nigeria close and make her a strategic partner


According to the US ambassador in Abuja today: there's always a war between autocracy and democracy and Nigeria is the largest democracy in Africa which makes her strategically important to the US


If you read what was said by the representative of the SNC company you will understand that the US is trying to get more of it's equipments into the armed forces of Nigeria by doing so we will be one of their puppets in the UN and don't be surprise if a day comes and the US offer's Nigeria the same deal it offered Egypt which means the US will be funding a portion of the Nigeria defense budget this fund would be used to purchase only American weapons

And don't forget Nigeria is a potential member of the UN permanent security council

CNS Admiral Gambo and CAS Air Marshal Amao earlier today in Zindin-Misau, Bauchi-State.

Omofaye99:

Some drowning military can't afford this

Even if you give them for free, they will be grounded in weeks

Comrade please stop the vawulence

MAN1960:
Geopolitics has changed very fast when Russia invaded Ukraine.

The US now See's Nigeria as a very strategic partner, let's take India for example there were times when the US would not partner with the Indians for anything the US won't sell weapons to India forcing India to make Russia it's sole arms supplier but now the US is trying to reduce India's dependents on Russian made weapons.

The US now See's Nigeria as the largest Nation and also the largest democracy in the African continent and has now started it's campaign to drow Nigeria close and make her a strategic partner


According to the US ambassador in Abuja today: there's always a war between autocracy and democracy and Nigeria is the largest democracy in Africa which makes her strategically important to the US


If you read what was said by the representative of the SNC company you will understand that the US is trying to get more of it's equipments into the armed forces of Nigeria by doing so we will be one of their puppets in the UN and don't be surprise if a day comes and the US offer's Nigeria the same dear it offered Egypt which means the US will be funding a portion of the Nigeria defense budget this fund would be used to purchase only American weapons

Won't mind that





We will use the US funds to purchase US made weapons while we use our main budget to finance our defence industry

ItooWorWor:


Won't mind that





We will use the US funds to purchase US made weapons while we use our main budget to finance our defence industry

Lolz, it's US that you're dealing with; don't want to join the gang of Pakistan

Skelewu, skelewu, skelewu

GreenandGold:
Skelewu military that earns less than South African gardeners

If you don't mind can I ask you why you love this picture so much?

I think you are obsessed with the Nigerian armed forces and you are upset with your Government not buying new toys for your armed forces, while you see the Nigerian government making New orders almost every three months, please calm down I know you are upset but that does not mean you take it out on us

Please let NIGERIA go

Let my people go

Omofaye99:


Some drowning military can't afford this


Even if you give them for free, they will be grounded in weeks

You forgot the Cubans might help and yet they'd still predictably end up grounded

Saluting the Flag of the African Giant for which honorable and decent men are willing to die

Show of Military Might

Nigerian Army Snipers In Theater

Nemesis4you:


Do you have same pic in HD ?
Want to do some research on the vehicle in the middle

Omofaye99:


You are a real retard show me where Norinco said it sold only six VT4 tanks to Nigeria




No that is actually the state of your drowning military.




So moniker is now a Yard stick for measuring who has been on nairaland for long or not.




That must have again come from you anus like always dumbo





My government defence spending is bigger than yours and everybody agrees including your beloved Sipri




My word is my word and that is the FACT




You can either frustrate yourself on it or quit wailing




And what modern air defence have South Africa got

All those you mention are your problems



I guess NATO Russia and China are the whole world




No, it actually you that is delusional and mentally sick and broken




What link did you give me you are a big fraud for trying to false your way out of this I said show me prove of your Armed force possession of armed drone? that is the question, the link you provided does not say your armed force have armed drones does it.


Lair



No just FACT




Lolzzzz..

Nigeriasat2 can do 2.5m so they are both very high resolution satellite, with the fact that we have total control of our satellite but yours is controlled by Russia

- show me where they sold you more

- nope that was the Nigerian Military on that documentary not the SANDF

- uhmm yes...it literally shows your join date.

-how many SPHs does Nigeria have according to you?

- everybody agrees with you except your own Government

- nope that would be your opinion my bru

-why would I be frustrated by the fact that you don't have a TDL?

-GDF 007, umkhonto, Starstreak, kameelperd, Eetkoring, bosvark, skyshield

- how?

-nope they are just the countries that were able to develop a TDL along with SA.... Not even African military powerhouses like Egypt and Algeria have the TDL technology SA possess.

- jeezes what a comeback bru

- I have you a link and a photo of a armed Seeker 400 in SA... What more is there to give?

- again... Your opinion doesn't equal fact

- yes 2.5m at a swath width of 20km yes.....thats 2.5 times worse than the Kondor e never mind the fact that the spatial resolution for the kondor e is 5m vs 32m also did I mention Nigeriasat2 only has a lifespan of 7 years.... So its probably dead by now anyway

- Also SA is tied with Egypt for having the most satellites in orbit

Lurker4Long:
National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) and SAAF night exercise

Late yesterday afternoon and into last night, the ASR Unit, supported by NSRI Station 18, trained with the SA Navy Super Lynx helicopter (operated by 22 Squadron of the SAAF) at Melkbosstrand. The objective of the exercise was to find a casualty floating in the water at night. The casualty would be wearing a life jacket and the only indication of their location was the flashing light on their life jacket.The exercise was split into 2 sessions; a daylight phase and then a night time/ dark phase.During the daylight phase, several sorties were completed utilizing direct recovery (using a rescue strop) and the basket recovery method.The night phase was more challenging with the air crew utilizing Night Vision Goggles (NVG), minimal lights from the helicopter and the ASR Rescue Swimmer utilizing cyalumes. Despite the complete surrounding darkness and no moon, the air crew and rescue swimmer managed to locate and recover their patients with great success.
Pics by Kim Germishuys

This is why I don't like politicians writing supposedly unbiased news articles.... Just two weeks ago DAs shadow minister of Defence clearly stated in articles he wrote for the Daily maverick and for defence Web that there are 0 lynx helicopters operational......